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Google Wave To Live On As 'Wave In a Box'

timothy posted about 4 years ago | from the snl-sketch-comes-to-mind dept.

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snydeq writes "Google Wave will morph into an application bundle for real-time collaboration, according to a blog post by Google Wave engineer Alex North. 'We will expand upon the 200K lines of code we've already open sourced (detailed at waveprotocol.org) to flesh out the existing example Wave server and Web client into a more complete application or "Wave in a Box,"' North said, adding that the future of the recently flat-lined Google service will be 'defined by your contributions. We hope this project will help the Wave developer community continue to grow and evolve,' he said."

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f1rst g0ats3 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33472532)

http://goatse.fr/ [goatse.fr]

mod parent up (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33473166)

mod parent up

How many D's? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33472550)

Claims it got the idea from that Schrödinger fellow.

It's my wave in a box! (5, Funny)

beanball75 (126064) | about 4 years ago | (#33472564)

To all the fellas out there with ladies to impress, it's easy to do just follow these steps:

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your wave in that box
3. Make her open the box

Re:It's my wave in a box! (0, Redundant)

Locutus (9039) | about 4 years ago | (#33472580)

ya beat me to it. lol

LoB

Re:It's my wave in a box! (1)

KingAlanI (1270538) | about 4 years ago | (#33473302)

you also beat me to it.
I'll add a comment regarding a hypothetical Google employee singing this while drunk...and we all know how well singing while drunk works [I'll admit it has worked out quite well for Ke$ha's managers, though.]

Re:It's my wave in a box! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33472642)

Not gonna give you a fancy car,

Girl ya gotta know you're mah shining star,

Not gonna give you a house in the hills,

A girl like you needs somethin' real, ...

Re:It's my wave in a box! (1)

Ambvai (1106941) | about 4 years ago | (#33472644)

I've run into that, but subverted... he actually taped the box to his pants and there was an actual gift inside...

Re:It's my wave in a box! (1)

dangitman (862676) | about 4 years ago | (#33473056)

I've run into that, but subverted... he actually taped the box to his pants and there was an actual gift inside...

Where by "actual gift," you mean his dick, right?

Re:It's my wave in a box! (-1, Redundant)

purpleraison (1042004) | about 4 years ago | (#33472766)

LOL!!! Friggin hi-larious!... if you saw the SNL Justin Timberlake skit.

Thanks for a truly funny post.

***ps whoever marked you down as 'redundant' is a fucking douche-licker!

Re:It's my wave in a box! (1)

davester666 (731373) | about 4 years ago | (#33472966)

4. Be ready to perform the Heimlich maneuver on her if she swallows the ring!

Re:It's my wave in a box! (1)

masmullin (1479239) | about 4 years ago | (#33473148)

since the ring is secured tightly to the base of the shaft of the wave; if she manages to get all the way down to the ring you know you have a keeper..

Re:It's my wave in a box! (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33473648)

At which point she finds a dead wave because in your rush you forgot that was actually the box you where planning to test the absurdity of QM with. Guess what? QM wasent so absurd after all, not that youll care.

          --- Katze Schrödinger

Re:It's my wave in a box! (1)

mcneely.mike (927221) | about 4 years ago | (#33477358)

Let me fix that for you...

1. Lick box

2. Let her open the box

3. Put your 'wave' in that box

Wave in a box? (4, Funny)

sznupi (719324) | about 4 years ago | (#33472622)

An interesting workaround of the claims that it failed - now at least it's both alive and dead until we look. And how knows what that constant peeking might turn out in the long run...

Re:Wave in a box? (1)

martin-boundary (547041) | about 4 years ago | (#33473214)

That's only in the Schroedinger picture though. In the Heisenberg picture, Google also has a Matrix in a box, which I personally prefer because it dispenses blue and red M&Ms every time I open it.

Re:Wave in a box? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33555472)

kinda like Schrödinger's cat

Or, as Carlos Mencia would Say (-1, Troll)

williamyf (227051) | about 4 years ago | (#33472640)

Nigger in a box!

Please mod funny or Offtopic as you wish.

Stick a fork in it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33472664)

It's dead, Jim.

Just add water... (1)

gmuslera (3436) | about 4 years ago | (#33472678)

...lots of water, and then shake it.

Economy behind wave? (3, Insightful)

drolli (522659) | about 4 years ago | (#33472702)

I guess google stopped it because they could not figure out how to allocate the amount of server infractructure needed and still earn money while keeping the service free. I actually would think that wave would reduce googles advertisement income because it would grow on the cost of other services while it has much harder demands on the computation power assigned to it than e.g. google mail. Its ok if an email takes a minute, but in the wave concept an minute would be long. With mail its even if it takes 20 Minutes a a busy time of the year.

Re:Economy behind wave? (1)

kyuubi (1355069) | about 4 years ago | (#33473080)

Then how do you explain google chat? and google voice?

Re:Economy behind wave? (3, Interesting)

drolli (522659) | about 4 years ago | (#33473500)

Please contrast: google chat: i dont think much data is transported google voice: a moderate amount of data has to be relayed (1 hour of talking may be less than 10MB) - and not much storage at google is required (at least thats what i hope) google wave: if user a in Australia, user b in Europe and User c in America use the same wave, and keep it open over weeks in the expectation that, as soon as they sit down the system will react instantaneously, it will impose strong requirements on the database. If 100 Million users keep 20 waves requiring several MBytes open (remember what google suggested you do with it), then you may run into problem when you try to finance that on a free basis (which they had to do to circumvent the chicken-egg problem).

Re:Economy behind wave? (2, Interesting)

zuperduperman (1206922) | about 4 years ago | (#33478926)

Both chat and voice are relatively easy on CPU and servers generally.

Wave uses a fascinating Operational Transform [codecommit.com] algorithm which verges on aspects of AI to keep all clients in sync. It's a really fascinating approach but I can see that it is far more intensive for servers than otherwise.

Having said that, I think if Wave had even the tiniest hope of being successful Google would have kept it going. The cost of servers is nothing to Google compared to that of having dozens of their phd's and probably hundreds of other staff occupied with it while they could be working on, for eg: Google Me.

Re:Economy behind wave? (1)

bhcompy (1877290) | about 4 years ago | (#33473296)

Or they could have bundled it up and sold server software with varying degrees of support like other companies that sell free things(you know, linux distros, open source software, etc). There are other collaboration suites out there and businesses want to keep high security data off the public network, so I found it odd that they didn't bundle it up in the first place like the competitors(I guess they released some code, but not all of it apparently?).

Google's Wave product was dead on arrival! (2, Insightful)

bogaboga (793279) | about 4 years ago | (#33472722)

And here's why I say so:

First, they (Google), failed or refused to integrate Gmail capabilities with Google Wave! In other words, I could not send an email from within the Google Wave interface! What reasoning was behind that?

Second, I just do not understand the logic behind their modus operandi of having usage by invite only or even suspending [new] registrations as was the case with Grand Central.

This way of doing things is just a non starter in my opinion.

Re:Google's Wave product was dead on arrival! (2, Interesting)

istartedi (132515) | about 4 years ago | (#33472778)

I just do not understand the logic behind their modus operandi of having usage by invite only

I think they thought that it would create buzz like Gmail did. Gmail was invite only too when it started. I think their failure was in not realizing "special invite to join Google's email" was far more enticing than "special invite to join Google's experimental thingamabob".

Of course there were other problems with Wave too. It looked like it skipped the "do one thing well" stage and went straight to bloatware.

Re:Google's Wave product was dead on arrival! (4, Interesting)

Dr_Barnowl (709838) | about 4 years ago | (#33473374)

Communications technologies depend on network effects. Gmail succeeded, despite restricting the number of subscribers, because it already had a vast network of email users to interact with. Mobile phones worked because they interacted with the existing phone system.

Wave was restricted to communicating with Wave. Getting the people you wanted to use it to sign up, grok it, then use it, was too much of an obstacle.

Re:Google's Wave product was dead on arrival! (1)

zuperduperman (1206922) | about 4 years ago | (#33478940)

I think they thought that it would create buzz like Gmail did.

I remember it having huge buzz - people were desperate for invites. The problem was that when the invite arrived it was a huge let down - you just sat there looking at a blank screen thinking, "Umm, what do I do now?". With no other friends and no integration with email you were basically dead in the water. Google managed it incredibly badly. For example, there was a thriving community of public waves that anybody could look at - but to find them you had to type in some cryptic text in the search box. Why these weren't made front and center for new users I have no idea - it was the one useful thing you could do upon activating your invite.

Re:Google's Wave product was dead on arrival! (1, Troll)

LostCluster (625375) | about 4 years ago | (#33473046)

It was a beta test, and they couldn't find out a way to make it a viable service so they've open sourced the code and basically are saying "You want it? You host it. We'll sell you the server." This was also their solution to intranets that aren't open to letting GoogleBot tell the world about what it finds.

Re:Google's Wave product was dead on arrival! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33473158)

I just do not understand the logic behind their modus operandi of having usage by invite only

Dude, it's like you've never even heard of viral marketing - see #9 http://www.google.com/googlegulp/faq.html#9

Re:Google's Wave product was dead on arrival! (1)

tendays (890391) | about 4 years ago | (#33473386)

You're totally right on the missing bridge to email, but the invite system is good in that it permits controlling the load on the system, by only giving as many invites as the system can handle. If they had opened it to everybody right away, it would have been *really* unusable due to overload. (And also makes people with an invite feel special and therefore want to use the system)

It's something different than an email replacement (3, Insightful)

YA_Python_dev (885173) | about 4 years ago | (#33473406)

One thing that most people didn't get about Wave is that its mayor strength is providing an environment where humans and computers can easily communicate and work together.

Don't think about Wave as a super-email or super-chat or super-wiki, although it's a bit of all this, think of an interface that can be populated with custom robots that give to you and your coworkers easy real-time collaborative access to backends specific for your the work you're doing.

Like a form in a web site, that's highly interactive and can be accessed collaboratively by many people at once.

It had huge potential, but unfortunately very few people "got it".

Re:It's something different than an email replacem (1)

insufflate10mg (1711356) | about 4 years ago | (#33474400)

Mod this man up.

Re:It's something different than an email replacem (1)

gilgongo (57446) | about 4 years ago | (#33474504)

"Like a form in a web site, that's highly interactive and can be accessed collaboratively by many people at once."

I can't see what problem that actually solves, unless the writers/contributors have control over when others can write/contribute to the wave. I mean, how often have you sat down to write an email, or a document, or make a PPT presentation and said to yourself "You know, it would be really cool if my colleagues could see me putting this together and could then jump in at any time and edit or discuss what I'm writing."

To me, that would be immensely annoying to the point of utter lunacy.

"In this paper, I shall show how a perpetual motion machine can be assembled from simple household items and ..."

"BZZT! Dude! You're full of shit!"

"Look, let me finish this please - you've not read the...."

"Dave - what? Are you seriously going to try to convince me that you can defy the laws of physics?"

"Oh FFS Frank, if I wanted to put commas all over the place, I would OK! Just stop editing my damn paper before I'm finished with it OK!!!!! Huh?? What has that video got anything to do with this??!!" ... and so on.

Re:It's something different than an email replacem (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33474602)

In many ways it was an experiment into seeing what people would do with it. Throw out this big platform and see what happens. They have already implemented the simultaneous writing stuff into Google Docs. I could see many of these small services sometime combining into something bigger (perhaps the oft rumored social thing).

Re:It's something different than an email replacem (1)

Ash-Fox (726320) | about 4 years ago | (#33475004)

One thing that most people didn't get about Wave is that its mayor strength is providing an environment where humans and computers can easily communicate and work together.

I could already easily do that with other solutions like google docs, zimbra, etherpad etc. Google Wave was /worse/ for it because it didn't have importable, exportable formats, cumbersome modifications etc. I tried to use it for development, event planning, instant messaging - It didn't seem as good as the existing solutions I had to do that.

This is ignoring all the bugs mind you, like vast histories on waves that lead to it eating loads of ram or locking up the browser.

It had huge potential, but unfortunately very few people "got it".

Feel free to explain the potential to me when in my case, it was taking more time for less work. It's not like I didn't try.

Re:Google's Wave product was dead on arrival! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33476294)

Well, I can tell you what MS is doing in this department...they've imposed a new system, known as 'Academic Workspace', on people in the Toronto District School Board (largest or second largest in North America?). It is the most gawd-awful, slow, Silverlight crap, with 'spinning icons' (ohhh, ahhh, say the computer illiterate, corrupt administrators, board 'decision makers', etc.). Supposedly, the Toronto District School Board will be going 'paperless' (yep, those 'forward looking decision makers...') by Dec. 2010, because of this junk. And windoze only, of course, to keep those education tax dollars flowing into MS coffers (Mac/linux users? Too bad. Yes, discrimination is alive and well in the TDSB). Meanwhile, schools close, swimming pools close, no textbooks for many students/courses, falling apart facilities, overloaded classrooms, a 10 to 1 student to computer ratio (one of the worst in developed countries), etc., et cetera., but those corrupt decision makers will ensure that millions continue to flow to M$. By the way, did I mention that it is sloooooooooooooow.
Try it out at (shake your head and laugh if you are a techie, shake your head and cry if you are an educator/parent/student):

http://aw.tdsb.on.ca

And good luck on trying to find out how much is flowing to MS...secret contracts, non-disclosure, etc. Even though it's public tax money?

Meanwhile, of course, there have been much, MUCH better systems doing the same thing for years. Example:
http://www3.sd73.bc.ca/content/open-source-education

The only reason wave should be used... (4, Interesting)

Idiomatick (976696) | about 4 years ago | (#33472732)

Small OSS projects. It replaces irc, todo lists, websites, messenger systems....... If you've ever taken part in a small oss project you'll know the spread out mess I'm talking about.

Wave COULD fix that and have everything combined. Integrate a bunch of features that are needed... like something to do difs and small file/code uploads. I'm sure depending on the project you could think of more things. It could do the job very well without much effort on the coder's part.

Re:The only reason wave should be used... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33472880)

If you've ever taken part in a small oss project you'll know the spread out mess I'm talking about. Wave COULD fix that and have everything combined

You can't fix an utter lack of discipline with software.
Seriously, have a little WWJDifhewereasoftwaredeveloper moment and write some formal documentation.

You're welcome,
  - Former United States Marine Sys Admin

Re:The only reason wave should be used... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33474792)

Fuck you!

Re:The only reason wave should be used... (4, Interesting)

JimWise (1804930) | about 4 years ago | (#33472914)

I think there are MANY uses for Google Wave, but that is part of its problem. They are all very small, niche uses, which makes it hard to give a succinct description of it to someone and tell them how it could be relevant and useful to them. Also, since Wave is for coordinating with others it doesn't help to just persuade one person to try checking it out. They have to see a use for it and convince all the others on their project to give it an honest try too.

With GMail, the brand new Google Phone, etc, I just had to see that it could possibly be useful for me and try it out on my own. If it works for me, then great, I can just go ahead and use it. I can tell friends how useful they are, and since they are fairly single purpose tools they are easy to describe and simple for others to figure out if they are likely to be useful for them or not. Google Wave is much more amorphous.

Most of my friends are fairly geeky (yes, I know, quite a shocker for a slashdotter.) Back in March we started planning a group trip to Washington D.C.. We only had three weeks to plan (a friend's cousin was getting married out there and he mentioned to the rest of us just weeks in advance about it and in passing asked if any of us would like to take some days off to join in and do some sight-seeing.) Since we had limited time and couldn't all get together easily to plan we put Wave to great use. We were able to share links to points of interest, the metro system, possible places to stay; we created a roughed out itinerary that we could modify and you could click on each entry and it would show the location on the map so we could see what locations were in the vicinity to try to reduce unnecessary traveling back and forth, we put up a couple of polls for voting on what were the most and least desired to see by the group as we had to weed down a bit on what all we could do on our five day trip, and at the end of the trip we were able to share our photos with eachother. Wave allowed us to comment during lunch breaks and after work as time allowed, so even though we were unable to meet up in person or even on-line at the same time we could have group discussions about what we would like to see and do. Our trip went VERY smoothly and with the pre-planning we were able to pack in a LOT more than we ever could have otherwise on a trip like that.

My older sister just started up a new on-line magazine. She wanted to coordinate with others to figure out what format the magazine should take, be able to share and group edit the articles and layouts, have discussions about all of the physical, legal, IT logistics of getting the magazine started with the others involved, and asked me if I knew of something that could help them do all of that. I suggested Google Wave, and although the bulk of the people involved were from an English/Arts background they jumped in and found Wave to be indispensable since they all have "other" jobs while they are getting this off the ground so they do not have matching schedules or locations.

Wave can definitely start to get too unwieldy for large groups or very long running projects, so I agree with the "small projects" part, but I would definitely remove the "OSS" part.

Re:The only reason wave should be used... (1)

hey! (33014) | about 4 years ago | (#33475160)

I've been in this business long enough to remember trying to explain email to people; or the web, or blogging, or wikis. A few people just jumped on the bandwagon because these were the new things, but a lot of people could not see the point. Why use a computer and a network and all that newfangled stuff just to send a note? Of course it helps if you can say something like "the marginal cost of sending a note will be zero," but then people looked at you like you were nuts. We pay good money to send letters or make phone calls, how could the network provider afford to let us send as much data as will fit without charging us per minute or page or something?

What it boils down to is that most people are muddling through without the new wonder technology. They won't see the tech as valuable until they see that other people are using it to muddle through more successfully than they are. Most people don't want change for change's sake, which is reasonable enough, but they also tend to be blind to change until it is well under way.

It's the same thing that happens when you develop any computer application, only here we're talking about a *class of applications*. Most users and stakeholders don't have much capacity for imagination when it comes to abstract thought. They don't really have a clear idea of what they want or don't want until they start using them. A new technology has got to get a critical mass which makes people sit up and think, "I'm missing something important here." Sometimes that doesn't happen, and an idea has to go back on the shelf until somebody comes up with it again in a new implementation.

Re:The only reason wave should be used... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33473726)

Eh, i used it for a while as an Instant Messenger service, it really was pretty good at that... up until a point.
And that point is, yes, you guessed it, the point where Wave turns 80 years old and goes sooo ssslllooowww.
If they had the ability to archive Wave contents in the Wave data, that would be really nice.

It makes for a great IM, until multi-convos arrive and people start inserting messages all over the place. Worse because the entire page shifts regardless.
It would have been better if replies above and below your current viewport were hidden behind an expansion arrow / box / whatever.
If one of them is still active as you hover over it, it could auto-expand. (an OPTION that you can set will disable this, doubt it would go in, Google and Options = no-no...)

The main problem i have with Wave is they are doing WAY too much with it.
There is so many useless event handlers and bloated data running in the code, that kind of thing really slows the whole thing down like crazy, despite web workers.
Everything, date, menus, everything should be hidden behind the avatar that posted it. One handler. One handler to rule them all.
They need to get rid of all the fancy crap as well. This isn't an application, and despite the fact that browsers have gotten much faster over the past decade, browsers are still terribly slow. It isn't (just?) a JS issue, it is a rendering issue. This is why it ends up hitting a gig of memory usage in some large waves.

There isn't a whole lot they needed to do to fix Wave. Shame they never learned any of that from Etherpad.

captcha: perished. :(

Re:The only reason wave should be used... (1)

mjwx (966435) | about 4 years ago | (#33484806)

Small OSS projects. It replaces irc, todo lists, websites, messenger systems....... If you've ever taken part in a small oss project you'll know the spread out mess I'm talking about.

Actually I'd look at it more as a replacement for the sheer number of MS Exchange servers out there. So many organisations are running stupid exchange setups, not just small orgs but massive ones where Exchange is so spread out each user only gets a 20 MB mailbox due to the Exch database limit.

Not just Exchange but Sharepoint, Office Communications Server, if you've ever been a sysadmin for a die hard MS shop then you know each of these requires their own dedicated server and virtualisation is not easy for these servers.

What needs to be done in order for Wave in a Box to be successful:
1. Email needs to work as per normal.
2. VOIP integration. PSTN/POTS/ISDN optional but would be nice.
3. Someone needs to create a drop in replacement for Exchange (as in a bit of HW that can just be dropped in to the rack, even a VM will do)
4. A method of Exch/Sharepoint migration (probably already exists, but someone needs to write it).

Wave.... um... really? (2, Insightful)

purpleraison (1042004) | about 4 years ago | (#33472760)

First off, I truly thought the concept was great.

However, not being able to delete and modify prior threads is a HUGE (there is no super-duper-de-duper-wholy-shit symbol, so I'll just use the '4' to express my WTF-idness!) privacy issue-- 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4!!!!!

Why would you not even consider the fact that people post stupid stuff, then want to delete it?? 44444444444444444???????

Yeah.... I thought so Google, you are up China's respective bunghole. Does NSA know about this? You should send them a memo....

The Google, you are too out there for me. (1)

Suki I (1546431) | about 4 years ago | (#33472764)

The Google, you are too out there for me. I use The Gmail and The Analytics (can't get strikethrough to behave), The Blogspot, The Translate and that's about it. One day I hope to learn about The Wave, but I have to The Work and pay The Bills in a different geek field than The Googler.

Already said, already said (2)

S1ngularity (1635987) | about 4 years ago | (#33472836)

The roll-out was just terrible (like, in a different way, to Buzz). They should have just added a sweet little "wave live!" button to g-chat and gmail one night. Those wanting to turn it on could have just pressed the button and been like "whoa, this is neat." But instead, Google got way too caught up in their own hype machine and the endless feature implementations.

I want this ... (2, Insightful)

WoodstockJeff (568111) | about 4 years ago | (#33472894)

.... why?

That was my reaction to the breathless introduction one of my coworkers gave to Wave. As he listed the "neatures", as I call them, I couldn't see how any of them would improve work flow without first totally disrupting it, and, even then, the improvements were more in explaining what we were doing than in actually accomplishing work.

Collaborate in real time, when the problem was that we were each working on multiple projects simultaneously? Find a solution that eliminates the distractions and allows you to spend 20 minutes concentrating on ONE THING, so you can recognize the consequences of each step, rather than making it easier to break your train of thought!

Re:I want this ... (1)

NotQuiteReal (608241) | about 4 years ago | (#33473144)

"Those who can't do, collaborate"

and suck you down into their realm of gadget distraction overhead...

thunderbird plugin (1)

AeiwiMaster (20560) | about 4 years ago | (#33473308)

Wave had many interesting features.
But there was no way to let you see waves from
you email client like a feed or a plugin.

Yes, a pine box... (4, Insightful)

loraksus (171574) | about 4 years ago | (#33473370)

Also known as a coffin.

Re:Yes, a pine box... (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | about 4 years ago | (#33473400)

You mean they'll integrate it into pine? [wikipedia.org]

Re:Yes, a pine box... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33475138)

(oblig.) ... it's not dead. It's pinning for the free source.

Concept will survive (1)

Pecisk (688001) | about 4 years ago | (#33473556)

It is real time wiki on steroids, and there is place for such tool, especially in software development. But I can see it to be used in other areas like event planning, rescue operations, etc.

It is reasonable that Google obsoleted their service, as it is really more for people to install and use locally. As it is XMPP based, I expect to see federation of Google Wave servers in, for example, open source world or big software development house.

Re:Concept will survive (1)

Ash-Fox (726320) | about 4 years ago | (#33474186)

It is real time wiki on steroids, and there is place for such tool, especially in software development.

Not really, I really tried to use it for development with other individuals. It ended up slowing us down, we found that it wasn't really that great for working on documents together either due to the lack of proper import/exporting capabilities and the fact that editing was cumbersome between multiple users. Not only that, but half way getting a document done, due to the vast history backlogged, it took forever to load that wave thread for anyone on the team and was causing our web browsers to essentially lock up or eat loads of RAM.

It was far easier to use our original system (Zimbra - which is sort of like gmail, google calendar, google docs, all wrapped into one tabbed interface) to work on documents live together.

This is what Wave should have been. (2, Insightful)

asm2750 (1124425) | about 4 years ago | (#33473574)

Google should have targeted Wave more as a collaboration and document sharing system like microsoft sharepoint in the first place. Heck if it also had its own SVN/CVS management service like source forge it would probably make a killer open/closed source collaboration tool for development. Maybe the original wave already did that and I was too ignorant to notice. Still that's how Google should have made Wave to be. Besides, we already have too many standard social networking sites as it is like facebook and myspace.

Wave in a BOX! (1, Funny)

CODiNE (27417) | about 4 years ago | (#33473956)

Hey girl I got somethin' real important to give you
So just sit down and listen
Girl you know we've been together such a long long time
(such a long time)
And now I'm ready to lay it on the line
(Wooow) You know it's Christmas and my heart is open wide
Gonna give you something so you know what's on my mind
A gift real special, so take off the top
Take a look inside -- it's my Wave in a box

Not gonna get you a diamond ring
That sort of gift don't mean anything
Not gonna get you a fancy car
Girl ya gotta know you're my shining star
Not gonna get you a house in the hills
A girl like you needs somethin' real
Wanna get you somethin' from the heart
Somethin' special girl

It's my Wave in a box, my Wave in a box babe
It's my Wave in a box, my Wave in a box girl

See I'm wise enough to know when a gift needs givin'
(yeah)
And I got just the one, somethin' to show ya that you
are second to none
To all the fellas out there with ladies to impress

It's easy to do just follow these steps
1: Cut a hole in a box
2: Put your Wave in that box
3: Make her open the box

And that's the way you do it
It's my Wave in a box... my Wave in a box babe
It's my Wave in a box, my Wave in a box girl
Christmas; Wave in a box
Hanukkah; Wave in a box
Kwanzaa; a Wave in a box
Every single holiday a Wave in a box
Over at your parent's house a Wave in a box
Mid day at the grocery store a Wave in a box
Backstage at the CMA's a Wave in a box (yeah-wow-wow-wow-wow-wow)
a Wave in a box...

not dead (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33485322)

You guys do realize that google docs now has real-time letter-by-letter collaboration, right?

Wave is not dead, the concept and technology is just silently being integrated into existing products.

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