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Microsoft Says IE9 Beta Demand Overwhelming

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the boardwalk-and-park-place dept.

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cgriffin21 writes "Microsoft expected Internet Explorer 9 to be popular, but after more than two million people downloaded the IE9 beta in the first two days after its release, the software giant is having a hard time choosing which eye-popping statistics to cite. Microsoft says its "Beauty of the Web" site, which illustrates the aesthetic advantages of IE9's support for HTML5 and hardware acceleration, has had more the 9 million visits and 26 million page views since the IE9 beta launch on Sept. 15. Microsoft's developer-oriented IE Test Drive Site has had 4 million page views during the same period."

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Lipstick on a pig (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33661866)

Our previous versions sucked so bad that...

Geez (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33661868)

U get one thing right and u won't shut up about it

Not suprising (4, Funny)

Tolleman (606762) | more than 3 years ago | (#33661874)

Everyone just had to see if they were actually doing a browser without the retarded gene.

Re:Not suprising (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33662552)

Probably mostly designers and Javascript coders who wanted to see in advance which non-standard adjustments they would have to make this time so stuff that works in every other major browser isn't screwed up by IE again.

I can only assume (0, Flamebait)

somersault (912633) | more than 3 years ago | (#33661882)

That this is being pushed by automatic updates then? And that you are given the option to view the "Beauty of the Web" site on first run or something?

Just like Silverlight is for some reason an option and selected by default when you try to install Windows Messenger.

Re:I can only assume (4, Informative)

nullifi (1085947) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662004)

No, it's not being pushed, believe it or not people do have to download it. Although, you are correct in that the "Beauty of the Web" is the first page it loads up to.

Re:I can only assume (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33662054)

Today you have to download it. I'm sure, just like previous iterations, that this will eventually be a pushed patch.

Re:I can only assume (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33662266)

It wont be pushed. It'll be listed on Windows Update as an essential security patch and your PC will be at risk without it.
Because its a new package and not an upgrade of IE8 it'll overwrite your default apps or maybe ask something like 'Do you want
your internet browsing to be faster/safer/shinier/more productive and compatible?' with small print saying it might screw things
up or lose passwords/settings but these are the fault of your old browser.

Re:I can only assume (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33662756)

You are at risk using IE.

It will still be the browser with the worst security and the worst standards compliance.

And MS will push it and claim it is popular.

Re:I can only assume (3, Interesting)

insufflate10mg (1711356) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662906)

When are people going to grow up and admit MS has released several top-of-the-line products recently? IE is getting much nicer, especially with 9, and Windows 7 blows away any other OS available, except for certain *nix distributions for specific reasons. Likewise, if you would actually give the .NET framework and its associated languages a try you may find yourself impressed with the capabilities.

I guess I just feel like people should upgrade and quit whining like we're still in the early 00's. Technology advances, and with it comes a need for stronger hardware and new programming frameworks.

Re:I can only assume (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33663292)

Windows 7 blows away any other OS available

It is much better for games and viewing HD content.
It is only better for drivers because of Microsoft/**AA interference (like tilt bits).
It looks a bit prettier than Linux but not as pretty as OSx.
Application support is better on windows but hardly blows others away. Linux/oSx can do 95% of things just as well as Win7.
Security on Win7 is still a way behind all the other major operating systems.
It blows others away on cost of ownership. Linux/osX cant compete with the extra hardware needed for all the Win7 bloat.

Likewise, if you would actually give the .NET framework and its associated languages a try you may find yourself impressed with the capabilities.

Likewise, if you would actually give [Linux/Osx/Sticking your head in the sand/Solaris/BSD/WinXP/I cant believe its not butter] a try you may find yourself impressed with the capabilities.

I guess I just feel like people should upgrade and quit whining like we're still in the early 00's.

Most people need a reason to upgrade and wont do it just because its there or some marketing droid tells them to.

Technology advances, and with it comes a need for stronger hardware and new programming frameworks.

When old frameworks work perfectly well often with better security and the new frameworks are mostly being
pushed to aid vendor lock-in there is little reason to use them.

Re:I can only assume (0, Troll)

Sarten-X (1102295) | more than 3 years ago | (#33663314)

I'll admit it when it's true.

I find Windows 7 to be thoroughly mediocre. Sure, it's got a lot of shine, but it's broken a few of my old programs, and doesn't offer anything new and useful to me.

I find .NET to be thoroughly abominable. It's a forced-standard version of the Windows API, working in the Windows way, and requiring distribution headaches to get applications to run anywhere. Don't even get me started on XNA. C# is a mockery of language design, where the statement "x = x;" can do absolutely anything, and it's not obviously magic.

I guess I just feel that Microsoft was once riding on its high horse, then it got distracted and fell off. Now it's in the process of dusting off, and perhaps someday it'll ride again. Meanwhile, everyone else has gone on ahead.

Re:I can only assume (1)

nstlgc (945418) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662882)

And that's a good thing, no?

Re:I can only assume (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33662140)

1.5 million downloads were done by script kiddies and hackers hoping to find security holes.

Re:I can only assume (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33662666)

Dont forget Microsoft pays a lot of bloggers/news sites to give it glowing reviews and make comparisons to sliced bread
and things. It wouldn't surprise me if they paid sites to promote positive reviews using Google AdWords.

Re:I can only assume (3, Interesting)

Vectormatic (1759674) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662674)

i just gave beautyoftheweb.com two hits, one from chrome, in which all worked fine, but the fonts/scaling was borked to give me horrible alliased text, another in IE8 produced correct text, but all nice visual effects where gone, and surprise, all moving effects slowed to a crawl...

Re:I can only assume (5, Interesting)

Solidblu (241490) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662744)

Actually I think this number not completely honest. 6 Days ago Microsoft because a sponsor of Reddit and asked the Reddit community to test it out and give feed back.

"See, Microsoft is getting ready to release Internet Explorer 9, and they reached out to us because they genuinely want to start a dialog with the reddit community. In fact, they've taken the unprecedented step of putting the reddit team in charge of this entire campaign. This is a great deal of trust for an advertiser to offer, and we should both take it as a huge compliment."

http://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/depct/and_now_for_a_word_from_our_sponsor_because_for/ [reddit.com]

Re:I can only assume (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662918)

They probably did something similar with other tech sites too. Well, you certainly can't criticise Microsoft's marketing department..

Re:I can only assume (1)

DeathFromSomewhere (940915) | more than 3 years ago | (#33663026)

People testing out a beta? You don't say...

Good to see (2, Insightful)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 3 years ago | (#33661884)

I for one am happy to see IE becoming competitve again. It is good to have more than one viable alternative out there.

Good to See (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33661990)

You're right with that, but i just hope that IE would be as light as its other competitors asbestos attorneys [theasbestosattorney.com]

Re:Good to See (0, Offtopic)

SimonTheSoundMan (1012395) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662360)

Having asbestos removed from my soffits on my house right now. House is being covered to make one huge hypobaric chamber. Oh the fun!

Don't ask how much it is costing to get it removed. :S

Re:Good to see (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#33661996)

Agreed. Not sure why people are seeing this as a bad thing...

Re:Good to see (3, Informative)

Jorl17 (1716772) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662134)

Because it belongs to Microsoft. Don't you know they're EVIL?

Re:Good to see (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33662734)

More like the ghosts of IE6.
It will be a long time until the mere mention of Internet Explorer won't instantly evoke memories of that useless pile of crap.

Re:Good to see (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33662332)

Because Microsoft have a long history of not properly following standards and even screwing up by doing something completely different than everybody else instead.

If you don't see this as a potentially bad thing, you've never had to code around IE's CSS and rendering bugs.

Re:Good to see (1, Insightful)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662436)

Wait...so you're saying that, in light of the other things you listed, Microsoft focusing on making things run smoother and work better with web standards is a bad thing?

Re:Good to see (2, Insightful)

Vectormatic (1759674) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662770)

well, given past performance, it is quite reasonable to assume that somehow IE-9 will be borked up in some way, some odd rendering bug or something.. in that light, MS introducing IE 9 means all those poor web-devs will now have to support 'standard rendering' + IE 6-7-8-9 instead of just 'standard rendering' + IE 6-7-8.

i would prefer it if IE6 would be killed off once and for all though.. fucker needs to DIE

(and no, i dont think MS releasing IE9 is negative, i wont be using it, but i dont mind)

Re:Good to see (2, Insightful)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#33663658)

It's not standards compliant at least not completely. If you got to beautyoftheweb.com [slashdot.org] they specifically say that it works with all modern browsers but not as beautifully on browsers other than IE9. I couldn't let me copy the text.

Re:Good to see (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33662458)

lol

dickhead

Re:Good to see (5, Funny)

jazman_777 (44742) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662082)

Absolutely. Someone needs to put the pressure on the near-monopoly that Firefox/Opera/Chrome/etc. has.

Re:Good to see (4, Interesting)

MonsterTrimble (1205334) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662088)

I for one am happy to see IE becoming competitve again. It is good to have more than one viable alternative out there.

Highlights mine.

What do you define as a viable alternative? Firefox, Opera & Chrome have been around for quite a while and they all have been eating IE's lunch. By a lot of accounts, the big story is that IE9 is a radical departure from IE7/8 and has made major strides in catching up but it's not there yet.

Personally, I hope IE9 gets pushed out tomorrow. At work I'm stuck using IE8 and I would love to have something which approaches the Opera browser I use at home.

Re:Good to see (1)

characterZer0 (138196) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662300)

Firefox, Opera & Chrome have been around for quite a while and they all have been eating IE's lunch.

Most statistics have IE with a bit over 50% of the market.

Re:Good to see (3, Informative)

StuartHankins (1020819) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662598)

... and it used to be 90%. There's been a large shift to other browsers over the past few years. That is significant.

Re:Good to see (2, Insightful)

Vectormatic (1759674) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662804)

which used to be 95% just a few years back...

if losing half the markt in ~5 years isnt getten your lunch eaten, then i dont know what is

Re:Good to see (0, Troll)

idamaybrown (584881) | more than 3 years ago | (#33663158)

Someone uses Opera? Well, it's at least more popular than Sleipnir....

Re:Good to see (4, Informative)

gravis777 (123605) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662374)

Completely agree. I also like to see MS trying something new. The new UI is sweet, and this is FREAKIN FAST on my dual-core laptop with Win7. I haven't installed on the 6-core desktop yet, because its still rather buggy (several text fields on Facebook refuse to work), but I guess it wouldn't really matter, I still am a pretty big Firefox user and have it set to the default browser.

I was in shock with the HTML5 and the speed increase from going to GPU. Their Beauty of the Web pages are jawdropping, and I think this is REALLY going to change the web forever. I would have to say this (GPU accelleration and HTML5) is probably the biggest thing to hit the web since Flash / Shockwave came out 12 or 13 years ago.

I also like the increase in real-estate when browsing. Yes, I know I can turn my other browsers into fullscreen mode, but then I loose the address and search bars.

Actually, is it just me, or did IE9 practically copy Chrome's interface?

Re:Good to see (1)

DarkXale (1771414) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662790)

I also like the increase in real-estate when browsing. Yes, I know I can turn my other browsers into fullscreen mode, but then I loose the address and search bars.

Actually, is it just me, or did IE9 practically copy Chrome's interface?

Chrome and Opera should be easily configurable to take up the same space as IE.

I did a quick comparison now, and IE takes up 60 vertical pixels for its UI, while Opera takes 62. Worth to note though Opera's (which is very similar to Chrome) method leaves a lot more room for tabs, and it maintains the dedicated address and search bars. For most people though, that makes little difference, and it certainly does look cleaner.

Firefox is a bit more of a mess here though - it does require some heavier use of addons to get it down to the same size, and doing so may sometimes cause other compatibility problems.

Re:Good to see (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33662608)

last time MS became competitive with IE, all other browsers disappeared and, with that done, MS did nothing with their browser internet for around 10 years afterwards, stifling the development of the internet and the deployment of open standards.

if you use the internet, this is NOT a good thing.

Re:Good to see (1)

jafiwam (310805) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662754)

If by "becoming competitive again" you mean "stomp the ever loving shit out of IE6 until it dies and goes away"....

Right there with ya.

If it takes IE9 to do that, so be it.

Re:Good to see (1)

DarkXale (1771414) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662826)

Unfortunately just about the only damn thing that can kill IE6 is if all the custom work-environment apps for it go away.

What a _HIDEOUS_ website (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33661886)

Highlighting a bunch of words in your article as hotlinks, and then just sending them to other stories, instead of the stuff you're writing about is pretty bloody annoying.

Right, I'll go to MS myself for this information instead then, shall I?

Hmmph.

Early start (4, Funny)

halcyon1234 (834388) | more than 3 years ago | (#33661888)

Two million malware distributors want an early start on the game...

Re:Early start (2, Insightful)

MahariBalzitch (902744) | more than 3 years ago | (#33661974)

The way malware seems to work so seemlessly with IE, you would think the malware distributors were on the IE development team.

Re:Early start (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33662352)

skynet IS the virus!

Re:Early start (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662830)

Where do you think all those programmers that were working for Claria went?

What a shocker! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33661894)

Maybe ppl are tired of the old and crappy IE?

26 Million views in 6 days... (2, Funny)

gimmebeer (1648629) | more than 3 years ago | (#33661908)

... insert "must not be running on IIS..." joke here.

Backwards compatability? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33661928)

The main thing with me is does IE9 deal well with IE8 plug-ins?

Someone notify Dimitri (1)

js3 (319268) | more than 3 years ago | (#33661936)

I would love to see his reaction to this

Beauty of the web (4, Funny)

Drakkenmensch (1255800) | more than 3 years ago | (#33661950)

Now I can go on 4chan and view the full beauty of... oh god is that an anthropomorphic hermaphrodite squirrel orgy?!?

Re:Beauty of the web (1)

gbjbaanb (229885) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662052)

I know 4chan is notorious for internet jokes, but getting their members to go download IE9 just to make IE look popular again is a bit much, even for them!

Re:Beauty of the web (1)

DarkXale (1771414) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662214)

Now I can go on 4chan and view the full beauty of... oh god is that an anthropomorphic hermaphrodite squirrel orgy?!?

Of all the million things, you use the one thing that even riles 4chan up!

first see then believe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33661958)

we have seen "Microsoft Statistics" when Vista came out.. The sales was good and happy customers, In reality.......................

keeping up with the jones' (4, Insightful)

Sprouticus (1503545) | more than 3 years ago | (#33661984)

Say what you want about IE's history (and lets face it, the jokes that come to mind are bountiful), but with Firefox and chrome pushing them that Microsoft has again started pushing IE development. Im not happy about that because I want IE to dominate, but because it keeps ALL the vendors honest.

Say it with me, competition is GOOD.

Obligatory (2, Interesting)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662024)

Say it with me, competition is GOOD.

Unless it threatens a brand you like or comes from a brand you don't like.
(the general "you", not "you, Sprouticus")

Re:keeping up with the jones' (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33662170)

Say it with me, competition is GOOD.

It is, pity Microsoft are such a bunch of paranoid little shits that they go to such extreme and illegal lengths to destroy their competitors.

IE9, the Microsoft browser that isn't a decade behind. R&D courtesy of Apple, Google, Mozilla and Opera -- that's the real triumph.

Compete on Linux and OS X too please (2, Interesting)

tizan (925212) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662450)

Why not one for Linux or Mac too....Why compete on your turf only ?

Re:Compete on Linux and OS X too please (0)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662528)

Because its so coupled with Direct X that its pretty impossible to port.

Also , it might be a means of drawing people back to microsoft - What will microsoft gain if they have a Linux version? Aside from the hostile territory they're starting off in...

Re:Compete on Linux and OS X too please (2, Interesting)

smash (1351) | more than 3 years ago | (#33663204)

Because there are plenty of alternatives on other platforms. There are plenty of alternatives on windows as well, but "IE" has become a platform in itself, due to the prevalence of shitty microsoft-HTML sites in corporate intranets. Currently the only browser that deals with the corporate intranet AND the internet without needing 2 browsers is IE. And its shit.

If you're on an open platform and don't use microsoft corporate intranet websites, you have no need for IE.

Re:keeping up with the jones' (1)

Guppy06 (410832) | more than 3 years ago | (#33663128)

"Say it with me, competition is GOOD."

Remember that, when it comes to browsers, especially Microsoft's, it's less about competing products and more about competing standards. Having to craft a website that works in IE separately from one that works in everything else isn't good for anybody but Microsoft.

Re:keeping up with the jones' (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33663224)

Say what you want about IE's history (and lets face it, the jokes that come to mind are bountiful)

You know what's better than using IE6?

Not being retarded.

IE 9 is actually good? (1)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662008)

I must find out for myself!

ie9.downloadAmount++;

Re:IE 9 is actually good? (1)

cybrthng (22291) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662092)

Its great for a beta.. just keep in mind it will crash and act up everyonce in a while.

Re:IE 9 is actually good? (1)

Missing.Matter (1845576) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662248)

It crashes constantly on my machine. Windows 7 64 bit. The very first time I launched it, it crashed, and when it restores the tab, it crashes again. I'm very disappointed with it, but I also understand it's a beta and will reserve judgment until the release.

Re:IE 9 is actually good? (0, Troll)

KarmaMB84 (743001) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662454)

Addons and/or Flash probably or perhaps just a bad install. Pages with Flash also have display glitches. Not sure if it's Flash or the renderer not handling there being Flash on the page well.

Re:IE 9 is actually good? (1)

DarkXale (1771414) | more than 3 years ago | (#33663242)

This is with or without the 10.2 flash player? I don't think earlier versions are quite designed for it.

Probably Web Developers and Publishers (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33662044)

A lot of people have websites. They want to see how their website is looking in the next version of a major browser. Some dudes like epSos.de do not care at all, but others who live from their websites want to know the future of their business.

I.E. lock? (3, Interesting)

cgenman (325138) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662056)

I can see a few reasons for this:

1. Lots of intranet and other internal company websites are I.E. only. It would be good to know now if those sites will continue to function.
2. Lots of employees are locked into I.E., and want to know what is coming up.
3. I.E. still means "the internet" to a lot of people.
4. Everyone who has a plug-in or toolbar needs to know if this will work with their "product."
5. There are about 2 billion internet users worldwide. I.E. has about %50 marketshare. 2 million downloading a beta out of a group of 1 billion users is about half of a percent. That's not bad by any stretch of the imagination, but it doesn't seem out of line with expectations.

Re:I.E. lock? (4, Insightful)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662188)

RE: 3.) The kind of people who think that would probably not be trying out a beta. I might be wrong though

5.) If you filter out the people who CAN'T run IE9 - XP users circa 60%, Linux and Mac users... it works out to be a bit bigger.

I think the biggest share is the people who are curious to see what Microsoft pulled out this time. Their form at late with software is getting much better. Windows 7 was great, Office 2010 was great as well... Microsoft are finally waking up in face of some competition.

Re:I.E. lock? (1)

GigaplexNZ (1233886) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662274)

1. Lots of intranet and other internal company websites are I.E. only. It would be good to know now if those sites will continue to function.

And most of those broke with IE7.

Re:I.E. lock? (1)

smash (1351) | more than 3 years ago | (#33663142)

Citation needed.

I've rolled both IE7 and IE8 out throughout the company I work for, and none (not ONE) of our shitty 10 year old web-apps that were coded by idiots back in the late 90s/early 2000s broke.

Re:I.E. lock? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33662946)

6. Satisfy curiosity. I do this with every new edition of this browser. The new beta it's a nice step forward, but I still don't find any reason to change from Firefox or Opera.

Re:I.E. lock? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33663090)

Regarding #1 and #2, "IE" for those companies/employess usually means "IE6"

Which is amazing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33662060)

Since the browser still doesn't support HTML5 properly, and still doesn't play nicely with all strict implementations of HTML4, CSS and Javascript.

Re:Which is amazing... (1)

Giometrix (932993) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662582)

Can you cite some sources for this?

People are desperate for a fix! (3, Insightful)

erroneus (253617) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662074)

Browsers do not excite people. Getting their problems resolved does. Microsoft's "overwhelming" response is a strong indicator that people are displeased with what they have now and are looking for it to be fixed.

This is nothing new. Nearly every upgrade from the previous version of Windows was enthusiastically received by users who were hopeful that the problems of their previous version are resolved in the new one. People were happy with Windows98 and so WindowsME did not receive any welcome from users. (If they called in Windows98enhanced it might have gained popularity though) And the same happened when trying to get people to go from WindowsXP to Vista... people were happy with XP (and still are!) and see no compelling reasons to move to another OS. (The use of 64 bit will be the draw that will finally move people to Windows 7 though)

If there is a reason people WANT MSIE9, it is because the previous versions are not good enough.

Re:People are desperate for a fix! (2, Interesting)

cybrthng (22291) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662174)

I beg to differ.. If browsers didn't "Excite" people then we wouldn't have this fascinating "War" of Google vs Firefox vs IE vs everything else. If browsers didn't excite people the open source projects would be ghost towns and people wouldn't be downloading & trying out a browser.

For me, the browser doesn't really "Excite" me, i'm just giddy for that "early days" feeling that comes about whenever some new stuff that we can tinker with heads out way. MS didn't just release a browser and say "here you go", they dove headfirst into an HTML5 experience and developed a showcase to go along with it. That is pretty exciting :)

Re:People are desperate for a fix! (1)

Coopjust (872796) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662232)

If you upgrade from a Northwood Pentium IV to an i7, was the processor not good enough to begin with, or did your needs change? It's much more likely to be the latter.

As a web designer, I'll agree that IE needs improvement. However, dismissing the work of the IE team is wrong. At one point, the IE team consisted of a couple of people doing basic patch support on IE6. Competition forced Microsoft to do better and bring back the team. Why do you think the IE team sends a cake every time Firefox puts out a major release?

Anyhow, IE6 was relatively fast when it came out. It was a security nightmare too. Firefox 1.0 was blazing fast when it came out too, but as we moved towards web apps, complex Javascript, bigger images and bigger everything, it wasn't sufficient. Wave (shelved, I know) still brings browsers to their knees after you get to 100+ threads in the Wave.

Also, keep in mind Microsoft has heavy marketing potential. Nerds may want much better stanedards compliance and speed. The average user may just be coaxed into downloading it because Microsoft advertises it, convincing the user into downloading IE9.

A lot of people were on the Vista beta too. Just keep that in mind.

Re:People are desperate for a fix! (1)

Piata (927858) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662616)

I know a lot of companies that want IE6 and only IE6. You might as well be asking them to change religions when you suggest upgrading to Firefox or Chrome.

What's more likely is there are a lot of developers making sure their sites are ready for IE9 considering the bulk of web users are now IE6 or IE8. IE7 was mostly cannibalized by IE8 and I'm sure IE8 will suffer the same fate with IE9.

Re:People are desperate for a fix! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33662928)

If Microsoft were competent web developers would not have to do anything to be ready for IE9.

Re:People are desperate for a fix! (1)

horza (87255) | more than 3 years ago | (#33663124)

I was thinking same. If I had IE8 I would automatically want to download IE9 as I would assume it was a bug-fix version of IE8 (bit like each previous version, which has nothing new but lots of critical flaws fixes rolled into one release).

Phillip.

No Surprise IE7 and IE8 Were AWFUL (1)

salesgeek (263995) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662136)

It's not surprise that IE users are quick to try IE9 - IE7 and IE8 suck.

IE7 and 8 are too slow, don't work right with many websites (it's amazing how many sites look different with a browser that support CSS round corners), are difficult to use (Internet Options, security zones, and the functionality blocker ribbon works anyone) and offer only the advantage of being able to access sites built exclusively for Internet Explorer (that number is dwindling and will continue to as people continue to run to Firefox, Chrome, Safari and other alternatives).

Do my eyes deceive me? (2, Interesting)

watermark (913726) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662208)

Hell may have frozen over. A JS engine that rivals the best, support for most of the CSS3 goodies, and budding hardware acceleration. This is looking like the best IE release in a while.

If they can keep security snafus down, alternative browsers are going to be a harder sell.

I wonder if everyone is asleep (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33662246)

Did anyone hear that Chris Wilson [msdn.com] - Platform Architect of the Internet Explorer Platform team at Microsoft (and ex-Group Program Manager) moved on to Google yesterday [cwilso.com] ?

They did advertise it... (1)

AmazinglySmooth (1668735) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662294)

What do you expect when you advertise your new software that replaces an old bad one?

Can't beat Xenu (1)

T Murphy (1054674) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662296)

Scientology could produce far more impressive numbers- they just have to make a browser and call it "4chan <3" and their page will get millions of hits every second.

Wow... (1)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662336)

IE8 must be pretty uncompetitive.

And with DX11 coming to Linux (0, Flamebait)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662356)

I can't wait to run IE9 in WINE just to taunt XP holdouts. Why? 4 TEH LULZ!!1!

Fraudulous advertisement (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33662358)

Well done Slashdot for taking part to the communication plan of Microsoft!

From your summary (AYSSTIRTFABPAC? [*]):

[...] aesthetic advantages of IE9's support for HTML5 and [...]

Praising a product for supporting a future norm [wikipedia.org] currently undefined (by definition of a future norm) is brilliant. A bit like if you were reporting custom benchamrk results proov^H^H^H^H^H^H^H ...

Oh, just forget it!

Yours sincerely,
--
AC

[*] : Ain't You Seriously Suggesting That I Read TFA [**] Before Posting A Comment?
[**] : WTF?

Re:Fraudulous advertisement (4, Insightful)

airfoobar (1853132) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662506)

I feel the same way with the AC. Microsoft seems to use this marketing technique a lot, after picking it up from Apple. It tells people "Hey, this thing is like SO popular, everyone is doing it, so you need to do it too" to use artificial peer pressure to make them use its products. I personally think it's a despicable way to operate, and makes me like them even less.

Beauty of the Web (1)

alvinrod (889928) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662372)

I haven't tried the new IE9, but I hope it turns out alright. I have been interested in their campaign [beautyoftheweb.com] to promote it. They've produced some really [lostworldsfairs.com] cool [nevermindthebullets.com] websites that show off some creative uses of HTML5.

It seems like too many people get caught up in the video debate and forget about all of the other exciting uses for HTML5. If those are just early examples, I can't wait to see what creative professionals will be able to produce in a few years.

Why am I not -- (1)

dwiget001 (1073738) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662386)

-- amazed? Microsoft says something about a product of theirs to try and generate hype and interest in it. This is news? OMG!

What about the rest of us? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33662760)

Can't we have Festivus?

It's nice that Microsoft is releasing a browser more compatible with standards, however in order to test websites with it I can't use my fully functional Windows XP install that I'm running in VMWare. I need to fucking buy another whole OS just so I can test websites in their new browser?

How about we tell clients "no we won't test your new website in IE9, because most people are still running Windows XP anyway"?

Re:What about the rest of us? (1)

smash (1351) | more than 3 years ago | (#33663102)

Write to the published standards. Also, if you're a proper developer, get a technet subscription and get access to whatever software of theirs you need and never pay full price for an OS again. There are solutions to your problems - you just haven't found them.

What They Need To Do... (1)

Mystiq (101361) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662884)

I'd really like to see the statistics of hits to www.beautyoftheweb.com [beautyoftheweb.com] by browser.

Two Troubling Flaws (1)

rshol (746340) | more than 3 years ago | (#33662952)

1) Pinned pages in Windows 7 are a great feature, but addons are disabled for pinned apps. It seems likely to me that MS is saying to online developers that if they customize their pages for pinning MS will grant them full control of the look and feel of the pages (including if ads are displayed) and what functionality the user can access in that window (spell checkers, password databases, etc). This makes the feature all but unusable for many pages that would be great as pinned pages like Gmail and Facebook or even Slashdot

2) The absence of a built-in spell checker. I would be willing to make a small wager that more people write more words in browsers today than in dedicated word processing programs. Think how many people use a web browser as their primary email client. Think how much stuff is written daily on Slashdot and other community sites. The browser is a major tool for creation of text content. It should have built in tools to aid in that process.

well given the alternatives... (1)

smash (1351) | more than 3 years ago | (#33663076)

... and before you mark this as troll, yes there are decent alternatives if you do not have certain requirements.

If your requirements include sharepoint and other microsoft web-apps, then you need IE. IE9 looks to be the first version of IE that doesn't genuinely suck monkey balls, so of course people are keen to test drive it.

Will IE9 replace the other alternatives in general use? Who knows - but it will certainly replace the browser people need for IE-only microsoft apps, and I know plenty of people, myself included who are all too keen to see IE8 (never mind 7 or 6!) die in a fire.

All the other kids have it..... (0)

fatbuckel (1714764) | more than 3 years ago | (#33663148)

please???
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