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Microsoft Holds iPhone Funeral Event

samzenpus posted about 4 years ago | from the buried-alive dept.

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theodp writes "TechFlash reports that Microsoft celebrated the completion and upcoming launch of Windows Phone 7 on Friday with a 'Windows Phone Pride Parade' complete with zombies, a 'Thriller' Dance, and pallbearers carrying a giant iPhone. 'These kind of "ship" parties are common throughout the industry,' explained Microsoft communications VP Frank Shaw. 'It's a great way for teams that have worked overtime to create a kick-ass product blow off steam and have a little fun.'"

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What about the rest of the family? (5, Funny)

bcohen5055 (1428973) | about 4 years ago | (#33548538)

Did I miss the windows vista funeral? How about Windows ME when was that? I had a great obituary prepared

Re:What about the rest of the family? (0, Flamebait)

Elektroschock (659467) | about 4 years ago | (#33548588)

Tasteless, indecent. I will declare this day the Burn-a-Windows-Phone day. Guess that may incite a revolution in the customer support, office worker afraid that their phone would inflame when they don't call 10 others.

We know what this 11 Sept stands for: Violence [wikipedia.org] .

Mad Old Uncle Bob, Too. (2, Funny)

Gazzonyx (982402) | about 4 years ago | (#33548634)

What about Bob?!

Re:Mad Old Uncle Bob, Too. (3, Insightful)

davester666 (731373) | about 4 years ago | (#33549046)

It's kinda tasteless to throw a funeral when everybody made fun of him and you knifed him in the back.

Re:Mad Old Uncle Bob, Too. (1)

Gazzonyx (982402) | about 4 years ago | (#33549070)

To be fair, he had it coming to him. Can we agree on that?

Re:What about the rest of the family? (4, Insightful)

DurendalMac (736637) | about 4 years ago | (#33548758)

Why no funeral for the Kin, MS? Also, I have to laugh heartily at the iPhone and Blackberry funerals. WM7 is going to kill those just like the Zune killed the iPod!

Re:What about the rest of the family? (3, Informative)

Corporate Troll (537873) | about 4 years ago | (#33548794)

Vista? It's still alive... It came with many computer and many users are still using it. Besides, 7 is nothing more than Vista a bit tuned. There are still many things that irk me about sevens interface. (Like no vertical lines in a directory tree... WTF were they thinking?) Luckily you can downgrade Vista Business, which is what came with some PCs at work. Those all run XP Pro now. To get 7 we'd have to shell out money and I'm really not all that convinced of any benefits of Seven. (Bar 64-bit support, but for business use that's largely irrelevant) Users of Vista Home Premium are out of luck though.

Re:What about the rest of the family? (5, Funny)

digitig (1056110) | about 4 years ago | (#33548914)

Vista? It's still alive

I think "undead" is the term.

Re:What about the rest of the family? (4, Insightful)

Inner_Child (946194) | about 4 years ago | (#33548816)

'It's a great way for teams that have worked overtime to create a kick-ass product blow off steam and have a little fun.'

So why does the WinMo7 team get to do this?

Re:What about the rest of the family? (1)

Inner_Child (946194) | about 4 years ago | (#33548842)

Sorry, Windows Phone 7, I forgot the branding change...

Re:What about the rest of the family? (1)

mysidia (191772) | about 4 years ago | (#33549120)

No ME funeral, and Vista's still alive and well, and will be until 2021.

However, Microsoft is probably about to have a Windows 2000 Funeral, seeing as they just declared it End Of Life in July, XP is next in (2014).

Re:What about the rest of the family? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33549224)

Did I miss the windows vista funeral? How about Windows ME when was that? I had a great obituary prepared

What's windows vista?

I missed the one for the KIN (4, Funny)

tomhudson (43916) | about 4 years ago | (#33548540)

And the KIN 2.

Do we get one for Windows Phone 7 - the Next of KIN?

Re:I missed the one for the KIN (1)

Erikderzweite (1146485) | about 4 years ago | (#33548738)

There has been KIN 2?!!

Re:I missed the one for the KIN (1)

tomhudson (43916) | about 4 years ago | (#33548946)

You know how they say "Pics or it never happened?"
The KIN 2 [fonearena.com] .

We "could" have called it the Next of KIN, but it died in the same awful fiery crash. Fortunately, since only KIN 1 and KIN 2 owners were affected, the impact was almost nil.

Are they 'kin mad? (5, Insightful)

gilesjuk (604902) | about 4 years ago | (#33548554)

Hmm let me see, which company recently withdrew a phone after a few weeks on sale?

Why will Windows Phone 7 succeed when Kin failed?

Windows Mobile sold reasonably well, but all the OEMs who pumped out WM handsets have largely moved on and release Android phones now.

Re:Are they 'kin mad? (4, Informative)

jd2112 (1535857) | about 4 years ago | (#33548770)

The Kin failed because it was a somewhat-smarter-than-a-free-with-activation phone selling at smartphone prices. From what I've seen Windows Mobile 7 might have a shot at a respectable market share but I think it will be insufficient to fend off the onslaught of Android and IPhone,

Re:Are they 'kin mad? (4, Insightful)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 4 years ago | (#33548830)

I haven't seen much of Windows 7 that puts it above Android and iPhone. In some respects, it appears several years behind the other two. The only thing that has kept WinMobile relevant has been business users. Windows 7 is breaking all backwards compatibility forcing those users to migrate.

Optimistic... (3, Interesting)

Junta (36770) | about 4 years ago | (#33549208)

MS has been nothing if not consistent in mobile phone marketshare. Up til now, I'd characterize it as not even really trying seriously. Now that they have started to try in earnest, every move they make is a huge head scratcher.

Kin is a shining example of MS not 'getting it'.

Every demo and discussion of WinMo7 seems to show that not only do they not get it, but they are actively screwing over WinMo6 users too. Sideloaded apps? No, copying Apple means none of that. Copy and paste? No, they copy iPhone 2G. Multitasking? Again... no.. Decent UI? No, that would mean knocking off Apple *too* much....

Android is taking it without any contest (though I like WebOS better).

Re:Are they 'kin mad? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33548808)

Yes, but like PlaysForSure when the Zune came out, now that Microsoft has a brand new and better product I'm sure OEMs will come back in droves to take advantage of the new platform.

Re:Are they 'kin mad? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33548820)

Seriously people, it's a ship party.

You can think whatever you like about the actual product, and how it will compare to the iPhone and Android phones, but let the people have some fun with their party.

Re:Are they 'kin mad? (2, Insightful)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 4 years ago | (#33548882)

It's one thing to hold a ship party celebrating your product. It's another to predict that your product will be the demise of your competitor who has been kicking your butt for the last several years when your last several attempts have been laughably pathetic. It's called arrogance, hubris, delusion, etc.

Re:Are they 'kin mad? (1)

mike260 (224212) | about 4 years ago | (#33548834)

Why will Windows Phone 7 succeed when Kin failed?

Because it is a better platform with better carrier support and (one would hope) better marketing?

Re:Are they 'kin mad? (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 4 years ago | (#33549050)

Even in the height of the Win Mobile usage, users were not exactly clamoring for one. They got one because it was one of the few choices that they had for business. With Win 7 Phone, MS has broken all backwards compatibility meaning there is no reason why business users have to stay with MS. With the current feature set, it appears that MS is abandoning business users completely and going after consumers

IDC and Gartner (2, Interesting)

symbolset (646467) | about 4 years ago | (#33549156)

The usual Microsoft fanboys at IDC and Gartner have both weighed in. They don't see Windows Phone 7 being a breakout hit - at best it gets 7 points of share before Windows Mobile resumes its long decline.

Kin (2, Funny)

zonker (1158) | about 4 years ago | (#33548564)

Funny... nobody showed up for the Kin's funeral.

Re:Kin (1, Funny)

binarylarry (1338699) | about 4 years ago | (#33548570)

Sopssa did.

HA HA HA (4, Insightful)

Antisyzygy (1495469) | about 4 years ago | (#33548566)

Dude, I am not really an Apple person, but I seriously doubt a Windows based phone will bet able to take down the iPhone. The funeral aspect just makes Microsoft look like a bunch of twats.

Re:HA HA HA (4, Funny)

Reaperducer (871695) | about 4 years ago | (#33548610)

In the echo chamber of Microsoft love that is the greater Redmond/Bellevue/Issaquah/Seattle area, this makes perfect sense.

People talk about the Steve Jobs reality distortion field that affects people near him. The MS RDF engulfs the entire metro. It's really pathetic to witness.

Re:HA HA HA (1)

macshit (157376) | about 4 years ago | (#33548918)

OTOH, pretty much every MS dev I know seems to have an iphone...

(and of course MS even does iphone development, e.g., for Bing!)

Re:HA HA HA (2, Interesting)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 4 years ago | (#33548960)

Yes but was that by choice? After the iPhone stomping incident by Ballmer how many devs would show an iPhone or Android. MS Devs having a Win 7 Phone is nothing. When MS accountants, HR people, security guards, etc are asking for a Win 7 Phone, then that might worth noting.

Re:HA HA HA (1)

MMC Monster (602931) | about 4 years ago | (#33549122)

People talk about the Steve Jobs reality distortion field that affects people near him. The MS RDF engulfs the entire metro. It's really pathetic to witness.

Steve Jobs' RDF can't be seen for the same reason the magnetosphere can't be seen. It's around all of us, with a radius measured in thousands of miles. I wouldn't be surprised if it's effecting people in low Earth orbit.

Re:HA HA HA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33549178)

The MS RDF exists, and is strong among some people.

Here's a real life example comment I heard from an MS employee (approximate quotation):

I can't believe they did the KIN website in Flash! They should have used Silverlight!

I assure you they're not all that stupid, though.

As for the pictures and the video, well, from what I gather, when the team ships a product, they get a small day of free beer where they can unwind for a bit. The goofy costumes you see are just nerds being nerds. Personally, watching the "Thriller" video, I thought the comment they were trying to convey was: "Windows Mobile is a zombie coming back from the dead." It's important to have a sense of humor. I'm sure most people involved understands the irony and the dangers they face ahead if this product doesn't succeed in the market.

Re:HA HA HA (2, Informative)

robmv (855035) | about 4 years ago | (#33548660)

Zombies??? What are they telling us? that Windows Phone 7 is like a dead man walking?

Re:HA HA HA (4, Insightful)

magus_melchior (262681) | about 4 years ago | (#33548710)

If I didn't know any better, I'd say they're still sore about the "I'm a Mac" ads. Although they weren't very accurate and they were arrogant as hell, Microsoft's responses ("look ma, cheap PC with a ton of bloatware I don't need!" and of course Seinfeld & Bill) have been absolutely pathetic-- and in the case of mobile, they had a golden opportunity to rip Apple a good one over their response to the iPhone 4 antenna design flaw. I mean, come on... they had a ton of examples from other handset makers.

Watching Microsoft's recent PR is sort of like watching a grown man miss a tee-ball. In three swings.

Re:HA HA HA (1)

ScrewMaster (602015) | about 4 years ago | (#33548864)

If I didn't know any better, I'd say they're still sore about the "I'm a Mac" ads. Although they weren't very accurate and they were arrogant as hell, Microsoft's responses ("look ma, cheap PC with a ton of bloatware I don't need!" and of course Seinfeld & Bill) have been absolutely pathetic-- and in the case of mobile, they had a golden opportunity to rip Apple a good one over their response to the iPhone 4 antenna design flaw. I mean, come on... they had a ton of examples from other handset makers.

Watching Microsoft's recent PR is sort of like watching a grown man miss a tee-ball. In three swings.

I tend to agree. With all the money those companies wield, how hard is it to hire a top-notch ad agency? Or, for that matter, hire the best advertising people in the business and turn them loose. Microsoft's people must think that PC means "Politically Correct" not "Personal Computer."

Really, many of Microsoft's commercials are just painful to watch ("Windows 7 was my idea!" What the hell does that mean?) Well, now there was that cool X-Box ad with the baby being ejected from his mother's body, flying through the air aging as we watch, and then landing as an old man in an already-prepared grave. Weird, but kinda cool. If I remember right (and I might not be) it was banned in England.

Of course, Apple has certainly changed its tune from that original "1984" ad. Far from being about freedom, choice and creativity, Apple is now about limitations and restrictions, indeed they've become a high-profile promoter of the "walled garden", at least when it comes to an iAnything. I feel bad about that, because I used to be a major Apple supporter back in the Apple ][ days. They were a really neat outfit, I wrote and sold a lot of code for the Apple ][-series. The Macintosh held little interest for me, because I could see where it was heading ("computing appliance" indeed.) Today, the only distinction between Apple and Microsoft is that Apple ... well, Microsoft is ... I mean, Apple is definitely better because ... ah well. Not so much.

Neither company is really worthy of all that much respect when you get right down to it, unless your only measure of a corporation's worth is the size of their dividends.

Re:HA HA HA (1)

glebd (586769) | about 4 years ago | (#33549204)

Neither company is really worthy of all that much respect when you get right down to it, unless your only measure of a corporation's worth is the size of their dividends.

Except Apple makes products that work. You can at least respect them for that.

When... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33548574)

will microsoft wake up to the fact that they are no longer relevant??

Re:When... (4, Insightful)

yoyhed (651244) | about 4 years ago | (#33548642)

I'd say Office and Windows are still pretty damn relevant. However, in the mobile space - yeah, WinMo7 isn't going to change anything. iPhones and Android phones will still rule the smartphone market, and though BlackBerries are a dying breed in terms of the cutting-edge, even they will far exceed WinMo7's usage.

what the hell (1)

friedman101 (618627) | about 4 years ago | (#33548582)

i live in seattle, the mecca and last bastion of microsoft fanboyism. i haven't met one person excited about this, even the 20k Microsoft employees who are getting them for free seem pretty meh about it. didn't the last microsoft phone [engadget.com] get pulled off the shelves after selling like 400 nation wide? the cart is about 20 miles ahead of the horse here.

Re:what the hell (3, Funny)

Man On Pink Corner (1089867) | about 4 years ago | (#33548772)

The 400-unit sellthrough figure was a slanderous lie spread by Apple fanboy trolls. The actual number of Kin phones sold was closer to 1000.

Re:what the hell (1)

istartedi (132515) | about 4 years ago | (#33549246)

400? Really? How will this compare in value to Apple Newtons 20 years from now? Maybe 400 is, paradoxicly, too low to pique the interest of collectors.

In order for it to be collectably bad, it probably has to fall into enough hands so that people will remember it.

In any event, if it's that rare an item it's probably worth holding on to it if you retain it un-opened, and have the extra space...

better plan ahead when you go out to a show (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33548598)

It might take 5 minutes to turn off your Windows 7 phone, while various processes decide whether or not to respond to the shutdown.

Its just one tragic blunder after another (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33548602)

Who the fuck at m$ thought this could bring them anything but ridicule?

Re:Its just one tragic blunder after another (3, Insightful)

0123456 (636235) | about 4 years ago | (#33548628)

Who the fuck at m$ thought this could bring them anything but ridicule?

Presumably the same people who think that anyone would intentionally buy a phone that runs Windows?

Re:Its just one tragic blunder after another (1)

webminer (1619915) | about 4 years ago | (#33548838)

Well, technically, I did buy a windows phone (HTC HD2, runs Windows Mobile 6.5). But I loaded Android 2.2 as soon as I got bought the phone. Now, I use windows only during bootup (which is maybe once a week). I couldn't stand the winmo interface for more than a few mins. Laggy and slow. Not sure if win mo 7 will fix anything at all.

Grip and Tip (1, Offtopic)

Gazzonyx (982402) | about 4 years ago | (#33548608)

A bit off topic, but I'd like my fellow slashdotters to do me a favor...
If anything ever happens to me, pour out a 40 into the gutter for a money makin' thug.
Then pour out a caffeinated beverage into the gutter for me. I'd prefer RockStar, but Monster or even English Breakfast Tea would suffice.

Re:Grip and Tip (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33548862)

The fuck?

Mental health issues in Redmond (1)

cyber-vandal (148830) | about 4 years ago | (#33548612)

They need that delusional psychosis sorted now. I can just picture a group of men in Armani suits wandering around the streets of Seattle saying "I love my Kin" over and over again.

mi8Us 5, Troll) (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33548630)

ranSom for their PROJECT. TODAY, AS

Microwho? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33548632)

Weren't they that nasty monopolist?

So how do we divvy up the fan base, here? (3, Funny)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | about 4 years ago | (#33548638)

Okay, so we have our iPhone fans and Android fans... we need to make some room for Win7 Phone fans here. Do we just take a few volunteers now or do we wait for a few hostile stories to come along so a handful of people can conclude that those stores aren't true and become fans that way?

Re:So how do we divvy up the fan base, here? (1)

BoRegardless (721219) | about 4 years ago | (#33548704)

Welcome welcome to Windows Seven

Wrapped up safely again

In bubble wrapped Microsoft Heaven

Future Fandom (2, Informative)

Tailhook (98486) | about 4 years ago | (#33548742)

we need to make some room for Win7 Phone fans here

How many Windows 7 Phone fans attended the Win7 PhoneFest in 2011?

Both.

Re:So how do we divvy up the fan base, here? (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | about 4 years ago | (#33548998)

Windows Phone 7 really has one target and that's to be more usable, more enterprise friendly and more stable than BlackBerry 6.

If they're seriously targeting iPhones, I suspect a Zune like adoption rate. If they're targeting BB, they may have a hit on their hands.

Re:So how do we divvy up the fan base, here? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33549238)

I think paul thurrott is on slashdot? He should take care of it... http://www.winsupersite.com/mobile/wp7_emotion.asp [winsupersite.com]

iPhone is dead (1, Insightful)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | about 4 years ago | (#33548646)

Windows 7 phone is DOA.

OK to have the funeral too. For both of them.

The thing they missed is that Android has done the killing.

Re:iPhone is dead (1)

BasilBrush (643681) | about 4 years ago | (#33548682)

We've heard much the same from you about iPod killers for nearly a decade. How's that working out for you?

What a joke... (1)

Chuq (8564) | about 4 years ago | (#33548668)

I saw Windows Phone 7 demoed in the keynote at Tech Ed Australia this year, and as most of the audience it was a great big "who cares". Nothing revolutionary, ugly UI. They even demoed four WM7 applications which had been developed, all of which were your standard application which sources data from a website and displays it for the phones UI. You could tell in their voices they were trying to make it sound exciting, but it's nothing iPhone/Android doesn't already have.

How the Arrangements were Made (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33548672)

Clippy: "I see you're having a funeral, would you like help with that?"

Why not show hubris? (4, Insightful)

RyanFenton (230700) | about 4 years ago | (#33548676)

If you know your product is highly likely going to fail, why not add some poetry to existence by showing the maximum hubris possible?

If you can't be a good example of success, then you can also play a role of being a very loud example of failure.

The problem is that, at looking to politics and business, most extremely loud examples of failure end up being repeated anyway the very next political/financial cycle, with very little modifications to counter that same method of failure.

Ultimately, it is because people remember claims, not results [chicagobooth.edu] - so the loud hubris ends up attracting more imitation than the results drive a logical reaction.

Ryan Fenton

There (0, Troll)

kaoshin (110328) | about 4 years ago | (#33548684)

Take that you conceited, coffee drinking, terminally hip, walled gardened, Steve Jobs worshiping, hybrid driving douche bag crapintosh lovers. How 'bout some Winders fo that ass?

so tell me (1)

FranTaylor (164577) | about 4 years ago | (#33548686)

What happens when you try to bury someone and they aren't dead yet?

No doubt their goal will be to put YOU in that hole.

MS used to scare people (5, Insightful)

astrashe (7452) | about 4 years ago | (#33548698)

These guys used to strike terror into people -- they'd kill startups by just hinting that they were working on something similar.

I never thought I'd feel sorry for them.

nerd humor fail (1)

jewishbaconzombies (1861376) | about 4 years ago | (#33548740)

Unfunny and self-defensive against someone killing you in the marketplace. Ya - that's nerd humor alright.

I've been in the industry a while (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33548750)

I was on the teams that shipped the iPod, every generation since the first.

And we never held a funeral for a competitor's product. In fact at the 4th iPod anniversary party, we had a pinata of our own product that we whacked with a stick.

This is tasteless and if MS' product does fail to kill the iPhone, they'll just look like a huge bunch of idiots.

I think this PR agent would have done better to just say "it seemed like a good idea at the time" instead of trying to write it off as "everyone does it".

Re:I've been in the industry a while (1)

KarmaMB84 (743001) | about 4 years ago | (#33548790)

I wonder if after the KIN debacle, they're trying to show their partners they're so behind this product, they're willing to make themselves look like idiots for it....

Re:I've been in the industry a while (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 4 years ago | (#33549010)

At this point, anyone who partners with MS has to be wary. They have a history of backstabbing them. i.e. Zune. With the KIN, the reports of less 10,000 unit sales represents a huge financial loss to Sharp who manufactured the units.

Meanwhile... (1)

Man On Pink Corner (1089867) | about 4 years ago | (#33548754)

Engineers and managers at Apple meet in a boring, windowless conference room to discuss how to address weaknesses in the iPhone, what features should be added and how they should be implemented, and how to sell more units.

Re:Meanwhile... (1)

pandrijeczko (588093) | about 4 years ago | (#33549142)

...and presumably the only thing they could come up with after all that was to tell Steve Jobs to use the word "magical" in his press conferences.

Re:Meanwhile... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33549254)

Whatever works. Maybe Ballmer could take some magic lessons, and see if it helps.

thank you (1)

The Clockwork Troll (655321) | about 4 years ago | (#33548778)

I represent the beleaguered estate of Michael Jackson and we are pleased you have chosen to include us in your marketing budget.

Please make the check out to "Bubbles".

Pride Parade (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33548780)

'Windows Phone Pride Parade' it's official -- Windows Phones are gay.. // Sorry couldnt pass up the double entendre

That is so pathetic (1)

devent (1627873) | about 4 years ago | (#33548784)

They are so insecure that they must compare their product to the iPhone and, worst, hire dancers to dance in the street for their product. As one of the biggest software company you would expect them to set standards but they are only ride the "me, too" train. Like first Zune, the "me, too" iPod, now the WM7, the "me, too" iPhone and Android.

Re:That is so pathetic - true (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33549168)

Windows 7 and Vista also have a lot of me too features.

Let's quote Ballmer... (1)

BearRanger (945122) | about 4 years ago | (#33548802)

"I like our strategy. I like it a lot." Funerals aside, how's that working out for you Steve?

Windows Phone Pride Parade? (1)

sharkey (16670) | about 4 years ago | (#33548818)

"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!"

It never happened (1)

overshoot (39700) | about 4 years ago | (#33548822)

And of course we know that in the unlikely event that Apple survives the irresistible force that is WP7, Microsoft will acknowledge that the rumors of the iPhone's death might have been somewhat exaggerated.

noobz (1)

paiute (550198) | about 4 years ago | (#33548848)

It's an iFuneral. Duh.

But where was Android during the funeral? (4, Funny)

Jim Buzbee (517) | about 4 years ago | (#33548850)

Why doing the filming [techcrunch.com] of course. Big Fail for Microsoft...

Bigashnigg (0, Flamebait)

Bigashnigg (1804134) | about 4 years ago | (#33548860)

Lol why celebrate beating the Iphone? it sucks anyways rofl. Droid is the best phone out there this phone is nothing to it!

Why they do even care about iPhone (1)

diegocg (1680514) | about 4 years ago | (#33548870)

It's Android who is stealing the mobile partners to Microsoft, not Apple.

Re:Why they do even care about iPhone (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 4 years ago | (#33548936)

Yep. Android is customizable and free: Two things that manufacturers can't get from MS. With Win 7 Phone, it appears that MS is imposing more conditions to make Win 7 Phones more consistent. That can't be looked favorably upon by manufacturers.

Easy... (1)

Junta (36770) | about 4 years ago | (#33549176)

Because everything about the revamp of WinMo7 was to mimic Apple. Remove multitasking intentionally, remove copy and paste intentionally (even Apple rectified that long ago, but MS seems enamored of that).

MS observed that they are firmly in the 'other' category in market share, took a glance and saw Apple with the biggest slice at the time, didn't look at trend data to see where it was going nor made the connection about partners vs homegrown phone, and shamelessly started ripping it off inconsistently, but applying their relatively poor UI sense to the base concepts exhibited by Apple's phone.

Now, Android is going strong due to technical capabilities and flexibility afforded to phone makers MS simply can *not* match with a business model they can be comfortable with. So they hope to extract money by giving partners an iPhone knockoff rather than trying to truly innovate.

Windows Phone 7 will absolutely inherit the legacy of Kin.

Ballmer did want to "bury" Google (1)

Arancaytar (966377) | about 4 years ago | (#33548894)

Reportedly, he also took off a shoe and banged it on a table.

(Or maybe there was something about a chair. :P )

Abyss (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33548922)

They should have thrown the iphone into the red ring of death... or present the iphone screen with a blue screen of death... That would have been much better than this pathetic parade...

Notify next of Kin (5, Insightful)

broKenfoLd (755627) | about 4 years ago | (#33549004)

Dear Microsoft, Seriously? Anyone remember the Microsoft Kin, launched in 2010? If the iPhone has died, then the Microsoft offering was a stillborn. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-20009336-56.html [cnet.com]

ha ha "pride" (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33549006)

"Pride" is now a gay symbol. Who'd have thunk it, Apple iIsGayPhone and a precession of gays. All bend over for the mighty Steve. (KY optional).

Probably not eating their own dogfood though. (1)

spasm (79260) | about 4 years ago | (#33549042)

I wonder how many of the attendees had an iphone in their back pocket..

Que... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33549058)

Que the Mac nuts whining about bullshit.

Why do we care about this? (5, Insightful)

AusIV (950840) | about 4 years ago | (#33549066)

I'm getting tired of all this circle jerking about smart phones. There can be more than one smartphone operating system. There doesn't have to be a "victor" to have a successful smartphone OS. There's no reason that the success of Windows 7 phone (or whatever it's called, I don't really care) has to be predicated on the death of the iPhone. The two can coexist. Yes, they'll compete with each other, but there doesn't always have to be a winner and a loser.

I'm an android fan. My current phone is Android based, and my next phone will probably be android based. But if someone would prefer an iPhone, a Windows Mobile phone, a phone from Palm or Blackberry, I really don't care. The existence of competitors in no way reduces the utility of my own phone. In fact, the existence of competition probably leads to improvements for all of the phones.

Let's crash that party. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33549090)

NOT FINAL HARDWARE [tested.com] . People who bought this product also bought: Swampland, Bridges.

Copyright violation? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33549134)

Did they get permission to publicly play the "Thriller"?

having been at that party three things struck me.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33549154)

1. Steve Ballmer, who I had never seen before is really really wierd. Like, Kevin Spacey on acid wierd. But all around... he seemed like a nice enough guy... if a little high risk for aneurism. It was amusing to hear how he prefers using his phone to a microsoft equipped PC.

2. Damn near everyone at the event was using an iPhone or a blackberry to record Ballmers speech. Walking around seattle I see a LOT of droid phones, going tonto M$ft's campus produced the highest density of iPhones I have seen in the region. I was surprised to see an almost sheer absence of either droids or previous windows phones. And obviously the iPhones work quite well regardless of the antenna issue, as all the microsoft kiddies had their phones extremely wrapped up in their hands.

3. The phones they were toting around were actually really nice. Not droid noce, but certainly nicer than iOS. I think they might very successfully have hit the niche between the power user that wants a droid and a 13 year old girls and phone sex people that want iPhone facetime chatability. From the phones I saw, I can see windows 7 totally wiping out Blackberry and Symbian... it felt like it would work for users of those two OS's but far smoother that blackberry or symbian. I don't think it even remotely touches iOS or Android though.

Oh, and microsoft kids can not under any circumstances handle their alcohol. It was rather embarrassing.

What i thought... (1)

keith_nt4 (612247) | about 4 years ago | (#33549180)

I guess it's odd on my part but I saw that headline about a funeral at the launch and assumed it must be for windows mobile 6.5 and earlier which 7 is effectively retiring. I don't know that 7 is supposed to be backwards compatible, probably not if I had to guess. And I thought it odd MS would formalize the death of their product. But it's a "funeral" for the iPhone. That makes slightly more sense. I guess.

Who? (1)

codepunk (167897) | about 4 years ago | (#33549206)

Who is this Microsoft that you speak of?

mo3 Down (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33549210)

superior to slow, Elected, we took dabblers. In truth, oF the founders of was after a long

You FaK1l It (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33549242)

launch for which product now? (4, Insightful)

lawpoop (604919) | about 4 years ago | (#33549256)

It's pretty sad that the events around the launch of their product are about the iPhone rather than their own. Don't they have anything to tout about Windows phone 7? Or can they only tear down the other guy?
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