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Stewart and Colbert Plan Competing D.C. Rallies

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the power-of-the-internet dept.

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Lev13than writes "In a direct retort to Glenn Beck's Restoring Honor rally, Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert have announced competing rallies on October 30th. Stewart plans to host a 'Rally To Restore Sanity' on Oct. 30 on the National Mall in D.C. for the Americans he says are too busy living normal, rational lives to attend other political demonstrations. Colbert, meantime, will shepherd his fans in a 'March To Keep Fear Alive.' 'Damn your reasonableness!' Colbert said. 'Now is not the time to take it down a notch. Now is the time for all good men to freak out for freedom!' Stewart, meanwhile, has promised to provide attendees with signs featuring slogans such as 'I Disagree With You But I'm Pretty Sure You're Not Hitler' and 'I'm Afraid of Spiders.'"

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696 comments

Why? (-1, Troll)

_spider_ (171782) | more than 3 years ago | (#33635910)

Why is this on Slashdot? Is there no place left that politics has no grasp? These guys aren't even funny anymore.

Re:Why? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33636152)

Try not to take the "I'm afraid of Spiders" thing too seriously".

Re:Why? (2, Insightful)

spun (1352) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636434)

I think not finding the Daily Show or Stephen Colbert funny says a lot more about the critic than it says about Stewert, Colbert, or their writers. I'm not saying what it says about the critic, but it sure says something. Something having to do with broomsticks and bodily orifices.

Kudos (5, Insightful)

Veggiesama (1203068) | more than 3 years ago | (#33635938)

Kudos to you, Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.

You make my world seem slightly less irrational with each and every day.

Re:Kudos (5, Informative)

Veggiesama (1203068) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636016)

Also, Rally to Restore Sanity [rallytorestoresanity.com]

Also, Keep Fear Alive [keepfearalive.com]

Also, I love you, Jon (with one H).

Re:Kudos (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33636068)

I occasionally watch Stewart and Colbert, but mostly Stewart because I find him a little less predictable. Colbert's routine is starting to wear a bit thin. I am not a big Bill O'reilly fan but basing your whole existence on lampooning Bill O'Reilly is getting stale. I do wonder how much acclaim and praise these two would get if they were constantly poking fun at the other side. Instead of spending an hour joking about Sarah Palin and Rand Paul. How about Henry Waxman, Nancy Pelosi or Obama? Do you think there might be some rich material there?

Honestly, how hard would be for anyone to run a video clip of a public figure (either side) followed by a long pause with a straight face and make fun of them. My point is, the audiences of these shows are mostly young liberal and uninformed. Their audience aren't concerned about things like big government because most of them pay no taxes. Try audience replacing his studio audience with middle aged tax payers or people working two jobs to pay their mortgage and see how funny they are!

Re:Kudos (5, Insightful)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636178)

Instead of spending an hour joking about Sarah Palin and Rand Paul. How about Henry Waxman, Nancy Pelosi or Obama?

Yeah, you're right... they never lampoon those guys... ::rollseyes::

Hell, this rally has been specifically billed as non-partisan, with their message directed at anyone and everyone who would shriek and yell, frighten and intimidate in order to achieve their agenda, whether they be in the media or a politician, left-wing or right.

Re:Kudos (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33636250)

Glenn Beck's rally was billed as nonpartisan too.

Re:Kudos (4, Interesting)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636326)

Uh. Good for him?

Seriously, how is that remotely relevant to the current thread of conversation, exactly? The GP strongly implied that Stewart and Colbert only attack the right on their shows, suggesting they are partisan. I illustrated that this is clearly not the case (at least not to the extent he/she is suggesting... obviously they are left-wingers, but they certainly don't pull punches if the democrats give 'em good material to work with).

You then bring up Glenn Beck for reasons I can't really fathom... so, can you explain yourself, or are you just retreating to trolling because you lost the argument?

Re:Kudos (5, Insightful)

jbeach (852844) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636612)

Clearly from your statements, you disagree with Jon Stewart and Colbert's politics. Which is your privilege. However it does seem clear to me that's what's driving you.

But this statement is pretty ridiculous:

"Their audience aren't concerned about things like big government because most of them pay no taxes. "
Got any demographics for that assumption?

But let's say that's true. Do you know how *hard* this economy is hitting those just out of high school, or college? Do you think the younger *want* to have a hard future? This is possibly the worst job market in decades. If they thought Big Government was the problem, they'd be all about getting Small Government to happen.

The people you are talking about may just have a better understanding of a) actual economics and b) history than you do - they know that:

a) government can and should step in to help American citizens in a time of economic crisis, when banks and corporations won't and
b) despite a lot of promises, no conservative President has **ever** brought America smaller government anyway

But you know, that's just a bunch of facts-y, head-y stuff. Go with your gut.

Re:Kudos (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33636632)

"I do wonder how much acclaim and praise these two would get if they were constantly poking fun at the other side. Instead of spending an hour joking about Sarah Palin and Rand Paul. How about Henry Waxman, Nancy Pelosi or Obama? Do you think there might be some rich material there?"

You have to remember that these guys are comedians. They go for the funny. Which is funnier, going after Waxman for, um, hrm....something about him being a boring career politician, or going after Rick Perry for his pro-American secessionism? Obama's stable marriage or Newt's serial philandering and concomitant "marriage is sacred" hypocrisy? Nancy Pelosi's struggle to make legislative sausage with the Blue Dogs, or the crazy train freak show of Rush Limbaugh, Michele Bachmann, Glenn Beck, Michael Steele, Andrew Breitbart, Rand Paul, Sarah Palin, Fox News, Christine O'Donnell, Carly Fiorina, Sharron Angle, Jan Brewer...well, you should get the picture. It's not that Stewart and Colbert don't go after the Democrats--they do when it's funny, and they can be merciless when they do it. It's just that the Republican Party is chock full of low-hanging crazy freak fruit begging to be picked, picked on, and made fun of.

If you want a conservative comedy show, it's been tried: Fox's 1/2 Hour News Hour [wikipedia.org] . It lasted 17 utterly unfunny episodes that even Dennis Miller couldn't help.

Re:Kudos (1, Insightful)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636460)

Bahh.
Actually I am glad to see this but Stewart never worried about being reasonable when Bush was in power.
Frankly the hero worship I see for Stewart and Colbert are just a little bit less annoying than the hero worship of Glen Beck.
Being the cynical centrist that I have become of late I think this is just their reaction to the counter swing in politics that they see coming.
On a bright note even though I thing they are both self serving talking heads I do hope it does some good.
A stabilization in the middle is better than the polarization that has been going on.

Probrem! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33635948)

Does anyone else see this as nothing more than free commercials for Comedy Central and Viacom?

I mean, I totally get the idea of a "return to normalcy" and getting people back to being rational, but JS and SC are doing the EXACT same thing they're bitching about Glen Beck doing...

Re:Probrem! (5, Insightful)

Tom (822) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636010)

but JS and SC are doing the EXACT same thing they're bitching about Glen Beck doing...

Comedy often is about doing the exact same thing - just in a context or with a small twist that reveals how ridiculous it is.

Re:Probrem! (0, Troll)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636238)

The problem with Stewart (not so much Colbert), is that too many people get their news from him, a comedian (or is he??). Stewart isn't funny most of the time, he's just as ridiculous as those he ridicules, and most of the time unintentionally so.

Take for instance his anti rally rally. Why didn't he do this when there was a Million man march, or any of the other "rallies" that have taken place by well known left leaning organizations? Oh right, because those were "serious" rallies addressing "serious concerns", while the GB rally was .. um ... too right wing for Stewart.

Stewarts just pissed because the Tea Party (and conservative libertarians) have taking the playbook from Leftwingers .THAT is why he's having the rally, it isn't about comedy at all for him. His rally is seriousness dressed up as comedy, just like his TV show. This rally only shows how petty he really is.

Now Colbert, he's making fun of Stewart just as much as he's making fun of GB. True comic genius. I wonder if Stewart get the joke. I'd go that his rally if I lived anywhere near DC.

My prediction, Stewart's rally is filled with venom and hate, directed at GB and the TeaPartiers, while Colbert's rally is fun and entertaining, poking fun at just about everyone, including Colbert.

Re:Probrem! (2, Informative)

DG (989) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636338)

You do know that Stewart and Colbert work together, right?

DG

Re:Probrem! (3, Informative)

DeKO (671377) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636624)

To be more precise, Colbert always says they are the same show, split in two half-an-hour segments. Jon Stewart is the executive producer of The Colbert Report. While Stewart's character is actually Jon Stewart, Colbert's character is Colbert (with a silent "t"), the opposite of the artist, and almost all of his lines are full of sarcasm. If you agree with Colbert (silent "t") the joke is on you.

Re:Probrem! (1)

Enderwiggin13 (734997) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636412)

Also, I'm fairly certain that although they are "competing rallies" they are actually a single rally with two headliners.

Re:Probrem! (1)

HycoWhit (833923) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636474)

You do know they planned the rallies together, right? The rallies are in the exact same place, at the same time--both will be sharing the stage... As for people getting their news from the Daily Show, Do you think those folks don't know they are turning the channel to Comedy Central? Sure they might not watch Fox, MSNBC, or whatever--but honestly, why even bother? You can get the news that interests you any time using tubes on the interwebs Heck, I hear there are even some places where people can comment back and forth over geeky news! :)

Re:Probrem! (4, Insightful)

jbeach (852844) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636480)

The problem with Stewart (not so much Colbert), is that too many people get their news from him, a comedian (or is he??).

That's not a problem with him - that's a problem with the American news media.

And then the Media wonders why they're losing to the Internet. Getting news from reliable sources on the Internet is like reading the news a day, a week or sometimes even years early. The trick is, reliable sources. But that's the trick with the mass media as well - and it is slippery to find a site that dispenses mostly facts, as opposed to mostly confirmation bias.

Re:Probrem! (4, Insightful)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636556)

Why didn't he do this when there was a Million man march, or any of the other "rallies" that have taken place by well known left leaning organizations?

Well for starters, the Million Man March was in 1995. The Daily Show didn't exist until 1996 and Jon Stewart didn't host it until 1998. So unless he has some sort of time machine, it was nigh impossible to do it at the time. As for other rallies, he's made fun of both "truther" and "tea party" rallies. Why hasn't he done an anti-rally rally? I suppose it has more to do that Glen Beck did one more than anything else.

Stewarts just pissed because the Tea Party (and conservative libertarians) have taking the playbook from Leftwingers .THAT is why he's having the rally, it isn't about comedy at all for him. His rally is seriousness dressed up as comedy, just like his TV show. This rally only shows how petty he really is.

From what I can tell he's making fun of the hypocrisy. When the liberals where having these rallies opposed to the Bush administration and the war, they were called "unpatriotic" and "un-American". Liberals were hurting America by opposing the President it was argued simply by exercising their right to free speech and protest. Now that the conservative party is no longer in power, these rallies are "expressing freedom" and "restoring honor". Problem is that they are doing the exact same things. And Stewart is making fun of that.

Re:Probrem! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33636560)

Actually Jon Stewart and his show are absolutely hilarious. Everyone knows it's satire, and everyone knows he has a political slant; he's a self-described progressive. He provides welcome comic relief to the often depressing and outrageous turn of events in this country. He has also ripped into the hypocrisies and inadequacies from his "own side," but obviously people are going to tend to see the machinations of the "other side" as more nefarious. If you want satire with a different slant, you may find something better elsewhere. Also, yes, Jon Stewart has waxed philosophical on his role as a modern-day court jester, willing to "speak truth to power" through humor, so you are right that it isn't just laughs without meaning or purpose.

Re:Probrem! (1)

lingh0e (964762) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636618)

No one who consistently watches their shows think Stewart or Colbert provide actual news. This is because the people who watch Stewart and Colbert are capable or recognizing parody and satire. It seems as thought the only people who have a problem with what they say are the people who don't like how easy it is for rational human beings with a basic ability to exercise critical thinking can deconstruct the BS being shoved in our faces by the "other" pundits and commentators. I apologize for the horrible run on sentences, but Colbert never told me how to properly use an ellipsis.

Re:Probrem! (1)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636662)

Aren't daily show watchers generally more informed on event than non-watchers? Probably because it's not funny if your completely clueless.

Also, Tea Party are social conservatives in the disguise of libertarians. Much like the constitution party.

Re:Probrem! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33636664)

Comedy often is about doing the exact same thing - just in a context or with a small twist that reveals how ridiculous it is.

To be clear, this reflects a specific type of humor/comedy, satire to be specific.

As you were.

Re:Probrem! (5, Informative)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636014)

No, they're not. John Stewart and Steven Colbert are satirizing Glen Beck. Glen Beck is serious. That's the difference. The point of this type of satire is to draw attention to the absurdity of the thing/person/event being made fun of by imitating its form and taking the ridiculous characteristics ad absurdam.

Re:Probrem! (2, Insightful)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636074)

Well, I think the point is also to get a bunch of people out to try and send a message to the politicians and the mainstream media to, as Jon put it, tone it down a notch for America.

Re:Probrem! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33636174)

Wait a minute! You mean Glenn Beck ISN'T a comedian? Have you read his book?

This changes everything!

Re:Probrem! (1, Insightful)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636244)

Stewart is just as serious at GB, he just dresses it up as Satire. Colbert is just goofy, and much more enjoyable to watch. That's the difference.

Re:Probrem! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33636450)

If you don't catch the scathing satire inherent in Colbert's shtick, you probably aren't smart enough to be watching either show.

Re:Probrem! (3, Insightful)

spun (1352) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636508)

You do realize that Colbert more fully skewers the right than Stewart does, right? Stewart is fairly non partisan. Colbert, on the other hand builds his whole shtick on mocking the right. Colbert is very serious, but he is so good at what he does that idiots on the right think he is on their side! Amazing.

Re:Probrem! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33636468)

Eh, not really.

Mr. Stewart constantly does this schtick of dressing up his serious points in ironic satire until the satire is lost and it comes off as pretension.

In reality, the Beck rally was no more cringeworthy than the Million Man March, any gay pride parade, or the Westboro Baptist Church.

Potential to backfire (1)

alta (1263) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636484)

But it appears by doing this they are drawing more attention to Beck's rally. No publicity is bad publicity. And their LIKELY small turnouts (don't expect to see a lot of people there for a prank) is just going to put more attention on how huge the Beck attendance was.

I think it's funny what their doing. I think they should talk it up on the she and get laughs, but I think if they actually go so far as to HOLD a rally and the attendance is low it's going to be spun that the right had a massive turn out (which is true), while the left is unsupported, a conclusion that can not be drawn from lack of attendance.

Re:Potential to backfire (1)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636626)

Oh do you mean the scientific analysis that put it at about 87,000 people or the "faith" based 500k numbers that the tea party likes to tout. Again, the tea party shows how little they have in common with reality.(And of course, the other tea party motto, if the facts don't match the ideology, that means the facts are wrong)

Re:Probrem! (3, Interesting)

interval1066 (668936) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636536)

"Glen Beck is serious."

I wouldn't take Beck so seriously. He's a carnival huckster who's tapped into a segment of the population who don't exactly care to tow the liberal line. So what? Beck was an alcoholic morning dj for a very lone time. He then discovered "God" and success and went the Limbaugh route. If you watch him for any length of time on his show he makes incredible, "sky is falling" assertions about crazy things he reads in the news, interviews conspiracy theory cranks, and says "Now watch this..." (referring to conspiracies and strange events around the world), and the very next night is on to some other conspiracy. And it all ends up being a big nothing. Watch him, sooner or later he'll retire, and that will be it. Then you've have some new guy (or gal) come in that you'll feel you have to be careful about. Its all a big media circus nothing designed to keep you worked up. Your best defense against these types is to simply ignore them.

Re:Probrem! (5, Funny)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636030)

I disagree with you but I'm pretty sure you're not Hitler

Re:Probrem! (2, Funny)

jameskojiro (705701) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636220)

With a sign like that you are just Stalin the inevitable...

Re:Probrem! (1)

aapold (753705) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636616)

You can't get your way via a bully polpot.

Re:Probrem! (4, Insightful)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636196)

No they're bitching that Glen Beck is doing it under the guise that his "truthful" *cough* news commentary is somehow helping America when really he's pulling all the tricks to raise his viewership. With Stewart and Colbert, they are comedians. Their shows are satire. This has never been muddled by them. What is sad is that their satire is often more informative than real news, but their intent has always been comedy.

brilliant (5, Insightful)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 3 years ago | (#33635978)

when you see the vicious, fear-addled, hysterical fearmongering and demagoguery going on in the usa, you can easily grow despondent and depressed about the future of this country

and then you see that the antidote to this vile sleaze, the ray of sunshine, is simple humor, and irony, and sarcasm

the antidote to the poisons of the lowest basest emotions and motivations from the human character are the fruits of the higher faculties, and simple cheerfulness and confidence

if the drek you see being assembled into herds of mindlessly angry propagandized partisan sheep on the far right depresses you, do not give up heart, nor give up hope: just give a good laugh, and smile, and beat the zombie horde back into the dustbin of history where they belong

Re:brilliant (0, Troll)

jameskojiro (705701) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636180)

Yeah cause the Glenn Beck rally was full of angry people throwing molotov cocktails at riot police.....

Just like a G-8 anarchist rally....

Re:brilliant (4, Insightful)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636242)

Yeah cause the Glenn Beck rally was full of angry people

Uh, it was. Frightened, angry people. Were they polite about it? Yes, and good for them. But their politics is a politics of fear, whether it be fear of the Big Bad Government, fear of muslims, fear of gays, fear of latinos...

And incidentally, its worth noting that Glenn and his cohorts actively discouraged inflammatory signs and so forth, for fear of the bad press they would generate... who knows what that rally would've been like if the organizers hadn't gone out of their way to temper the reaction of their followers.

Just like a G-8 anarchist rally

Yeah, those guys are enormous douchbags, too. What's your point?

Re:brilliant (2, Insightful)

jbeach (852844) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636330)

Yeah, those guys are enormous douchbags, too. What's your point? [snark]Don't you know that if someone does something awful and stupid you disagree with, that *automatically* means the awful, stupid behavior you agree with was okay? [/snark]

Re:brilliant (1)

Pharmboy (216950) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636532)

But their politics is a politics of fear,

And we live in America, where they have the right to express themselves. Rest assured, the majority of Americans are either going to work, or looking for work, and don't have time for panicking or freaking out like a few celeb's and their dominions. Most Americans just want a decent job and time with the family. Throw in reasonable taxes and gas prices, most everyone is happy. The freakshow on TV is a very small minority.

politics is about perception (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636650)

a small vocal minority can ram through its agenda by being the craziest, loudest, most passionate in your face types around

the tragedy of our existence is yes, just as you say, the majority of people are too busy leaving quiet, good lives to be bothered with this nonsense. unfortunately, the lives of this vast majority of quiet and good can be made more difficult by a small committed group who do not represent their interests, but the interests of whatever demagogue whips them into a frenzy

Re:brilliant (1)

CosmeticLobotamy (155360) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636270)

I don't believe the OP used any form of the word "violence" in his post. You don't have to start swinging your fists to be horrible.

Re:brilliant (-1, Troll)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636302)

>>>when you see the vicious, fear-addled, hysterical fearmongering and demagoguery going on in the usa,

Please.

There's no need to insult our two most-recent presidents.

Re:brilliant (1)

FauxPasIII (75900) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636492)

> There's no need to insult our two most-recent presidents.

I disagree wholeheartedly.

Re:brilliant (1)

spun (1352) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636580)

Quick question, simple question. When has Obama descended into fear mongering? Please, I'd love a quote, something definitive to point to as an example of his fear mongering. Anything will do, but it has to be in context.

John Stewart rocks! (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33635984)

He is my hero. Intelligent, sophisticated, funny and always hits the spot.

Go John! Kick Glenn's retarded butt.

Re:John Stewart rocks! (1)

ezzzD55J (697465) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636064)

Jon.

Re:John Stewart rocks! (1)

jameskojiro (705701) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636156)

Don't you mean Jonathan Leibowitz?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Stewart [wikipedia.org]

The guy hates his own name and his proud heritage.

Re:John Stewart rocks! (2, Insightful)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636354)

The guy hates his own name and his proud heritage.

If he hated his heritage, I doubt he'd refer to jews as 'my people' quite so often. It seems more likely that he has a realistic estimation of the great American public's ability to pronounce and spell Leibowitz. That, or he's worried about being confused with the guy with the canticle...

Re:John Stewart rocks! (1)

jbeach (852844) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636388)

Because he changed his name, you say he hates his proud heritage?

That's an awful lot to assume there. He mentions he's Jewish all the time, never seems to be ashamed of it. I think you are projecting a lot onto him. I personally think him picking a different name might have more to do with his father dumping his mother for a secretary when he was young - but that's just a theory, and I wouldn't go saying "Jon Stewart hates his father" either.

Re:John Stewart rocks! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33636550)

Could just as easily be a SAG card issue.

Captcha: ruefully. Ha!

Re:John Stewart rocks! (3, Insightful)

DrgnDancer (137700) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636604)

The guy hates his own name and his proud heritage.

Where do you get that? Lots of showbiz people change their names to something they think will be easier to remember or increase their chances to be successful. In his case, the very entry you link suggests he probably did it because he doesn't get along with his father. He's never hidden his Jewish heritage and it features prominently in several bits I've seen him do (and I don't even watch the show much).

Re:John Stewart rocks! (1)

DriedClexler (814907) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636628)

Yeah! Damn him for not being proud of his heritage! Real Americans are *proud* of their heritage! Like me! I'm SO proud of it!

*burns cross while displaying massive Confederate flag*

It's about HERITAGE, not hate! Promise!

Not a single moderate will attend (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33636022)

How can you call it a march for moderates when the only person who has every voted for a Republican will be the lone comedy reporter from Fox News?

Talk about misleading.

Re:Not a single moderate will attend (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636086)

I don't think there will be a lot of people there myself: "But why don't we hear from the 70-80 percenters? Well, most likely, because you have shit to do." --Jon Stewart

Re:Not a single moderate will attend (1)

jameskojiro (705701) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636138)

A CYA comment by Stewart.

Re:Not a single moderate will attend (3, Insightful)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636246)

Stewart never said that in context to the rally. He said a few days before about why there is a lack of opinion from the majority of Americans and how it is only a small percentage on both sides that are directing the tone of any debates. His entire quote was:

But why don't we hear from the 70-80 percenters? Well, most likely, because you have shit to do. And quite frankly, even if you didn't have shit to do, you may lack the theatrical flair necessary for today's 24 hour a day, 7 day a week news media.

Re:Not a single moderate will attend (1)

jbeach (852844) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636430)

And if this rally is bigger than Beck's fest, what will that mean?

Re:Not a single moderate will attend (1)

DogDude (805747) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636464)

"I don't think there will be a lot of people there myself:"

My anecdotal evidence shows that a lot will, attend, really. I'm going and a lot of people that I know will be going, too. It'll just be 2-3 hours on a Saturday afternoon, and whatever happens, I'm sure it'll be funny as hell.

Re:Not a single moderate will attend (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636606)

Sadly, I don't live on the east coast, so it would be a long journey for me to go. I encourage anyone who goes to post pictures of the signs on the interweb/series of tubes.

Re:Not a single moderate will attend (1)

euroq (1818100) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636476)

How can you call it a march for moderates when the only person who has every voted for a Republican will be the lone comedy reporter from Fox News?

What do you think the definition of a "moderate" is? People who vote for Republicans? Or a crowd that is 50% Democrat voters and 50% Republican voters?

If so, you've missed the point. What he seems to be thinking "moderate" is the people who may disagree with some politicians, but wouldn't call them Hitler.

Re:Not a single moderate will attend (1)

HycoWhit (833923) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636596)

Actually--moderates are folks that tell pollsters and in-your-face Republicans that they support the Republican buffoonery and then vote Democratic in the booth...

no permit yet (3, Insightful)

slshwtw (1903272) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636036)

The article doesn't mention the fact that the organizers have yet to be granted a permit [cbsnews.com] for the joint rally. Also it should be noted that if granted (which is likely), the "million moderate march" will be limited to no more than 25,000 people, per the permit application.

Re:no permit yet (1)

euroq (1818100) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636078)

Guessing numbers is a dangerous game. The Million Man March had somewhere between 300,000 - 400,000 people at their rally, and the D.C. parks and monuments organization were sued by the promoters of the event. Now they no longer measure numbers.

Re:no permit yet (1)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636118)

And they've also got a month to get the paperwork sorted out. Seems like CBS digging for a non-story.

Re:no permit yet (1)

Conspiracy_Of_Doves (236787) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636122)

"These three groups, have listed on their permit applications that they will generate 25,000 people for their event," said the official, emphasizing that that is the groups' estimate and that number is in no way associated with The National Park Service.

WTF is wrong with your reading comprehension skills?

Re:no permit yet (4, Informative)

norminator (784674) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636192)

As I understand it, the permits aren't normally granted until just before the event anyway, no matter how far in advance you start setting it up. By the time you've jumped through the other hoops, the actual permit is more of a formality. It was the same way for Beck's rally.

Re:no permit yet (1)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636216)

Also it should be noted that if granted (which is likely), the "million moderate march" will be limited to no more than 25,000 people, per the permit application.

So, about the same number of people who showed up to Glen Beck's 'million man' rally.

Re:no permit yet (2, Insightful)

ceejayoz (567949) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636410)

Limited? What, they're going to wall off the National Mall and block the 25,001st person to attempt to enter?

That isn't likley to be a problem (1)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636534)

Please remember that these guys are backed up by Viacom. That is who ultimately owns the shows. They are on board with this, of course (wouldn't have gone out on the air otherwise) because it will generate a ton of advertising. TDS and TCR are two of Comedy Central's most popular shows. They love an idea like this.

Well guess what? Media companies like that have plenty of lawyers, publicists, and so on who know what needs to be done to make all this happen.

They'll get their permit.

LOLZ (0, Troll)

jameskojiro (705701) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636126)

"Stewart, meanwhile, has promised to provide attendees with signs"

You mean just like a union rally where the sloganeering is handled not by the people attending but the people rallying them up....

How original.

Re:LOLZ (3, Interesting)

CosmeticLobotamy (155360) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636188)

It's not mandated. You're free to bring your own signs, but they'll have some if you're not funny. And thank God for that, because most people are not funny. Sadly, people that aren't funny and people that think they're not funny have a very small overlap on the Venn diagram, so we'll still be forced to read some very unfunny things.

Re:LOLZ (-1)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636344)

>>>You're free to bring your own signs

Really?

Cool.

"R or D - they both suck."

Re:LOLZ (2, Insightful)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636364)

I don't know if you've seen some of the Tea Party protest signs but they were funny but in a sad sort of way. Half of them hinted their owners didn't use a dictionary.

Re:LOLZ (3, Informative)

Volante3192 (953645) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636210)

Apparently you didn't see the signs in question.

Re:LOLZ (2, Insightful)

brusk (135896) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636278)

You mean just like a union rally where the sloganeering is handled not by the people attending but the people rallying them up....

Yes. Also the way Tea Party rallies provide signs to attendees, and the way political party conferences provide signs .... pretty much the way all political rallies work in the US nowadays. What did you expect? if you're going to mock something this way, you'd better provide a reasonable facsimile.

Who? (-1, Offtopic)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636166)

I don't have Cable and have noo idea who these two men are .

Re:Who? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33636276)

Have you heard of google? I think you'll be amazed at what it can be used for.

Also, shut up.

Re:Who? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33636322)

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Jon+Stewart
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Stephen+Colbert

Re:Who? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33636348)

Given that the summary doesn't say they're on cable it seems likely that you do have an idea.

Re:Who? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33636398)

I dont have cable either, I live in New Zealand but i still know who these two men are. Maybe you need to learn how to use this thing called "The Internet".

Re:Who? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33636530)

He can't. He's still using a Commodore 64.

Re:Who? (4, Insightful)

Duradin (1261418) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636406)

But you do apparently have the internet, through which one can view their shows.

For someone who trots out his "I don't watch TV and therefore am better than you" sign as often as you do you either are very bad at doing feigned ignorance well or are doing willful ignorance very well.

Re:Who? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33636514)

I don't have cable. And I live in Australia. But I've watched their shows several times. It's fun to watch these shows because it's fun to observe how idiotic the american political system is. But the fact these guys exist is also reassuring that the (formerly) most powerful country in the world hasn't completely lost the plot.

Old (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33636240)

What is with all the frontpage articles that were shown everywhere else online 3 days ago.. Stewart and Colbert made their announcement on Thursday night

Summary (1)

clinko (232501) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636260)

I'll summarize the comments on this article:

* I'm right
* No your not
* YOU'RE!

liberal pussies (-1, Flamebait)

z-j-y (1056250) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636266)

hiding behind the so called comedy. and slashdot wanting to be digg

Re:liberal pussies (1)

Beerdood (1451859) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636416)

I disagree with you, and I'm pretty sure that's something Hitler would say.

This sort of thing can backfire. (1, Insightful)

blcss (886739) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636370)

Sometimes satire ends up revealing more about the satirist than the target. And if the public turns out to be on the target's side, then the satirist ends up being perceived as mean-spirited and out of touch. Satire always draws blood, it's just a question of whose.

Never forget that Air America was a dismal failure.

Re:This sort of thing can backfire. (1)

Enderwiggin13 (734997) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636498)

Jon Stewart's been going strong on The Daily Show for 11 years now. Not to say that it will never backfire, but it hasn't so far.

Riiiiiight (0, Flamebait)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636638)

Because these shows have backfired so badly. They are some little public access pieces nobody has ever heard of. They don't have millions of nightly views and aren't top rated shows on Comedy Central.

Oh, wait, its the other way around on that.

They are very successful satirists, and this is just more of what they do.

Because we've all got shit to do ... :) (3, Informative)

Gopal.V (532678) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636386)

The Jon Stewart announcement (and pre-announcements) were really funny. Not to karma whore, but the clip [thedailyshow.com] should've been in TFA.

Love them for not doing the not-from-our-country crap. Probably the only newstertainment show I watch from the US for the same reason.

Let's get our political opinions from entertainers (3, Interesting)

hessian (467078) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636562)

What do Beck, Stewart and Colbert have in common?

They're entertainers, not political scientists.

I don't want actors writing mission critical code for our spacecraft, and by the same token, we the voters shouldn't get our opinions from people who are paid to make us laugh, not make us see truth.

If you want to know what's wrong with democracy in America, it's that a huge mass of useful idiots (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot) are voting wherever their emotional impulses lead them, at the behest of a few privileged media elites.

That's not politics, it's mob rule.

Stewart & Colbert fans the silent majority? (1)

boyzscout (603094) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636644)

I'd like to think that fans of Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert are the silent majority in America. But when you watch mainstream news it's difficult to tell because their pundits keeping whipping the extreme left and right into a frenzy. This silent majority knows how ridiculous guys like Glenn Beck really are and know that these blowhards are just doing what they do for ratings. At least a guy can hope...

Credit where credit is due... (2, Insightful)

Simulant (528590) | more than 3 years ago | (#33636648)

You can thank Reddit for this.
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