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RIM Announces BlackBerry PlayBook Tablet

Soulskill posted about 4 years ago | from the getting-into-the-game dept.

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siliconbits writes "Today, at the BlackBerry Developers Conference in San Francisco, company President and co-CEO Mike Lazaridis kicked off the event with the widely-anticipated news that RIM is developing a tablet PC of its own. Called the BlackBerry Playbook, the device is a 'Flash-loving,' 'device-paring,' 'enterprise ready' tablet, says RIM, with a 7-inch screen. It is 9.7 millimeters thick and features a 1024x600 widescreen display. It also supports 1080p through HDMI and has a USB port." The tablet will run on a dual-core, 1GHz CPU and have 1GB RAM. Its browser will be WebKit-based, and the device will be running a brand new operating system developed by QNX software. The tablet won't have 3G access of its own when it launches, but will be able to tether to existing BlackBerry devices via Bluetooth.

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and (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33716956)

and we have a WINNER!

Must really hurt to be MS these days (3, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 4 years ago | (#33716966)

Looks like all the handhelds are getting grown up OSes. I bet this really pisses off ballmer.

Re:Must really hurt to be MS these days (1)

Bert64 (520050) | about 4 years ago | (#33717072)

Yes, POSIX based OS and Webkit based browser, just like iPad and Android... Only thing really different is the kernel.

Re:Must really hurt to be MS these days (1)

the linux geek (799780) | about 4 years ago | (#33717104)

In this case, the kernel is architecturally years more advanced than Mach or Linux.

Re:Must really hurt to be MS these days (2, Funny)

larry bagina (561269) | about 4 years ago | (#33717656)

It's true. For example, I can look at the linux source code today. I can look at the darwin source code today. But if I want to look at the QNX source code, I need to develop a time machine so I can go back in time, back before RIM cut off access to it. (Might as well go back before QNX required you to submit 10 pages of paperwork and a DNA sample as well).

Re:Must really hurt to be MS these days (3, Informative)

NatasRevol (731260) | about 4 years ago | (#33717902)

I bet MS has a better SDK on release than RIMM though.

http://na.blackberry.com/eng/developers/tablet.jsp [blackberry.com]

App Dev *only* via HTML5/CSS or Flash.

Foleo? (1, Insightful)

otis wildflower (4889) | about 4 years ago | (#33716988)

A 'companion' device to a phone? How well did that work out for Palm again, I forget..

Not to mention an 'brand new' OS?

My prediction: RUNAWAY SUCCESS!!!!!

Re:Foleo? (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 4 years ago | (#33717036)

Have you seen their current OS? An upgrade is badly needed and QNX is pretty good.

Re:Foleo? (1)

FooAtWFU (699187) | about 4 years ago | (#33717192)

Idunno, tethering to a cell phone might save you $40/mo on a second data plan.

Re:Foleo? (3, Interesting)

NatasRevol (731260) | about 4 years ago | (#33717912)

You mean while they charge you $39.99 for tethering?

Are there really people with 4-digit UID... (1)

PaulBu (473180) | about 4 years ago | (#33717300)

... who think that QNX is "brand new"???

I was snickering at that "brand new OS" myself, for all of what it took me to read next four words, and I thought "Wow, that's cool! Smart move!"

Anyone else remember those 3.5" QNX demo floppies, with kernel, GUI and functional browser on top?

Paul B.

Re:Are there really people with 4-digit UID... (1)

nadador (3747) | about 4 years ago | (#33717472)

No. We 4-digit people all downloaded those floppies and used them on our parents' Windows boxes so that we could feel morally superior to Windows users while also not having to actually convince our parents to run Linux on their computers. Ah, memories.

Re:Are there really people with 4-digit UID... (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | about 4 years ago | (#33717522)

QNX was a company that was bought by Palm. QNX is also a microkernel OS (a really nice design, actually), however that is not the OS that this tablet will run. According to TFA, the QNX team have built a new, POSIX-compliant, OS.

Re:Are there really people with 4-digit UID... (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | about 4 years ago | (#33717654)

bought by Palm

And, when I say Palm, I mean RIM. Brain not working today.

Re:Are there really people with 4-digit UID... (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | about 4 years ago | (#33717546)

I thought this was obvious but, "Brand New OS*."

* Not our current offerings also has so many customizations it might as well be.

Re:Are there really people with 4-digit UID... (1)

aliquis (678370) | about 4 years ago | (#33717692)

Gateway-Amiga pre Linux/AmigaDE/Tao-groups Elate idiotism was the days.

Plans of using QNX as base for a new Amiga OS. Good idea to scrap it. Not.

Sorry Jim Collas :(

Re:Foleo? (1)

aliquis (678370) | about 4 years ago | (#33717678)

As long as it's open OS doesn't matter.

Also RIM _OWN_ QNX now-adays so I assume they will use it for their phones aswell.

Does anyone know if WeTab actually delivered with MeeGo? I can't find any information. It's supposed to run Android apps to.

Sadly there's still lots of ways to fuck up an open software device by locking down the hardware/OS installation and software management :(

Say if Nokia skipped their stupid attempts to become a service supplier (I do understand why they want to, but how well has it worked?) as focused on just bringing out the best phone for any price and for instance had an application store with no fees at all for the developer how long would it take until it was jam-packed with apps? Sure that lower the chance that it gets somewhat moderated but most Linux dists seems do well against viruses and whatever without no expensive fees. The software distribution could even be handled by some other group of people outside of the company.

Time will tell what happens. I guess that atleast it's possible to make something like Apples store for applications without screwing up to, but will it get the developers?

Instead of giving away 10 million $ in a contest what about let everyone submit applications for free?

Re:Foleo? (1)

NatasRevol (731260) | about 4 years ago | (#33717922)

Also RIM _OWN_ QNX now-adays so I assume they will use it for their phones aswell.

You mean right after they came out with a new phone OS, they'll get rid of it?

That'll play well with developers.

hmm (1, Troll)

nomadic (141991) | about 4 years ago | (#33716992)

Why is it so hard for someone to just finally release an ipad competitor that at least tries to match the specs? 7 inches is barely above smartphone level.

spec tradeoff (1)

Jabrwock (985861) | about 4 years ago | (#33717060)

They're hoping you're willing to overlook the smaller screen in return for front/back facing cameras and a higher resolution screen. Which, if rumours are to be believed, means they will be overshadowed when the iPad Mk II comes out.

Re:hmm (4, Informative)

the linux geek (799780) | about 4 years ago | (#33717126)

Other than the 7" screen, this thing not only meets but surpasses the iPad's specs.

Dual-core Cortex A9 processor: The A9, at the same clock speed, is 20-30% faster than the A8. This has two of them. We're looking at almost triple the iPad's processor power.

1GB of RAM vs 256MB

QNX-based multitasking OS - depending on how they dumbed it down, could be way beyond iPhone OS

1024x600 at 7" vs 1024x768 at 10" - I think the pixel density on the PlayBook is at least a bit higher.

Re:hmm (2, Interesting)

nomadic (141991) | about 4 years ago | (#33717416)

Hey, all I want is a 9 inch (or higher pad) with the ipad's battery life, a USB port, and a non-locked down OS (preferrably linux, but I'll take a Windows variant); all the other specs I can live with.

Re:hmm (2, Interesting)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | about 4 years ago | (#33717592)

Not to mention something that looks, feels and is as well-made as the iPad. The other day I messed with a few Android phones, and the newer ones appear to be a close match to the iPhone when it comes to quality of the screen, responsiveness, and usability. The illusion ends however when you pick one up and take a closer look... most have a cheap plasticy feel, often with too many buttons in all the wrong places.

I love my iPhone but if someone decides to make an Android phone with a focus on quality rather than cutting corners, I'll be all over it. Same with tablets, really...

Re:hmm (1)

aliquis (678370) | about 4 years ago | (#33717760)

May fail in the battery and screen department (Guess it's not IPS?)
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1801216&cid=33717736 [slashdot.org]

But in all other areas chances are it's better.

Re:hmm (1)

nomadic (141991) | about 4 years ago | (#33718010)

Yep looks pretty cool, definitely something I would take over the ipad. Wonder when (or if) the US gets it.

Re:hmm (1)

Dr Max (1696200) | about 4 years ago | (#33717848)

Hey, all I want is a 9 inch (or higher pad) with the ipad's battery life, a USB port, and a non-locked down OS (preferrably linux, but I'll take a Windows variant); all the other specs I can live with.

Notion ink adam, is that and more. Its operating system is android, but you could put ubuntu on it.

Re:hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33717756)

You're comparing specs *announced* for "early 2011" to a shipping product? Yeah....

Re:hmm (1)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | about 4 years ago | (#33717928)

Other than the 7" screen, this thing not only meets but surpasses the iPad's specs.

Wow just wait 'till I get my hands on one of these. No seriously, I mean we'll have to wait since it's not actually in stores until 2011. So, um, wanna play a game on my iPad while we wait ?

Re:hmm (3, Interesting)

alvinrod (889928) | about 4 years ago | (#33717130)

It's been said that Apple ships so many devices that it's often able to buy up the entire production capacity for certain components for several months. It's possible that they've cornered the market on 9.7" touch screens and that that iPad has been successful enough that they continue to purchase the growing manufacturing capacity as it becomes available.

Companies want to ship now or as close to it as possible. If there won't be a sizable quantity of 9.7" screens until next spring it's not going to be possible to make a tablet using those dimensions. I haven't tried using a 7" tablet device, but the only difference is that the iPad has an extra 168 pixels, which may make a difference, but how much of one I can't say. It may also make the device somewhat less precise as there's a smaller physical area to register touches on, but that can be compensated for in software and Android has definitely been coming along quite well. How well the QNX works on the BlackBerry tablet is another matter, but it doesn't have to be a huge hurdle.

The processor and RAM are probably the most ambitious I've seen in terms of a tablet so far, but it may not be much better than what future Android tablets or the next generation iPad has by the time this device actually ships. Some of the specs are better than the current iPad, others aren't, and hardware specs aren't always the best indicator of devise usability of usefulness anyhow. The devise isn't even available yet, so it's somewhat useless to try to compare it to the iPad since no one has had extensive hands on with it yet.

Re:hmm... 7 inches (4, Insightful)

Kozar_The_Malignant (738483) | about 4 years ago | (#33717394)

You may have missed all the rumors about the next gen iPad being a 7 inch model. Apparently there is demand for that form size.

Re:hmm... 7 inches (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 4 years ago | (#33717660)

The resolution is a little sad though, and if Apple does release one, I hope it's at least the same as their current model. The 600 pixel vertical resolution is what really kills the low-end netbooks for usability. I relegated mine to use as a video player (on a big monitor) and found one with higher resolution. A good interface can help, but not completely eliminate the limitation.

Re:hmm... 7 inches (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 4 years ago | (#33717670)

But that's the problem; they are rumors. The source of the rumors are analysts whose livelihood depends on people listening to what they have to say regardless if they are true or not. These same analysts have been saying every year there will be a Verizon iPhone since the original iPhone launched. Some of them still insist there will be coming 2011 even though AT&T and Apple have an exclusivity deal until 2012. Until someone announces the deal has been canceled, don't believe them.

Re:hmm... 7 inches (1)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | about 4 years ago | (#33718004)

This is a little 'tin foil hat' but I've thought that companies could plant those rumors to then release such a device to get press as "beating Apple to the punch" as it were. Frankly I don't see Apple doing a form factor between the iPad and iPhone, what would be the point ? The iPad was already criticized for being an overgrown iPod Touch, the in-between tablet really would be.

Re:hmm (1)

aliquis (678370) | about 4 years ago | (#33717736)

Display 11,6“, 1366 x 768 Pixels, Color, Touchscreen
Processor 1,66 GHz Intel Atom N450 Pineview-M
RAM 1 GB
Memory 16 / 32 GB, Extension with SDHC Card up to 32 GB possible
Java /Flash / Adobe AIR yes / yes / yes
Applications WeTab Meta-Store integrates multiple Stores, Support for native, Java, Linux, Adobe AIR® and Android Apps
Supported eBook formats ePub, PDF, TXT, Mobipocket, WeBook premium format at Q4/10
Battery up to 6 hours
Wireless Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR, Wi-Fi (802.11 b/g/n), optional 3G (UMTS/HSDPA)

http://wetab.mobi/en/product-details [wetab.mobi]

Price from 449 euro. I don't know what the iPad cost, similar?

this is fucking hilarious (2, Funny)

larry bagina (561269) | about 4 years ago | (#33717000)

They're using WebKit (the leading mobile browser) since it's LGPL. They're also using QNX, which, while not exactly open source, was shared source. Key word: was. RIM (as in rim job) closed it up after buying QNX.

They keep designing for yesterday.... (5, Insightful)

LibertineR (591918) | about 4 years ago | (#33717002)

Why? We dont need this. We need a Storm 3 that WORKS! Why is RIM ignoring the market that made them successful? Let Apple have the consumers, let Droid have the geeks. Business needs a phone that just works, dammit. Oooh, a tablet. I can read my email with larger fonts? WTF?!?!?

Hey RIM, pssst! There is nothing wrong with having the boring, but secure, reliable but quick, phone that just works. NOTHING.

You are being distracted into oblivion by people who WONT BUY YOUR TABLET ANYWAY.

Re:They keep designing for yesterday.... (1)

e065c8515d206cb0e190 (1785896) | about 4 years ago | (#33717042)

There is nothing wrong with having the boring, but secure, reliable but quick, phone that just works. NOTHING.

Yes there is.
There's no growth nor margin (i.e. money to be made) in the market you're describing. Believe it or not, it actually matters to RIM management and shareholders. As long as they keep making good handsets, I don't mind their ventures in the tablet market.

Re:They keep designing for yesterday.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33717058)

What you're describing is the iPhone. You can go out and buy one today.

Re:They keep designing for yesterday.... (1)

lakeland (218447) | about 4 years ago | (#33717122)

No, the iPhone has quite limited enterprise features - the ability to mass deploy changes and lock them down tight is all but non-existent

Re:They keep designing for yesterday.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33717314)

No, the iPhone has quite limited enterprise features - the ability to mass deploy changes and lock them down tight is all but non-existent

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL926

You're welcome

Re:They keep designing for yesterday.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33717482)

Nowhere near what BES can do. And you need to use Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync for the other half of your provisioning (I'm not familiar with Domino interop features.)

Re:They keep designing for yesterday.... (1)

L3370 (1421413) | about 4 years ago | (#33717098)

And the first lineup can only connect via WIFI or tethering to an existing blackberry! WHY would you want two different devices reading the same BES emails????

Once this thing comes out with 3g/4g capability I can see many businesses wanting to adopt this. But since the projected release is Q2 2011, the 3G won't be ready till late 2011 early 2012--Plenty of time for other companies to design something better.

Typical RIM...showing up late to the party with a 12-pack of Zima's after everyone's had their fill of the punch bowl.

Re:They keep designing for yesterday.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33717624)

And the first lineup can only connect via WIFI or tethering to an existing blackberry! WHY would you want two different devices reading the same BES emails????

Actually, it doesn't.

The playbook doesn't have native blackberry email, it tethers to a blackberry via encrypted bluetooth. It's really just a bigger screen for your BES email.

From the press release [marketwire.com] ,

"This means they can opt to use the larger tablet display to seamlessly and securely view any of the email, BBM(TM), calendar, tasks, documents and other content that resides on (or is accessible through) their smartphone. They can also use their tablet and smartphone interchangeably without worrying about syncing or duplicating data."

and

"When connected over Bluetooth, the smartphone content is viewable on the tablet, but the content actually remains stored on the BlackBerry smartphone and is only temporarily cached on the tablet (and subject to IT policy controls). With this approach to information security, IT departments can deploy the BlackBerry PlayBook to employees out-of-the-box without worrying about all the security and manageability issues that arise when corporate data is stored on yet another device. "

Re:They keep designing for yesterday.... (2, Interesting)

TheCount22 (952106) | about 4 years ago | (#33717274)

Why? We dont need this. We need a Storm 3 that WORKS! Why is RIM ignoring the market that made them successful? Let Apple have the consumers, let Droid have the geeks. Business needs a phone that just works, dammit. Oooh, a tablet. I can read my email with larger fonts? WTF?!?!?

Hey RIM, pssst! There is nothing wrong with having the boring, but secure, reliable but quick, phone that just works. NOTHING.

You are being distracted into oblivion by people who WONT BUY YOUR TABLET ANYWAY.

It's likely that the QNX team (recently acquired by RIM) will be making this product. So I don't think it will change the focus and quality of the current offerings.

Re:They keep designing for yesterday.... (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | about 4 years ago | (#33717580)

Why? We dont need this. We need a Storm 3 that WORKS! Why is RIM ignoring the market that made them successful? Let Apple have the consumers, let Droid have the geeks. Business needs a phone that just works, dammit. Oooh, a tablet. I can read my email with larger fonts? WTF?!?!?

Hey RIM, pssst! There is nothing wrong with having the boring, but secure, reliable but quick, phone that just works. NOTHING.

You are being distracted into oblivion by people who WONT BUY YOUR TABLET ANYWAY.

It's likely that the QNX team (recently acquired by RIM) will be making this product. So I don't think it will change the focus and quality of the current offerings.

Shades of BeOS and Palm, except Palm didn't capitalise on their purchase.

Ya RIM confuses me (1)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | about 4 years ago | (#33717320)

I -love- my Curve 8330. Old hardware though it may be, it works great. Their scrolly based interface is easy to use and the phone was designed to get shit done. It is a business phone. It's call quality and signal quality are great, it is solid, it is everything I want in a phone. No it isn't shiny or hip, but I didn't buy it for that. I, or rather my employer, bought it as a business communications device, something it is fantastic at.

They seem to have problem understanding that is the market, that is why people like them. Let Apple have the hipster market who's in to shiny gadgets. I agree there's lots of money in it but you are too late, and don't have the cool factor Apple does. Also, like all fashion markets, it is notoriously fickle and you could find it has run off to the next trend in a hurry. The business market is solid though.

Re:Ya RIM confuses me (1)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | about 4 years ago | (#33717876)

Also, like all fashion markets, it is notoriously fickle and you could find it has run off to the next trend in a hurry. The business market is solid though.

RIM should be careful not to lose the business market as well. More and more businesses are working on getting private or corporate iPhones, Android devices or Windows phones into their IT ecosystem. And not just small nimble businesses with some enthusiasts IT guys and a geeky CIO; I'm talking megacorps with byzanthian IT organisations and conservative decision making. I have one of those as a client, and found to my surprise that a good many Blackberry users don't like their device a lot, even the non-geek manager types, and even the ones who do not already own an iPhone or Android. Very few of the people who got their private iPhone hooked up to the corporate email and calendar have looked back at their Blackberries.

Once Apple get their corporate provisioning workflow up to snuff, RIM will really have something to worry about.

Re:They keep designing for yesterday.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33717510)

They can leverage their Enterprise Server and reputation and provide a tablet experience for those users clamoring for it. And there are a *lot* of use cases where the tablet form factor is really, really beneficial. I work in the Healthcare field and a tablet form factor has many good uses. We are resisting the iPad because of issues regarding enterprise management, but also the requirement of sanitizing it...can't do it on the iPad, hopefully can do on the Playbook.

Re:They keep designing for yesterday.... (0)

LibertineR (591918) | about 4 years ago | (#33717728)

Can you really envision a bunch of Doctors strolling down the hall at your local hospital carrying one of these things.....with a PHONE hanging off of it from a cable for tethering purposes? This thing should either be a 4G device out of the box, or they just should not build it.

Re:They keep designing for yesterday.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33717878)

Pretty sure TFA said the tethering was achieved via Bluetooth, not "a PHONE hanging off of it from a cable".

Re:They keep designing for yesterday.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33717948)

Can you really envision a bunch of Doctors strolling down the hall at your local hospital carrying one of these things.....with a PHONE hanging off of it from a cable for tethering purposes? This thing should either be a 4G device out of the box, or they just should not build it.

Do you know that bluetooth doesn't use cables? Why would you tether using cables when it specifically says tethering is through bluetooth?

Besides, a doctor would have wifi in the hospital and doesn't need 4G or bluetooth.

Re:They keep designing for yesterday.... (1)

phantomfive (622387) | about 4 years ago | (#33717744)

But it is pretty. When I saw it, I felt the same irrational urge to buy that I feel when I look at Apple products. I just want to......hold it.

So maybe people will buy it.

Re:They keep designing for yesterday.... (1)

aliquis (678370) | about 4 years ago | (#33717776)

While Symbian isn't perfect is there any reason Nokia E7 wouldn't be a good business phone?

Your network runs CDMA? How large part of the US use CDMA? Which carriers?

I don't get why Nokia couldn't release a CDMA phone if they don't have one already. What's stopping them? Will?

I wonder (1)

KillaGouge (973562) | about 4 years ago | (#33717016)

I wonder if these things will replace the iPad at meetings and such. It seems like a good idea, but having to tether could be a pain.

Re:I wonder (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 4 years ago | (#33717040)

The initial model will be Wifi with tethering. There will be a 3G model later but they haven't announced when is the release date.

'Replace' iPads??? WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33717176)

People would actually have to be using Apple's worthless iPads in meeting for them to be 'replaced'...

The only idiots with iPads are the Hipster Douchebag Starbucks crowd.

Re:I wonder (1)

shoehornjob (1632387) | about 4 years ago | (#33717228)

It seems like a good idea, but having to tether could be a pain.

In a nutshell they just shot themselves in the foot. Unless they have some super cool software on that thing they had better stop trying to play catch up and innovate. They've already lost a lot of ground.

Re:I wonder (1)

nomel (244635) | about 4 years ago | (#33717584)

Bluetooth tether? I did this between my phone and laptop for a while. Any time my pocket was near the laptop, I could click a button and have internet access connect.

Missing from the release (1)

WCguru42 (1268530) | about 4 years ago | (#33717018)

A few things I'd like to have answered

1. What's the battery life on this bad boy.
2. Why no cell network connection out the gate.
3. Some sort of estimate on price.

I'm glad they're doing a redesigned OS for this. The tablet market should get real interesting in the next few years.

"Play"book (4, Insightful)

Teese (89081) | about 4 years ago | (#33717026)

Targeted at business users but called a playbook, eh? Seems like an odd name for that.

Re:"Play"book (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33717046)

Not really. It panders to business speak ... "oh, we'll take a page from their playbook" - eg: referring to strategy, not a gaming platform.

I know a bunch of alpha salespeople / marketers that are gonna love this thing, even if it is crap.

Re:"Play"book (4, Insightful)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | about 4 years ago | (#33717238)

Not really. It panders to business speak ... "oh, we'll take a page from their playbook" - eg: referring to strategy, not a gaming platform.

I know a bunch of alpha salespeople / marketers that are gonna love this thing, even if it is crap.

RIM should create a phone called the "New Paradigm". I wish I could say I'm aiming for a 'funny' here but I used to work at a place where 'Buzzword Bingo' was a way us engineering-peons really passed the time during meetings.

Re:"Play"book (1)

owlnation (858981) | about 4 years ago | (#33717750)

"RIM should create a phone called the "New Paradigm"."

"Synergy" would also be a good name for the same reason. Absolutely would appeal to their core userbase.

Re:"Play"book (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | about 4 years ago | (#33717898)

Leverage and Core Strength.

Re:"Play"book (1)

L3370 (1421413) | about 4 years ago | (#33717114)

Their marketing dept figures the target audience to be business minded Alpha males that like to watch sports, drink beer, and complain about their wives at manly superbowl parties.

Re:"Play"book (1)

shoehornjob (1632387) | about 4 years ago | (#33717262)

Oh I don't know about that. It seems obvious they have some sort of sports thing going on here. Seems like a good choice to me.

Re:"Play"book (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33717740)

It's better than "Little Black Book".

Re:"Play"book (1)

fermion (181285) | about 4 years ago | (#33717872)

Given the focus on Flash and video output, it is probably a 'play with yourself book.' It has enough business use that it can be written of the taxes, but still be primarily used for entertainment.

A business device has no need for flash, unless one wants the firm to pay broadband for advertising. My favorite thing about the iPad is that I do not have use my limited broadband to download the flash ads. Sucks for firms that use flash ads, but that is their choice. Mostly I do not block non-flash ads.

QNX Neutrino... (1)

RocketRabbit (830691) | about 4 years ago | (#33717052)

I like that they are using QNX. Of course, this device will be just as awful as most blackberries.

Enterprise Ready (4, Interesting)

Sonny Yatsen (603655) | about 4 years ago | (#33717062)

RIM is touting this as enterprise ready, but a lot of the features seems more geared towards a toy gadget (being able to play all sorts of video and audio formats, 1080p output, etc) and less as a business tool. I don't know of many companies that will willingly hand their employees (after already giving them a Blackberry phone) an add-on device that seems like it's geared to kill productivity.

Re:Enterprise Ready (1)

MrHanky (141717) | about 4 years ago | (#33717142)

You can probably use that 1080p for presentations. It's not as if a laptop with Powerpoint necessarily will be more suited for it.

Re:Enterprise Ready (1)

KillaGouge (973562) | about 4 years ago | (#33717196)

would be really interesting to have the playbook output the presentation and the BlackBerry itself be the remote.

playbook? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33717160)

Should have named it Blackbook.

Re:playbook? (1)

Wowlapalooza (1339989) | about 4 years ago | (#33717460)

I suggested that the follow-on from Blackberry should be Dingleberry.

Where's the mention of the price? (3, Interesting)

tlhIngan (30335) | about 4 years ago | (#33717186)

One thing I seem to have missed is the price.

How much is this thing? $500?

It's just like that Android tablet by Samsung - why is there no announcement on price? Even subsidized prices if you must. Rumored pricing has it expensive, though.

And now this thing comes out with a ton of nice specs, but no pricing.

Heck, at least Jobs announced the iPad's price when he did the iPad keynote.

Re:Where's the mention of the price? (1)

MBCook (132727) | about 4 years ago | (#33717496)

My first through when reading the specs was the "symmetric multiprocessing support". I'm not sure tablets really need dual cores. My first thought when seeing that in something like a 7" tablet is they can't get their software to run smoothly enough on a single core, which would be worrying.

But the thing that REALLY stands out is the battery life. I isn't mentioned anywhere, but that was one of Apple's big selling points on the iPad. The fact that it has dual cores makes me think it's not going to last long. The smaller screen should help.

Re:Where's the mention of the price? (1)

nomel (244635) | about 4 years ago | (#33717626)

Dual core is always nice. That way, OS functions (like touch processing/gesture recognition, backgound anything, etc) can be separate from the application process giving consistency/no jumpy lag. Especially if you're watching something as intensive as a 2 megapixel video.

Re:Where's the mention of the price? (1)

Major Blud (789630) | about 4 years ago | (#33717622)

Since you have to pair it with an existing BlackBerry for 3G connectivity, I'd assume that subsidized pricing can be ruled out....unless they offer it alongside phones with new contracts (much like AT&T giving out free Netbooks with new contracts).

Re:Where's the mention of the price? (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | about 4 years ago | (#33717890)

You'd have to factor in the cost of a blackberry too. They seem to be really plugging BlackBery phone integration with this thing.

Which is a bold move, they've got the market share that this isn't a stupid decision. Between BB6, and this, I think BlackBerry's got some fat quarters ahead of itself. Even if this thing is stupid expensive, this isn't meant for the teenager who got a blackberry pearl so they could text on a QWERTY keyboard and maybe play Tetris.

QNX (1)

TheCount22 (952106) | about 4 years ago | (#33717224)

A tablet with QNX sounds like a cool idea. From what I remember QNX is extremely fast and responsive.

I am not sure it will sell however.

In any case give me shell access and I'll buy one.

Perfect Tablet (2, Informative)

copponex (13876) | about 4 years ago | (#33717244)

Triple core ARM setup with HD video playback
Symmetrical rectangular ABS plastic frame with shatterproof glass
- docking port/HDMI on the bottom
- USB3 on left and right
- evenly spaced screw beds around the sides for accessory bodies/attachments
- VESA plate for the back
PixelQi display (indoor/outdoor/e-ink)
Stylus or touch input
Front and rear 3 to 5MP cameras
- allow slack for the rear camera connection so the lens can be integrated into a larger body
Built in stereo mic
Built in stereo speakers
Mini PCI slot instead of built in 3G
GPS with compass
Accelerometers

Keep things squared off and let the consumer decide if they want to buy cheap silicone to round it off. That makes it easier for vendors to design bodies to add laser scanners or extended batteries or label printers or whatever.

Re:Perfect Tablet (1)

nomel (244635) | about 4 years ago | (#33717712)

PixelQi display (indoor/outdoor/e-ink)

I think this and single or even multi pixel illumination will be the biggest movement in the nearish future displays. The whole concept of blasting full brightness/power for a black screen (with current backlight displays) is just insane/dumb for mobile applications.

I think the coolest, but probably not very useful, future of PixelQi type displays is the possibility for true color displays....as in each pixel can be any color of the rainbow, emitting the wavelength of that color rather than the poor gamut of RGB. The lack of brightness control for the color pixels of these types of screens probably totally kills and "better quality" claims though...unless they just pulse the colors...maybe in the future.

Re:Perfect Tablet (1)

EEPROMS (889169) | about 4 years ago | (#33717918)

or just get a wetab

http://wetab.mobi/en [wetab.mobi]

yet another tablet (1)

cuby (832037) | about 4 years ago | (#33717246)

Buzz word driven evolution. Two years ago were netbooks, last year were ebook readers and this year we have tablets. Everyone needs to get its costumed or proprietary gadget on the market, just to mark a position. I don't see market for all this stuff. Who need a cell phone (or 2), netbook, ebook reader and tablet at the same time? I predict gadjet saturation.

Re:yet another tablet (1)

vlueboy (1799360) | about 4 years ago | (#33717732)

I don't see market for all this stuff. Who need a cell phone (or 2), netbook, ebook reader and tablet at the same time? I predict gadget saturation.

If saturation does happen, we'll welcome it! I'm tiring of waiting for $200 price tags for netbooks, Android smartphones and tablets. Amazon's ereader finally got way under that mark, an my wallet is itching for more supply so I can demand low prices.

Subsidized contracts bring lock-in and force you into data plans even if you just want a lightweight wifi device to carry with no 3G service. Maybe next year's christmas gifts will include these cheap tablets?

Re:yet another tablet (1)

Reaperducer (871695) | about 4 years ago | (#33717978)

I'm tiring of waiting for $200 price tags for netbooks

You've already missed the boat. I paid $137 for my eeePC 701 (Buy or Overstock, I forget which one). Unforuntately, you really can't get a TRUE netbook anymore, just notebooks with netbook stickers.

Never before have I seen such a perfect example of feature bloat destroying a niche.

Suprising (1)

MrDoh! (71235) | about 4 years ago | (#33717282)

That actually looks pretty good. It's got all the must have features any new tablet will have to provide, and if direct access to the Blackberry servers, not having 3G for huge offices could be usefull for some corporations. Might as well use their in-building wireless with all it's controls.
I don't see this as an iPad competitor, but Android, as long as it comes out REALLY early in 2011 and has decent battery life and reasonable price. Doesn't need to be cheaper considering they're after the business market, just reasonable. Considering they ARE aiming for their existing market, not having an itunes like media/apps center could be seen as an advantage "Your execs desperate for a tablet but you don't want them playing Angry Birds all day? use this! With a set of policies able to be locked down, your drones will be doing what YOU want them to do".

Will compete with iPad v2 - it's all about cost (1)

rsborg (111459) | about 4 years ago | (#33717292)

The fact that RIM decided to release this vapor statement says more about RIM than about what we should expect the product to do... aside from the geek-inspiring stats, there was no mention of battery life or cost, which are probably more important for such a device than whether it's running a dual-core processor

I do think their recent acquisition of QNX combined with their copying the looks of WebOS are strategically wise, but so was the hype on the original "Storm" but their hardware implementation was a faceplant (Storm 2 is much better).

I wish them luck... if the Android tablets continue to be cripped by the contract required for Market access [pcworld.com] issue, they may make some headway... will be a bonus for them if Microsoft continues to stumble on the mobile front (WP7 looks promising, but MS is late to the game).

1 Ghz Dual Core CPU? (1)

DJCouchyCouch (622482) | about 4 years ago | (#33717334)

Is that so they can get Flash to run at acceptable speeds?

Re:1 Ghz Dual Core CPU? (1)

dammy (131759) | about 4 years ago | (#33717430)

I'm just wondering if it's ARM or x86 based. Hate it when the leave out the tech details.

Until I can buy one, who cares? (1)

walterbyrd (182728) | about 4 years ago | (#33717346)

Sick to death of announcements about tablets that I can not buy. As usual, no news about price, or release date.

Until I can buy one, these types of announcements are just annoyances.

QNX Tablet (1)

TheCount22 (952106) | about 4 years ago | (#33717404)

In my mind this isn't really a RIM tablet. This is a QNX tablet made by the team who made the QNX operating system.

That RIM now owns QNX doesn't really change much in the short term. This is going to be awesome!

What's with the humongous bezels? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33717486)

Seriously, every tablet seems to have this design quirk. Either increase the screen size, or shrink the case down to whatever panel you are using.

Re:What's with the humongous bezels? (2, Informative)

jinushaun (397145) | about 4 years ago | (#33717860)

You must have never used a tablet for any serious amount of time...

If the bezel on the iPad was any smaller, it would border on useless due to inadvertent touches. The wide bezels gives you an area to actually grab/hold the tablet. Otherwise, you're touching the touch screen and all hell breaks loose. It's not always feasible to cradle or rest the tablet on a surface. (E.g., reading in bed)

While a narrower bezel would look "cooler", it has no basis in reality. Some concepts remain concepts for a reason.

Business needs this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33717642)

Avaya's announced the Flare, Cisco has something else I can't remember the name of, and RIM has this. Once the technology is strong enough, and orgs don't need to put core2duos on every desk, you've got a complete platform that docks at home or work and pulls all your business apps together. Give it 5 years to take off.

Playbook? (1)

Vector Meson (84092) | about 4 years ago | (#33717724)

I thought they were going to call it the RIMshot!

QNX (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33717830)

A kickass OS. I recall their legendary floppy disk that autodetected an ethernet or modem connection and launched a web browser. They were also the OS on the I-Opener (still have mine).

Application memory limit (1)

landoltjp (676315) | about 4 years ago | (#33717994)

Lazaridis said it wont require new data plans, new security or anything new.

I wonder, since they're not changing their security, if they'll stick with a 64Meg application memory limit

ppbbtt!! (1)

eyenot (102141) | about 4 years ago | (#33718002)

BlackBerries hanging on for RIM job completion!

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