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Swedes Cast Write-In Votes for SQL Injection, Donald Duck

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the anybody-but-pirate-party dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "The Swedish elections were held recently (the third Sunday of September to be exact) and it seems that a few people tried to interfere with the election by voting for parties which were in effect named to be SQL injection attacks or similar. Clever stuff! Little Bobby Tables in real life." That wasn't the only oddity of the election; reader MZeroOne writes: "The Swedish Election Authority published the results of last Sunday's general election and even though the current prime minister retained power, the candidate who got the most individual handwritten votes was Disney's Donald Duck." Maybe the existence of the Hard Alcohol Party (237 votes) helps explain why the Pirate Party didn't have a better showing.

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MOTHERFUCKING GNAA!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33684956)

Huge BLACK COCK in the MOTHERFUCKING House!!

Suck my black COCK!!!

Re:MOTHERFUCKING GNAA!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33684970)

OH YEAH!

STUFF MY MOUTH with that HUGE BLACK COCK!!!

For those who don't read XKCD. (5, Informative)

Dayofswords (1548243) | more than 2 years ago | (#33684958)

The 'Little Bobby Tables' reference:

"Exploits of a Mom"
http://xkcd.com/327/ [xkcd.com]

Re:For those who don't read XKCD. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685018)

best xkcd ever!

For those who are American (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685108)

Sweden, is a Nordic country on the Scandinavian Peninsula in Northern Europe.

Re:For those who are American (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685140)

Additionally it is in the northern hemisphere of the planet earth and has a population of 9.2 million.

Re:For those who are American (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685216)

Additionally, the only reason to know of Sweden's existence, is the women.

Re:For those who are American (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685296)

Oh yes. I love my Swedish babes!

Re:For those who are American (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685228)

[typical American]Planet Earth? That's from Star Wars, isn't it?[/typical American]

Re:For those who are American (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685488)

[typical European]Help the Germans are coming. Someone better call America for help.[typical European]

Re:For those who are American (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685864)

[typical Swede]Help the russians are coming! Oh, haha! Whiskey on the rocks![typical Swede]

Re:For those who are American (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685292)

Americans are aware of that. Swedish women prefer marrying American men over Europeans. So, we hear all about Sweden.

Re:For those who are American (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685358)

Amen. I wouldn't want to marry American women either. No wonder you want the Swedes.

Re:For those who are American (5, Funny)

caluml (551744) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685354)

Its capital is Bern, and they are famous for cuckoo clocks and Hitler.

Re:For those who are American (1)

g4b (956118) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685416)

when the eiffel tower was built in bern, they really did want to use it as scaffold for a big cuckoo clock... but they gave it away as a present and sign for freedom to france.

Re:For those who are American (0, Redundant)

ZankerH (1401751) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685424)

Actually, Bern is the capital of Switzerland (which is also famous for the clocks), and Hitler was born in Austria and was the dictator of Germany. It looks like you've got some problems with geography and history.

Re:For those who are American (4, Informative)

arb phd slp (1144717) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685486)

Actually, Bern is the capital of Switzerland (which is also famous for the clocks), and Hitler was born in Austria and was the dictator of Germany. It looks like you've got some problems with geography and history.

That's just, like, your opinion, man.

Re:For those who are American (1)

Robert Zenz (1680268) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685576)

...and Hitler was born in Austria...

Oh come on, do you have to spoil it? The Germans have him, the Germans can keep him...but we want Mozart back!

Just in case somebody doesn't realize it, I was joking.

Re:For those who are American (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685774)

whooooosh!

Re:For those who are American (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685460)

Its capital is Bern, and they are famous for cuckoo clocks and Hitler.

false, he came from austria, not switzerland

Re:For those who are American (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685880)

They built the pyramids, and are currently locked in deadly combat with Julius Caeser. ... what, like you haven't lost the last three days to Civ V?

Excuse me, I'm going to play for just one more turn.

Re:For those who are European (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685404)

Now tell us about Norway, Finland, and Denmark.

Do it without looking at Wikipedia first.

Re:For those who are American (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685422)

YOU LIE!!!1!

as an american, i am intrigued (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685508)

what is this europe you speak of?

is it some sort of territory somehow unincorporated into the american union for some ungodly reason?

do they eat their own babies there?

Re:as an american, i am intrigued (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685708)

what is this europe you speak of?

is it some sort of territory somehow unincorporated into the american union for some ungodly reason?

Yeah, but they don't know it yet.

do they eat their own babies there?

You'd be surprised what they do there.

Re:For those who don't read XKCD. (2, Funny)

JazzXP (770338) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685128)

There's somebody on /. that hasn't seen that comic?!?!

Re:For those who don't read XKCD. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685266)

The blind slashdotters.

The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (4, Insightful)

FlorianMueller (801981) | more than 2 years ago | (#33684974)

Since a number of activists from the anti-software-patent movement joined the Pirate Party, including its first MEP (Christian Engström), I've been following its development closely and at some point even lent them a signature to support their participation in an election in my country (Germany), even though I ultimately didn't vote for them.

I've commented on the Pirate Party's failure to evolve into a serious political force. The EUobserver, an independent website covering European politics, published a streamlined version of my analysis [euobserver.com] . The original version [blogspot.com] goes into some more detail and appeared on my blog.

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (5, Insightful)

FuckingNickName (1362625) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685000)

What every young, unrepresentative group of loud, idealistic men don't realise is that most people just want peace, a job and a house. And, if you spend your time employed rather than campaigning for the abandonment of the intellectual property concept, you will have enough money to pay for it anyway. And what you cannot pay for, you put on credit. And debt doesn't really matter... continue working hard and you can pay fast enough that no-one takes your stuff away... your government is not going to let civilisation collapse even if everyone else is in debt too.

Life has been easy for quite a while. And of course I want to exploit you if I have the intelligence to do so. And I want to protect my legal rights to make it possible, not to share. Then I'm even more secure and my surroundings even more luxurious.

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (4, Insightful)

Nursie (632944) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685044)

The only bit I object to in your argument is this -

And, if you spend your time employed rather than campaigning for the abandonment of the intellectual property concept, you will have enough money to pay for it anyway.

It's not necessarily about being able to afford to buy stuff. It's about rights and reform in the new digital age.

Other than that you're spot on, most people would rather get on with life and vote for whoever requires them to think about it the least.

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685090)

The only bit I object to in your argument is this -

And, if you spend your time employed rather than campaigning for the abandonment of the intellectual property concept, you will have enough money to pay for it anyway.

It's not necessarily about being able to afford to buy stuff. It's about rights and reform in the new digital age.

Other than that you're spot on, most people would rather get on with life and vote for whoever requires them to think about it the least.

In that case, you really missed the point of his post; "rights and reform" is an activist topic. one that most people don't care about.

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (5, Insightful)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685130)

Actually, the grandparent (or rather, the people described in the post) missed the point. The point isn't "we can't afford stuff! stuff should be free! WAAAH!", it's about rights, personal integrity and in extension safeguarding a free and democratic society. However, most people would rather get a $50/year tax cut and not think so much...

And it really helps them when people from established political parties describe the pirate party as thieves, slackers and people who just want something for nothing. Makes it a lot easier to just think "I can afford stuff, I don't need stuff for free." while you vote for whoever promises you the biggest tax cut.

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (2, Insightful)

Aceticon (140883) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685500)

Intellectual Property law created what in effect is a tax paid directly to other persons/companies:
- Against the natural laws, it gives people and companies ownership of ideas and lets them charge you every time you share an idea.

It's very simple really: with Intellectual Property you have to have authorization to give/share things with others and pay for iy, without it you're free to do as you which with what you have and what you know.

I'm surprised this point is not raised more often by the "Pirate" political parties: instead they tend to get drawn into abstract discussions on (for most people) obscure points ...

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (1)

Nursie (632944) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685160)

Did you read my post?

let me show you again -

"most people would rather get on with life and vote for whoever requires them to think about it the least."

Because it sounds like you didn't. Or I wasn't clear enough. I was disagreeing that the pirate party are just people who want everything for free, and completely agreeing that most people don't give a rats arse as long as they don't have to think about it too much.

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (1)

timepilot (116247) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685238)

Frustrating. I've found that if I post something that's only two words, some doofus is only going to read one of them and post a smarmy comment about how dumb I am. If I respond and point out the second word, yet another doofus is going to read only the second word and tell me how I'm wrong about that one.

Even worse is that I find myself doing the same damn thing to others. Damn you slashdot!

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (1)

fadethepolice (689344) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685454)

One more problem with this theory is that it is unsustainable. In the past economic growth was based on expansion in population, the more slaves you had (sorry factory workers, chinese, and irish as well) the more production your empire had. With the birth of the industrial revolution, gradually over time, increases in productivity have become more and more the basis of economic growth. If the growth in population is exponential, while the growth in production is almost exponential you get to a tipping point where your ability to produce goods requires almost no laborers. At this point capitalism fails as since you can produce an almost infinite amount of goods with very little (relative to the population) need for human workers. It would seem rather silly at this point to just let people starve to death and not get any music when the goods are available, but the work is not needed.

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (1)

xtracto (837672) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685114)

And it has always been that way, since the beginning of the homo sapiens. It is only due to the really few people who have the will and means to promote change that the human species has progressed (both socially and technologically).

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (1)

FuckingNickName (1362625) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685188)

Except that no-one considers representative democracy to be the pinnacle of technical/scientific methodology ;-).

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (5, Insightful)

vadim_t (324782) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685302)

No, it's not about that.

I don't object paying for stuff. I pay for indie games, and donated to the musopen project and some others. Many of those are things I don't even have to pay for if I don't want to.

I object paying to parasites who want to create laws that will make it impossible for me to avoid paying them, because they want to introduce taxes on media, internet connections, and restrictions as to what my hardware can do. Simply not buying their stuff doesn't do it, because even if I don't buy or pirate a single CD they'll still put a tax on my hard disk and connection, throttle my torrent of CC licensed music, include DRM crap in my hardware, and prevent centuries old material from entering the public domain. If I don't buy, they'll say that I'm torrenting and use that as a justification for the things I've listed.

That bullshit has to be removed at the source, through laws that make it illegal and cut its funding. I'll gladly pay the artists, but I don't want to give a single cent to the parasites from the RIAA, MPAA and ASCAP.

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (2, Insightful)

Joce640k (829181) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685510)

This ... and the fact the the government is piggybacking all sorts of censorship and internet-usage-log laws on top of what the RIAA wants. And the fact that the government is selling out to the RIAA in the first place, thus undermining the entire democratic process.

I was never particularly militant, I'm now old enough to have a job/house/mortgage, I'm voting pirate in the next elections.

EUobserver @wiki (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685012)

Just to save others checking that,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EUobserver [wikipedia.org]

EUobserver.com is an independent online newspaper focusing on politics related to the institutions of the European Union (EU).[1] It writes on human rights, civil liberties, transparency, anti-corruption, critical environmentalism and the democratisation of the European Union. It also publishes comment pieces and blogs reflecting opinion from across the political spectrum, but it does not publish its own leaders or editorials.

History

Established in 2000, the EUobserver claims to be the largest online daily news site focused on the EU with over 60,000 readers and the second most read EU-related news source used by journalists after the Financial Times.[2][3]

In 2003, the website temporarily agreed to put their story summaries in the public domain so that they could be used in Wikipedia's Current events pages.[4]

In 2008, the website was redesigned in order to include video capabilities and blogs. In 2009, the EUobserver partnered with the Westdeutsche Allgemeine Zeitung to launch the WAZeuobserver, providing a similar service but focussed on the Balkans.

The website's editor-in-chief is Lisbeth Kirk, Danish journalist, the wife of Jens-Peter Bonde, a former Danish Member of the European Parliament who used to co-chair the Independence and Democracy group of eurocritical MEPs in the European Parliament.[5]

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685080)

Most pirates probably just vote for the green party (miljöpartiet) instead - they changed their policy to support filesharing after the pp got 7% in the EU election - because they are a mainstream party and there was no doubt that they would get in. How much of a difference this has made I don't know but they did do very well in the election.

Their internet-related policies [www.mp.se]

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685122)

... and the first thing one of their MEPs did was to vote AGAINST file sharing in the European Parliament just the other day. We still very much need the Pirate Partu.

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (1)

a_n_d_e_r_s (136412) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685356)

No that wasn't the case. The truth is that file sharing was never an issue that was discussed during the election, the issue got lost.

Instead it was a race beetween two blocks of 3 and 4 parties that both was vying for power - none of the blocks won since a 8th party joined and became the deciding factor in the parlament.

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (5, Insightful)

tenchikaibyaku (1847212) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685098)

As not all the ballots are counted as of yet it's possible that the final result will differ a few points, but it's worth noting that the Swedish Pirate Party basically seems to have retained its voters from the previous election:
2006: 0.63%
2010: 0.65% (preliminary)
This even though they were more or less absent from the public debate before the election.

I also think that the existence of a Pirate Party here in Sweden has managed to affect the public debate regarding piracy and privacy related questions more than what shows up in the polls.

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (1)

dangitman (862676) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685100)

I've commented on the Pirate Party's failure to evolve into a serious political force.

Err, what? That hardly seems worth commenting on. To become a "serious political force" they'd need to actually make some effort and have some desire to become such a force.

I wasn't aware that anyone thought they were serious about it.

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (5, Insightful)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685192)

In the Cities of London and Westminster constituency, they got 90 votes in the last UK election. To put this in perspective, Mad Cap'n Tom, a joke candidate, got 84 votes in the same constituency. If the Pirate Party actually want to achieve something, then they need to start being constructive. A few suggestions:
  • Change the name. Pirate Party makes them sound like a bunch of teenagers.
  • Propose a sensible alternative to copyright, or propose a reasonable term for copyright. Their current proposals, if implemented, would cause significant damage to the economies of most western countries.
  • Focus more on the privacy and security policies - people are more sympathetic to people who want to be left alone than to freeloaders.

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (1)

TeraCo (410407) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685352)

They should also put up their policies regarding other key issues as well. If you want to be a viable candidate to the majors, people need to know that you're not going to do crazy things with their favourite issue.

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (1)

VJ42 (860241) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685600)

In the Cities of London and Westminster constituency... propose a reasonable term for copyright.

At the last election, the Pirate party UK proposal was s a 5+5 copyright term; whilst I personally think it should be a 10 (well, up to 15) year fixed term, it's not that dissimilar - how is this unreasonable in the digital age?


Disclaimer - I'm a PPUK member

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (3, Informative)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685674)

They also proposed non-commercial copyright infringement be completely legal. This basically means that there is no reason for anyone to ever purchase entertainment, or any other copyright material that they are not going to make a profit from using, because they can legally get it for free. On the other hand, they didn't (for example) say anything about forcing the BBC to abandon DRM, support open standards for distributing its own work, and use CC (or similar) licensing for license-fee funded programming.

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (2, Informative)

VJ42 (860241) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685764)

They also proposed non-commercial copyright infringement be completely legal.

Yes, because millions are doing it anyway; the law is next to useless and serves no point except to criminalize teenagers in their bedrooms

On the other hand, they didn't (for example) say anything about forcing the BBC to abandon DRM, support open standards for distributing its own work, and use CC (or similar) licensing for license-fee funded programming.

This is plain wrong: from the relevant section of the PPUK Manifesto [pirateparty.org.uk]

Government copyrights are increasingly becoming a problem for society, with data such as maps and postcodes being jealously protected by government departments. We will introduce a new right of access to government funded data, requiring the release of all maps, statistics and so on that have been paid for by the taxpayer in open formats, under a Creative Commons or similar licence, giving the public access to research that they have already paid for. An exception will be made for cases that genuinely have national security or privacy concerns.

This will include the output of the BBC, which is funded by the licence paying public and should therefore belong to the licence paying public. We will amend the BBC's charter to prevent the BBC from using DRM technology, and to require the BBC to release all their content under a Creative Commons licence. We pledge to maintain and expand the current list of important national events that cannot be exclusively broadcast pay TV services, and we pledge to put into action the government's existing but widely ignored Open Source Action Plan, which would encourage the use of free software in the public sector, saving money, and making the UK less reliant on foreign software suppliers.

As you can see, we covered all of that.

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (2, Insightful)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685808)

I'm not sure the name is their problem. After all, the Official Monster Raving Loony Party has won elections in Britain.

No, their major limitation is that they're primarily a single-issue party, and their stance on that issue has been taken by some of their opponents. So while they haven't experienced much by way of electoral success, as far as putting their ideas into mainstream politics in Sweden they've done a fantastic job.

They wanted to tip the scales in parliament (1)

FlorianMueller (801981) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685268)

It's telling that you doubt they ever had the "desire" to become a serious political force. That shows what impression they created. But their founder, Rick Falkvinge, said repeatedly in recent years that Swedish elections usually have a close outcome between the left wing and the right wing and his game plan was to make it into parliament so that the Pirate Party would then be able to tip the scales in favor of either left or right, subject to concessions on intellectual property policy by whomever they would ultimately support. Being the decisive small part that determines who governs a country was a pretty serious plan, I would say.

Re:They wanted to tip the scales in parliament (1)

dangitman (862676) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685386)

Being the decisive small part that determines who governs a country was a pretty serious plan, I would say.

It might be a serious goal, but I don't see anything that indicates they had any kind of plan for achieving that.

If they were serious, why did they name their party the "Pirate Party" and where are their policy positions on other issues not related to copyright and similar issues? You know, the issues that people vote on, and want their government to address?

Re:They wanted to tip the scales in parliament (1)

FlorianMueller (801981) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685426)

You ask all the right questions but let me explain what they said their plan was (I've been describing all the time, not justifying).

They thought that the "Pirate" name was key to draw attention to the issue and they tried to ride on that PR wave. By now, however, I'm convinced that the "Pirate" name -- more befitting of a costume party than of a political party -- was a mistake and with a "dull" name they might not have had that initial PR momentum but they could have built a real organization that's here to stay.

In terms of single-issue party or not, they figured they could do it like the Greens, who started out as an environmentalist and pacifist movement that over time took positions on all of the issues. I believe the Greens actually did have more of a an all-issue kind of party program in the beginning even though they were indeed very focused on protecting the environment, fighting against nuclear reactors, and opposing all weapons and wars (although in the end the German Greens, when they were in the government, supported the bombing of Serbia and the war in Afghanistan...).

Re:They wanted to tip the scales in parliament (1)

dangitman (862676) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685466)

They thought that the "Pirate" name was key to draw attention to the issue and they tried to ride on that PR wave

Yeah, not really such a good idea. Contrary to popular sayings, not all attention is good attention. It's kind of like calling a marijuana legalization party the "Getting Really Fucked Up On Drugs Party." That will certainly win much attention, but not votes.

In terms of single-issue party or not, they figured they could do it like the Greens, who started out as an environmentalist and pacifist movement that over time took positions on all of the issues.

Well, yeah. Whether you agree with it or not, environmentalism is a fairly coherent, holistic philosophy. There's enough broad support and substance behind the ideas to make a workable government. Opposing copyright just isn't in the same ballpark of useful ideas.

Re:They wanted to tip the scales in parliament (1)

Zironic (1112127) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685568)

I honestly don't think anyone cares at all about what name they attach to their politics, have you looked at the names of all the established parties? They're all equally silly.

Re:They wanted to tip the scales in parliament (1)

HungryHobo (1314109) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685622)

They thought that the "Pirate" name was key to draw attention to the issue and they tried to ride on that PR wave. By now, however, I'm convinced that the "Pirate" name -- more befitting of a costume party than of a political party -- was a mistake and with a "dull" name they might not have had that initial PR momentum but they could have built a real organization that's here to stay.

I feel I must mention that there's a long tradition of political parties having names like that.

In the UK-

the name "Tory" derrives from tóraidhe- meaning outlaw or robber.
'from the Irish word tóir, meaning "pursuit", since outlaws were "pursued men".'

Re:They wanted to tip the scales in parliament (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685726)

They chose Pirate Party as a name because the Liberal People Party was already taken by a party that rather restrict peoples rights in Sweden.
It also draws attention and make young people read up on what the party actually wants. Give it two or three decades and the voters that are considered young today will be a majority.
People tend to be too short sighted when it comes to politics. Unless you want unrest and disorder it can take more than a generation to turn a country around.

Please, don't misuse "piracy" and "property" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685150)

Please, Florian. I'm one of your secret fans (no, really :).

Still, I do feel uneasy about your straight backing of this wdespread misuse of piracy and property:

piracy:

Kidnapping a ship in high seas, possibly endangering the lifes of crew and passengers can't be seriously associated with illegal copying of software. Granted, both is illegal. Still, if I threw a pie in your face (also illegal), it'd be wise not calling that "rape" or "murder". It's still nasty. It'd still your right to take me to court for that.

property:

There's no such thing as intellectual property. There are copyrights, trademarks, patents; Those are restricted monopolies granted by the state. By analogy (and seemingly, for convenience) those are subsumed as "intellectual property rights". But there is a fraction (mainly desperate capital, trying to find new things to speculate on, since physical world doesn't grow exponentially, as one has come to expect of capital) which tries to make this chimaera of "intellectual property" more and more like "real property" (cf the never-ending copyright extension farce in the U.S. and elsewhere; cf. patent trolls, which trade and speculate in "intellectual property" as others trade in real estate, etc.).

Those who know better have to be critical of this language. And I know that you know better.

Remember: language kills

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (3, Informative)

Kjella (173770) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685256)

Just a few things:
1) The EU and national elections are really not comparable, people care about so vastly different things. Neither before, during or after did PP have anything like a 7% support in polls for the national parliament. But in retrospect, they didn't have a good enough national election platform to push while they still had media's attention because all the effort had gone into the EU election. They got silent and when it was ready media had lost attention.

2) There has been extremely little room for any other than the traditional parties and SD who got almost 3% in the last election, the number of "other" votes dropped from 2.75% to 1.41% and all others backed while PP increased from 0.63% to 0.65%. All major issues related to PPs politics have been pushed back to past the election, like the TPB trial who "coincidentally" begins next week.

3) It might look more like an activist group, but as long as no party is willing to seriously fight for the same issues then PP will have to fight for representation on their own. It took three days after the election for the Greens - including the Swedish representative - to vote for another anti-filesharing bill in the EU, they are only playing the populist opinion but will trade it away in any negotiation.

4) There have been no rounds ot mass lawsuits in Sweden, TPB is still up and running, they get some of the world's best free services like Spotify, in short people don't see the immidiate need for political change. But polls asking people for their opinions rather which party they'd vote for show that PP is having an effect on the attitude to copyrights. More and more people dispute that copyright infringement equals theft. If it again becomes a political topic, PP will do better than last "wave".

Personally I'm at least hopeful for 2014...

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (1)

FlorianMueller (801981) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685280)

To comment particularly on item #4, the Pirate Party might have done gradually better if there had been some procedural moves in a major lawsuit involving "piracy". That apparently was the case before the EU elections but not this time, where some court proceeding will start next week or so. But then the question is whether it's really a serious political game plan to be so much "event-driven" that you get 0.7% without an event and 7.1% with one occurring at the right time. That's actually another characteristic of activist groups (who get more attention and support around such events) that doesn't fit the definition of a political party.

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (2, Insightful)

wertigon (1204486) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685448)

Actually, I disagree... The Pirate Party is everything but a one-hit wonder. However in the world of politics, things move slowly, by neccessity.

The Pirate Party made a really bad election this year, but that does not seem to have demotivated any of it's members. If anything, it has made them even more interested in continuing the fight. The fact that members from other parties join PP here in sweden only serve to prove that PP is here to stay, IMO.

So a one-hit wonder? Nay. Not when their core issues are so important. But they do need help, and lots of it...

Re:The Pirate Party probably was a one-hit wonder (1)

oneofthose (1309131) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685628)

While I agree with most of what you say in your article, there are large parts of the Pirate-Agenda missing in you analysis. One of the major topics the party concerns itself with is one of the most important questions we as a society will face in the coming years: privacy and freedom. I think these points should not be missing in any analysis of the pirate party.

Hard Alcohol Party... (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33684982)

... sadly isn't what you'd think. They are antibooze-ists. Huge disappointment.
Translated homepage: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http://www.spritpartiet.se/&prev=_t&twu=1

On a separate note, other notable entities voted for were "Shit piss fuck cunt cocksucker motherfucker tits", and a silly javascript insertion attempt. Full data at http://www.val.se/val/val2010/handskrivna/handskrivna.skv

Re:Hard Alcohol Party... (3, Insightful)

Adambomb (118938) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685172)

R;12;Skåne län;83;Helsingborg;01;Helsingborg Norra;0701;Ödåkra V;Stick it up your fucking ass!;1

oh my.

http://hittepa.webs.com/x.txt (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 2 years ago | (#33684984)

Seems to just reference itself. Clever but a bit of a waste. Or are they aiming for a stack overflow? Didn't seem to bother firefox here.

Re:http://hittepa.webs.com/x.txt (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685588)

Seems to just reference itself. Clever but a bit of a waste. Or are they aiming for a stack overflow? Didn't seem to bother firefox here.

I think the point is to make it look like what the clerk typed onto the website displays as they'd expect, so that he could later swap x.txt out for something evil.

Donald Duck (5, Interesting)

BetterThanCaesar (625636) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685042)

The Donald Duck party is an all time favourite joke vote in Sweden, but it is actually a registered party. They promise free alcohol and wider sidewalks. They don't have a budget for voting slips, but write-in votes are valid (if spelt correctly). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Duck_Party [wikipedia.org]

Re:Donald Duck (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685700)

I had to giggle when I saw that you typed "spelt" instead of spelled. Sure, you spelled spelt correctly, if you we referring to a grain. Interestingly

Donald Duck and the Pirate Party (1)

tagno25 (1518033) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685068)

According to the Swedish Election Authority's published hand written votes [www.val.se] , Donald Duck got one vote and the Pirate Party got ~500.

SQL Injection? (1)

RightSaidFred99 (874576) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685084)

Seriously? What is this, 1997? Who still writes code vulnerable to those?

Re:SQL Injection? (4, Interesting)

pla (258480) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685164)

Seriously? What is this, 1997? Who still writes code vulnerable to those?

Seriously, you don't even want to know.

Over my past two jobs, all but one of the most important enterprise systems we used had zero protection from attacks like these. Talkin' accounting, inventory, POS - Even the Borg of ERP packages, MS Dynamics, still chokes on merely having apostrophes in most fields.

And from what I've seen of banking systems that I've had to interface with, I'd keep my money under my bed - Except many of them haven't quite caught up to all this fancy "new" SQL tech. Nice safe 60s era COBOL code - And yes, they still use two digit years, because after all, we have another 90 years before the Y2K fixes will break.

Re:SQL Injection? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685582)

My home address has an apostrophe in the house name, and every so often this breaks an internet site (usually online shopping). When it does work, most just remove the "nasty" character.

You might want to sit down for this... (3, Interesting)

Chineseyes (691744) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685276)

There are banks, hospitals, utilities and other institutions that don't take kindly to change. These institutions have ancient (as in I ran across a piece of code that was written when I was in diapers) legacy systems running key functionality that many people's everyday lives depend on. If you ever had to take a look at any of the code for these legacy systems it would frighten you, but what is more frightening is that most of these institutions have an "if it's not broken don't fix it" mentality so don't expect modern security issues to be addressed in a lot of these legacy systems anytime soon.

Re:You might want to sit down for this... (1)

Pentium100 (1240090) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685762)

what is more frightening is that most of these institutions have an "if it's not broken don't fix it" mentality

So, in your opinion, it would be better, if they replaced their old system that everyone knows how it works and what problems it may or may not have with a new system that may or may not work as good as the old one and have bugs that nobody will know about until they surface (the same was with the old system when it was new, but now probably all bugs were fixed or people at least know what not to do).

If a bank has a 30 year old mainframe and uses it - great, as long as it works correctly, and it probably has more chance to work correctly than a new system running new software.

Re:SQL Injection? (1)

a_n_d_e_r_s (136412) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685374)

Twitter was hit not many days ago with that type of attack - an javascript insertion attack.

Way to many are voulnerable.

If people are tossing their votes away . . . (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685144)

. . . it really says a lot about the quality of the "serious" candidates. As in, none of them are worth voting for anyway, so why not vote for a joke candidate?

Re:If people are tossing their votes away . . . (2, Insightful)

halfaperson (1885704) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685200)

Well yeah, that is actually often the point of humourus votes. It shows you support the democratic system but perhaps none of the available representatives, whereas ignoring to vote means not using your democratic rights at all.

Re:If people are tossing their votes away . . . (1)

AronHennerdal (1135801) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685240)

In this case it doesn't say that much about the seriousness of the candidates, since the number of humorous votes are vanishingly small. In a country of 9 million people, 1580 voted on parties without preprinted ballots (which includes these examples) and 84.6% of the registered voters used their right to vote (http://www.val.se/).

Re:If people are tossing their votes away . . . (1)

daremonai (859175) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685290)

It's not tossing a vote (or a table) away. SQL injection attacks have done more for (to) this country than most politicians could ever dream of.

Re:If people are tossing their votes away . . . (3, Insightful)

bint (125997) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685360)

No, it just says a lot about what *these people* think about quality of the candidates.

What? fail (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685176)

I didn't understand the headline nor the summary...

Yuck it up (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685206)

Meanwhile, the neo-Nazi Sweden Democrats [wikipedia.org] won 5.7% of the vote, 20 seats, giving them the balance of power.

Thanks for the joke votes. Your apathy just gave actual Nazis a say in parliament.

Re:Yuck it up (2, Informative)

halfaperson (1885704) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685284)

Nazis? They are actually more Israel friendly than most established parties, and one of their MP:s is jewish.

While their ideological platform is built mainly on restricting immigration, that hardly qualifies as nazism. And joke votes are hardly a sign of apathy. If you really need to point fingers, why not aim them at the ~18% of the population that didn't vote at all? Get your facts straight.

Re:Yuck it up (2, Informative)

Vintermann (400722) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685400)

The SD was created by the merger of several small, right-wing anti immigration parties, some of which were pretty openly nazist. The Jewish community in Sweden are among the many who accuse them of still "wearing their brown shirts under their jackets".

For what it's worth, though, there is still at least one openly neo-nazi party that did not join them, and now occupies the niche (such as it is) on their right.

Re:Yuck it up (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685444)

Hilarious. Right-wing xenophobic "ethnic nationalist" parties the world over love this fig leaf. "We support Israel! We can't be called Nazis!" Hahahahahaa!

You're a lost cause, obviously, as you've practiced the apologist talking points. But for the benefit of anybody happening upon this post, yes, they are Nazis:

It won't be long before Sweden Democrats show true anti-Semitic nature. [haaretz.com]

no public minded representation here in 20 years (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#33685244)

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Democracy??? (1)

Vexler (127353) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685260)

I'd like to see their reaction one day when they somehow get enough people to write-in an idea/patent/cartoon character/medical condition into office. Maybe no one will be laughing then.

Psoriasis for Prime Minister in 2050.

It's funny - laugh (1)

Saint Stephen (19450) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685326)

Yeah! The reason our party didn't do better is there are too many other parties! They oughta outlaw the other parties! There should just be one party, our party ! Maybe we could have some kind of way of forcing peole to join our party, I don't know, some little groups called soviets!

237? (1)

pedantic bore (740196) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685436)

I don't think 237 votes would have increased the Pirate Party's tally to any significant degree... How many millions of voters does Sweden have?

Down in the noise is down in the noise.

Reality catching up to fiction (2, Funny)

Drakkenmensch (1255800) | more than 2 years ago | (#33685492)

From the Norm MacDonald Show, Laurie's concession speech:

"I'd like to congratulate the winners who got more votes than I did, write-in candidates Mickey Mouse and pornstar Wendy Whoopers."

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