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Torvalds Becomes an American Citizen

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the i-did-that-34-years-ago dept.

Linux 654

netbuzz writes "Having brought his open-source work and family to the United States from Finland some time ago, Linus Torvalds has marked an important personal milestone by attaining US citizenship. A casual remark on the Linux kernel mailing list about registering to vote led to the community being in on the news. Torvalds has acknowledged being a bit of a procrastinator on this move, writing in a 2008 blog post: 'Yeah, yeah, we should probably have done the citizenship thing a long time ago, since we've been here long enough (and two of the kids are US citizens by virtue of being born here), but anybody who has had dealings with the INS will likely want to avoid any more of them, and maybe things have gotten better with a new name and changes, but nothing has really made me feel like I really need that paperwork headache again.' In that post he also expresses dislike for the American style of politics in which he will now be able to participate directly."

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Interesting... (4, Funny)

TrisexualPuppy (976893) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575730)

...but does he run Linux?

More importantly (5, Funny)

MillionthMonkey (240664) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575792)

Is Linus secretly from Kenya? I find his source code to be socialist and anti-colonialist.

Re:More importantly (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576046)

If you use the Glenn Beck meme here, you can avoid being tagged flamebait.

I just heard on the internet that {Person's name} {did something horrible}. Now, I'm not saying that {Person's name} {did something horrible}. But it does strike me as a little suspicious that {Person's name} has never denied {doing something horrible}. Really, I'm not accusing {Person's Name} of {doing something horrible}. But if {Person's name} didn't {do something horrible}, why hasn't he denied {doing something horrible}?

For some reason, It's ok as long as you are making fun of the right here.

Re:More importantly (1)

kgibbsvt (162082) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576436)

Its a reference to that other nut job Newt Gingrich. But admittedly its hard to keep track, there are so many to choose from. - kg

Re:More importantly (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576448)

If you use the Glenn Beck meme here, you can avoid being tagged flamebait.

I just heard on the internet that {Person's name} {did something horrible}. Now, I'm not saying that {Person's name} {did something horrible}. But it does strike me as a little suspicious that {Person's name} has never denied {doing something horrible}. Really, I'm not accusing {Person's Name} of {doing something horrible}. But if {Person's name} didn't {do something horrible}, why hasn't he denied {doing something horrible}?

For some reason, It's ok as long as you are making fun of the right here.

The right-wing is more acquainted with logic and therefore less likely to start frothing at the mouth and looking for a way to silence the speaker (however underhanded or childish) in response to any perceived slight or insult. It's part of why Glenn Beck may be admired or respected among right-leaning people for so long as his views make sense to them, but he is not the Messianic savior that many leftists seem to think Obama is.

Any good that leftism has done has been in spite of the general immaturity, emotionalism, and misplaced trust in the benevolence of government that it attracts. It's why they pretend like criminals obey gun-control laws, they pretend like lowering taxes doesn't increase the federal government's revenues, they pretend like appeasement works and that our President bowing and scraping to other heads of state won't be perceived as weakness.

Re:More importantly (2, Insightful)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576552)

The right-wing is more acquainted with logic

You lost me.

"More acquainted" than whom? Everyone else? Does "the right-wing" have some sort of monopoly on rational thought?

Re:More importantly (4, Funny)

Arancaytar (966377) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576352)

I have heard rumors that not only is Linus secretly Muslim, he is also secretly black.

Re:More importantly (2, Funny)

VGPowerlord (621254) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576470)

I heard Linus is secretly an ice bear!

Re:Interesting... (1)

vlueboy (1799360) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575954)

...but does he run Linux?

Seeing how he stated "and maybe things have gotten better with a new name and changes"
the question should be:

Did he legally change his name to "Linux" ?

Finnish Anchor Babies!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33575754)

I guess it was only a matter of time

Linus for President! (-1, Offtopic)

Kiaser Zohsay (20134) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575756)

Oh, wait never mind. I thought of something else FIRST.

Derp (4, Funny)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575758)

He took our jerbs!

Re:Derp (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576452)

He took our jerbs!

Darl, is that you?

So what? (4, Insightful)

fiannaFailMan (702447) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575764)

It's his own business.

Re:So what? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576044)

It's his own business.

Don't you know anything? His name is known among some people so they have to pretend to understand him on a personal level and act like they personally know him and are very concerned about the most trivial and personal details of his life. That's what we do with celebrities.

Hey, did you know that some woman you've never met is having relationship problems with some man you've never met? Who gives a fuck? Oh yeah, one of them can act/sing/dance so that makes it really really important! Let's not do this with programmers. Please.

Epictetus said something about how talking about the affairs of others leads to small-mindedness. He couldn't have been more on the money.

immigration category (5, Interesting)

Rene S. Hollan (1943) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575770)

I'm more interested what his immigration category was? Mine was EB-2 (Person with advanced degree: Master or Ph.D). I suspect his was EB-1 (Person of national interest).

Re:immigration category (1)

rotide (1015173) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575840)

Can't it be both? He holds an advanced degree (Masters) as well.

Re:immigration category (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33575962)

H1-b of course. The job spec was typically unfulfillable by locals due to the line: "inventor of kernel in use world wide".

Re:immigration category (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576006)

I'm more interested what his immigration category was? Mine was EB-2 (Person with advanced degree: Master or Ph.D). I suspect his was EB-1 (Person of national interest).

Probably an "O-1", a rare beast.

Re:immigration category (3, Funny)

sakdoctor (1087155) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576270)

More likely "O log n"

Re:immigration category (0, Troll)

kanguro (1237830) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576410)

More likely ASS-1

WOAH WOAH WOAH (4, Insightful)

moogied (1175879) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575784)

He has TWO kids here? And he had those while NOT being a full american citizen? He had Anchor babies? Someone call FOX news please. We cannot have this filth just coming here and knocking out brats!
Wait what? He is a constructive member of society? Hes already contributed to the American culture before he was a citizen? The entire idea of making immigration more difficult is crazy bullshit? *mind explodes*

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (5, Funny)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575824)

no, no, no... the proper term is GNU/Anchor Baby.

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (1)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575842)

Bravo, sir. Bravo.

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (1)

Wonko the Sane (25252) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575866)

You win the thread.

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (1)

BrokenHalo (565198) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575912)

No, that's for Mr. Stallman's kids.

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33575988)

No, it's if Mr. Stallman and Linus had kids together..

*shudder*

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (1)

devphaeton (695736) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575922)

That implies that Linus had a spawn of hairy love-children with Richard Stallman... ..ew.

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (4, Insightful)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576038)

This is just one more reason we need to repeal the 14th Amendment! Nevermind the parts about Due Process and Equal Protection, or the fact that we're ALL immigrants; we have to quash further immigration at any price!

we're ALL immigrants (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576248)

The would be news to the native Americans - who also didn't get to vote for quite a while after constitution was written...

Re:we're ALL immigrants (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576392)

Well, actually they're descendants of immigrants as well. Just you try to study their DNA and see how far you get!

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576324)

look you retard, the citizenship part of the 14th amendment was designed *only* to give former slaves (who had an ambiguous citizenship status) citizenship.

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576344)

well done, sir.

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (5, Insightful)

Midnight's Shadow (1517137) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575902)

He has TWO kids here? And he had those while NOT being a full american citizen? He had Anchor babies? Someone call FOX news please. We cannot have this filth just coming here and knocking out brats! Wait what? He is a constructive member of society? Hes already contributed to the American culture before he was a citizen? The entire idea of making immigration more difficult is crazy bullshit? *mind explodes*

I realize you are being sarcastic but I would like to point out that he was here legally to begin with. Weird isn't it how some people can actually navigate the Byzantine immigration process instead of just sneaking across the boarder?

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (0)

moogied (1175879) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575970)

Ya I agree. I was just feeling a bit of the daily show style of mis-contextualized jokes. :p

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (1)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575986)

Linus is an educated and skilled worker who is responsible for the underpinnings of large section of the digital economy. He's not exactly the type of person who's likely to need to sneak across the boarder. Chances are high that the only lawn he's mowed since arriving is his own.

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (4, Insightful)

Pharmboy (216950) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576502)

Chances are high that the only lawn he's mowed since arriving is his own.

Chances are even higher than the guy mowing his lawn now doesn't have the same paperwork that Linus had before he became a citizen.

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (1, Insightful)

Draek (916851) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576066)

Well, considering even a guy with a Master's Degree in Computer Science had such a hard time with the inmigration process he postponed dealing with it again for *years*, I'd say it's hard to blame those who just "sneak" across.

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (4, Insightful)

AltairDusk (1757788) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576232)

Considering that he dealt with it enough to come here legally, remain here legally, and now become a citizen here legally despite his apparent frustration with the process I don't find it hard to blame those who just sneak across. If someone isn't willing to do it the right way perhaps they should reconsider how much they want to be here.

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (-1, Troll)

russotto (537200) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576420)

If someone isn't willing to do it the right way perhaps they should reconsider how much they want to be here.

Perhaps the "right way" is unavailable to some people. I would imagine the process of getting a green card was a lot easier for Linus Torvalds than it would be for some random Jose Gonzales with not so much as a high school degree.

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (1)

albedoa (1529275) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576530)

If someone isn't willing to endure a process that provides no guarantees and is instead willing to risk it all to come here, then they should reconsider how much they want to be here. Yeah that makes sense.

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576184)

Byzantine immigration process

Is that the one where you arrive in an occupied country, kill most of the natives and displace the rest?

Someone should teach the Mexicans how to do it properly.

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (1)

shentino (1139071) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576348)

Exactly.

It took a genius like Linus to do it.

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (1)

DrgnDancer (137700) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576370)

That's hardly fair, the man has an advanced degree in Computer Science, has a line on his resume that puts him in a club with maybe 20 other people currently living ("Invented a widely used operating system"), is a minor celebrity, and is from a European country. Of course he got through immigration, immigration probably sent people to his house to make sure everything was all right. He's exactly the kind of person the immigration process was designed to facilitate. Most people that want to come over here have none of those advantages, and aren't in way likely to be able to pick them up before they apply for a green card.

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (0, Flamebait)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576536)

> I realize you are being sarcastic but I would like to point out that he was
> here legally to begin with. Weird isn't it how some people can actually navigate
> the Byzantine immigration process instead of just sneaking across the boarder?

You don't "navigate the Byzantine immigration process", you hire a lawyer.

If you personally had to deal with the Migra, you would probably remain undocumented.

It's not trivial. It's also not cheap. It's not cheap if you are a well paid geek; forget about being a normal working stiff like your poor gringo cousins.

Oh stop (5, Insightful)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576144)

You are trying to make an issue where there isn't one. Torvalds was here legally, he had his green card. You can live in the US permanently and never get citizenship, legally, if you wish to.

Thus far I have yet to encounter someone trying to make an issue of people who are legal permanent residents. You seem to be building a straw man ot pick a fight where there is not one.

When you start shouting and being absurd just to start a fight you are no better than those you are trying to attack.

Re:Oh stop (2, Informative)

Kufat (563166) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576246)

Please learn to recognize sarcasm. This wasn't even a difficult one; the second line of the GP made it clear that the first line was said in jest!

Re:Oh stop (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576316)

You are trying to make an issue where there isn't one.

Not at all. The GP was clearly mocking the people who are actively trying to make an issue where there isn't one in a play to brainwash stupid people through fear.

Re:Oh stop (2, Interesting)

confused one (671304) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576518)

You beat me to it. My mother never applied for U.S. citizenship. She lived here for 35 years before she went home to care for her elderly mother. Now, my father, a U.S. citizen, lives overseas. These things happen and it's not a big deal.

Re:WOAH WOAH WOAH (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576304)

Not only that, he's also stealing American jobs with his "free software"! How can a man make an honest living when immigrants are coming over and offering to do it for nothing!

And the real news is? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33575788)

He's an American citizen. Now what? For the larger community it simply means he hails from a different nationality. Nothing to see here, move on.

socialist software (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33575790)

Great! That's all we need. One more socialist giving away his socialist software coming to America. Sell your software like an 'merican capitalist!

The Real American System (1, Troll)

ponraul (1233704) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575798)

How will this allow him to "participate directly" in American politics more so than before? Citizenship doesn't change the way you write checks.

Re:The Real American System (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33575904)

The US has this thing called "voting". It's not just about the 4 year change of president, there's a huge amount that can be voted on locally, particularly on local positions in govt, school boards, firecheif, sheriff etc. As a tax payer, you have no say, as a citizen, you can get involved.

Re:The Real American System (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576060)

It's so cute how Americans are brainwashed into thinking their vote actually counts.

Re:The Real American System (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576198)

No, what's cute is how naive teenyboppers think tossing around terms like "brainwashed" make them come off as world-weary cynics.

Re:The Real American System (1)

AltairDusk (1757788) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576546)

It would if enough people voted for a candidate who meets the right qualifications: reasonably intelligent, genuinely wants to benefit the country, and can't be bought. Sadly that seems to be a nonexistant combination of traits in politics.

Re:The Real American System (1)

cygnwolf (601176) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576164)

I think the GP was referring to 'Campaign contribution' checks...

Re:The Real American System (2, Insightful)

mlts (1038732) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576242)

The US is lucky in one respect: Unlike most of Europe where citizens 18-20 have to go into the army or other duty for two years, US citizens really only have two duties: Jury duty and voting. No, there is no law forcing people to the polls, but by not voting, people are letting people who are likely dumber than themselves, or the lobbyists and their ad firms behind the attack ads decide the election.

If you are a US citizen, vote. If you like neither candidate, write someone in. It doesn't matter what side you are on, just go, do your research for the candidates, and go vote. /rant.

Re:The Real American System (1)

JacTheSandAngel (1895980) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576510)

Make me.

Welcome Aboard (-1, Troll)

rally2xs (1093023) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575816)

Yes, I'd say welcome aboard, and wonder any more why anyone would want to do that, with the country rushing headlong toward socialism and therefore an impending economic collapse. We have all the making of a disaster that will dwarf the Great Depression, and there doesn't seem to be much of anyone who wants to do anything about it.

Re:Welcome Aboard (-1, Troll)

Wonko the Sane (25252) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575942)

with the country rushing headlong toward socialism and therefore an impending economic collapse

Toward socialism? We're waist-deep it. Unfortunately for Europe they're up to their necks so we'll get the privilege of watching it blow up in their faces just before it explodes in ours.

Re:Welcome Aboard (2, Insightful)

RobertB-DC (622190) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576012)

Yes, I'd say welcome aboard, and wonder any more why anyone would want to do that, with the country rushing headlong toward socialism and therefore an impending economic collapse. We have all the making of a disaster that will dwarf the Great Depression, and there doesn't seem to be much of anyone who wants to do anything about it.

Amazing. Just three years ago, people were saying how they couldn't imagine why anyone would want to come to a country rushing headlong into fascism and therefore an impending social collapse, with all the making of a disaster that would dwarf McCarthyism, and that there didn't seem to be much of anyone who wanted to do anything about it.

The only conclusion I can draw is that both sides are wrong, and/or both sides are right. In any case, if we were doing something so terribly wrong Over Here, I can't imagine why we'd still be attracting so many folks from Over There.

Re:Welcome Aboard (1)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576192)

Neither side is fundamentally disinterested, and therefore is given to hyperbole. Whatever the greatest evil they can muster (for the right, socailism/communism, for the left, fascism/trotskyism (neo-cons are basically just disgused trotskyists -- it's all about the perpetual revolution/spreading democracy)), that's the label they slap on their opponents without any hesitation in order to stop and think whether or not its really warranted.

Its not that both sides are right or wrong, its that both sides are pretty much just kind of dumb.

Or Maybe... (1)

hellfire (86129) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576362)

Or maybe we are going to hell in a hand basket, and Linus is just to lazy to move? It took him this long just to sign up for citizenship.

"Oh look, the four horsemen are outside my window, maybe it's time to go back to Finland."

Re:Welcome Aboard (4, Insightful)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576028)

1. Comments like this wish that this was filed under politics.
2. Dude he is from Finnland. I doubt that he feels the US is rushing toward socialism.

Other than that welcome to the list of great Americans that includes Albert Einstein and Alexander Gram Bell.

Re:Welcome Aboard (5, Insightful)

rotide (1015173) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576042)

Right, it's "socialism" that's hurting our county. Not the constant erosion of citizens rights, nope. Not the constant and gratuitous government spending. Not the off-shoring of nearly all our industry because we'd rather have a cheaper item regardless of the human cost overseas. Not the constant War-State mentality where we have to fight "Terrorism", "Drugs", "Copyright", etc, etc, and again, pay for it. Not the fact that our country is basically being run _by_ corporations _for_ corporations (heavy lobbying).

No, it's the thought that maybe, just maybe, some of the spending government does should actually help _citizens_ that's hurting us.

Seriously?

P.S. Sorry for the OT comment. I just get so tired of hearing this BS Glenn Beck inspired bullshit.

Re:Welcome Aboard (1, Interesting)

Wonko the Sane (25252) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576114)

You're confused because you think socialism is designed to benefit you instead of the oligarchs.

The government uses a variety of methods to redistribute wealth from the population to the corporations and throws the peasants just enough to chain them to the system so that they don't revolt.

Re:Welcome Aboard (3, Insightful)

rotide (1015173) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576190)

I don't consider government funding of private/public businesses socialism. That's just a feedback loop due to corporate lobbying, in my mind at least. A "we'll help fill your pockets if you fill ours and also make us CEO's and/or some other high paid employees afterward" sort of deal.

Re:Welcome Aboard (2, Insightful)

east coast (590680) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576256)

Not the constant erosion of citizens rights, nope. Not the constant and gratuitous government spending. Not the off-shoring of nearly all our industry because we'd rather have a cheaper item regardless of the human cost overseas. Not the constant War-State mentality where we have to fight "Terrorism", "Drugs", "Copyright", etc, etc, and again, pay for it.

Well, in all fairness, Neither side is willing to do anything about all of that either.

I just get so tired of hearing this BS major party inspired bullshit.

Fixed that for you. It's already pretty easy to see that both sides are pretty much doing the same thing but using different excuses as to why they do it. Why bother acting like this is a right wing vs left wing problem? The powers that be, regardless of their party, have a common goal and, unless you're one of their power elite, you're not included on the winning side of things. Anyone following a major party at this point is fodder to the parties' leadership and a betrayer of the country's citizens.

Re:Welcome Aboard (1)

rotide (1015173) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576342)

Too True.. I voted for the current politician in charge and frankly, I only did so because the other guy scared me more. Even if I was a Republican (not that I consider myself a Democrat) I think I'd hate Glenn Beck just the same. Damn he's a moron, or more to the point, those that eat up everything he says.

Our political system is a joke. Both sides want basically the same things. They are just different flavors of suck.

Re:Welcome Aboard (2, Insightful)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576268)

Well, to be fair, the Soviet Union had constant and gratuitous government spending, an erosion of citizens rights, and a constant war-state mentality. Socialism with the Big S is generally not the same thing as Social Democracy. The "Socialism" of Western Europe was Social Democracy, not the Socialism of the red flags; the Marxist "Scientific Socialism" of the Internationale that most people call Communism today. Except the people who think they're being cleaver and claim that "pure communism" was supposed to be Libertarian Socialism, aka "Anarchism." it wasn't. Mikhail Bakunin and Karl Marx were arch-rivals in the First Internationale over this issue, and Marxism, slightly refined by Lenin and Trotsky, and established by the Bolsheviks in the Soviet Union was the real McCoy.

Re:Welcome Aboard (1)

rally2xs (1093023) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576360)

Citizens Rights -> Drug War
Gov't Spending -> Aforementioned socialism
Offshoring -> Income Tax
Constant War State -> Weak response to acts of terror by Clinton Adminstration

And agree that lobbying should be outlawed.

Re:Welcome Aboard (1)

russotto (537200) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576538)

Right, it's "socialism" that's hurting our county. Not the constant erosion of citizens rights, nope. Not the constant and gratuitous government spending. Not the off-shoring of nearly all our industry because we'd rather have a cheaper item regardless of the human cost overseas.

Much of the constant and gratuitous government spending is socialist. As many who use the term include nanny-statism as part and parcel of socialism, some of that erosion of rights goes there too.

OTOH, there's jury duty... (2, Interesting)

Space cowboy (13680) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575868)

I've thought of it myself (given I've had a green card here for a while), but it seems every second week someone is off for jury duty over here. Back in the UK, the only person I know who was called was my dad, once, in 45 years as an adult.

Personally, I'm not sure the whole 'WooHoo, I can now vote in the US' is worth it - which seems to be the only other *practical* difference between a GC-holder, and a citizen.

Plus, IIRC, the US insist that I'd have to give up my UK citizenship/passport (although, from various friends, I've heard that the UK just send your passport back to you with a "you appear to have misplaced your passport" note :)

So, whatever floats your boat, Linus, but I don't think it's for me.

Simon.

Re:OTOH, there's jury duty... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576058)

So become a citizen and don't register to vote--in most states the jury duty pool is the population of registered voters.

Re:OTOH, there's jury duty... (1)

joelsherrill (132624) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576388)

In know in Alabama, it is from the driver's licenses since that is a larger pool.

Re:OTOH, there's jury duty... (1)

gid (5195) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576478)

In Ohio, it's registered voters. I've been called up 3 times now and I'm only 35. My father in law has never been called up and surprise surprise, he's not registered to vote.

Re:OTOH, there's jury duty... (2, Interesting)

Mongoose Disciple (722373) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576182)

Hey, jury duty is important.

Smart people are smart enough to get out of jury duty if they want to, but ask yourself: if falsely accused of a crime, wouldn't I want someone on the jury to be at least as smart as me?

Re:OTOH, there's jury duty... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576466)

Hey, jury duty is important.

Smart people are smart enough to get out of jury duty if they want to, but ask yourself: if falsely accused of a crime, wouldn't I want someone on the jury to be at least as smart as me?

Wrong. Assholes may be smart enough to avoid fulfilling their obligation as a citizen to participate in a vital part of our society. Coincidentally, I think the same assholes (liars, cheaters, scammers) should be physically and emotionally punished in public.

Re:OTOH, there's jury duty... (4, Funny)

GNUALMAFUERTE (697061) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576484)

Yeah, what I actually don't understand is why he went to live in the states. I mean, he's from fucking Finland. It's a fucking awesome country, and it's surrounded by Sweden (Tits), Norway (Awesomest place on earth, full of church-burners), and Russia (Best women on earth). So, he left an amazing country with a huge cultural heritage and an educated population in Europe, to go the New Rome, land of mcdonalds? That sounds like a stupid move to me.

He can do whatever he wants... (2, Funny)

Qubit (100461) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575874)

In that post he also expresses dislike for the American style of politics in which he will now be able to participate directly."

...but just don't email the POTUS and call him a p***k!

So, now he's ready (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33575890)

to have his BMI and IQ numbers interchanged.

Matti (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33575928)

"Tekemätöntä ei saa tekemättömäksi" -- Matti Nykänen

trust me, a lot of born citizens feels the same (1)

Nadaka (224565) | more than 3 years ago | (#33575948)

I can't stand American politics.

All the good stuff is made by Americans (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33575976)

  I knew all the good stuff was invented by Americans.

"he will now be able to participate directly"? (1)

AdmiralXyz (1378985) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576054)

Oh you poor, stupid bastard Linus.

Tax purposes (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576126)

My mother did the US citizen thing, because my parents' lawyer advised her to do that. Something about taxing inheritance more on foreigners, or something like that.

Maybe he ran in to a similar situation?

See? Eurofaggots (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576186)

See? Eurofaggots. Your smartest know what's the best country on Earth.

However, keep whining about how great the EU is and how much the US sucks.

He took (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576218)

ur jerbs!

Atleast he plans to vote (3, Funny)

HockeyPuck (141947) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576240)

In the last US presidential election only about 60% [gmu.edu] of the people eligible to vote, actually did. However, I bet a much greater number of people complained about the president/candidates. I remember reading somewhere that even though Hollywood (Puff Daddy etc..) started the whole "Vote of Die" campaign to get young people (age 18-24) to vote, approximately 1 in 10 actually did.

I always tell people, if you didn't vote in in the election, don't complain.

Re:Atleast he plans to vote (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576456)

Perhaps in some of those who didn't vote there are some who feel that the two options that are given are not enough, and are really the same thing in the end.

huh (0, Flamebait)

nomadic (141991) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576278)

In that post he also expresses dislike for the American style of politics in which he will now be able to participate directly.

Then move back to Finland.

What about Tove? (1)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576430)

Is she also becoming a US citizen? And if so, will she have her Finnish karate title revoked?

But in any event, welcome to the US, Linus, but you've shown you can kick butt anywhere in the world.

Stupid and Ugly (1)

magma (649021) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576446)

For some reason this reminded me of one of his quotes, "Democrats are stupid and ugly." No wait, maybe that was "CVS users" Well, no matter, they're probably the same anyways.

Citizenship Test (5, Funny)

Ukab the Great (87152) | more than 3 years ago | (#33576472)

Quizzer: what are the three branches of government?

Linus: Why have three branches? I'd do a git merge legislative executive judiciary into a single monolithic government over which I'm benevolent dictator. Screw those crazy microgovernment people!

USA citizen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576480)

correction he became a USA citizen. He'll never be an American. Only people born in the American continent can be Americans.

WTF was he smoking?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33576532)

He WANTED to become a citizen? HERE!!??

Good God, this is the equivalent of a black man actively petitioning to become a citizen of South Africa BEFORE apartheid was legally abolished, or an open practitioner of Judaism trying to join the Nazi SS, or, or, or, an Arab-American actually freaking voting for freaking Sara Palin for President!

Has he finally, completely, utterly, lost his mind!!???

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