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Former Military Personnel Claim Aliens Are Monitoring Our Nukes

samzenpus posted more than 4 years ago | from the klaatu-barada-nikto dept.

Sci-Fi 498

An anonymous reader quotes Reuters "Witness testimony from more than 120 former or retired military personnel points to an ongoing and alarming intervention by unidentified aerial objects at nuclear weapons sites, as recently as 2003. In some cases, several nuclear missiles simultaneously and inexplicably malfunctioned while a disc-shaped object silently hovered nearby. Six former US Air Force officers and one former enlisted man will break their silence about these events at the National Press Club and urge the government to publicly confirm their reality." I won't worry until Gort shows up.

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Of course they are (5, Funny)

w00tsauce (1482311) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668928)

If we nuke everything, it's gonna be difficult for them to plunder our natural resources and turn us into sex slaves.

Re:Of course they are (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33669058)

That would be so cool to be a sex slave. I have my hand up.

Excited? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33669148)

The aliens prefer severely-chaffed orifices. Something about the blood and chunks of tissue rubbing against their bladed tentacles really does it.

You wish. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33669064)

I suppose Slashdot has its xenophiles.

mars needs women! (0, Offtopic)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669198)

mars needs women

Re:mars needs women! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33669354)

angry red women?

Slashdot... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33668936)

... really. Come ON.

Re:Slashdot... (1)

nstlgc (945418) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669036)

They've made a big mistake...

Not a Reuters story (5, Informative)

longacre (1090157) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668948)

This is a press release written by some guys hawking their book, it was not written by a journalist.

Re:Not a Reuters story (5, Insightful)

clarkn0va (807617) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669002)

Is there a difference any more?

Re:Not a Reuters story (5, Insightful)

tsm_sf (545316) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669116)

Was there a difference in the first place? "He's just selling a book!" "You're just selling a paper" "Well, he doesn't have, um, quite as large a staff as I do?"

Re:Not a Reuters story (5, Insightful)

spun (1352) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669238)

Newspapers used to have a position called a "fact-checker" and rather than just reprinting corporate and political press releases verbatim, they fact checked them first and would write a story about the release, pointing out any falsehoods. It isn't about book sales versus newspaper sales, it is about journalistic integrity.

Re:Not a Reuters story (3, Insightful)

CarpetShark (865376) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669022)

it was not written by a journalist.

Damn, so it DOES need proof to back it up then? ;)

I mean, seriously... who cares who writes things? What matters is whether the arguments are valid, and the evidence they're based on is sound.

Uhhh, which they're clearly not in this case. Just thought I'd tack that on for clarity ;)

Re:Not a Reuters story (4, Informative)

citylivin (1250770) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669056)

Indeed! from reddit:
PR Newswire is NOT Reuters! [reddit.com]

 

Re:Not a Reuters story (4, Informative)

Megor1 (621918) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669062)

Anyone can send what they want out the PR newswire for $500

Re:Not a Reuters story (1)

AffidavitDonda (1736752) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669344)

Anyone can send what they want out the /. newswire for free...

Re:Not a Reuters story (1)

AltairDusk (1757788) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669082)

I'm surprised Reuters even picked it up, I just lost a little more respect for them (not that I have much respect for any news agency lately).

Re:Not a Reuters story (2, Informative)

Seumas (6865) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669088)

Exactly. I don't understand why this is being covered (though the AP is always just relaying press releases with no thought or questioning, whatsoever). There are plenty of former military, government, or scientific individuals of various ranks who are simply fucking nuts. They typically become regular guests on the Art Bell show and talk to him about alien autopsies that they've witnessed and how Obama is secretly a grey.

Re:Not a Reuters story (1)

DanTheStone (1212500) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669130)

Coast To Coast AM can be pretty awesome. I particularly the use of call-ins during the game Prey.

Re:Not a Reuters story (1)

DanTheStone (1212500) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669158)

I particularly enjoyed, I mean.

Re:Not a Reuters story (1)

spun (1352) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669268)

We what you were talking about, even though you it wrong.

Intercepted TV transmissions (2, Funny)

Nidi62 (1525137) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668950)

Clearly the aliens caught a broadcast of Independence Day and thought it was a war game simulation showing our defense strategy. Either that, or they saw Aliens and are worried that, if we ever do find aliens on another planet, we will just nuke them from orbit. Since, of course, it's the only way to be sure.

Re:Intercepted TV transmissions (1)

Bobb9000 (796960) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669328)

Clearly the aliens caught a broadcast of Independence Day and thought it was a war game simulation showing our defense strategy.

Hmm...if that's the case, the aliens aren't very smart. They should have just taken out Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum from orbit and been done with it.

And cue the "and nothing of value was lost" in 3...2...1...

Re:Intercepted TV transmissions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33669362)

We intercepted no transmissions this is a councilors ship.

I, for one... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33668952)

welcome our Silently Hovering Overlords.

Correlation (3, Interesting)

iONiUM (530420) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668960)

Well, one thing I noticed on the reuters article is that many of the witnesses are nuclear missile , as in, they worked closely on or near the nuclear weapons. Isn't there a chance that, considering almost all were in close contact with nuclear weapons, the radiation was screwing with their head? Or, possibly, whatever they use on nuclear missile bases were?

I'm not discounting the fact that maybe aliens are indeed screwing with nuclear weapons for whatever reason, but it just seems more likely that all these people have something in common, and that commonality is causing them to believe what they saw..

Re:Correlation (1)

WEqR0lDRR6I (1452367) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669026)

I prefer the explanation that humanity's mass unconsciousness' collective fear about nuclear weapons forced unexplainable physical anomalies to occur. Aliens are sooo 20th century.

Re:Correlation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33669244)

I prefer the explanation that humanity's mass unconsciousness' collective fear about nuclear weapons forced unexplainable physical anomalies to occur

What if the entire universe is one conscience. So your expression of this occurence is equally my subconscience as your conclusion.

Further, my reply is for you, as an entity, the recursive confirmation of yourself. So you and I could be the same.

By proxy, it is you, me, us, and our projection others might fear nuclear weapons which manifests forces disabling it that makes it so.

Aliens are sooo 20th century.

Or since the X-files and other Science-fiction opera's, we've been such adapted to the idea it bores us rather as to scare us.

I suspect they will present themselves any moment now, as people are conditioned and grown to be ok with the idea of otherearthly sentient beings. (compared to the 60s scary spooky doomy SciFi.)

Re:Correlation (4, Informative)

jpapon (1877296) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669034)

Working near nuclear missiles doesn't expose you to higher levels of radiation.

For example, you are actually exposed to less radiation while onboard a US nuclear sub than you would receive on the surface.

Re:Correlation (3, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669070)

I'm not sure if radiation makes people delusional.

But let's assume that it does - do you have an explanation for why they have the same delusion?

[disclaimer: I am employed by the Illuminati as a unicorn trainer]

Re:Correlation (1)

dredwerker (757816) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669346)

I'm not sure if radiation makes people delusional.

But let's assume that it does - do you have an explanation for why they have the same delusion?

[disclaimer: I am employed by the Illuminati as a unicorn trainer]

The illuminati and unicorn bit made me chuckle out loud :)

Re:Correlation (4, Informative)

CarpetShark (865376) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669074)

Isn't there a chance that, considering almost all were in close contact with nuclear weapons, the radiation was screwing with their head?

Nuclear radiation isn't known to cause that kind of delusion as far as I know. I think you're onto something with the common factor though; being responsible for a nuclear missile might well cause a lot of people to become paranoid, and perhaps even to imagine some higher power taking the responsibility/functionality away from them.

Re:Correlation (3, Interesting)

AbbyNormal (216235) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669220)

Maybe something to do with the God Helmet [wikipedia.org] ?

Re:Correlation (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669124)

No.
Nuclear weapons are not that radio active. Plutonium is far more dangerous because it is a toxic heavy metal than because of it's radiation.
Also none of these people spent much time at all with the actual weapons.

More likley a bunch of people that want some money and fame.

Re:Correlation (2, Insightful)

Lev13than (581686) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669146)

Isn't there a chance that, considering almost all were in close contact with nuclear weapons, the radiation was screwing with their head? Or, possibly, whatever they use on nuclear missile bases were?

It's human nature to see things in the shadows - the logic is hardwired into our brains. Exposure to popular culture makes the shadows look like aliens. No need to look for a radiation-based cause.

Re:Correlation (1)

Antisyzygy (1495469) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669404)

Radiation doesn't really screw with your head. Not to mention the nuclear facilities would be reasonable safe from levels that would harm you in the short term. The worst case scenario is that you would end up with brain cancer and start hallucinating, but by that time you would be so fucked up anyway you probably wouldn't be working at the facility.

Obligatory (2, Funny)

koterica (981373) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668966)

I for one.... crap.

Re:Obligatory (3, Insightful)

Xaedalus (1192463) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668978)

I did too, about an hour and a half ago. Damn jalapenos.

Don't Eat That! (5, Insightful)

ep32g79 (538056) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668970)

Get the foil out guys, it's gonna be a long night.

Re:Don't Eat That! (4, Funny)

NReitzel (77941) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669050)

Be very careful. Aluminium foil will not work effectively. On needs genuine tin foil to be safe.

Re:Don't Eat That! (1)

Cwix (1671282) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669246)

Cookware will work in a pinch thou.

Re:Don't Eat That! (2, Funny)

jpapon (1877296) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669424)

That's why I have a giant wok in my kitchen, made from solid iron.

I know what you're thinking - "But J, wouldn't a copper pot work better due to better conductivity and therefore shallower skin depth?" Yes, of course it would... but you just can't beat the snazzy style of a wok hat.

Re:Don't Eat That! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33669408)

In order to build a proper Faraday cage (the intent of a tinfoil hat), you would need to encase your entire brain in foil. The only way to do this while your brain is still in your body is to craft a tinfoil suit for yourself.

Re:Don't Eat That! (4, Interesting)

Renraku (518261) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669180)

I, for one, am interested in hearing what they have to say. Sure, it'll probably turn out to be something simple, but what if it really IS UFOs? We can't disregard every crazy-sounding theory.

Remember, the earth isn't flat, the earth isn't the center of the universe, AND things smaller than they eye can see actually exist.

Re:Don't Eat That! (1)

spun (1352) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669302)

I, for one, am interested in hearing what they have to say. Sure, it'll probably turn out to be something simple, but what if it really IS UFOs? We can't disregard every crazy-sounding theory.

Remember, the earth isn't flat, the earth isn't the center of the universe, AND things smaller than they eye can see actually exist.

But how do you know that? Are you a wizard?

Re:Don't Eat That! (1)

guyminuslife (1349809) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669440)

We can't disregard every crazy-sounding theory.

So we pick and choose which crazy-sounding theories to disregard and which crazy theories to investigate. How do we distinguish? Hint: if it's about aliens, Big Foot, or ESP, it goes on the bottom of a very large pile.

Why think aliens (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33668976)

If (and it's a big if, I don't believe them) these people are telling the truth about something interfering with nuclear weapons from a nearby aircraft, why think aliens? Why not $STATE_ENEMY_OF_CHOICE?

Umm (4, Insightful)

jpapon (1877296) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668986)

Captain Salas notes, "The U.S. Air Force is lying about the national security implications of unidentified aerial objects at nuclear bases and we can prove it."

This isn't news until they present their supposed "proof".

I get that we want to think that military officers are supposed to be more reliable than your average Joe Schmuckatellii, but come on.

I don't care who you are, if you can't show proof, I'm not gonna believe you. I mean, I don't believe what the pope says, and he has billions of people who think he's reliable.

Re:Umm (2, Insightful)

wcrowe (94389) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669156)

I get that we want to think that military officers are supposed to be more reliable than your average Joe Schmuckatellii, but come on.

No kidding. From my experience, military officers are just as prone to kookiness, chicanery, and mental illness as anyone else. L. Ron Hubbard is a notable example.

so maybe there's a reason... (1)

airdrummer (547536) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669252)

they're all_former_military?-)

Doubtful (1)

acalltoreason (1732266) | more than 4 years ago | (#33668992)

Seriously? This is ridiculous. While I'm sure aliens exist somewhere light years away. 2 things come to mind. 1 Why the hell do we feel so important that other species would want to come and bother us and 2 its probably some terrestrial experiment, probably designed to destroy nukes.

Aha! (1)

peacefinder (469349) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669000)

Now THIS is the right article for trying the robotic overlord RSS reader for the first time.

Another theory (-1, Flamebait)

CarpetShark (865376) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669006)

Just to show this in another light...

If you were a responsible person in a position of power, perhaps in some covert US task force, or some other friendly but worried power, and saw an idiot like bush in control at the whitehouse... wouldn't you take it upon yourself organise a disarmament too? And if you wanted events at each silo to not get reported back to HQ, what would you disguise the action as?

There are probably a hundred possible explanations. UFOs are not the most likely. Although granted, maybe this isn't either :)

Re:Another theory (1)

wcrowe (94389) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669202)

These are not UFOs! These are UAOs! They are TOTALLY different!

(tongue firmly planted in cheek)

Interesting (1)

DerekLyons (302214) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669008)

Fascinating how the aliens only seem to infest US Chair Force nuclear weapons sites and personnel... But not Navy or Army sites and personnel.

Re:Interesting (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669172)

Hard to get a UAV under the ocean, and we just haven't heard the reports of the bunker hovering UAVs over Navy and Army depots.

Re:Interesting (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669186)

I don't think the Army has an nukes anymore. All their nuclear capable systems where retired a while ago.

Re:Interesting (1)

DerekLyons (302214) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669372)

The article discusses alien intervention "running back to the 1940's", and the Navy certainly still has nukes... Even though they've given up most of them, there's still the missile facilities at Bangor and King's Bay.

Yeah, or... (4, Insightful)

Rijnzael (1294596) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669014)

Not saying I believe the premise of this submission, as it seems pretty far fetched, but...

Say I want to verify that some anti-nuke weapon system can disable nuclear weapons. Say I've tested it to every extent possible, and now I want to verify its effectiveness against real weapon systems. Do you test it against the enemy and risk an actual nuclear war? Nope, you test it on your own weapons. The US has plenty, so one or two missiles at a time being disabled isn't going to be much of a tactical disadvantage, and it could be well planned in advance such that a real nuclear launch is impossible (by placing "real deal" missiles into silos, while subtracting the fissile material) in the case of malfunction as a result of your anti-nuke weapon system.

Unlikely, sure. But much more likely than the combination of aliens having made contact with Earth, the government having kept it from us, and the aliens having an interest in our nuclear weapon systems, as presumably species which can travel such distances would already have the tech to wipe us away and then some.

Re:Yeah, or... (1)

jpapon (1877296) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669104)

Maybe they just want to come down and have tea. They just want to make sure we don't get the wrong idea and start shooting nukes at them.

Or even better, maybe they've contacted nuclear civilizations on other planets, only to have the people panic and start shooting the nukes at eachother! Maybe they're trying to protect us!

Either way, I guess I better grab my shovel and start digging my bunker.

Re:Yeah, or... (1)

magarity (164372) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669290)

Do you test it against the enemy and risk an actual nuclear war?
 
You only run that risk if the enemy can trace it back to you. Unless there's a "USAF" label on the thing then the source is hard to locate if you can't track its flight.

Precious bodily fluids (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33669020)

Me thinks someone may not have had enough water but too much whiskey.

credible disclosure (4, Interesting)

irving47 (73147) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669032)

roll your eyes and mock all you want, but don't forget that a lot of these guys had Top Secret SCI clearances they don't exactly hand out to every random Jethro.
There was a Disclosure Project event at the National Press Club in early 2001 that had well over a hundred witnesses that were pilots, former military officers, etc... that were willing to break their oaths and testify in front of congress if called about these events.
Some people think 9/11 was a reaction/distraction. I'm NOT going that far, but it still makes me wonder.

Re:credible disclosure (1)

wcrowe (94389) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669310)

Well, to be fair, we don't know the true credentials of any of these guys. I mean they claim to have held the positions they held, but who really knows?

And basically, if you're clean cut, reliable, and do not have a criminal record, a top secret clearance is not that hard to get. I know a guy right now who had a top secret clearance, and I wouldn't trust him further than I could toss him. Within the context of military secrets, he could probably be relied upon, but outside of that, he's a shyster through and through.

Hopefully they have a UFO expert speak (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33669044)

basically an expert at being unable to identify something

gort (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33669076)

That picture of Gort made me laugh.

Wessels! (1)

mandark1967 (630856) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669084)

Can you direct me to your nearest nulear wessel?

w-e-s-s-e-l nuclear wessel.

Keep in mind... (2, Insightful)

javelinco (652113) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669086)

This is a PRESS RELEASE at this point. It's not a news article. I don't know Reuter's policy in picking up press releases, but based on the content of this release, I'm guessing they will publish whatever they get. The press release is short on details, but claims that there will be experts, and declassified documents that back up their assertions. And a dead body in a storage freezer, as well, for those of you who like hairy plastic suits draped over carcasses. Enjoy!

Re:Keep in mind... (1)

irving47 (73147) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669248)

Yeah, yeah, it's a press release.. STFW?
It's exactly what's going to be happening next monday at the national press club. That it's going to be happening and what it is about is fairly interesting to some people. I don't see the problem.

Implausible story from UFO nut (0, Flamebait)

0111 1110 (518466) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669096)

Since when did Reuters report on National Inquirer stories? The source is a UFO nut. The story itself is pretty implausible. Why would aliens travel many light years just to malfunction a few nuclear missiles from time to time? Nothing about it makes sense. If they are advanced enough to build an interstellar spacecraft they are probably also advanced enough to shut down or even disappear every nuclear weapon on the planet.

Re:Implausible story from UFO nut (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33669298)

Well if they did fly here since the first nukes were detonated, then we have a bounds on where they might have come from. Anything interesting 30 lyrs away?

Re:Implausible story from UFO nut (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33669390)

If you see a young kid running around with a pair of scissors, you take the scissors off them before they hurt themselves. One day however they will need to learn to cut something, and you have to let them experiments with the scissors.

I'm not saying the story is suddenly credible, but I don't think it can be dismissed with; "If they are so powerful/intelligent/masterful why would they bother doing menial tasks?" What if flying hundreds of thousands of light years to them is the equivalent for us walking to the back door of our house? Would you walk to your back door occasionally when there is a spider building a web or a bird building a nest in visible range?

Re:Implausible story from UFO nut (1)

Antisyzygy (1495469) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669472)

Maybe these UFO's are experimental aircraft from a foreign nation being used to disable our nuclear arsenal. It would make sense to do it in small numbers so as to not get your aircraft caught and examined. I am more on the side that this press release is bullshit.

Logic quizes (1)

owlstead (636356) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669140)

Maybe we should send them lots and lots of books with logic quizzes or tell them to read encyclopedia articles or something - sounds to me they are bored out of their skulls.

UFO doesn't mean aliens. (2, Insightful)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669144)

It's a TLA UAV if it's anything.

Screw ET, how about malfunctioning missiles? (1)

alangerow (610060) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669176)

I'm more concerned that a number greater than 0 of nuclear missiles can simultaneously and inexplicably malfunction more than I am of an extra-terrestrial probing me. We have weapons that can obliterate an entire city ... and they can mysteriously malfunction? You'd think they'd work out the bugs BEFORE creating enough arsenal to destroy the entire habitability of our planet. I'm not a perfect coder, but I can say with all honesty that my code isn't putting billions of lives at risk.

Re:Screw ET, how about malfunctioning missiles? (3, Informative)

jpapon (1877296) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669264)

"Malfunction" and "Arm, Launch, Acquire Target, and Detonate" are hardly the same thing.

Re:Screw ET, how about malfunctioning missiles? (1)

PitaBred (632671) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669444)

I'm not worried about a nuclear weapon accidentally malfunctioning. The reason we have them and very few other countries do is because it's fucking HARD to make a nuke explode. If anything, be worried if they accidentally function.

Midnight Star: I Want To Know (I Want To Know) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33669200)

Aliens from outer space are sleeping in my car!

The Plan: +1 , Helpful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33669218)

1. Find sunken U.S. and Soviet nuclear submarines.
2. Recover reactor fuel.
3. Sell reactor fuel on Slashdot.
4. Profit !

Yours In Guam,
K. Trout

SPACE TRAVEL IS IMPOSSIBLE! Stop the Garbage (1)

HockeyGuy (1864828) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669224)

People really want there to be space aliens but the fact is space travel is impossible.
The nearest closest planet that may MAY be able to support life is 45 thousand light years away.
That means if the human body which can not last more then 5 years in space because of bone loss was to make this trip you would have to do it at somewhere around 9,000 times the speed of light...
Now this is only to the very closest MAYBE planet but if you want to travel to planets farther away you are talking 2x 5x 10x the speed ...
Now we all love startrek but warp 9,000 or 10,000 for 5 years or 10 year or warp 5MILLION what does it matter because there is not enough PROPELLENT in the earths ocean if we used all the H and O in the Water of all the oceans...


SPACE TRAVEL IS IMPOSSIBLE AND DONT START THE WORMHOLE BS OR DIMENSIONAL TRAVEL
GIVE IT UP! Mars is as good as we will ever get and that is just about impossible...

Re:SPACE TRAVEL IS IMPOSSIBLE! Stop the Garbage (4, Funny)

SecurityGuy (217807) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669294)

What a relief! I was afraid we were going to actually have to discover all of physics and cosmology. You may not realize it, but you've saved us a vast sum of money and the productive lives of scientists who can now skip all that and play facebook games instead.

Re:SPACE TRAVEL IS IMPOSSIBLE! Stop the Garbage (4, Insightful)

jpapon (1877296) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669336)

People really want there to be space aliens but the fact is space travel is impossible using current technology and with our current understanding of physics.

There you go. Carry on.

Will they start straightening the Tower of Pisa? (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669232)

Will they start straightening the Tower of Pisa?

Re:Will they start straightening the Tower of Pisa (1)

Sean_Inconsequential (1883900) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669460)

Don't be such a homophobe. (I am joking, no need to mod me down)

The obligatory... (1)

mswhippingboy (754599) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669292)

I, for one, welcome our new (alien) robot overlords.

So I guess the real story here... (1)

macraig (621737) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669308)

... is that a few ex-soldiers are unhappy with their pensions and figure to supplement them with kickbacks from a whackjob book author? I think the mercenary life would have been a better supplement....

Forget Gort (1)

techsoldaten (309296) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669322)

I won't worry until Gork and Mork show up

Gort... (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669324)

> I won't worry until Gort shows up.

Will that be old Gort or new Gort?

Why would there be UFOS? (1)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669330)

Why would there be Unidentified flying objects near nuclear missile sites? Its not like any country would send out UADs to see where America keeps its missiles would it? Nobody on earth cares about the location of missiles which can end all life on earth...

At least someon'e watching our nukes. (1)

DieByWire (744043) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669386)

Considering the USAF's recent record [wikipedia.org] , it's a relief to know someone is watching our nukes.

Jam packed with details (3, Insightful)

Billy the Mountain (225541) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669394)

"The weapons malfunctioned": How? they tried to launch them toward a target and they veered off course and detonated nearby causing a horrible but remarkably suppressed nuclear accident?

"A disc-shaped object silently hovered nearby": Wow, eerie. Oh, wait, that was just a mylar balloon on a string. I think it read "Happy Birthday"

Baradei! (1)

Voline (207517) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669398)

The IAEA has become increasingly technologically sophisticated.

Kinda scary... (1)

Rooked_One (591287) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669410)

If its not us...

Reuters is a pretty reliable site - so right now i'm kinda wishing it were April 1st!

Its kinda (really) scary because that means whatever is in those disks is probably Russians, Koreans, the Japanese, or India - or aliens. Maybe aside from one or two other countries, those are the ones listed with the tech to have surpassed us.

Or, we could have developed something that just happens to look like things that have been reported to be flying around since the 50's.

Gort vs Cocoon Tesla (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33669414)

That's when I really start worrying.

As for all the other natural disasters, maybe they like - or need - global warming. You know, to feel more comfy.

Although Tschernobyl seems to indicate a low-level nuclear exchange could greatly benefit nature and wildlife - clearing away most of the predatory humans. Sort of like what BP tried on the southern U.S. But without harming wildlife as much. Plus, the "nuclear fall" would help cool the planet and rebuild the ice-caps, shelfs, glaciers, top off the old mountain ranges... etc.

Rumors that the financial and political "elites" have sold humanity out to them, and theyra coming with the cattle-cars are - of course - mere fabrication. :)

my beef with these claims (3, Interesting)

khallow (566160) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669422)

The fundamental problem I have with these claims is that:

a) There's no physical evidence. You would expect these sorts of tall tales surrounding such a large scale secret operation. So merely having a lot of people, even experienced observers, detail unknown activity don't tell you whether the "UFOs" are truly unidentified or not. My view is that the intelligence services would actually encourage these sorts of tales precisely because they generate a lot of disinformation for free.

b) If they're aliens, beings from the future, etc then why are they playing their hand? Why tell us, "We can screw with your nuclear weapons"? That'd be something like the US deliberately and frivolously overflying some country for decades. All it does is give the other guys a variety of ideas for shooting down your planes/UFOs, especially if you crash some planes.

c) Where are the countermeasures? If the US has a UFO problem, then they should have some sort of countermeasures. I'd think there'd be some tools that would be kept secret and some tools, more decoys, which would be deliberately leaked. You know, just like the US did a lot of its Cold War strategy. But we should be hearing about weird missiles or other things, even if (perhaps especially if) they don't work.

As it stands, if these reports reflect a true phenomena, let's say, Greys [wikipedia.org] conducting covert reconnaissance of the Earth for some reason, then why screw around with the most militarily sensitive spots on the planet? What do they gain from that activity over decades which balances the risk of getting caught? The thing is that there's a certain sloppiness to the UFOs in these stories. They're visible, they do stuff that's likely to get powerful organizations riled up, and there's the risk of technology falling into relatively capable hands.

Let's give an example, suppose the US was overflying a bunch of cavemen and a plane crashed. From our experience with cavemen, they wouldn't be able to make anything of the crash. Perhaps pieces would be grabbed and used for relics or decoration.

Now suppose these cavemen were bright and far enough ahead in philosophy and organization that they knew the scientific method and could throw the resources of hundreds of tribes cooperatively for generations at figuring out this strange vehicle from the air. You might find them flying jets in a century. They might even have known the principles of flight, industrialization, etc already, but not have incentive to use that knowledge before the sky gods came.

That's the risk aliens take by doing these sorts of activities. Sure humanity can't use UFO technology now, but getting some could greatly hasten our progress towards UFO technology.

I've seen lot's of UFO's (1)

SloWave (52801) | more than 4 years ago | (#33669454)

Send me some money and I'll tell you all about them. I'll even wear some dark aviator shades and a UFO cap while I do so.

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