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Developer Demands Pirate Bay Not Remove Torrent

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the please-steal-this-software dept.

Piracy 203

An anonymous reader writes "This week TPB got a very unusual e-mail. It was a 'Notice of Ridiculous Activity' from a company that had found one of its apps cracked and listed as a torrent on TPB. The app in question is called Memoires, developed by Coding Robots. Memoires is marketed as the easiest way to keep a journal on your Mac. It costs $29.99 to buy after you've enjoyed a 30-day free trial. That, of course, didn't stop someone from cracking the software and making it available for free as a torrent. Dmitry Chestnykh, founder of Coding Robots, noticed the cracked torrent and decided to download it to see what had been done. After using it, he was upset — not because the cracked version was available, but because the cracker (named Minamoto) had done such a bad job of cracking it. The best section of the e-mail has to be this: 'I demand that you don't remove this torrent, so that people can laugh at Minamoto and CORE skills. However, I also demand the[sic] better crack to be made, so that it doesn't cripple the user experience of my beautiful program.'"

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203 comments

Translation (5, Insightful)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392706)

Developer Demands Pirate Bay Not Remove Torrent

Translation:

Developer Demonstrates Cutting Edge Advertising Techniques

Re:Translation (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33392772)

Probably right, but now I want to buy it just to support that kind of chutzpah (or however you spell that word).

Re:Translation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33392800)

Seconded. And you spelled it right, you meshuggener.

Yet Another Translation (4, Insightful)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392810)

Probably right, but now I want to buy it just to support that kind of chutzpah (or however you spell that word).

Translation:

Probably right, but now I want to prove that you are right by reinforcing his behavior with cash tendered and also he is badass and I wish to make babies with him.

Quite the PR campaign a developer started. Good to see small companies stepping it up on all fronts.

Re:Translation (1)

VolciMaster (821873) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393278)

Probably right, but now I want to buy it just to support that kind of chutzpah (or however you spell that word).

If only you'd posted !AC... I would've friended you just for correctly using a yiddish word!

Re:Translation (2, Insightful)

sconeu (64226) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393328)

Yiddish? You want yiddish? Just be careful not to bring down tzuris upon yourself, ken-an-hora.

Re:Translation (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33393536)

I'd agree, but $30 seems pretty expensive for a glorified notepad.

Re:Translation (1)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392994)

Developer Demonstrates Cutting Edge Advertising Techniques

Well, it's a new twist on the old classic that Microsoft and Adobe have been doing for decades. It's sorta innovative to directly call attention to a pirated source, but calling attention to it because it's (apparently) crappy seems like a bad choice. I see where he's going -- the pirated version sucks so if you want the real deal you gotta come to me -- but then that's basically the old crippleware model, only letting the pirates do the crippling for you.

When you "previewed" Photoshop, you got the full experience. And that un-crippled experience is I think what leads to familiarity and eventually to sales.

Re:Translation (2, Informative)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393226)

I see where he's going -- the pirated version sucks so if you want the real deal you gotta come to me -- but then that's basically the old crippleware model, only letting the pirates do the crippling for you.

When you "previewed" Photoshop, you got the full experience.

But then it also has the 30-day free trial, presumably un-crippled, if you get it from him.

Re:Translation (3, Insightful)

kyrio (1091003) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393238)

What you describe sounds a lot like a 30 day free trail. If only he had one of those...

Re:Translation (2, Insightful)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393862)

What you describe sounds a lot like a 30 day free trail. If only he had one of those...

Not really, because I'm describing cracked pirated software with no time limit because it's pirated.

How many people used pirated versions of Photoshop for years before, because they went professional or otherwise decided they needed to go legit, payed for the license of the software they were intimately familiar with and even dependent on? I know several myself. The odds of that happening in 30 days are much slimmer.

My point is the cracked version itself serves as advertising for the full product. A crappy cracked pirate is a crappy advertisement. Which is probably why he's also saying the crackers should get on making a better crack. So, no, the 30 day trial is a separate issue.

Re:Translation (1)

rwa2 (4391) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393924)

Pretty spot-on... these days it's almost like it's more of a battle for mindshare than walletshare. So it isn't all too bad that advertising is becoming more of a form of entertainment than a mantra or jingle.

Take http://woot.com/ [woot.com] as a merchandising paradigm. Or even the first comment at http://lifehacker.com/5620959/best-place-to-buy-cheap-textbooks-amazon [lifehacker.com] from one of the "losers" of the popular vote.

Re:Translation (4, Insightful)

bhartman34 (886109) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392996)

The funny thing is, the developer got them to take the torrent down by asking them to keep it up/. :)

Re:Translation (1)

jank1887 (815982) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393528)

the man's a genius!

Re:Translation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33393020)

Developer Demonstrates Cutting Edge Advertising Techniques

And it works! I've just bought it, just to reward his humourus e-mail. A good laugh is worth good money.

Re:Translation (1, Insightful)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393054)

I'm not so sure he's bang on with his advertising technique. Who can honestly remember the authors of all the cracks they use? I can think of a handful of old Star Wars games I downloaded cracks for, and I definately remember someone posting their name in the readme file on who to give props for the cracks for, but... nope, drawing a blank now. However, I do remember Lucasarts as their name is plastered all over the place and has a nice splash screen for whenever I launch any of those old things.

So, the whole

I demand that you don't remove this torrent, so that people can laugh at Minamoto.

Well - that's probably not going to happen as much as he'd like. The laughing part I mean.

However, I also demand the[sic] better crack to be made, so that it doesn't cripple the user experience of my beautiful program.

Really, he should just crack his own program then, since he wants to show his mad CORE skills and not cripple the user experience.

The guy will garner a bit of attention in some circles like slashdot, so I mean its not BAD publicity in any sense. I think he sounds like a bit of a tool but it's not like I was rushing out to buy his software anyways. Which, by the way, doesn't strike me as the kind of software someone would want to crack/torrent anyways. A glorified Journal Application? Does the Mac user base actually have that many people who torrent applications? I was under the impression they mostly downloaded music/movies/tv shows. Since they're willing to shell out for an upgrade to their OS so that they can get iTunes working with the latest iPhone, I figured they could pitch in $30 for a digital journal. But then again, I'm not really in with that crowd, they could be crackin' apps and slaughtering goats for all I know.

But my point is that this guy has basically drawn attention to his torrent and since not a whole lot of people are going to want to pay for kicks and giggles, the currently crippled version of his app is going to be the one they use and its going to take Dmitry down with Minamoto

Re:Translation (1)

Nadaka (224565) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393304)

He has cracked it already, its available for only 29.99, but you can test it for free for 30 days.

Re:Translation (1)

jank1887 (815982) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393566)

I remember the case of disks for my C64. Almost all of them were cracked. And almost all of them had a hacker splash screen when you started the game. I'm not sure how old I was before I realized that those weren't part of the original game. I think it was long after the C64 was collecting dust.

Re:Translation (1)

Ironhandx (1762146) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393656)

Razor1911 were the cracks that I used on my KoToR I and II. The games were nearly unplayable without the cracked EXE. I was experiencing crashes left right and center and at that point I already had some experience with similar situations so I said "Hey, I'll go get the cracked .exe and see if it runs better without the DRM." Poof, what do you know? Rock solid games. Rock solid games that will work even on Win7, if you have the cracks installed. Without them it won't even get to the splash screen.

Re:Translation (1)

TheCarp (96830) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393784)

I'm not so sure he's bang on with his advertising technique. Who can honestly remember the authors of all the cracks they use? I can think of a handful of old Star Wars games I downloaded cracks for, and I definately remember someone posting their name in the readme file on who to give props for the cracks for, but... nope, drawing a blank now.

I exclusively run linux you insensitive clod! I havn't downloaded a crack for a program in about 6 years... and the last time I did it was a trojaned copy that my virus scanner didn't catch (and that was the end of my last windows machine).

-Steve

Re:Translation (1)

digitalsushi (137809) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393108)

I, too, can screenshot an email with a fake address and name. And then upload that screenshot to a crappy news site. At what point does it become real?

Re:Translation (4, Insightful)

DreamArcher (1690064) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393364)

Immediately. If you can see something then it's always real. Unless it's on youtube then even if it's real it's fake. However real or fake it's still always gay.

Re:Translation (3, Insightful)

djdavetrouble (442175) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393768)

Somehow this is incredibly deep..

Re:Translation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33393866)

Soon.

Re:Translation (1)

gorzek (647352) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393830)

Well, it's not like TPB would remove the torrent in the first place, so he might as well turn it into a PR win. "Look at the morons who can't even crack my software properly! Point and laugh, everyone! HA-HA!"

That is a savvy businessman.

There was once a day (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33392762)

Where CORE meant something, they used to be known for the highest quality cracks, ones that worked and worked well. Sadly, that day was some time in 2001

Can't remember who said it first (4, Insightful)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392770)

Many people (including myself, hint hint [www.last.fm] ) wish that their work was popular enough to show up on torrent networks.

You aren't anyone unless your stuff is available in a torrent.

Re:Can't remember who said it first (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33392856)

and the vast vast vast vast vast majority of anyone who makes a living from creating software or books or music or games would rather people did NOT take their work without paying them, and frnakly want to see the low lfie criminal fuckbags who run thepiratebay shot in the head.
Trust slashpirate to only ever bother reporting the one in a billion stupid hippies who doesn't object to it.
balanced reporting? Ha, this place is like fox news, for bitter angry hippy thieves.

Re:Can't remember who said it first (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33392918)

and the vast vast vast vast vast majority of anyone who makes a living from creating software or books or music or games would rather people did NOT take their work without paying them, and frnakly want to see the low lfie criminal fuckbags who run thepiratebay shot in the head.

I don't know which failure is more offensive. Your failure to understand economics (remember, Metallica got big because people traded bootleg concert tapes), your failure to understand spelling (self-evident), or your failure to understand justice (the death penalty for enabling copyright infringement? It's not even theft!). Anyway, thanks for being part of the problem.

Re:Can't remember who said it first (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33393010)

(remember, Metallica got big because people traded bootleg concert tapes)

What's a tape?

Tape in a nutshell (4, Informative)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393210)

Compact Cassette [wikipedia.org] is an analog audio storage medium that filled much the same role that MP3 and Vorbis audio files fill now. It was also used for data storage on home computers circa 1980, with various inefficient modulations, before floppy disk drives (the predecessor to USB flash drives) became affordable to home users.

Metallica appreciated trading copies of amateur concert recordings but not copies of the studio CDs.

Re:Tape in a nutshell (3, Insightful)

delinear (991444) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393562)

And yet now, just as back then, the people who trade said copies are the people most passionate about it and who are more likely to buy music [itwire.com] . The argument of the big labels is that there's no reason to buy music when an exact digital copy can be had for free - maybe they underestimate the talent of their artists that they could make people want to reward them regardless, or maybe they underestimate the passion of the fans who are more than happy to buy stuff but also like to share music with their friends and hear new stuff for free, but the end result still seems to be that the ones they are most demonising for downloading are their core customers.

Re:Can't remember who said it first (1)

Jaysyn (203771) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392874)

Make a torrent of it, I'll check it out.

Re:Can't remember who said it first (1)

68030 (215387) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393228)

I'm always looking for good drone and ambient. So agreed; make a torrent, link us.

Re:Can't remember who said it first (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393424)

Will do!

Re:Can't remember who said it first (4, Informative)

Abstrackt (609015) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392882)

Many people (including myself, hint hint [www.last.fm] ) wish that their work was popular enough to show up on torrent networks.

You aren't anyone unless your stuff is available in a torrent.

I see your music is available for download on last.fm but I couldn't find you on Jamendo [jamendo.com] . If you want exposure I highly recommend setting up an account there. As a bonus, you can also take donations if people like your music.

Re:Can't remember who said it first (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393614)

Thanks for the suggestion! I'll do that sometime this weekend. I've been meaning to get myself on Pandora as well, so I'll probably do that at the same time.

Re:Can't remember who said it first (5, Funny)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393762)

I also noticed that he wasn't on Shaboogie, Underbeats, Padoodle, Pocketgravy, Wikiloafer, Rumpelstiltstunes, first.am, BassPirates, or even DrumSmugglers.

Re:Can't remember who said it first (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33393000)

Maybe you'd be more popular if you'd take your ugly mug off of your last.fm page and then you'd only have to learn how to make up a track that didn't sound like someone from a Kraftwerk-wannabe band in a drunken stupor being forced to play a 20 dollar keyboard from Walmart.

In other words: Your music sucks and you're ugly.

Re:Can't remember who said it first (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393478)

Only one part of your post I want to respond to, troll:

being forced to play a 20 dollar keyboard from Walmart.

I use a legit copy of Reason 4.0.1 for software (gonna get Reason 5 soon soon soon) and an M-Audio Axiom 25 for my MIDI controller. I also use a set of Audio Technia ATH-AD700s and a Sony MDR-7506 for creating my stuff.

Hardly Walmart quality.

Re:Can't remember who said it first (1)

Max Romantschuk (132276) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393024)

Can I get you on Spotify? It's just so darn handy I can't be bothered with much else these days... :D

Re:Can't remember who said it first (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393654)

Sure, I'll sign up on there too. Screw it, I'll just dedicate a day to signing up for various streaming services.

My primary goal is to one day get my stuff on the regular playlist on bluemars.org...that would be so freakin' amazing.

Re:Can't remember who said it first (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33393150)

You can find a friend with a what.cd account, too.

Re:Can't remember who said it first (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33393232)

Hey look guys! It's Pojut, trolling for hits to one of his online services again. If its not his crappy blog its his last.fm page.

You aren't anyone unless your stuff is available in a torrent.

I guess you aren't anyone then?

Re:Can't remember who said it first (1)

Abstrackt (609015) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393382)

Hey look guys! It's Pojut, trolling for hits to one of his online services again. If its not his crappy blog its his last.fm page.

It's definitely a bit of self-advertising but the post was also on-topic. Reading through some (I did not read more than a page) of his older posts the only other advertising I see is in his sig. Hell, if I didn't have to deal with NDAs I'd probably mention my services every now and then too.

Re:Can't remember who said it first (1)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393288)

Yo, dawg, we heard you like bein' popular, so we put yo music in a torrent so you can populate the popular opinions of the populus!

Publicity (0, Redundant)

Gi0 (773404) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392820)

Someone's playing the publicity card pretty damn good.

Better crack? (1)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392822)

I also demand the[sic] better crack to be made, so that it doesn't cripple the user experience of my beautiful program.

I'm sure someone will get right on that...

Seriously... (3, Insightful)

mdm-adph (1030332) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392826)

why _would_ someone include an .exe file for a cracked Mac program? :\

Re:Seriously... (4, Funny)

BarryJacobsen (526926) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392930)

why _would_ someone include an .exe file for a cracked Mac program? :\

So the windows users who clearly didn't have enough intelligence to recognize they were downloading a mac program can be infected with the same virus/malware that the actual crack is infected with.

Re:Seriously... (1)

mdm-adph (1030332) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393096)

You know, considering the amount of people who download this crap just to "have the warez" on their computers, regardless of what it does, you're probably not far from the truth.

Re:Seriously... (4, Interesting)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392932)

Lazy scene groups do this all the time. And they post installation instructions that indicate that they know nothing about *nix systems (and that they assume that "everyone" has a spare Wintel machine available for running their keygen/crack). A favorite of mine was some application that included a file with the extension .bat (non-executable of course) that contained a one-liner along the lines of "echo "127.0.0.1 activation.developer.com" >> /etc/hosts" inside it and the instructions stated that the user should run this "program" by pressing Win-R and typing in the path to the file...

Re:Seriously... (1)

mdm-adph (1030332) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393142)

I'm assuming that, if they would even post about "knowing nothing about *nix systems," they weren't the ones to actually crack the program, aye? Though, doesn't stop them from taking credit for it?

Re:Seriously... (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393554)

(and that they assume that "everyone" has a spare Wintel machine available for running their keygen/crack).

Either that or they've tested the crack on Wine. A program running in Wine on an x86 CPU is no more "non-native" than a KDE program on your GNOME desktop.

Re:Seriously... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33393676)

Plus if you run your obvious virus on Wine, you can rm -rf ~/.wine-with-viruses when you're done (better than hoping your antivirus software works).

Re:Seriously... (1)

eleuthero (812560) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392936)

malware to infect the pc you use to run it?

Re:Seriously... (1)

halfaperson (1885704) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392940)

As a practical joke?

Re:Seriously... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33392972)

Because the cracker is sure that anyone who has a Mac also has Windows installed to do work.

Re:Seriously... (2, Informative)

cHiphead (17854) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393630)

Windows is for the games.

Re:Seriously... (1)

BobMcD (601576) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393040)

why _would_ someone include an .exe file for a cracked Mac program? :\

Well, why wouldn't one do so? Even the developer of the program apparently used this exe to evaluate the harm the crack does to his software. I understand it is an affront to Mac users, but I don't think the rest of us are as emotionally attached.

Hats off (1)

jdgeorge (18767) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392878)

The pride in his work is admirable. I always appreciate a developer who's concerned about his user experience. This characteristic is, to me, Steve Jobs' most admirable trait (though I think marketing geeks must appreciate his gift for generating interest in his products.) This guy is following Jobs' finest example here.

Re:Hats off (1, Funny)

BobMcD (601576) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392964)

The pride in his work is admirable. I always appreciate a developer who's concerned about his user experience. This characteristic is, to me, Steve Jobs' most admirable trait (though I think marketing geeks must appreciate his gift for generating interest in his products.) This guy is following Jobs' finest example here.

I'm left to wonder how he 'discovered' it in the first place...

A few months ago Dmitry Chestnykh, the founder of Coding Robots and copyright holder of Mémoires, discovered that his program – like many others – was being shared via The Pirate Bay.

So while he was looking for a cracked Photoshop, for example, he was amazed to see his own stuff up there? It's rather like a priest complaining about poor service from a prostitute, isn't it?

Re:Hats off (4, Insightful)

BradleyUffner (103496) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393048)

The pride in his work is admirable. I always appreciate a developer who's concerned about his user experience. This characteristic is, to me, Steve Jobs' most admirable trait (though I think marketing geeks must appreciate his gift for generating interest in his products.) This guy is following Jobs' finest example here.

I'm left to wonder how he 'discovered' it in the first place...

A few months ago Dmitry Chestnykh, the founder of Coding Robots and copyright holder of Mémoires, discovered that his program – like many others – was being shared via The Pirate Bay.

So while he was looking for a cracked Photoshop, for example, he was amazed to see his own stuff up there? It's rather like a priest complaining about poor service from a prostitute, isn't it?

I do google searches for my name and the names of the program I write all the time. It seems logical to me that he saw his program listed on pirate bay while doing something similar.

Re:Hats off (2, Informative)

Anonymous Showered (1443719) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393078)

http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=coding+robots+memoires+torrent [google.ca]

TPB is known to be the largest (pirated) tracker in the world. He was curious to see if his program was listed. As a software developer myself, I've done searches on popular trackers too for my software.

Re:Hats off (0, Troll)

BobMcD (601576) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393144)

And as anyone aware of TPB and what it does, I'll wager you've acquired content from it, as well.

Re:Hats off (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33393252)

As someone who is contributing to a discussion about TPB, I'll wager that you have also acquired "content" from it. And by "content" I mean goat porn.

Re:Hats off (1)

BobMcD (601576) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393602)

Only because you recommended it, friend. Though I can't say what it is you find so appealing...

Re:Hats off (1)

kevinNCSU (1531307) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393302)

I'm not sure I follow your logic, TPB is pretty well known and talked about in news stories and the like. You don't have to download illegal content to know about it. This is an especially ludicrous claim if someone works in the tech industry and thus stays up on tech news. I would be genuinely surprised if there was a software developer out there who had not heard of them, but I would not be surprised if there are software developers who would not partake based on their personal principles. I know some that would refuse to install a copy of Ms Office on two of their own home machines because you're supposed to get a new version for each. They certainly aren't going to download cracked programs off a torrent. That doesn't mean they are just blissfully unaware that TPB exists, they just don't have the same beliefs as you.

Re:Hats off (1)

BobMcD (601576) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393590)

You don't genuinely know what my beliefs are, do you? What's your source?

I have indeed used it. I used it just the other week to get Adywan's cut of Star Wars (which was excellent, by the way.) I do, however, know that my use of it is rare enough that the observation I made above is valid enough for conversation on slashdot.

Have a nice day!

Re:Hats off (1)

kevinNCSU (1531307) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393972)

You don't genuinely know what my beliefs are, do you? What's your source?

Given:

  1. Anyone aware of TPB has downloaded Content from it (from your post)
  2. You Are discussing TPB (your posts)
  3. There exists a set of people whose 'beliefs' keep them from downloading content from TPB (from first hand knowledge)

You are aware about TPB: Because of 2

You have downloaded from TPB: Using Rule 1 and the above

You do not hold the same exact beliefs as the set described in 3: The beliefs of this group by definition prohibits downloading content from TPB.

---------

I have indeed used it. I used it just the other week to get Adywan's cut of Star Wars (which was excellent, by the way.) I do, however, know that my use of it is rare enough that the observation I made above is valid enough for conversation on slashdot.

I don't understand how you using it rarely makes claiming that "anyone who knows it exists uses it" accurate enough for even conversation scratched into the stall of a public restroom.

Re:Hats off (1)

delinear (991444) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393678)

Hell, you don't even need to be in the industry. They're commonly referenced online, I've seen the name crop up in non-technical forums. Several times they've actually made the news offline and they're commonly talked about in online news sources (I see them mentioned at the BBC and Google news quite a lot), both with charges and raids against them and, latterly, with their political ambitions. They sell merchandise, too, so you don't even need to be a big follower of news or politics to have come across them. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of non-technical internet users, and even a good few non-internet users were aware of them.

Re:Hats off (0, Troll)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393692)

Even better, don't install any Microshack Offass. Instal Broken Offit dot Orgy instead.

Re:Hats off (1)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393984)

Sorry, anybody that would allow their software to be released with a green plus icon for a button that shrinks a window, and has the trash can share functionality between ejecting a disk and deleting files is definitly NOT showing pride in his work.

Taking it in Stride (3, Interesting)

MeatyDemon (1887966) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392890)

At least hes taking it in stride and realizing that you can't fully protect your software. Its better than trying to sue them for millions and looking like an ass.

Re:Taking it in Stride (1)

Abstrackt (609015) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392938)

At least hes taking it in stride and realizing that you can't fully protect your software. Its better than trying to sue them for millions and looking like an ass.

I'm pretty sure he came up with this idea in a fit of rage. He not only created successful free advertising for himself but he managed to make a fool of the person who cracked his software.

Re:Taking it in Stride (2)

MozeeToby (1163751) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393052)

Many different angles, but all of them are full of win.

A) Embarrass the writer of the crack
B) Point out that the crack doesn't work as well as the real thing
C) Get your product's name out there
D) Show the people who care about this kind of thing that you're a 'cool guy'
E) Not waste time and effort trying to get the crack removed.

Did I miss anything?

Re:Taking it in Stride (4, Informative)

Abstrackt (609015) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393216)

Did I miss anything?

F) Profit!

cakofony (3, Insightful)

cakofony (1432911) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392952)

This man just made my day. I'm glad to see he realizes that you can't stop people from moving around data, and he is willing to work with, not against it, in true hacker spirit.

Re:cakofony (1, Insightful)

caywen (942955) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393310)

You can't stop people from moving around matter, either. Doesn't mean stealing stuff from best buy is ok, or that best buy should work with them.

Re:cakofony (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393402)

Matter is harder to copy, whereas if you’re trying to sell data a new copy is made every time someone sees it.

Just imagine how different car sales would be if everyone who looked at your cars instantly had one of their own. The whole sales model would change – you’d have to show them only a tiny part of the car, or a car with no engine, or a car with a hidden self-destruct feature...

Re:cakofony (1)

cakofony (1432911) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393420)

In this case, you're moving something which doesn't have a physical form. The best buy analogy only works if you're looking at items in the store, and then building yourself a near-exact replication.

moir not more, right? (1)

ilo.v (1445373) | more than 3 years ago | (#33392998)

Isn't it "Mémoires" not memories?

Bad idea? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33393002)

This may destroy any future copyright case he could have in a court of law.

A German court (for example) has ruled that a small developer who advertised his products as "DRM free" accepts/encourages piracy and as such has much less options when fighting copyright violations.

Re:Bad idea? (1)

Shoe Puppet (1557239) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393918)

A German court (for example) has ruled that a small developer who advertised his products as "DRM free" accepts/encourages piracy and as such has much less options when fighting copyright violations.

Source?

Then release it (1)

gknoy (899301) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393012)

I also demand the[sic] better crack to be made, so that it doesn't cripple the user experience of my beautiful program.

As the software developer, isn't he in a position to release a (by definition) perfect "crack" for it?

Re:Then release it (1)

tivoKlr (659818) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393100)

It's been released all along in the form of paying for the sw and receiving then entering the activation key. Application cracked (for you).

Duh.

Re:Then release it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33393284)

It's been released all along in the form of paying for the sw and receiving then entering the activation key. Application cracked (for you).

but it doesn't say cracked by RAZOR1911 when I crack it.

How do I know its working?

Re:Then release it (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393464)

Um, does this answer your question:

It's a fucking SINGLE BOOLEAN SWITCH that validates the license, it doesn't require any Application Enhancer tricks or whatever.

Ok, ok, so he didn’t quite release a crack, but it’s practically a road-map.

Re:Then release it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33393774)

I also demand the[sic] better crack to be made, so that it doesn't cripple the user experience of my beautiful program.

As the software developer, isn't he in a position to release a (by definition) perfect "crack" for it?

Well, he is in it for the money, and wants as many people to buy it as possible, so he's not sanctioning cracked versions.

But he recognizes, with rare insight, that the people who just won't pay aren't hurting him any. (Whether they don't use it at all, use a lousy crack, or use a fully functional crack, he still gets the exact same $0.) So he figures they might as well use a fully functional crack.

FWIW, he actually hints at how to make a better crack in TFA:

"... It’s a fucking SINGLE BOOLEAN SWITCH that validates the license, it doesn’t require any Application Enhancer tricks or whatever.”

I think he honestly is more annoyed with the stupidity of the cracker than the fact that people are cracking it in the first place.

Despite the summary's deepest wishes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33393028)

...the program in question is not called "Memories". If you RTFA, it is clearly called "Mémoires".

burden of proof (3, Insightful)

digitalsushi (137809) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393188)

The ORIGINAL developer has posted more info here! [digitalsushi.com]

i mean, doesnt anyone else agree with me this is pretty crappy journalism?

Re:burden of proof (1)

jiteo (964572) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393330)

I wish I could mod you up. The Pirate Bay hasn't received anything. All we have a screenshot of someone filling in their contact form. Who was filling it and whether or not it was ever sent will remain unknown until The Pirate Bay confirm that they received it, and the real Dmitry Chestnykh from Coding Robots confirms that he actually sent it. Hasn't anyone actually bothered to at least contact them and ask?

Re:burden of proof (1)

delinear (991444) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393794)

I thought for a second that the Captcha read "fictions", which would have been eerily apt to your point - unless of course that turned out to be faked too :)

Why? (1)

naturaverl (628952) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393220)

Heh. He *demands* a better crack to be made. Why doesn't the developer just build a freeware version and post the torrent to that?
Oh yeah... That route wouldn't have gotten all the free advertising.

Re:Why? (1)

Spad (470073) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393320)

I think the principle is "If you're going to crack my software, at least have a decency to do it properly, in a way that doesn't otherwise affect the functionality".

After all, you don't want people thinking your software is buggy and unstable just because someone can't write a decent crack for it.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33393352)

For humor-impaired douche bags like you: it's called SATIRE.

a bona fide ethical businessperson? (1)

australopithecus (215774) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393476)

how interesting: that a demand to maintain the efficacy of an object created by man must be framed as a ridiculous idea.

at the heart of it, seems like the guy just wants to maintain integrity of an idea.

Gotta love these /. advertisements (3, Insightful)

zill (1690130) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393616)

1. Develop app
2. Crack the app then distribute it
3. Send hilarious email to pirate bay
4. ???
5. PROFIT!!

Meh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33393620)

Still a Mac program (though maybe keeping a journal in 2010 is considered acceptable activity to the Starbucks hipsters who own iMacs?). Too bad it wasn't made for a useful OS.

Original article and insightful discussions (2, Informative)

troll8901 (1397145) | more than 3 years ago | (#33393710)

TFA didn't link to the original Reddit article. The original one is here [reddit.com] .

And that thread's comments have multiple serious discussions going on.

  1. Caring / not caring about people pirating your work, and the emotions you go through.
  2. How much of that are/are not lost sales, and how many of them wouldn't have bought the software anyway.
  3. The practicality of spending time coding copy protection/checking, and the returns, and how much of them pisses off users.
  4. That it's better to spend time developing features that paying users want instead.

And the discussions rival the quality found in Slashdot.

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