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Microwave Map of Entire Moon Revealed

samzenpus posted more than 4 years ago | from the quickest-route-mode dept.

Moon 82

Zothecula writes "The first complete microwave image of the Moon taken by Chinese lunar satellite Chang'E-1 has been revealed. Chang'E-1 is China's first scientific mission to explore planetary bodies beyond Earth and the on-board Lunar Microwave Radiometer has made it possible for the first time to globally map the Moon in microwave frequencies. Radar observations of the Moon are unable to provide thermal information, and microwave observations taken from Earth cannot reach the far side of the moon. So Chang'E-1's (CE-1) orbit was conducted at an altitude of 200km (124 miles) and allowed it to observe every location of the moon with a nadir view and at high spatial resolution."

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What? (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667242)

What? No posts yet about microwaves and green cheese? Slashdot is slipping.

Re:What? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33667318)

This is a serious story. It's about how they are using microwaves to map the moon but in reality getting ready to microwave Americans.

Finally we have the map! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33667610)

Launch the invasion force and enslave the mooners!

Re:What? (1)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667388)

Never mind that shit, where are the TMA-1 jokes?

In before... (3, Insightful)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667410)

“That’s no moon, it’s a space station”
etc.

While I’m opening cans of worms, I’m sure the moon hoaxers would like to know whether or not it saw the American flag we left up there.

Re:In before... (1)

jeffmeden (135043) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668062)

It saw where the flag was... before it got vaporized! "Flag not microwave safe". Should have gotten the made in china version. etc.etc.etc.

Re:In before... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33668428)

"Death Star"

Re:In before... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33669250)

because leaving trash behind naturally proves the presence of a human being

Moon Hoaxers := stupid nutters (1)

wowbagger (69688) | more than 4 years ago | (#33670634)

"I'm sure the moon hoaxers would like to know whether or not it saw the American flag we left up there."

No, they would want to know that it didn't see the flag:
Moon Hoaxer: Did it see the flag?
Chinese Scientist: Well, it's not designed to see anything that small
Moon Hoaxer (interrupting): DID IT SEE THE FLAG, YES OR NO?
Chinese Scientist: No, but it wouldn't see
Moon Hoaxer (interrupting): SEE I TOLD YOU ALL IT WAS A HOAX HERE'S PROOF.

What they wouldn't want to know would be if it did see the flag:
Moon Hoaxer: Did it see the flag?
Chinese Scientist: Actually, yes, here's the flag, here's the lander
Moon Hoaxer (interrupting): FAKE! FAKE! YOU ARE JUST IN ON THE CONSPIRACY! FAKE!

Re:Moon Hoaxers := stupid nutters (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 4 years ago | (#33671118)

And... why, exactly, did you think that I wanted to open that can of worms?

Sounds pretty win-win to me.

Re:In before... (1)

kms_one (1272174) | more than 4 years ago | (#33671860)

What about the alien moon base on the dark side of the moon? Did that show up or are the Chinese part of the conspiracy as well?

Re:In before... (1)

Eraesr (1629799) | more than 4 years ago | (#33673244)

That's actually Pink Floyd's long abandoned secret recording studio. Astoria [wikipedia.org] my ass, it was a moon base all along.

Re:What? (1)

catmistake (814204) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667580)

nice.

Re:What? (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667432)

That’s an awful lot of toasted cheese... where on earth will we find a large enough hunk of bread?

Re:What? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33667624)

Now, I know where the best place to pop my corn kernels is.

Re:What? (1)

ShadowFalls (991965) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668134)

I wonder if they had to flip the Moon over halfway during the process... I know I can't get good results when I forget.

Re:What? (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668732)

When I saw "whole moon" the first thing I thought of was goatse.

FTFP (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667252)

That would make a cool looking shirt.

Re:FTFP (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668094)

I think I saw the bikini version, but at the time I just thought it was supposed to be tie-dye.

Re:FTFP (1)

srussia (884021) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668620)

That would make a cool looking shirt.

Agree. Especially when they open the Hooters branch in the Sea of Tranquility.

That sound like it would (1)

Even on Slashdot FOE (1870208) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667270)

make some good dip for my nachos. Mmmm. Green cheese...

Re:That sound like it would (1)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667800)

They're Asians! They're lactose intolerant! GTFO with the cheese jokes!

Obama was right! (4, Funny)

erroneus (253617) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667296)

This is Chang'E I can believe in!

Grain of Salt (2, Insightful)

Midnight's Shadow (1517137) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667386)

I hate to besmirch the name of the good Chinese researchers that I know but I wouldn't trust this. There has been too many bad publications out of China and Chinese universities. The link doesn't even mention a journal that the results will be published in. They do say they will present the research at the European Planetary Science Congress but that is it. (Yes I RTFL.)

Now I'm not saying they aren't capable of doing this just that it smells bad enough for me to have my doubts. We will see.

Re:Grain of Salt (2, Insightful)

blair1q (305137) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667514)

It puts them about 50 years behind the US and the Russians in extraterrestrial exploration.

I don't see why it's at all fishy.

BTW, they don't serve cat at Chinese restaurants, either.

Re:Grain of Salt (0, Flamebait)

atamido (1020905) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667956)

It puts them about 50 years behind the US and the Russians in extraterrestrial exploration.

I don't see why it's at all fishy.

It's not a technically difficult feat, but it is still extremely difficult to do. The Chinese (as a country) have a strong history of lying about research (and other stuff) to try and make themselves look better. This is all certainly possible, but I wouldn't put any money on it until after it's been peer reviewed.

Re:Grain of Salt (1)

Hijacked Public (999535) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667786)

So you're saying this whole thing might be A Ridiculous Liberal Myth?

Re:Grain of Salt (0, Flamebait)

Midnight's Shadow (1517137) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667998)

Oh yea. The Liberals go to all the trouble of painting a moon up in the sky every night just to fuck with my head. They even moving it during the night and changing the shape nightly. /sarcasm

What I am saying is that Chinese universities have a tendency of fostering academic misconduct in an attempt to compete with the western world's research. The fact that the people who claim to have taken this picture doesn't seem to have any publications lined up makes me wonder about the authenticity of the work. Now maybe they do and it just wasn't reported but regardless between the pictures themselves, the fact they are out of China and no mention of publication I will take this with a large grain of salt.

Re:Grain of Salt (1)

srvivn21 (410280) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669012)

So you're saying this whole thing might be A Ridiculous Liberal Myth?

Oh yea. The Liberals go to all the trouble of painting a moon up in the sky every night just to fuck with my head. They even moving it during the night and changing the shape nightly. /sarcasm

What I am saying is that Chinese universities have a tendency of fostering academic misconduct in an attempt ...

Grandparent's post was a oblique reference to a long running troll/joke. http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=site%3Aslashdot.org+The+moon+is+A+Ridiculous+Liberal+Myth [google.com]

Re:Grain of Salt (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33668692)

No.

Not much difference between China's communist party and AMerica's Republicans. Both want to work hand in hand with business and give them a free hand. Just enough freedom and satisfaction to the local citizens, while seeking ways to exploit them and others. And like America's republicans, loaded with lies.

Re:Grain of Salt (1)

Bob-taro (996889) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669282)

I hate to besmirch the name of the good Chinese researchers that I know but I wouldn't trust this.

It's interesting you say that, because the images just don't make sense to me. If I understand the article, those are 2 temperature maps of the moon's surface - one is "day", one is "night", but they both seem to show the entire surface of the moon, and in both, while the temperature seems to drop off toward the poles as you would expect, there is little variation around the circumference. Am I missing something? Can anyone explain this?

Re:Grain of Salt (1)

regularstranger (1074000) | more than 4 years ago | (#33670494)

The color scale is different for each image.

Re:Grain of Salt (3, Informative)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 4 years ago | (#33670498)

As the spacecraft goes around the moon it takes pictures during the day and during the night. You take the day ones and put them in one composite, and the night ones and put them in another.

The spacecraft didn't image the whole moon (a sphere!) from 200 km up, all in one shot.

It's just like this [nasa.gov] picture, where it's night all over the planet. Or this [nasa.gov] one, where it's day everywhere and there are no clouds.

Re:Grain of Salt (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 3 years ago | (#33674096)

Also fwiw a “day” (or night) on the moon lasts ~30 days, so I think getting one “daytime” image of the entire sphere should have took at least that long.

Re:Grain of Salt (1)

Bob-taro (996889) | more than 3 years ago | (#33677388)

It's just like this picture, where it's night all over the planet. Or this one, where it's day everywhere and there are no clouds.

(facepalm) Duh! Thanks, I figured I was missing something obvious, or everyone else would have been all over it before I posted.

psychedelic boobs? (-1, Offtopic)

alta (1263) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667408)

That's what it looks like to me.

And this is useful because???

Re:psychedelic boobs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33667870)

Wow. What a waste of a four-digit UID.
See if you can get your sysadmin to beat you with a cluestick.

Re:psychedelic boobs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33668878)

no honestly. literally no one cares except a nerd or two.

Re:psychedelic boobs? (3, Informative)

tsalmark (1265778) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667888)

Psychedelic boobs may not be useful but they sure are fun.

the fools! (2, Funny)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667416)

What happens when we find out that the moon isn't made of green cheese but filled with popcorn?! The only reason why we aren't hearing the impending popping of doom is because there's no air in space! And they did it! They went and microwaved the moon! But just you wait, the giant fluffy kernels of doom shall come raining down on us! RAINING DOWN!!!

Re:the fools! (2, Funny)

khallow (566160) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668488)

But just you wait, the giant fluffy kernels of doom shall come raining down on us! RAINING DOWN!!!

At least we won't die hungry.

Nuke the earth? (0, Troll)

ocipio (131260) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667448)

This has to be a made up story. When I microwave, IN OTHER WORDS NUKE, my leftovers, it speeds up those atoms to make it warm. How does speeding up the moon make it a picture? Seems unlikely.

Besides, microwaving the moon, which causes radiation, could be very detrimental for our health, and the moon. Why hasn't the possibilities of deformities been weighed? Are we being irresponsible, or just dumb?

So to sum up, my microwave doesn't create pictures. So I don't get how you make a picture. Also, all those microwave waves are not healthy to be putting on the earth.

Re:Nuke the earth? (0, Flamebait)

camperdave (969942) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667528)

Radar uses microwaves. The heating up food part was discovered by accident at a radar post. That's why early models were called Radarange. All this is is a radar map of the moon.

Re:Nuke the earth? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33667738)

Radio also uses microwaves... just really really big ones.

Re:Nuke the earth? (2, Funny)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667530)

But they nuked it from orbit (which is the only way to be sure) and making a picture of it (i.e. a thousand words) is pretty certain.

Microwave Three Wolves... (1)

drumcat (1659893) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667620)

If you Microwave a wolf, copy paste paste, and put this image in, you've got an astronomical t-shirt worthy of nerds everywhere.

From the headline... (1)

sootman (158191) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667724)

... I thought it was going to be a map of where all the microwaves on the moon are, like in case you find yourself stuck up there with a cold chili-dog or something.

Re:From the headline... (1)

Just_Say_Duhhh (1318603) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667812)

Yeah, I get it. Popcorn in the Sea of tranquility, Re-heated Pizza in the Ocean of Storms, and a nice cup of tea in the Messier crater. Microwave map of the moon, indeed!

Re:From the headline... (1)

whoop (194) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668450)

So they put a map of the moon into a microwave. This is considered news these days?? Guess what, I put a marshmellow in the microwave the other day. Yippee!

Great! Now post pics of the Apollo Landers (2, Insightful)

NotInfinitumLabs (1150639) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667750)

so we can finally put this conspiracy bullshit to rest.

Re:Great! Now post pics of the Apollo Landers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33667974)

Then they'll just say that we put them there last week.

Dark side of the spoon (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33667754)

Wonder if it shows the lunar bases on the dark side of the moon! ;-)

Lunar Warming? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33667770)

I am going to be the first to predict that this will lead to anthropomorphic lunar warming. Where is my Nobel?

Only the MMO is new (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33667782)

I've definitely played some Michael Jackson arcade game. It was a side-scroller fighting game.

Re:Only the MMO is new (1)

MRe_nl (306212) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668252)

Yeah, you had to dance across the moon, fighting angry parents whilst avoiding a Chinese spacecraft trying to fry you. If you got hit there was quite the realistic clip of Michael on fire.

Wait a second... ! (1)

V!NCENT (1105021) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667860)

Whoah! That's no Death Star!

Is it in enough detail to show Apollo landings? (1)

jbeach (852844) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667886)

So we can finally make the Moon-hoaxers shut up? One of my otherwise smart friends among them?

Re:Is it in enough detail to show Apollo landings? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33668002)

The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter already took pictures of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:369234main_lroc_apollo11labeled_256x256.jpg

The hoaxers just said that this was more hoax, or something.

Re:Is it in enough detail to show Apollo landings? (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668080)

Yeah, but I’d love to see the explanation they’d have to come up to manage to get Communist China in on the hoax. The plot thickens...

Re:Is it in enough detail to show Apollo landings? (2, Funny)

MRe_nl (306212) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668304)

There is no Communist China.

Re:Is it in enough detail to show Apollo landings? (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669546)

You realize that they have to -gain- from making us look bad, and /not/ proving it?

Re:Is it in enough detail to show Apollo landings? (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 4 years ago | (#33670072)

I have a witty response, I’m sure of it... but first I have to figure out whether “they” refers to the Chinese Communists or the moon hoaxers.

Re:Is it in enough detail to show Apollo landings? (1)

eriqk (1902450) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669910)

Meh, they're all just immulina... lnnulima... illimani... NWO.

Re:Is it in enough detail to show Apollo landings? (1)

mugnyte (203225) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668266)

There's not a lot of "sections" to smart. If someone don't believe the US landed on the moon these days, the onus is on them to prove it. Otherwise, they're pretty dumb - like earth-is-flat dumb.

Re:Is it in enough detail to show Apollo landings? (2, Insightful)

jbeach (852844) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669632)

Unfortunately people get bad information that they think settles the issue, and then budging that crap out of there is harder than shoveling gravel because their *pride* is now attached.

Believe it - people who are otherwise smart fall for dumb shit all the time.

The earth is flat around me. (1)

reiisi (1211052) | more than 4 years ago | (#33671260)

Just because you and I have our heads pointed in different directions doesn't mean the earth isn't flat

locally.

Swirl? (2, Interesting)

Raenex (947668) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667900)

How come the images have a noticeable swirl to them? No mention of it in the article.

Re:Swirl? (1)

CarpetShark (865376) | more than 4 years ago | (#33670128)

Because the human brain likes to interpret when presented with uninteresting data, I'd guess.

Units of Measure (0, Offtopic)

Petersko (564140) | more than 4 years ago | (#33667962)

"So Chang'E-1's (CE-1) orbit was conducted at an altitude of 200km (124 miles)"

As long as we provide the distance in miles, why don't we also give it in leagues? I'm sure somebody still uses leagues, so despite the whole world going with the International System of Units fifty years ago (except for three countries, including Burma, Liberia, and some other backward-looking nation I can't recall) we should definitely provide leagues.

Re:Units of Measure (1)

The Grim Reefer2 (1195989) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668260)

While in the UK I was rather shocked to see the speed limits are still in mile per hour.

Re:Units of Measure (1)

whoop (194) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668404)

What else would it be, furlongs per hour?

Re:Units of Measure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33668482)

What else would it be, furlongs per hour?

Beard-seconds per friedmen if you are traveling in Doc Brow's De Lorean.

Re:Units of Measure (1)

whoop (194) | more than 4 years ago | (#33671112)

We are dealing with reality here sir, please kindly keep your ficticiousness to yourself.

Re:Units of Measure (1)

lul_wat (1623489) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668736)

Leagues per hour! Didn't you read the post prior to that- try and keep with the times man!

"Flamebait"? Damn right. (0, Offtopic)

Petersko (564140) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669780)

Somebody modded me funny, then somebody modded me flamebait.

Rereading it, I'd like to think it's a little funny, but yes, it's definitely flamebait. No question.

Let's hope they balance out and I remain even karma-wise.

Re:"Flamebait"? Damn right. (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 3 years ago | (#33674104)

+1 Funny moderations do not give you karma.

Results of Microwave Map: (3, Funny)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668740)

No microwaves on the moon. Anyone traveling there will have to bring their own.

Re:Results of Microwave Map: (1)

willabr (684561) | more than 4 years ago | (#33670426)

i see at the bottom of the article that you can get one before you leave at Sears.

Moon Bounce (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33669212)

I am guessing the bright red areas are moon bounces.

Pics or it never happened (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33670202)

... oh wait

So... (1)

Izhido (702328) | more than 4 years ago | (#33671268)

No gigantic alien Battle Station in the dark side of the Moon, just waiting for orders to unleash their unstoppable forces of Evil over our insufficiently advanced civilization?

Bummer.

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