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Halo Reach Leaked To Filesharing Sites

Soulskill posted more than 4 years ago | from the somebody's-getting-sued dept.

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Stoobalou writes "What appears to be the full version of Bungie's Halo Reach game has turned up on a number of file sharing sites. The hotly-anticipated multi-player shooter had been hosted on a private area of the Microsoft Live site in order for journalists to preview the release, but Microsoft has admitted that a security breach has meant that pirates have been able to bypass personal download codes given to writers. Disk images of the game are now appearing on a number of public torrent and P2P sites as well as on popular NZB aggregators and Usenet binaries newsgroups." The game isn't due to be released until September 14th. Microsoft is said to be "aggressively pursuing" whoever grabbed the files without their permission.

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Frosty Bungholie (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33351112)

Can't spell Bungie without "Bung"!

Misleading headline (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33351302)

Halo: Reach was actually leaked onto store shelves in the year 2001 for the original Xbox.

Halo: Reach is the short version of the longer title, Halo: Reach for another game.

lol (1)

uncholowapo (1666661) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351120)

Wow, that must be a record.

Re:lol (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351186)

-21 day release?

Re:lol (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33351748)

Not even close to a record. Back in the heyday of cracking groups like TDT, Razor 1911, Fairlight, TRSi and THG we would often get software or games a month or two before release. Sometimes we even got purely internal beta versions.

Long end of the stick. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33351142)

"What appears to be the full version of Bungie's Halo Reach game has turned up on a number of file sharing sites. The hotly-anticipated multi-player shooter had been hosted on a private area of the Microsoft Live site in order for journalists to preview the release, but Microsoft has admitted that a security breach has meant that pirates have been able to bypass personal download codes given to writers. Disk images of the game are now appearing on a number of public torrent and P2P sites as well as on popular NZB aggregators and Usenet binaries newsgroups."

Whew! I'm sure glad we lengthened copyright to prevent something like this.

Re:Long end of the stick. (5, Funny)

miggyb (1537903) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351232)

Clearly we now need copyright to extend backwards into the past, before the work is completely finished. Otherwise, how are artists like Da Vinci supposed to protect unfinished works like the Mona Lisa?

Re:Long end of the stick. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33351518)

Am I the only one who's thinking this might be a "leaked" release sent out specifically to justify Iron Curtain tactics to follow, which will be directed against public torrent, P2P, aggregators, and Usenet sites?

And here we thought the Google/Verizon deal operated in a vacuum. (cue sarcasm)

It's not the massive catastrophes that destroy entirely, but the tiny little compromises made every day that eat at your soul til nothing remains.

Better go after those pirates (5, Funny)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351152)

They're stealing potential profit! It's almost as bad as competition between businesses, or a consumer informing other consumers about a bad company/poorly made product. In all three cases, potential profit is being stolen.

We must stop these people from hurting our businesses. Also, this clearly wouldn't have happened if there had been super powerful DRM installed with the game!

Re:Better go after those pirates (0, Troll)

spaceducky (1758284) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351168)

Says john pretending to be innocent.

Re:Better go after those pirates (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33351196)

Where's Captain Obvious when you need him? :-)

Re:Better go after those pirates (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33351208)

Well, since this is a multiplayer game, it's not going to matter, really. But, still, why shouldn't companies have time to release and market their products whenever the fuck they want to? I can't really see how you can defend pirates releasing a game before the company intends to.

Re:Better go after those pirates (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351248)

Defend pirates? I assure you that my intention was to show my appreciation for these poor, innocent companies. No one has the right to steal another persons non-existent profits. Ugh, pirates anger me so.

Re:Better go after those pirates (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33351954)

Well, if a game is pirated before it's officially released, maybe the people who would potentially pre-buy or actually legitimately buy the game once it was officially released decide they can't wait and pirate instead?

Re:Better go after those pirates (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 4 years ago | (#33352462)

I've already taken that into account, and I completely agree. They're stealing from future versions of Microsoft and Bungie, obviously.

The Game Sucks Regardless (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33352078)

The graphics and gameplay are laughably outdated and crappy.

Not worth the download.

Re:The Game Sucks Regardless (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33352816)

I can tell by the pixels, and having seen quite a few crappy games in my time.

Re:Better go after those pirates (1)

bakamorgan (1854434) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351212)

oh yea maybe a super powerfull DRM like ubisoft has?

Re:Better go after those pirates (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351224)

No, it needs to be far more annoying and restrictive than that to ensure the best security possible. Pirates will never get around that.

Re:Better go after those pirates (1)

bakamorgan (1854434) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351272)

I believe there was one called starforce...that didn't last long either.

Re:Better go after those pirates (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351296)

It should have been far more annoying and restrictive, then. That would stop those pirates cold in their tracks!

Re:Better go after those pirates (1)

someone1234 (830754) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351536)

Like randomly damaging the equipment of anyone, even legal 'licensors'?
Yeah, been there done that.

Re:Better go after those pirates (1)

ElKry (1544795) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351990)

I believe all we have left to program is a DRM system that nukes your computer from orbit. After all, it's the only way to be sure.

Re:Better go after those pirates (1)

skirmish666 (1287122) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351250)

They're stealing potential profit! It's almost as bad as competition between businesses, or a consumer informing other consumers about a bad company/poorly made product. In all three cases, potential profit is being stolen.

We must stop these people from hurting our businesses. Also, this clearly wouldn't have happened if there had been super powerful DRM installed with the game!

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the business which is going to be suffering the most impact from this leak Bungie? AFAIK Bungie isn't doing anything more than running their own business, not hurting others.

Re:Better go after those pirates (1, Funny)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351276)

Bungie is stealing potential profit away from other companies due to the fact that some people might buy one of their games instead of a game from another company. Pirates are doing something similar, only without money involved. We can't condone these pirates who are stealing non-existence profit, no matter what pirate-enablers say or think.

Clearly spending millions more on DRM that will totally never be cracked and millions more on going after these pirates (police have nothing better to do, anyway) is a good investment.

Re:Better go after those pirates (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33351316)

If some of the people pirating don't buy but they would have without the pirate being available there's nothing "potential" about the profits lost. A very telling fact is game sales stopped growing a year ago when projections seemed to indicate another 5 years of growth. Something is changing and I doubt it's because people stopped playing games. In the end fewer games will be made and jobs will be lost. Simple fact, the corporate bigwigs aren't the ones taking the loss it's the people making the games. They are the poor saps in the middle

Signed Poor Sap

Re:Better go after those pirates (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33351386)

A very telling fact is game sales stopped growing a year ago when projections seemed to indicate another 5 years of growth.

People are no longer lining up to spend 60 dollars on a video game - piracy must be to blame!

Re:Better go after those pirates (1, Informative)

grainofsand (548591) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351416)

Right - "projections" are never wrong are they. I would like to have had a dollar for every time life had not met my "projections".

Is it just possible that growth has slowed either natuarally or as a reusult of a major econimc downturn - the likes of which many contries have recently experienced?

Re:Better go after those pirates (2, Interesting)

gmhowell (26755) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351870)

Holy shit! People don't drop as many $50 bills on frivolous entertainment in a down economy? That's just crazy talk!

Re:Better go after those pirates (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351426)

Yes, stealing non-existent property is completely logical and totally possible. Again, I'm not defending these evil pirates at all. I'm just stating why piracy is completely wrong. These are the anti-piracy arguments that a majority of us pirate-haters use, and they are completely valid.

"If some of the people pirating don't buy but they would have without the pirate being available there's nothing "potential" about the profits lost."
I know, it's just... wrong! It brings my blood to a boil, too. Much like how if one business wasn't around, the customers that would have bought products from that business would likely visit another business to buy products. Therefore, the first business is stealing profits from the rest of the businesses. There's nothing potential about that, either.

Ugh. I'm getting so fired up about all these injustices! I need to take a break...

Re:Better go after those pirates (1)

AmonTheMetalhead (1277044) | more than 4 years ago | (#33352088)

I would love to buy games, but the ones coming out these days are either crap (my personal opinion) or not available for the platforms i own (usually it's both), so i play old 8 & 16 bit games & the occasional PlayStation title.

Re:Better go after those pirates (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33354718)

Too bad for you they don't make NES or Sega Genesis games anymore

Re:Better go after those pirates (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33352376)

The thing that changed is that most mainstream games are complete garbage these days.

I'll take Warsow over Halo any day. It's the same gameplay except one is free and the other is not.

Re:Better go after those pirates (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33352022)

god you are stupid.
it is NOTHING LIKE competition between businesses, as you would know if you had ever run one. Competing businesses would have to spend the $30 million+ to develop a competing product. Asshole self-righteous thieves like many of those pro-piracy kids here, just steal other peoples work.

if you can't see the difference, then you are severely, critically retarded.

And why is this news? Is this now officially the new piratebay? I don't come here to learn about stolen software, I come here for tech news. Leave this shit to torrentfreak and other childish warez sites.

Re:Better go after those pirates (2, Insightful)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 4 years ago | (#33352504)

What? I hate piracy, my friend. Those thieves steal from future versions of the author/business that created the product. But, really, how can you not see how competition between businesses is stealing potential profit? When someone goes to one business to buy a product instead of going to another business, the first business is stealing from the other business because the other business could have had more profit (remember, future profit is being stolen) if the person went to their business to buy the product, instead.

Also, I'm sure glad that you agree with my point of view about piracy being evil, instead of thinking I was being sarcastic and then simply bashing my argument without even commenting on what was logically wrong with it. Good thing you didn't do that.

We have to stop these injustices, my friend. After all, copying something is stealing because it steals non-existent profit from the developer (the future version of the developer), just like businesses steal non-existent profit from each other when they compete. We can't allow this to happen. Something must be done.

Re:Better go after those pirates (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33352712)

god you are thick.
Businesses INVEST money up front of the basis of selling their product in the future. Yes, thsoe profits are non existent at the time, but the investment takes place on the best-guess that thsoe profits will be made.
Are your eally genuinely this fucking thick that you think that businesses continue to invest when people liek you will take the product for free and reduce their revenue to zero?
Jesus christ,. it amazes me how retarded some of the anti-copyright bullshit people spout can be.This game took millions to develop, why the fuck do slashdot readers think they are entitled to take that work for free? Fucking grow up.

Re:Better go after those pirates (2, Funny)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 4 years ago | (#33353386)

What are you talking about, friend? You're the one being thick. You support the theft of non-existent (future) profit by supporting competition. You might as well support piracy. Some businesses think they have the right to steal customers (thereby likely stealing future profit away from other businesses) away from other businesses. This is absurd. You should do your part to help stop the theft of future profits.

oh noes (1)

bakamorgan (1854434) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351174)

Saw this posted a few days ago. Meh, it's not like it was going to get pirated after it was officially released like any other xbox game. So another xbox patch to go out and brick some more xbox consoles are in order?

bypass personal download codes??? (1, Flamebait)

Michael Kristopeit (1751814) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351176)

why couldn't the attackers have simply used one of the distributed personal download codes? does microsoft just not want to come out and directly accuse one of the writers of leaking the game? it seems likely that one of the writers microsoft gave access to allowed someone else the same access.

Does this mean... (3, Insightful)

Majik Sheff (930627) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351204)

I can redeem my Gamestop super exclusive unlocked shiny armor of orgasmic distraction early too?

I despise software that is deliberately broken. If publishers want to make some extra sales by rewarding preorders I'm fine with it, but after a few months the items should be available to everyone. I paid for the thing, I should not be prevented from using all of the features.

Re:Does this mean... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33352102)

Yes, but have you paid enough, is the question.

Re:Does this mean... (1)

Mike Mentalist (544984) | more than 4 years ago | (#33352632)

How is it deliberately broken? The requirements for getting the extra armour are that you pre-order the game. If you don't fulfill those requirements then you don't get the armour.

Re:Does this mean... (1)

Tom9729 (1134127) | more than 4 years ago | (#33352836)

You do realize the "bonus" from Gamestop for preordering is literally a belt and a little tiny chest plate, both of which have no effect on the gameplay whatsoever...

Re:Does this mean... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33354466)

You do realize the "bonus" from Gamestop for preordering is literally a belt and a little tiny chest plate, both of which have no effect on the gameplay whatsoever...

Whoosh.

Re:Does this mean... (1)

Majik Sheff (930627) | more than 4 years ago | (#33354536)

Yes, I understand this. I was speaking in more broad terms toward the principle of the thing.

If I paid for the product, the contents of the box are mine to do with as I please (short of distributing copies). I will not have the publisher or anyone tell me what to do with software that I purchased any more than I would allow a car dealer dictate to me which cities I can drive to.

Re:Does this mean... (1)

Gulthek (12570) | more than 4 years ago | (#33354600)

the contents of the box are mine to do with as I please (short of distributing copies)

Sorry, but that just isn't the case.

Permission? (1)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351216)

If you put the game in a machine without asking the owner, would he be in fault for putting it public or be your own? Even if he owns a lot of machines (i.e. thousands, after all, is his botnet, not yours), the faulty action was probably in Microsoft side.

'aggressive' waste of time (2, Insightful)

postmortem (906676) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351220)

Unless they cut power to all XBOX owners, I don't see how you can stop known leak on internet in 2010. Better spend money and resources elsewhere. Release it few weeks earlier?

Re:'aggressive' waste of time (1)

aeiah (937509) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351274)

They'll just bring out an xbox update and issue a new wave of bans to xbox live if it matters that much to them. that'll stop most people using it until a copy of the officially released version shows up on P2P in 3 weeks

Re:'aggressive' waste of time (1)

ILuvRamen (1026668) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351506)

it's for the future, smarty. If they find the person who originated it and sue the hell out of them, they think it will deter the next smart ass who thinks they're "so cool" for leaking other games early. Just so we're clear, Microsoft is a bunch of dumbasses for opening up the servers and giving copies out to just whoever claims to be reporting on it in order to make more money on an already self-marketing product. The person who leaked it is a dumbass because they're going to get caught and sued into bankruptcy and probably prison. The people downloading it are dumbasses because they're handing Microsoft their IPs and Live and Xbox unique identifiers when they connect with the illegal version plus the last thing we need are more dumb 13 year olds whining about how Microsoft should unban them cuz all they did was steal a game and play it illegally. Pretty much no smart, sensible parties in this entire thing.

Re:'aggressive' waste of time (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351664)

Agreed. People are stealing from Microsoft's infinite pool of copies, and they must be stopped. People are stealing from Microsoft in the future, where they would have made profits had people not pirated their game.

Re:'aggressive' waste of time (5, Insightful)

d3ac0n (715594) | more than 4 years ago | (#33353574)

Actually, if you RTFA, the attackers used a vulnerability in the website hosting the code to break in and BYPASS the journalist login feature. So technically, no reporters are gonna get sued since none of them did anything wrong.

Let's be honest, the real problem here was that MS was using the "Security by Obscurity" model to hide the test code site. It even says ITA that it was a "secret" website. (As if a website could EVER be secret for long, especially one connected to Microsoft.) The fact that anyone at MS still thinks that security by obscurity is wise reveals that despite all of the improvements in Win7, There is an ingrained culture in MS that still doesn't get it.

Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33351242)

  • People who weren't going to buy the game might try it out.
  • If you're going to play it multiplayer, which has to be 99% of what the game's about, you want a legit version.

Ergo, you gave it to journalists for publicity then got upset because it got publicity. Word of mouth from those "zero day" releases will get you more paying customers than the journalists will, especially when everybody's playing Starcraft II instead of reading game magazines and websites.

Only for specific Xbox360 mod (2, Informative)

JorDan Clock (664877) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351256)

The version leaked is only useable for those with a specific kind of Xbox 360 mod, namely a JTAG mod. Basically, they aren't going to be playing on Xbox Live with this game or they'll kind their Xbox banned (and possibly Live account along with it). This is not a version that can be burned to a disc and played with a DVD-ROM modded 360, which is the most common mod and has a low detection rate.

low detection rate? (1)

YesIAmAScript (886271) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351352)

If you play it in the next week, they can easily detect that and surmise you pirated it.

Can anyone explain why you need a JTAG mode to play this game? The only reason I have heard that makes sense is that a JTAG mode allows you to unban your console (by changing the ID) so you can play it on Live with impunity. Anyone who doesn't have a JTAG mod will get their console banned and won't be able to use it anymore.

Re:low detection rate? (5, Interesting)

NoZart (961808) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351528)

>>> Can anyone explain why you need a JTAG mode to play this game?

Because the game was released as an unencrypted download title. This way, you can not generate a working ISO to burn from it, as you don't know which way to encrypt it to match the release discs.

>>> JTAG mode allows you to unban your console (by changing the ID)

Yeah, but you need an existing keyvault from an unbanned XBox to do that, so this method is highly impractical.
The workaround for JTAGs to use this leak is more along the lines playing the games over Xlink Kai, a LAN-tunneling service, which will provide a crappy gameplay experience. /Tinfoil hat on/
The way this was leaked (only works on JTAGs which are few and gimped multiplayer and MP is the main draw of the game) makes me think that it is possible this is intentional. All the Youtube clips showing ingame details work perfectly as some sort of guerilla marketing to amp up the hype. /Tinfoil hat off/

Re:Only for specific Xbox360 mod (1)

Beelzebud (1361137) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351366)

People have already found ways around that.

Re:Only for specific Xbox360 mod (2, Funny)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 4 years ago | (#33352278)

Pirating Reach is a bit of a stretch, then.

The Media Cycle (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33351304)

Juilan Assange is so yesterday when you have Gamez for Windows.

Justice is done.

JTAGED (3, Informative)

st1rguy (1180853) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351324)

I don't think this will hurt MS much , a JTAG mod is out of hacker skill range of most Xbox gamers. http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-JTAG-your-Xbox-360-and-run-homebrew/ [instructables.com]

Re:JTAGED (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351458)

Yeah, but these evil pirates also like to share information. They might tell each other how to do so, reading a few steps. We must stop them.

Re:JTAGED (1)

internettoughguy (1478741) | more than 4 years ago | (#33352162)

:O what the heck r u talkin bout i cant understand it :@ comment on a simpler way to put it

An actual comment from that instructable, I think the GP's point still stands :).

Re:JTAGED (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 4 years ago | (#33352524)

Oh, of course. I had temporarily forgotten that most people only know enough about technology to use a television remote.

Re:JTAGED (1)

d3ac0n (715594) | more than 4 years ago | (#33353618)

Cheeky,

Obviously you have been being intentionally sarcastic/ironic/whatever for the entire article here, and that's fine. I've gotten a good laugh at it, thank you.

However, you have unintentionally swerved into the truth here; Most people really DO know only enough about technology to work the remote. Some not even that much. Which is why this isn't really a threat. Nobody is going to use this to play online, as the only people with enough skill/intelligence to figure out how to do it also know enough not to try.

Re:JTAGED (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33352508)

what embarrasing bullshit. Sharing information is the justification used by wikileaks for sharing stuff the government doesn't want you to know. or its the argument for sharing academic thesis that were paid for by the state.
Its not an arguemnt for taking a commercial piece of work, that cost tens of millions to make, and pays for hundreds if not thousands of peoples jobs, and reducing that work to a value of $0, out of petty, silly, tight-assed spite by a bunch of kids.
Maybe if you actually grow up and get a job writing software, and after 3 years work, your boss hands you a redundancy notice, and tells you that no, you arent getting any bonus, or any redundancy payment, because the firm made a huge loss on that software, maybe then you will have truly grown up and see what a laod of immature bullshit this 'information wants to be free' meme was?

you need to do a JTAG MOD to use your own HDD? (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 4 years ago | (#33354076)

you need to do a JTAG MOD to use your own HDD?

Why can't M$ be like Sony and let you use your own HDD?

security breach?? (1, Troll)

kernelphr34k (1179539) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351348)

Microsoft had a security breach??? No way!!

HALO BREACH !! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33351394)

Get it, breach instead of reach? Yes?

640p fun for all (0, Flamebait)

AHuxley (892839) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351396)

All the joy of 640p textures again and again :)

So what? (1)

KarlIsNotMyName (1529477) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351398)

This always happens. Maybe not always ahead of the official release, but piracy is a reality. It hasn't killed any major games yet, and you're wasting your time, and more importantly money, worrying about it.

Well, this just proves it! (4, Insightful)

billsayswow (1681722) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351606)

This is why everyone releases games for the console these days. Everyone pirates PC games, but no one can pirate for the consoles...

Re:Well, this just proves it! (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351672)

You read my mind, my friend. You read my mind...

Re:Well, this just proves it! (0)

thegarbz (1787294) | more than 4 years ago | (#33352592)

but no one can pirate for the consoles...

You ignorant or blind?

Re:Well, this just proves it! (2, Funny)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 4 years ago | (#33353534)

but no one can pirate for the consoles...

You ignorant or blind?

Understanding sarcasm is soooo overrated.

A few other things this proves: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33352926)

This of course also proves that:
DRM doesn't work
It's the evil DRM that causes people to pirate
It's the price that makes people pirate
It's the quality of the game that makes people pirate
It's the lack of demos that makes people pirate
Piracy is just a trial! I'm sure after a month of playing, people are sure to go out and buy the game when it finally comes on sale!
Piracy is good for sales! Why, all the people who pirated are sure to tell their friends how great a game this is. And I'm sure those friends would be more than happy to wait a month to buy the game, rather than just pirate it like their good friend did, because these people don't deserve free games like their pirate friend does!

Re:A few other things this proves: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33353954)

I thought this was a joke, but I dread thinking you are serious, and this bullshit makes sense to you.
If this is true, explain why thousands pirated the humble indie bundle.
It was 'pay what you want'
it had no DRM
there were demos
they were critically and popularly acclaimed games.

And yet still self-righteous assholes like you pirated it, and tried to shout to the world that it was justifiied.
You are fucking scum.

I bet you have never done a fucking days work in your lfie, and yet you feel entitled to take other peoples work for free. Go fucking play in the road you scumbag.

Re:Well, this just proves it! (1)

pckl300 (1525891) | more than 4 years ago | (#33353494)

The thing is, this leak won't prevent the game from having record-breaking sales on launch day. The percentage of Xbox owners that can/will make use of this leak is minuscule.

Re:Well, this just proves it! (4, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 4 years ago | (#33354170)

A PC doesn't have to be modded to work with pirate software, a console generally does. This alone ensures that piracy will never be even remotely as prevalent on consoles as it is on PC's.

Come after me, Microsoft... (4, Funny)

Khyber (864651) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351674)

Are you mad you failed to secure your permissions for downloaded files?

You only have yourself to blame. I only showed people how to bypass your bullshit, just like I showed the nice people at OZMODS how to bypass the PS3 protections.

Please, come after me. I'll fucking wipe out your life and livelihood when I expose your internal e-mails showing how you PLANNED this out. We're talking a SECOND anti-trust lawsuit with full exposure this time, assholes. FUCKING TEST ME.

I *LOVE* having spies in industry. Your NDA be damned. I'll expose you for the Totalitarian Communists that you are and make your stock price plummet so hard you'll fucking wish you didn't come after me.

I owned EA, you think you stand any better chance?

Bring, it, Microsoft. You already know who I am, please, step up so I can wipe your ass out and claim self-defense from INTERNATIONAL TRAITORS SELLING TECHNOLOGY TO FORBIDDEN COUNTRIES.

You don't stand a chance.

Re:Come after me, Microsoft... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33351932)

Are you mad you failed to secure your permissions for downloaded files?

You only have yourself to blame. I only showed people how to bypass your bullshit, just like I showed the nice people at OZMODS how to bypass the PS3 protections.

Please, come after me. I'll fucking wipe out your life and livelihood when I expose your internal e-mails showing how you PLANNED this out. We're talking a SECOND anti-trust lawsuit with full exposure this time, assholes. FUCKING TEST ME.

I *LOVE* having spies in industry. Your NDA be damned. I'll expose you for the Totalitarian Communists that you are and make your stock price plummet so hard you'll fucking wish you didn't come after me.

I owned EA, you think you stand any better chance?

Bring, it, Microsoft. You already know who I am, please, step up so I can wipe your ass out and claim self-defense from INTERNATIONAL TRAITORS SELLING TECHNOLOGY TO FORBIDDEN COUNTRIES.

You don't stand a chance.

Alrighty then... Someone didn't take their meds today.

Re:Come after me, Microsoft... (5, Funny)

TheJokeExplainer (1760894) | more than 4 years ago | (#33351946)

Uh. I am at a real loss on how to explain this.

-Joke Explainer

Re:Come after me, Microsoft... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33352878)

The scary part is that he believes it. Khyber routinely posts on how "OMG! Group X STOLE my UBER INGENIOUS idea on hacking PS3!!"

Re:Come after me, Microsoft... (1)

Theoboley (1226542) | more than 4 years ago | (#33354216)

A bunch of arabian themed rappers stole his idea to hack the ps3? Last i heard they just bought an NES to play Mario Twins.

Re:Come after me, Microsoft... (5, Funny)

TheCarAnalogyGuy (1885500) | more than 4 years ago | (#33353214)

Yeah, it's like a... when you roll down the windows and....

I Got nothin

~TheCarAnalogyGuy

Re:Come after me, Microsoft... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33352184)

oh my, he spells cyber with a 'Kh'. He must be leet, stand clear.

Re:Come after me, Microsoft... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33352254)

You are an idiot.

Re:Come after me, Microsoft... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33352994)

Carefull...it sounds like plain old pursuit will not do and so they have unsheathed their lightsabers for the more aggressive approach. I wonder what Mr. Lucas thinks about this. I'm sure he is rousing his own detachment of aggressive litigious pursuers as we speak for some kind of counter pur....ahh screw it.

*gets popcorn*

Re:Come after me, Microsoft... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33354684)

Damn.. Lol

Bans were last year... (1)

annex1 (920373) | more than 4 years ago | (#33352064)

One has to wonder, after the mass bannings last year, pirates and modders (be they the same or otherwise) have smartened up because nobody knew exactly what criteria and flags Microsoft were using to catch the modders. Most modding forums now have a general agreement that dashboard updates were used to catch the mods. Be this the case, the modders have mostly stopped downloading dashboard updates. This would be a great way for Microsoft to catch modders. The only way to run the ISO, cracked to bypass unique keys, would be to have a modded box. Most anticipated game of the year for the 360, of course a LOT of people are going to jump all over this. Not hard for MS to look at a list of gamertags that have played the game prior to launch and compare that with authorised gamertags that received keys. Any heavy-hitting game like this that MS is publishing, especially a flagship like a Halo title, will certainly earn their attention to protect their income.

Wow, that's kind of earlier than I expected... (1)

John Pfeiffer (454131) | more than 4 years ago | (#33352304)

Holy shit. Microsoft must be LIVID.

I expect to see a massive increase in the volume of cheap '100% working great' Xbox 360 items on eBay in the next couple weeks as they ban the consoles of everyone that plays it off of Xbox Li-- Oh damn.

Nevermind. I imagine Microsoft is quite pleased with this turn of events. What with the increased demand for new 360s and whatnot...

Re:Wow, that's kind of earlier than I expected... (1)

killmenow (184444) | more than 4 years ago | (#33354084)

Holy shit. Microsoft must be LIVID.

Only because now people other than paid shills will review the game and let everybody know what a piece of shit it is.

Funny... (1)

DickeyP (1651593) | more than 4 years ago | (#33352316)

I always expect to see the 100s of posts meant to somehow justify or downplay the pirating of *insert media type here* . It's only now that I wonder how this site considers such a thing "business as usual" and yet has a relatively high percentage of computer science professionals. I know if I work on some code for a length of time, and that code is marketable, I expect to be compensated for it. I know that "fair compensation" is not the main point of contention in these pirates vs. ninjas (aka evil corps) arguments, but I'd say it is often overlooked. Take some damn responsibility people! A pirate is a pirate, no matter their motivation or personal justifications. For the record, I have pirated things....mostly music.

Re:Funny... (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 4 years ago | (#33352562)

Agreed. Wait, you pirated music? What kind of evil person would do such a thing? Oh, wait, a pirate. Your comment was looking good until you mentioned that, but now I see that you're nothing more than a hypocrite. I bet you don't even have anything against piracy. Let me guess, you also think that when one business steals future profit from another business by luring in a customer that had thought about going to the other business is fine. You support thieves who steal potential profit. For shame.

Leaked? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33352464)

Maybe they should have uploaded it on Wikileaks. ^^

Pursue. In china. vietnam ... (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 4 years ago | (#33353184)

pursue if you can find them ...

"Information wants to be freeeeeeee...." (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33353236)

So what are you going to charge the "stealers" with - taking 1s and 0s? What crime has been committed? "Halo" can be copied without cost to anybody. I wasn't going to buy it anwyay. Let's get into a long and pointless discussion on the differences between 'theft', 'piracy', and 'copyright infringement.' "Can't win, don't bother". Boldrin and Levine nonsense pseudo-intellectual anti-copyright argument.

have I missed any?

outsourced? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33353466)

I wonder if they outsourced part of the development to India... my company did that once... and a few months down the road our software was suddenly available on filesharing networks for free.

Big surprise!

Misleading headline (1)

Rooked_One (591287) | more than 4 years ago | (#33353584)

I went scouring the torrent sites just to realize there was no PC port yet...

Thats what I get for trying on my eyepatch before the coffee.

Come, genie! Get back in the bottle. (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 4 years ago | (#33354220)

Microsoft is said to be "aggressively pursuing" whoever grabbed the files without their permission.

Yes, that does them a lot of good...

Original Uploader likely MSFT or Bungee (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33354736)

What better way to uber-banhammer XBL than a situation like this? It's not like the leak will actually hurt potential sales.... Pirate != Lost Sale ... they wouldn't have bought it anyway... they're pirates.... If the tech didn't exist to "backup" games, these people would probably just borrow the game from a friend at some point - not to copy, but simply to play it through.

Halo 2 was leaked in much the same way, but somehow it still set a record for the best-selling game at that time. Like it or not, Halo is the Harry-Potter of video games.

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