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Drunken Employee Shoots Server

samzenpus posted more than 4 years ago | from the pc-load-letter dept.

Businesses 309

Target Practice writes "A drunken mortgage worker at RANLife Home Loans decided for unknown reasons to take out the company's $100,000 server with a .45-caliber automatic, blaming the damage on an imagined assailant who: mugged him, assaulted him with his own weapon, drugged him, and then broke into his office to shoot said server. According to acquaintances, he had threatened earlier that day to shoot the server and maybe himself."

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In his defense (5, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380418)

Police did find a knife on the floor, corroborating his account that the server came at him first.

Re:In his defense (4, Funny)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380462)

"Quick, Ned! He's comin' right for us!"
"NNNNNNNNOH-NO, OUT OF AMMO"

Re:In his defense (5, Funny)

h2okies (1203490) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380504)

Police did find an IBM Blade on the floor, corroborating his account that the server came at him first. There ...fixed that for your

Re:In his defense (0)

LifesABeach (234436) | more than 4 years ago | (#33381072)

Essentially, the server was considered 'Homeless'.

Re:In his defense (1)

DaveAtFraud (460127) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380582)

Forget the knife! Clippy did it.

Cheers,
Dave

Re:In his defense (2, Funny)

thijsh (910751) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380704)

Must have been one hell of a bug he encountered, the error it caused was certainly fatal. And he invented the only manly way of sending the server a kill signal.

Re:In his defense (5, Funny)

Anonymusing (1450747) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380772)

And they also found that the server was packing several blades...

Re:In his defense (3, Funny)

SphericalCrusher (739397) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380800)

Also in his defense, the server was running Windows Server 2003. Poor guy.

Re:In his defense (2, Funny)

Compaqt (1758360) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380972)

Did this guy pull the chute and slide down on his way out?

Ahhh alcohol ... (5, Funny)

oldspewey (1303305) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380456)

Alcohol. Is there anything it can't do?

Re:Ahhh alcohol ... (0, Offtopic)

denis-The-menace (471988) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380670)

increase appetite

Re:Ahhh alcohol ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33380718)

On the contrary, I tend to snack more when I'm drinking than when I'm not...

Re:Ahhh alcohol ... (3, Funny)

moogied (1175879) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380724)

Then why is it every time I get drunk the girl is skinny, but when I wake up she is fat?? She is clearly just pigging out after I pass out.

Re:Ahhh alcohol ... (5, Funny)

Moraelin (679338) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380720)

"Avoid strong drink. It can cause you to shoot at tax collectors...and miss!"
-- Robert A. Heinlein

Re:Ahhh alcohol ... (5, Insightful)

EricTheGreen (223110) | more than 4 years ago | (#33381048)

Hmm...make me attractive?

He's Living the Dream, Baby! (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33380476)

Is there a sysadmin among us that hasn't, at one time or another, wanted to shoot a server?

Re:He's Living the Dream, Baby! (5, Funny)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380554)

Troubleshoot! I asked you to troubleshoot the server! Oh, for pete's sake!

Re:He's Living the Dream, Baby! (2, Funny)

JonJ (907502) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380592)

No, I didn't really have any problems shooting it..

Re:He's Living the Dream, Baby! (5, Funny)

vegiVamp (518171) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380792)

The server was trouble, so he shot it.

Re:He's Living the Dream, Baby! (5, Funny)

twilightzero (244291) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380902)

He must have been playing Paranoia the night before.

"You play a troubleshooter. You go out, find trouble, and shoot it."

Re:He's Living the Dream, Baby! (2, Insightful)

Arancaytar (966377) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380908)

On that note, it's lucky he went for the server instead of a user.

Re:He's Living the Dream, Baby! (3, Insightful)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380948)

Actually, this employee was clearly the victim of a BOFH, who in his brilliance not only drove him to drink and made him crazy, but also conveniently destroy the server with evidence of the BOFH's malfeasance. My hat is off to him.

"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it means (5, Informative)

NevarMore (248971) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380478)

"Automatic" probably does not mean what you think it means.

"Automatic" weapons are typically ones that fire continuously as long as the trigger is pressed.

It can also mean "automatic" as in it resets for you. This second usage is a little archaic and is now commonly called 'semi-automatic'.

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (1)

wagnerrp (1305589) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380556)

He could have had a MAC-10 or a Thompson....

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33380726)

he could have.

and a slashdot reader could have a girlfriend.

but let's not kid ourselves.

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (1)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380962)

> He could have had a MAC-10 or a Thompson....

He could have had a Tommy Gun too but in all likelihood he just had M1911 pistol or something similar.

Between anti-gun/anti-prole liberal media and the tendency to overhype stuff, there will likely never be an accurate account when it comes to firearms.

"automatic" just sounds more exciting.

Nevermind that it really doesn't conform to the vernacular understanding of that term (in guns or anything else).

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (1)

byersjus (987526) | more than 4 years ago | (#33381068)

Thompson = Tommy Gun

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (2, Informative)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380608)

To the layperson, automatic can mean either semi- or full-. Austin Powers said, "I've got my 9 milli automatic!" If you're referring to a belt-fed weapon though, most people don't say it's an automatic. They said it's fully-automatic or full-auto.

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (2, Insightful)

scosco62 (864264) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380692)

I think it's a holdover from the "Roaring Twenties" - I don't think any reasonable person familiar with firearms has used that term in North America, in the last twenty years. The problem is that the media professionals (either intentionally or unintentionally) use the term to describe a particular firearm, neglecting to understand the ramifications of using an archaic term. I do believe that it's more a case of laziness more than overt anti-gun alarmism; but who knows. Think Edward G. Robbinson.

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (3, Informative)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380978)

It's not "laziness". It's intentional and overt manipulation. They want to sex up the article.

"Man fires pistol into computer" just isn't sexy enough.

It sounds more like Alexander Hamilton losing his temper than Rambo. It's not exciting enough.

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (2, Informative)

Ben4jammin (1233084) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380680)

People not familiar with firearms tend to get confused on the difference between "automatic" and "auto-loader".

Automatic=1 trigger pull (and hold) and it fires until the clip is empty Auto-loader=1 trigger pull (and release) means one shot fired and the next round loaded in the chamber

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (2, Interesting)

HopefulIntern (1759406) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380768)

What about a handgun that, when no more rounds are chambered, the slide stays back with the breech open so that when a new mag is popped in you can simply release the slide to chamber another round? As opposed to a pistol that needs to be cocked for every new mag inserted? Is there a name for that?

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33380868)

Single Action. You first have to cock it before you fire the first round. Once you fire a round it will cock itself back again. The chief benefit is that the trigger is much lighter and responsive.

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (1)

HopefulIntern (1759406) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380936)

That's not exactly what I meant. I meant what is it called when, upon firing the last round in the magazine, the slide stays back, allowing you to load another magazine, and then hitting a button to release the slide forward, chambering another round?

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33380996)

that's called a semi-automatic pistol. they all do that. name one that doesn't, go ahead, i dare you.

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (1)

LiENUS (207736) | more than 4 years ago | (#33381062)

Keltec p-11?

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (1)

LiENUS (207736) | more than 4 years ago | (#33381106)

Ruger lcp as well

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (2, Informative)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380834)

The Colt 1911 Govt model is usually referred to as a "single-action automatic". It is chambered for .45ACP, the ACP being "Automatic Colt Pistol". It's the traditional term associated with this weapon.

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (1)

rubycodez (864176) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380878)

associated with many other weapons too, as there is .25 ACP, .32 ACP, .380 ACP, etc.

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33380882)

Right. 1911. That's a century ago. I think that qualifies - as the parent stated - as archaic.

Now get off my lawn, and go back to school. Shoo!

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (2, Insightful)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 4 years ago | (#33381002)

Right. 1911. That's a century ago. I think that qualifies - as the parent stated - as archaic.

The 1911 pattern .45 ACP is still produced today and is still one of the most popular and commonly-used pistols on the market.. Not archaic, just a classic.

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (1)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 4 years ago | (#33381022)

An M-16A1 is described by the USMC as a "semi-automatic". So clearly this generic use of the term "automatic" is probably a bit archaic as well as not being sufficiently precise (even for back in 1911).

THIS is the sort of nonsense that's killing them and has been since before the rise of the Internet Blogger.

OTOH, simply refering things to what that are (pistol,rifle,machine gun) goes a long way to clear this sort of stuff up. Journalists are supposed to be providing that information rather than obscuring it.

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (2, Informative)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 4 years ago | (#33381050)

Really? Because the A1 was a select-fire rifle with safe-semi-full modes. The A2 has safe-semi-burst modes, where one trigger pull fires 3 rounds.

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (1)

rubycodez (864176) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380852)

actually, the gun manufacturers still use the terminology. several of my weapon's manuals have titles such as "Colt Automatic Pistol .45 ACP"

Re:"Automatic" doesn't mean what you think it mean (2, Informative)

karcirate (1685354) | more than 4 years ago | (#33381078)

Generally, the media will call a semi-auto an automatic. It's much more sensational.

And it happens to be that the caliber in this case was .45 ACP, which stands for Automatic Colt Pistol.

yeah (3, Funny)

Velox_SwiftFox (57902) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380480)

They always try to blame it on the hardware.

The real question... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33380494)

Has anyone considered that maybe the server deserved it?

Re:The real question... (1)

spikeb (966663) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380562)

haha yes :)

Re:The real question... (1)

ericdewey (167132) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380638)

Some of mine certainly do

Re:The real question... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33380922)

Good question. It is rumored that the server was running Linux, so it is quite possible that the server deserved it.

with apologies (5, Funny)

Sporkinum (655143) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380498)

I shot the server
(but I did not shoot the disk array)

Hey man... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33380640)

...nice shot.

Re:with apologies (1)

Anonymusing (1450747) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380784)

I wish I had mod points. Thank you, sir.

Re:with apologies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33380876)

That was just perfect...

Re:with apologies (5, Funny)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380890)

I shot a server room AC in reno, just to watch it fry

Re:with apologies (3, Funny)

swamp boy (151038) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380984)

The server was then heard to be mumbling "knockin' on heaven's door".

Re:with apologies (1)

awwaiid (936955) | more than 4 years ago | (#33381054)

or: but I did not shoot the sysadmin

$100,000? (0, Flamebait)

jonesy16 (595988) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380502)

A single $100,000 server? Must be a Sun errrr Oracle machine. You can buy a hell of a lot of Dell's for $100,000.

You can (1)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380714)

But some sysadmin just ends up shooting that pile of crap Dells until you buy him Sun^H^H^HOracle instead.

Re:$100,000? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33380780)

More likely, they're referring to all of the racked equipment as 'the server', much the same way Ma and Pa Kettle would refer to their monitor as 'the CPU'.

Re:$100,000? (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380824)

$100k isn't that much really.
Sure it is a bit more beefy then the average Server but not to outrageous.

A virtualization server, with a lot of ram and storage can get really expensive really fast.

Re:$100,000? (1)

jonesy16 (595988) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380880)

You're probably right, I just don't deal with anything that big so it's foreign to me. Heck, I have to max out a Dell R910 to get anywhere close to 6 figures and I'm still short, and that seems like overkill for whatever this company would need. I only pick on Sun cause they're one of the few where I've seen preconfigured systems (SPARC systems) starting in the 6 figure range. I sure haven't seen it in the X86 world. Thanks for the info.

Re:$100,000? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33380898)

It's probably a $10,000 server with a $90,000 service contract bolted on to it....

Re:$100,000? (1)

painandgreed (692585) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380934)

A single $100,000 server? Must be a Sun errrr Oracle machine. You can buy a hell of a lot of Dell's for $100,000.

I would imagine that that would be the amount for the hardware and software setup and configuration. They probably got everything from a vendor, set up and ready to go, and if the money value has any bearing on real life, it's probably the replacement cost of everything ready to go again. It could be the cost of the entire system project, but that would be extremely cheap for server, set up, software, vendor time, training, etc.

Re:$100,000? (1)

Nadaka (224565) | more than 4 years ago | (#33381030)

I could see him taking out 100k in servers if he hit the rack at the right angle. Even lower end Servers can easily cost 5k per U. And I bet a bullet could go through most or all of a 40U rack.

self defense (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33380534)

He should claim it tried to rack him.

I call shenanigans (2, Insightful)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380550)

A $100,000 server? At a loan company? Damn, $100,000 is a LOT of box for a Physics department at a large university.

Re:I call shenanigans (1)

vicviper (140480) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380628)

If it was a mainframe 100K might have been on the low side. The price may have also included the software on it..

Re:I call shenanigans (2, Insightful)

RMH101 (636144) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380770)

Presumably someone was asked to put a cost on replacement including all the licences, internal charging of their tech department to rebuild, reconfigure, etc. A midrange server running Oracle enterprise and a few big apps can cost quite a bit when inflated that way.
It's a bit like when cops do a drug bust and quote the value of the seizure as if it were all chopped up into single gramme baggies and sold at full street price...

Re:I call shenanigans (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 4 years ago | (#33381082)

It's a bit like when cops do a drug bust and quote the value of the seizure as if it were all chopped up into single gramme baggies and sold at full street price...

And how is it that you'd be knowin' the price of single gramme baggies, now laddie?

Re:I call shenanigans (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33380822)

The server running our production ERP software is a Sun M8000 that's in the $500k range. Not shenanigans at all...

Re:I call shenanigans (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33381020)

It was the "Loan Arranger".

Re:I call shenanigans (1)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 4 years ago | (#33381042)

I wanted to thank him.

Self-defence (5, Funny)

seniorcoder (586717) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380560)

Rumor has it that the server was seen holding what the mortgage officer thought was a weapon. The officer drew and repeatedly fired his weapon, pausing to reload 15 times because he believed his life was in danger. The server was fatally hit by 87 rounds, most of them entering through the rear of the chassis. No other weapon was found at the scene. The mortgage officer has been put on temporary desk assignment while an investigation is held.

Social engineering.... (1)

gestalt_n_pepper (991155) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380568)

taken one step further.

Hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33380602)

mugged him, assaulted him with his own weapon, drugged him, and then broke into his office to shoot said server.

Try imagining if that actually happened. I can't help but laugh at the mental picture.

As an aside, Why does a mortgage worker have a conceal and carry permit and a need to pack heat at his desk job?

Joshua Lee Campbell, 23, has been charged in 3rd District Court with criminal mischief, a second-degree felony; carrying a dangerous weapon while under the influence and providing false information to police, both Class B misdemeanors; and public intoxication, a Class C misdemeanor.

Utah is a CCW state. You would think that if he didn't have a permit, they would have thrown that charge at him as well. I guess the housing market is a lot scarier than I thought.

Re:Hmm (5, Insightful)

danbeck (5706) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380754)

If he has a CCW permit and the business he was at does not have a posted sign or policy and he was following local laws and ordinances, it's fully within his right to carry if he feels the need to. Why does it matter if he was at his desk job or anywhere else? He may live in a very bad part of town, or the business he's works at could be in a high crime area. You don't fully know the details and asking "why does he need X" is no different than asking "why does this person need privacy if he's not doing anything wrong" or any asking why anyone would be doing any activity that you yourself might not agree with or may find questionable, even if it is fully within his rights under the law.

You tread a slippery slope...

Re:Hmm (1)

DrgnDancer (137700) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380944)

More to the point, I got the impression that this was after hours, so he wasn't necessarily carrying "at work". He essentially went to some local "Concert at the Park" deal that evening, got drunk, and went back to work specifically to shoot the computer. At least that's how I read the story.

Re:Hmm (1)

GooberToo (74388) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380930)

As an aside, Why does a mortgage worker have a conceal and carry permit and a need to pack heat at his desk job?

Because the US Constitution says he can. If you require another reason, you should find another country in which to live.

Its a free country. He has a right to be an idiot. He has a right to own and carry weapons. Unfortunately he used both of his rights at the same time.

Re:Hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33381114)

If you require another reason, you should find another country in which to live.

Is lobbying to change the constitution not an option? FYI, 99% of the people who say something like "if you don't like it move to saudi arabia" come off as morons of the highest degree.

He did it in reverse... (1)

coastal984 (847795) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380664)

You're supposed to shoot the server, THEN grab 2 beers and leave. This guy will fail at becoming the folk hero Steven Slater became. Now his post-mortgage plans of reality TV, book series, and magazine interviews are no more...

The server died on the way to the hospital (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33380728)

Netcraft confirmed it.

In better news, several banks of surviving ram and couple of hard drives have been salvaged and donated to a server that needs some upgrades.

Is the server OK? (5, Funny)

Johnberg (1642323) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380738)

The article didn't even mention if the server was ok or not.

If it was it an Apple server it is self defence... (2, Funny)

KiwiCanuck (1075767) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380744)

As there was either a Panther, Tiger or some type of Leopard inside.

Should of had a HP sever (2, Interesting)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380752)

Should of had a HP sever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFyXlb26ihs [youtube.com]

Re:Should of had a HP sever (1)

HopefulIntern (1759406) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380794)

beat me to it :p

Re:Should of had a HP sever (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33381004)

Should of had a HP sever

**FACEPALM**

Should've -- should have should have should have

Target Practice (1)

PseudonymousBraveguy (1857734) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380812)

I just noticed that the story was submitted by user "Target Practice". Coincidence? I think not.

A winning combo (1)

CaptainZapp (182233) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380826)

Booze and a loaded handgun.

What could actually go wrong with that?

Those mormons (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33380828)

Those Mormons just can't hold their liquor...

here's a new crime: "servercide" (1)

david.emery (127135) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380836)

Of course, on a military system I saw something in the software requirements about how the system software had to protect the computer from kinetic penetration. I asked if having the software raise Shields was an adequate software solution (leaving it to the hardware people to actually build those Shields: "Implementing this API in hardware is not a software problem....")

In the same document, by the way, was this tid-bit under environmental considerations: "The software shall recycle bits and shall make use of recycled bits to the maximum extent possible." In This Case, I found who wrote that requirement, and he admitted it was a joke he inserted to see if anyone was actually reading it. No owner for the 'kinetic damage' requirement was ever found (it was probably cut-and-paste from an unrelated system specification.)

Flame on (1)

jonesy16 (595988) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380846)

I honestly wasn't trying to flame, I'm legitimately curious as to whether he shot a single $100,000 machine or that's just a number the authorities are throwing out there as the "intrinsic worth" of the machine, e.g., includes the cost of recreating the data stored, etc.

At that price it just sounds more like a huge Sun SPARC system or something, I'm just curious what.

But was it Windows or Linux ? (2, Funny)

mbone (558574) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380864)

That's what slashdot wants to know.

(rim shot) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33380904)

Once my boss walked in and found me with my finger stuck inside of the server. I was fired, and so was the server.

What do we learn? NEVER piss off a Sysadmin! (2, Interesting)

sakari (194257) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380968)

Booyakasha! That's the Law Of Karma for you, in form of a Crazed, Drunken Gunman/Sysadmin. Didn't they learn from the case of State Of California trying to get passwords from a Lonely Sysadmin, Terry Childs [wikipedia.org] ? Sysadmins Are Crazy! They have to be, to make sense out of all that Chaos! Don't mess with them or be prepared to take the occasional bullet in your servers! ;) Anyway, a Loan Company probably deserved this after what they have done to drive people into economical crisises.

Relating to Terry Childs, http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/042710-admin-who-kept-sf-network.html [networkworld.com] :

"One of the reasons it was so expensive for the City to recover control of its network is because Childs had set routers to store configuration information in memory instead of on their hard drives, so any disruption of power would have wiped out this information. This made it very difficult for the city to reset the routers and recover administrative control of the network without reconfiguring the entire system." San Francisco spent about US$900,000 cleaning up the mess caused by Childs' actions, according to Assistant District Attorney Conrad Del Rosario."

Im Lak'Ech Sakari, A Proud Sysadmin

Don't mention the war (1)

fey000 (1374173) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380988)

Was it german? You can't fault the guy for shooting a de-server.

Don Quixote Syndrome... (1)

PmanAce (1679902) | more than 4 years ago | (#33380994)

Looks like he was suffering from the same syndrome as Don Quixote...

Makes me wonder (1)

Darth_brooks (180756) | more than 4 years ago | (#33381026)

What's the SNMP trap for "Oh on! I've been shot!" ?

Additional information (5, Funny)

Intron (870560) | more than 4 years ago | (#33381036)

The police who responded immediately called for backup.

We have all been there (1)

Revek (133289) | more than 4 years ago | (#33381066)

Haven't we?

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