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Uh... (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#33382120)

...pencil?

Re:Uh... (5, Funny)

snowraver1 (1052510) | more than 3 years ago | (#33382160)

No, they need a dialing wand. You can order one my mashing the keypad.

Re:Uh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33382428)

No, they need a dialing wand. You can order one my mashing the keypad.

As, apparently, you did when typing your message?

Re:Uh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33382572)

You infringed his copyright, bitch! WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?!

Re:Uh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33382952)

snowraver should sue Slashdot for allowing the posting of copyrighted text and the lack of pre-submission infringement scanning.

MORE FANBOY BULLSHIT (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33383158)

Fucking hell I'm sick of Apple stories. Fuck you.

Re:Uh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33383238)

No, they need a dialing wand. You can order one my mashing the keypad.

HOMER!!

Re:Uh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33384542)

Came for the dialing wand joke, leaving satisfied.

Re:Uh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33382300)

missing geek factor?

Re:Uh... (1)

Fumus (1258966) | more than 3 years ago | (#33383324)

Resistive touch screen phones with a stylus have been around for a while now. I hate capacitive because you can't have the precision you need with your fingers as opposed to a stylus.

Re:Uh... (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | more than 3 years ago | (#33385216)

Then get a stylus [tenonedesign.com] for your capacitive touchscreen.

Re:Uh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33386590)

Resistive touch screen phones with a stylus have been around for a while now. I hate capacitive because you can't have the precision you need with your fingers as opposed to a stylus.

You are telling people with fingers too fat to use a normal phone to use one with one of those tiny styluses? Boy, are you a genius.

Re:Uh... (1)

mark-t (151149) | more than 3 years ago | (#33383964)

Can a stylus even be made that works on an iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad?

Re:Uh... (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | more than 3 years ago | (#33384060)

Yes [tenonedesign.com] . Such a thing is old news at this point.

Re:Uh... (1)

Gruturo (141223) | more than 3 years ago | (#33385754)

A Sausage [engadget.com] also works :-)

Oh boy (2, Funny)

santax (1541065) | more than 3 years ago | (#33382158)

This sort of news makes me happy I gave up sys-administration on workfloors a long time ago. These don't look like the kind of people that take 'did you try the restore-cd?' for an answer.

Not fat (1)

aliddell (1716018) | more than 3 years ago | (#33382170)

Their fingers are big-boned, you insensitive clod!

Making calls on the way out? (2, Interesting)

sznupi (719324) | more than 3 years ago | (#33382178)

I'm sure those (usually / always quite horrible, so far) mobile phones for the elderly are also available in Japan...if anybody still wanted to make calls.

You know, those looking a bit like simple alphanumeric calculators, with enormous buttons.

Re:Making calls on the way out? (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 3 years ago | (#33385814)

Old person-san! Do you have trouble using complicated new phone, with small unreadable screen and many tiny buttons that infuriate your fingers? Get Jitabujira today!

iPads are not phones (4, Insightful)

longacre (1090157) | more than 3 years ago | (#33382196)

Only a matter of time until the wrestlers fashion these iPads into ninja stars when they learn of their uselessness for communication.

Re:iPads are not phones (1, Troll)

macbeth66 (204889) | more than 3 years ago | (#33382276)

Only a matter of time until the wrestlers fashion these iPads into ninja stars when they learn of their uselessness.

There, fixed it for ya.

Re:iPads are not phones (3, Insightful)

gilesjuk (604902) | more than 3 years ago | (#33382412)

I keep hearing this "useless" argument. It's a tablet device, it's no desktop replacement.

Have you noticed that time and time again that tablets running a full blown desktop OS have failed to sell? Even Bill Gate's estimates for tablet PC sales were completely wrong and sold a tiny fraction of what was estimated.

An iPad can do word processing, it can play games, it can go on the Internet, it can play music, it can play films, there are utility applications, there are music production applications, there are drawing and photo editing applications.

Useless? what use are you say it lacks?

Sure, if your criteria is a DOS prompt, Bash shell, File manager and so on then yes it is useless. It is stripped down and not the full desktop experience, but who says that File managers are fun or that messing around with config files, registry settings or writing scripts is enjoyable?

There is a lot of needless complexity in computing devices. We are moving on from big dusty boxes filled with cooling fans to small more portable devices. Desktop machines are 10% of the market, laptops are popular and tablets will replace laptops in many mobile computing applications.

Re:iPads are not phones (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33382602)

Sure, if your criteria is a DOS prompt, Bash shell, File manager and so on then yes it is useless. It is stripped down and not the full desktop experience, but who says that File managers are fun or that messing around with config files, registry settings or writing scripts is enjoyable?

Aside from the DOS prompt, bash and file managers are available for iOS if you jailbreak, reducing even that criticism to baseless whining

Re:iPads are not phones (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33382944)

By all means, its a *fun* little dohickey for couch potatoes. That does not make it a very usefull as a primary communication device.

Re:iPads are not phones (2, Interesting)

Cicada7 (1051002) | more than 3 years ago | (#33383148)

These are the exact reasons I'm waiting for a comparable Android tablet.

You get the watered down GUIfication element, where anyone can pick it up and it 'just works'

You also get the ability to really dig in via the ADB console or terminal apps.

I'm certainly no majority example, but this seems to me to be 'done right', and I'm excited to buy one for my girlfriend.

Until a good KB dock-type attachment comes out for Android tabs, however, I've got no real use for it - I spend a vast majority of my 'computing' time using the keyboard, to a point that I've gotten a full-size USB keyboard to attach to my laptop which also has a full-size keyboard that just isn't quite as comfortable.

Until I've got that same flexibility with a tablet, it's just not my thing. My girlfriend is of the opinion that iPads are too locked down, and therefore useless, and she's 1/10 the computer nerd that I am.

Re:iPads are not phones (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33389244)

or get a fold out keyboard. nothing like fitting a fullsize querty in a tiny tiny bag
and their relatively inexpensive as well

Re:iPads are not phones (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33383160)

iPad is to Real Computer as Fisherprice train is to Diesel locomotive.

Re:iPads are not phones (3, Informative)

DarthVain (724186) | more than 3 years ago | (#33383176)

I think what the parent is trying to say that it isn't a "Phone".

Sure you could put Skype or I guess now the new Google service, but strictly speaking it isn't a cell phone.

Why not? (2, Insightful)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#33385512)

Sure you could put Skype or I guess now the new Google service, but strictly speaking it isn't a cell phone.

If I am on a cellular network, talking to another person on a phone, why is what I'm talking on not a phone? If it acts like a phone, I can use it like a phone, and the person on the other end can't tell anything - how is that not a phone?

Re:Why not? (2, Informative)

Carewolf (581105) | more than 3 years ago | (#33387038)

how is that not a phone?

Because it lacks the phone parts! It isn't an enlarged iPhone. It is a huge iTouch, it doesn't have the phone hard- or software.

Re:Why not? (1)

IAmGarethAdams (990037) | more than 3 years ago | (#33399466)

So how can you voice call the emergency services from your iPad/iTouch?

Unfair (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#33401770)

For what it's worth, I thought you had the only valid point and yet someone modded up the other guy!

You deserve that point.

Re:iPads are not phones (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33386706)

, but strictly speaking it isn't a cell phone.

Well, strictly speaking, the problem is they can't use a (regular) cell phone.

Re:iPads are not phones (1)

xaxa (988988) | more than 3 years ago | (#33383348)

I keep hearing this "useless" argument. It's a tablet device, it's no desktop replacement.

I used on for the first time yesterday, to do something I thought it would be perfect for: showing my holiday photographs to someone. But the browser (Safari) doesn't cache pages properly! Every time I went to gallery view it had to reload all 400 thumbnails -- annoying and slow on my broadband connection, and presumably terrible on a mobile network...

(For comparison, my HTC Desire had no problems viewing the gallery, it cached all the thumbnails, and worked fine over 3G... in fact, the thumbnails are still cached now.)

Re:iPads are not phones (1)

StuartHankins (1020819) | more than 3 years ago | (#33383682)

Yep, mobile Safari is lacking in many areas.

I think the way you would typically do this on an iPad is to import the pics into your library and show them from the "Photos" app. I find that method extremely fast and easy to use. (*For some people that won't work because you have limited storage.)

Re:iPads are not phones (1)

xaxa (988988) | more than 3 years ago | (#33383948)

Yep, mobile Safari is lacking in many areas.

I was surprised, since it's such an important part of the device.

I think the way you would typically do this on an iPad is to import the pics into your library and show them from the "Photos" app.

Except they were my photos, and my friend's iPad.

Re:iPads are not phones (2, Informative)

saboola (655522) | more than 3 years ago | (#33383498)

You know, on top of all the basics you mentioned, I do a lot of Remote Desktop/VNC/SSH from my iPad. Works great. The device is hardly useless.

Re:iPads are not phones (1)

StuartHankins (1020819) | more than 3 years ago | (#33383688)

Agreed. For SSH I have had good luck with the app "TouchTerm".

Re:iPads are not phones (1)

x2A (858210) | more than 3 years ago | (#33388978)

"The device is hardly useless"

This is true... "use-restricted" would be more accurate.

Re:iPads are not phones (1)

digit1001 (1009191) | more than 3 years ago | (#33383994)

As someone procrastinating reading /. instead of writing a script, I can assure you it's not enjoyable.

Re:iPads are not phones (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33408192)

Bill Gates is the world's worst fortune-teller. Being the guy that said 640KB were enough, sponsored things as Microsoft Bob, thought Internet was more or less a fad, then thought the original AOL-like MSN was going to be a global successs, it is not strange at all he got tablet PC sales wrong. In fact, he wasn' alone: most of so-called experts got it wrong, too.

Anyway, I agree with you: tablets are a completely different sort of gadget, and shouldn't be confused with e-readers, laptops or smartphones. It's like comparing a netbook and an MP3 player: apples and oranges.

Re:iPads are not phones (1)

shemp42 (1406965) | more than 3 years ago | (#33420616)

Come on Steve....you are not fooling anyone. We know its you.

Re:iPads are not phones (0, Troll)

KnightBlade (1074408) | more than 3 years ago | (#33382942)

you so get sarcasm don't you!

Why limit your definition? (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#33383978)

With Skype, iPads are phones. My wife was able to call me from a hotel room from one after her phone had died. If you have the 3G iPad you could easily make calls from anywhere.

Re:Why limit your definition? (1)

IAmGarethAdams (990037) | more than 3 years ago | (#33399478)

Except to call emergency services

Re:Why limit your definition? (1)

Reaperducer (871695) | more than 3 years ago | (#33479100)

Why do you say this? Do you live someplace where the only number for emergency services is three-digits long? Try the phone book.

Re:iPads are not phones (1)

Psaakyrn (838406) | more than 3 years ago | (#33388394)

Get a Samsung Galaxy instead; they're like ipads, except using Android and has phone capabilities!

Re:Uh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33382278)

Do`h!

The sumo wrestlers' reaction (2, Funny)

borfast (752138) | more than 3 years ago | (#33382356)

"Cool, an iPad! I can finally make phone ca.... oh, wait..."

Ha Ha H... Skype? Oh. (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#33384182)

You can make (and receive) calls just fine via Skype, or other voice clients over the 3G network.

Re:Ha Ha H... Skype? Oh. (1)

borfast (752138) | more than 3 years ago | (#33385286)

Cool, I didn't know the iPad could use the mobile network. But in that case - and I'm not simply bashing the iPad, personally I have nothing against it - it just makes it more stupid: if it already connects to the mobile network, why not make phone calls?

The Fingers you are using to type... (0, Redundant)

Drakkenmensch (1255800) | more than 3 years ago | (#33382384)

... are too fat. To order a special dialing wand, smash the iPad with your palm now.

Funny, that. (-1, Offtopic)

dorpus (636554) | more than 3 years ago | (#33382538)

I'm on a new diabetes drug that has completely shut down my appetite -- I've lost 7 pounds in 7 days. I've lost weight so rapidly that I have new wrinkles on my fingertips, as if I've been in the bathtub too long. (I lowered the dose this morning and my appetite is back.)

Re:Funny, that. (1)

davidbrit2 (775091) | more than 3 years ago | (#33382752)

Well I suppose that's one way to keep your blood sugar down.

Best tags ever. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33382694)

I would have to say that this story has my favorite set of tags ever.

So that's who it is! (1)

oldmac31310 (1845668) | more than 3 years ago | (#33382786)

So that's who's been calling my cell number and then hanging up. Fat fingered clods.

Unfortunately it only works once... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33383092)

then the wrestler folds it up to fit it in his pocket.

Re:Unfortunately it only works once... (1)

pecosdave (536896) | more than 3 years ago | (#33383228)

At Sumo scale they should have pockets to accommodate an iPad. I wear carpenter pants and keep my iPhone in the leg pocket, I figure the leg pocket for Sumo size carpenters should have a leg pocket big enough for an iPad.

How do other fat people use phones? (2, Insightful)

edmicman (830206) | more than 3 years ago | (#33383292)

Whaa? How do the millions of other fat people in the world manage to use cell phones?

Re:How do other fat people use phones? (1)

grub (11606) | more than 3 years ago | (#33383706)


Whaa? How do the millions of other fat people in the world manage to use cell phones?

They have all the local restaurants on speed dial.

.

Re:How do other fat people use phones? (2, Interesting)

Kyusaku Natsume (1098) | more than 3 years ago | (#33388784)

The thing is that in Japan you can't talk on the phone onboard most public transport because it is forbidden or impolite but you can send text messages. The predictive text software in the iPad for japanese input method is one of the best implementations around. For sumo wrestlers, sure this would look like a godsend. For them, voice communication will be a nice added bonus, but not a deal breaker.

Little girly hands.. (1)

Paracelcus (151056) | more than 3 years ago | (#33383708)

Their hands aren't "fat" they're just large, I assure you I'm not an obese person but at 6'4" tall and 3' wide at the shoulders my hands are extra large and i wear a size 24 ring.
I cannot use any but the largest buttoned cell phone without a rubber pencil eraser.

The first thing I thought of... (1)

MostAwesomeDude (980382) | more than 3 years ago | (#33383728)

That one commercial where the sumo wrestler uses a voice-activated phone to order pizza.

Did I read that right (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 3 years ago | (#33383912)

Did I read that right? Do they actually call the training facilities "Stables". Talk about adding insult to injury.

Re:Did I read that right (2, Informative)

Ogive17 (691899) | more than 3 years ago | (#33384734)

Yep, they are called stables. And the "rookies" have to wipe the asses of the "vets" since they are usually too fat to reach around themselves.

Conversely... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33384992)

It appears these devices (iPhone/iPod touch) were design for small children and Carnies.

iPad is a UI game changer.

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