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OpenOffice.org Declares Independence From Oracle, Becomes LibreOffice

CmdrTaco posted about 4 years ago | from the because-they-can dept.

Oracle 648

Google85 writes "The OpenOffice.org Project has unveiled a major restructuring that separates itself from Oracle and that takes responsibility for OpenOffice away from a single company. From now on, OpenOffice's development and direction will be decided by a steering committee of developers and national language project managers. Driving home the changes, the OpenOffice.org project is now The Document Foundation, while the OpenOffice.org suite has been given the temporary name of LibreOffice."

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Yeah (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722214)

Design by committee.

Re:Yeah (0, Troll)

mweather (1089505) | about 4 years ago | (#33722486)

Hasn't hurt Microsoft.

Viva La Libre Office! (2, Interesting)

AnonymousClown (1788472) | about 4 years ago | (#33722218)

I think they should keep the name! I can think of a zillion internet memes that will promote the product!

What's the deal with the cursor here on Slashdot?!?! Edit ing i s becom ing a p a in i nthe ass!

Re:Viva La Libre Office! (1)

i_ate_god (899684) | about 4 years ago | (#33722442)

Vive l'Office! Vive l'Office libre!

reference [wikipedia.org]

Re:Viva La Libre Office! (0)

WED Fan (911325) | about 4 years ago | (#33722648)

Reminds me, a little, of when WordPerfect was whored out to Novell then to Corel where it languished into obsurity. Goodbye, OpenOffice, we knew ye well, sleep the sleep of the dead.

It's all in the name (0, Flamebait)

benbean (8595) | about 4 years ago | (#33722230)

Well that's bollocksed up what little name recognition it had then. Well done OSS community. Shot itself in the foot with infighting again.

Re:It's all in the name (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722286)

Tensions between the open source community and Oracle, a big proprietary software company, can hardly be called infighting in the OSS community.

Re:It's all in the name (5, Insightful)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | about 4 years ago | (#33722646)

Yeah, really. It was either this, or see the project get scrapped and a new, proprietary "OracleOffice.org" get released a few weeks later. I'm glad to see open source resisting becoming assimilated and crushed because a major backer got acquired.

Re:It's all in the name (2, Interesting)

0racle (667029) | about 4 years ago | (#33722308)

There is a good chance Oracle owns the OpenOffice.org name. If they break with Oracle (a good idea) they're going to have to leave it behind.

Re:It's all in the name (3, Informative)

Steve Max (1235710) | about 4 years ago | (#33722476)

That's exactly what TFA says they've done. Actually, they even invited Oracle to join the new community and donate the OpenOffice.org name.

Re:It's all in the name (3, Insightful)

Culture20 (968837) | about 4 years ago | (#33722490)

There is a good chance Oracle owns the OpenOffice.org name.

Good. They can have it. Who ever heard of a piece of software being named after its website?

Re:It's all in the name (5, Funny)

Sir_Lewk (967686) | about 4 years ago | (#33722680)

Well it's not really that I like or use it (I'm a latex guy...), but I enjoyed being able to put "experience in Oracle's OpenOffice.org" on my resume. Helps get it past HR goons who only grep for a few words. ;)

Re:It's all in the name (5, Informative)

desertrat_it (650209) | about 4 years ago | (#33722322)

You're kind of... wrong.

It's taking a vitally important piece of software out of the hands of a commercial company which has not shown a great deal of respect for the principles of free, libre, open source software.

If you RFTA, it states that they have asked Oracle to donate the OpenOffice.org name to the project. Oracle's response to this request will really define Oracle's relationship with the FLOSS community.

Re:It's all in the name (0)

benbean (8595) | about 4 years ago | (#33722446)

Which is all very noble. I'm just saying OO already had a mountain to climb without its supporters attaching heavy weights to its backpack. Or, erm, something.

Re:It's all in the name (1)

FauxPasIII (75900) | about 4 years ago | (#33722804)

As opposed to willful trademark violation? What, exactly, are you proposing the OOO developers should have done here?

Re:It's all in the name (1, Funny)

somersault (912633) | about 4 years ago | (#33722824)

I'm just saying OO already had a mountain to climb without its supporters attaching heavy weights to its backpack. Or, erm, something.

This is Slashdot! It's "OO already had a mountain to climb without attaching a trailer to their truck".

Re:It's all in the name (1)

grub (11606) | about 4 years ago | (#33722468)


If you RFTA, it states that they have asked Oracle to donate the OpenOffice.org name to the project. Oracle's response to this request will really define Oracle's relationship with the FLOSS community.

What's really sad is that if Oracle were to come back with "You can have the name for one million dollars" the LibreOffice people wouldn't be able to come up with the money. Chump change for Ellison, deal breaker for OSS.

Re:It's all in the name (3, Insightful)

MonsterTrimble (1205334) | about 4 years ago | (#33722620)

What's really sad is that if Oracle were to come back with "You can have the name for one million dollars" the LibreOffice people wouldn't be able to come up with the money. Chump change for Ellison, deal breaker for OSS.

I think the monatary amount would be beside the point. If Oracle said that they could have it for $1000 I would tell them to turn it sideways and shove it up their asses. Oracle has basically given the finger to FOSS so why deal with them at all unless they are truly willing to give up something of value?

Personally, I think LibreOffice should pick a new name, totally redo the icon set and then have the big three push it like crazy. I think the biggest problem with LibreOffice is that it's ugly. Sad, but true.

Re:It's all in the name (1)

desertrat_it (650209) | about 4 years ago | (#33722752)

As it's just in the beta stage, maybe they'll resolve the UI issues.

Maybe they won't... who knows :)

Re:It's all in the name (1)

MonsterTrimble (1205334) | about 4 years ago | (#33722858)

God, I hope so.

Maybe if we're REALLY REALLY lucky they could talk to the guys from Scribus [scribus.net] and Inkscape [inkscape.org] and do something really cool together. LibreOffice has the mass, Scribus & Inkscape have the game. It could be a win-win for all.

Re:It's all in the name (2, Insightful)

Abstrackt (609015) | about 4 years ago | (#33722330)

Well that's bollocksed up what little name recognition it had then. Well done OSS community. Shot itself in the foot with infighting again.

Sadly, I have to agree. Add to that the fact that it appears half the population doesn't know how to pronounce "libre" or even what it means and it's hard to see how this change can help rather than hurt.

Re:It's all in the name (5, Funny)

rrossman2 (844318) | about 4 years ago | (#33722444)

Sure we do! It's that Zodiak symbol between Virgo and Scorpio, right?

Weird sounding name (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722412)

Well that's bollocksed up what little name recognition it had then. Well done OSS community. Shot itself in the foot with infighting again.

More importantly, by choosing a name that lots of English speakers won't even know how to pronounce, they've isolated themselves even more. They'd have done better if they'd chosen an abstract name like "Firefox" or "Apache."

  Lee Bray Office? Sounds like an evangelical preacher's fundraising department.

Re:Weird sounding name (5, Funny)

Culture20 (968837) | about 4 years ago | (#33722616)

More importantly, by choosing a name that lots of English speakers won't even know how to pronounce, they've isolated themselves even more. They'd have done better if they'd chosen an abstract name like "Firefox" or "Apache."

Lee Bray Office? Sounds like an evangelical preacher's fundraising department.

Make the mascot a Zebra, and the English speakers will suddenly pick up on it.

"I have to finish my book report by tomorrow, but I've only got the files, no Microsoft Word."
"Here, I know where to get a cracked copy."
"Stop right there, children!"
(together)"Wow! It's the Libre Zebra!"
"That's right, and I'm here to tell you about LibreOffice, a free office suite that promotes the gnu values of liberty, justice, and apple pie!"
(together)"Thanks, Libre Zebra!"

Only if you speak US English (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722750)

Make the mascot a Zebra, and the English speakers will suddenly pick up on it.

Only the North American manglers of the English language will. (maybe)

I for one don't say Zeeeeeeebra.

Re:Weird sounding name (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722850)

You do know that only people in the US say zee, right? Everywhere else it's zed, so to the rest of us "English speakers" it's not zeebra, it's zehbra.

Re:It's all in the name (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722624)

Are you that ignorant?

Probably the best thing to happen (4, Insightful)

TheLinuxSRC (683475) | about 4 years ago | (#33722238)

This is probably the best thing to happen to openoffice.org since the sale of Sun to Oracle. Almost all of Sun's open source projects have either been neglected (abandoned?) by Oracle or moved to a less-friendly license (OpenSolaris anyone?).

Re:Probably the best thing to happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722614)

This is the *best* thing? Man, somebody's finally hit bottom.

Let the healing begin.

LibreOffice . . . . (1)

LuckySweetheart (1515653) | about 4 years ago | (#33722242)

There's got to be a joke in there somewhere.

Awesome News for Microsoft (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722248)

Now no one will take OpenOffice... err... I mean LibreOffice seriously and continue using Microsoft Office unabated.

Re:Awesome News for Microsoft (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722484)

# apt-get install ms-office
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package ms-office

Re:Awesome News for Microsoft (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722776)

Use a real OS, and that wouldn't be a problem. Neither would the lack of all the other software that Linux users are forced to live with.

Re:Awesome News for Microsoft (1)

Mongoose Disciple (722373) | about 4 years ago | (#33722848)

And that's different from what was already happening, how? :)

Oh no! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722268)

When I see names of this kind I know that the project is now dead.

Re:Oh no! (4, Insightful)

MikeyO (99577) | about 4 years ago | (#33722494)

When I see names of this kind I know that the project is now dead.

You mean like how it [didn't] die when transitioning from "StarOffice" to "OpenOffice.org"?

Why the new name? (1)

LocoBurger (18797) | about 4 years ago | (#33722284)

Does Oracle own the OpenOffice name? I've been annoyed that it was officially called OpenOffice.org. That's name of a website, not a piece of software..

Re:Why the new name? (1)

alci63 (1856480) | about 4 years ago | (#33722354)

Yes, OpenOffice trademark is owned by Oracle. The new foundation says they hope Oracle will transfer it to them :-) I doubt they will !

Re:Why the new name? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722430)

Yes, OpenOffice trademark is owned by Oracle.

Oracle own the OpenOffice.org trademark (not OpenOffice), OpenOffice.org is OpenOffice,org because another group already owned the OpenOffice trademark.

http://www.openoffice.org/about_us/summary.html

Re:Why the new name? (2, Insightful)

catbutt (469582) | about 4 years ago | (#33722384)

So this is an improvement then, in a sense. The ".org" thing was idiotic.

Rather than idiotic, the name LibreOffice is simply dumb. I'm not even sure how to pronounce it. But I guess dumb is a step up from idiotic.

Re:Why the new name? (1)

Isaac-Lew (623) | about 4 years ago | (#33722640)

Just because a product's name is dumb doesn't mean it won't be successful. See: Nintendo Wii, Apple iPad.

Re:Why the new name? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722740)

Rather than idiotic, the name LibreOffice is simply dumb. I'm not even sure how to pronounce it. But I guess dumb is a step up from idiotic.

Hate to break it to you, but the fact that you can't be bothered to spend 5 seconds googling how to pronounce an unfamiliar word doesn't make the word dumb.

Re:Why the new name? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722528)

They might be forced to change it. I think they were cleverly trying to avoid naming it FreeOffice. How about a slight change to 'FreedomOffice' ? 'Free' makes you think it's not worth much, i.e. a cheap watered down version of something better, but with 'Freedom' i get the connotation that i'm being freed from something... Just a thought.... Juuuuust a thought.

Laudable goal, but can it work? (3, Interesting)

bomanbot (980297) | about 4 years ago | (#33722326)

I think putting the (former) OpenOffice on independent footing away from a single corporation is a laudable goal and a good idea, but can it work this way?

As far as I remember, one of the problems OpenOffice always had was that most of the developers were paid developers inside Sun who worked on OpenOffice full-time. I thought the code was kind of a mess and hard to decipher for anyone outside, so the project always fought for more volunteers, but could not get many. Has this changed?

Because otherwise, OpenOffice development, while now technically being independent from Oracle, might still by all accounts be entirely dependent on Oracle goodwill if most of the meaningful development can still only be done by those full-time developers inside Oracle.

This might work however, if that new-founded Foundation can somehow acquire enough funding to ease away those internal developers as well and continue paying them to work on OpenOffice full-time. I am not sure if that is feasible, however.

Re:Laudable goal, but can it work? (5, Informative)

loftwyr (36717) | about 4 years ago | (#33722520)

A large number of Sun developers worked on OOo but there was also a large number of other devs willing to work that couldnt' get their patches committed. That's why go-oo.org was created with a huge patchset. Sun had a large "not invented here" mindset that stopped a lot of open source devs from continuing to work on it.

Now that OOo is LibreOffice, perhaps the huge go-oo patchset can be committed and the unofficial "not-a-fork" can end.

I'm looking forward to all the new features and such that will be able to be added.

Re:Laudable goal, but can it work? (1)

Vectormatic (1759674) | about 4 years ago | (#33722556)

if OO was that dependant on Sun goodwill, they are right to cut away and run. Oracle will probably (if it hasnt already) cut those developers working on company time anyway.

I can only hope they can get enough goodwill from the current developers to somewhat transfer it over to a real community-supported project.

Re:Laudable goal, but can it work? (3, Informative)

neothoron (1402383) | about 4 years ago | (#33722590)

There are two enormous reasons OpenOffice has always failed to attract developers outside from Sun:
- Copyright assignment: if you don't assign all copyright of your code to Sun, then it cannot be in OpenOffice.
- Bureaucratic obstruction: Sun's QA had to validate your code through a lengthy process before you could even think about it being accepted.

In short, Sun managed OpenOffice's development the same way any proprietary software's development would have been managed. Is it really surprising then, that Sun failed to attract outside developers?

SabreOffice! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722336)

Sabre Office would be muuuuch better...

Why do open source projects pick stupid names? (4, Insightful)

vinn (4370) | about 4 years ago | (#33722340)

LibreOffice? Seriously? What a horrid name. We're not French and the percentage of the population that understands what Libre means is nil.

There's a reason we're all geeks and not in marketing. However, we all have friends who have a bit savviness when it comes to creativity. Quit being a geek and ask for help.

This is no different than the Diaspora project. Even if that project had the technical side working, it'd still fail because the name is so stupid. You can't compete against a product named "Facebook" when your name is "Diaspora".

Re:Why do open source projects pick stupid names? (1)

bl8n8r (649187) | about 4 years ago | (#33722462)

> LibreOffice? Seriously? What a horrid name. We're not French and the percentage of the
> population that understands what Libre means is nil.

Oh, c'mon now, what do you mean French? Everyone has seen the movie and knows the reference to Mexican Wrestling. It's quite obvious, I don't see the problem.

Re:Why do open source projects pick stupid names? (2, Informative)

thethibs (882667) | about 4 years ago | (#33722726)

Actually, the reference is to a drink--the Cuba Libre. What could be more evocative of the open source community than dictatorship, coke and rum?

Re:Why do open source projects pick stupid names? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722778)

NACHOOOOOOOOOOOO

office

Re:Why do open source projects pick stupid names? (1)

Xacid (560407) | about 4 years ago | (#33722464)

I actually kind of like the name Diaspora...

Re:Why do open source projects pick stupid names? (1)

kabloom (755503) | about 4 years ago | (#33722518)

Maybe English speakers will become used to the word "Libre" and save us from the Free-as-in-beer vs Free-as-in-speech ambiguity of the word "free".

On the other hand, maybe they should try to be more inventive with the name, and invent something totally new without direct office or software libre associations.

Re:Why do open source projects pick stupid names? (3, Informative)

Vectormatic (1759674) | about 4 years ago | (#33722610)

it is also spanish... which a significant amount of 'the population' (i assume you mean you americans) do speak.

(also, get over yourself, encountering a single word which isnt in the american dictionary is no reason to panic)

Re:Why do open source projects pick stupid names? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722652)

Shed a tear for PostgreSQL

Re:Why do open source projects pick stupid names? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722662)

We're not French and the percentage of the population that understands what Libre means is nil.

Why would they care what it means? They might have trouble deciding how to pronounce it but I doubt they'll care about "meaning" any more than they lose sleep worrying over what a "google" is. It just isn't an issue.

Re:Why do open source projects pick stupid names? (3, Informative)

yet-another-lobbyist (1276848) | about 4 years ago | (#33722686)

That's why they say "temporary". They realize it's important, so they want to get it right and take their time (and possibly even involve some savvy people from the community). So what are you complaining about? OK, this is slashdot, so it's not cool to RTFA. However, not even reading the summary? That's taking it too far, dude (or duderette)...

Re:Why do open source projects pick stupid names? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722712)

In the summary it says: "the OpenOffice.org suite has been given the temporary name of LibreOffice.". It takes time to think of a good name, and maybe they didn't have that. They could not keep the old name, so they decided to call it LibreOffice for the time being. I'm sure once everything is settled down they'll pick a permanent name.

Re:Why do open source projects pick stupid names? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722716)

LibreOffice? Seriously? What a horrid name. We're not French[...]

Spoken like a true American!

Re:Why do open source projects pick stupid names? (1)

Fnkmaster (89084) | about 4 years ago | (#33722746)

Diaspora is still a real word with some meaning. It's not a fantastic name, not as simple and memorable as Facebook, but I don't think the name is the thing preventing Diaspora from competing - they have no working code, horrid architectural issues, and bad security problems. In fact, the one thing they have going for them is lots of good press, so I would argue the name isn't hurting them at all. Facebook was driven by early adopters at certain university communities - in addition to lacking functionality, Diaspora doesn't have a community it appeals to strongly yet.

LibreOffice, on the other hand, is a decent, well-known and respected product that has taken a good name "OpenOffice" (well, officially, "OpenOffice.org", but nobody called it anything other than OpenOffice since calling a product by a website name is stupid) and made it horrible. Unless they fix the situation soon, they will rapidly lose market share to somebody else who forks the codebase with a better name.

Re:Why do open source projects pick stupid names? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722794)

Both spanish and portuguese speakers can easily understand it.

Re:Why do open source projects pick stupid names? (3, Funny)

Culture20 (968837) | about 4 years ago | (#33722834)

We're not French and the percentage of the population that understands what Libre means is nil.

No, but if you're talking about the United States, the percentage of the population that understands Spanish (sometimes exclusively) is quite high. If you're talking about the world, the percentage of people that understand French and/or Spanish high enough too. Also, it's quite close to libere, which is Latin (and Italian).

If you end up having trouble explaining what Libre means to an American, just say "like in Nacho Libre" If they didn't understand libre, they'll be excited to use software associated with a Black Jack movie.

Open Office, the scarlet A? (2, Interesting)

cgenman (325138) | about 4 years ago | (#33722342)

I wonder how much name recognition Open Office really had, and how much of that was positive. As much as I like the idea of a free open-source alternative to MS Office, and as much as I relied on it for specific tasks, for at least 5 years I've wanted them to fix the bloated mess that it has become. They never have, and many people hate it for that.

If they can get some real movement under their wings now, and separate out the fat, a break with the OO name might just be the Mozilla / Firefoxification the suite needs.

Re:Open Office, the scarlet A? (1)

denis-The-menace (471988) | about 4 years ago | (#33722408)

FreeOffice anyone?

Re:Open Office, the scarlet A? (3, Insightful)

JeffSpudrinski (1310127) | about 4 years ago | (#33722672)

They aren't intending to change the software...at least not initially.

From LibreOffice's FAQ:

Q: So is this a breakaway project?
A: Not at all. The Document Foundation will continue to be focused on developing, supporting, and promoting the same software, and it's very much business as usual. We are simply moving to a new and more appropriate organisational model for the next decade - a logical development from Sun's inspirational launch a decade ago.

***
I think this is the community's way of trying to push Oracle into releasing the name to them.

I doubt very much that Larry Ellison will let go of it due to name recognition (name recognition is worth $$$ from a marketing standpoint).

Just my $0.02.

-JJS

Not good. (1)

unity100 (970058) | about 4 years ago | (#33722358)

constant name changes are not good. destroys product name recognition.

Say that ten times fast (2, Funny)

dmomo (256005) | about 4 years ago | (#33722368)

Lee Burr Office? Glad it's temporary. Sounds like something said drunkenly to a cop after getting pulled over.

How I KNOW this will work (4, Interesting)

MonsterTrimble (1205334) | about 4 years ago | (#33722374)

Some of the supporters: FSF, Google, Novell, Red Hat, and Canonical.

When those guys are with you - it'll happen. My only question is if OpenOffice will become LibreOffice next month with the new releases of Ubuntu, OpenSUSE & Fedora or if it'll wait until spring?

Re:How I KNOW this will work (1)

neothoron (1402383) | about 4 years ago | (#33722692)

As far as I know, Ubuntu, OpenSUSE and Fedora already integrate by default a fork of OpenOffice named Go-OO (http://go-oo.org), which, for all intents and purposes, will be identical to the early versions of LibreOffice. (In fact I suspect that Go-OO's patches, or Go-OO itself, constitute the starting point for LibreOffice.)

Re:How I KNOW this will work (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about 4 years ago | (#33722768)

Some of the supporters: FSF, Google, Novell, Red Hat, and Canonical.

One of these things is not like the other... Google's support is only as good as it's current business plan. Right now it probably sees OO as another small piece in the fight against Microsoft's hegemony - but given Google's desire to replace Microsoft Office with it's own web-based office product, I wouldn't place too much weight (or hope) on Google's support. I'm sure they're providing money, which of course any project needs - but outside of that it's probably just perfunctory lip-service.

The 63 k question && answer from the FAQ (5, Interesting)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | about 4 years ago | (#33722388)

Q: Why are you building a new web infrastructure?

A: Since Oracle's takeover of Sun Microsystems, the Community has been under "notice to quit" from our previous Collabnet infrastructure. With today's announcement of a Foundation, we now have an entity which can own our emerging new infrastructure.

Basically Oracle told them their lease was up. Yea Oracle! I didn't already have enough reasons to loathe thee.

Re:The 63 k question && answer from the FA (2, Interesting)

Archangel Michael (180766) | about 4 years ago | (#33722650)

Oracle doesn't care about their "brand" any more. They only care about profits at any cost. The problem with this economically, is that eventually people see through the hype and start to find alternative products that fill the need. Take a look ...

Oracle buys Sun, and Solaris instantly becomes next to worthless, except for Oracle DBs and big Corporation purchases.
Sun gets Java and immediately starts rebranding it, breaking software. Nice testing there Oracle.
Sun gets OpenOffice and tell the team "go away"

Oracle is eating itself alive. And that makes the books look good for the short term. We IT guys are already looking for ways to get off your anti-customer products and services. It might take a while, but we're already starting the process

Hey Oracle ... Nice going.

Re:The 63 k question && answer from the FA (1)

Vectormatic (1759674) | about 4 years ago | (#33722674)

Yea Oracle! I didn't already have enough reasons to loathe thee.

Rumors are going round that Oracle wants to aquire a chip-manufacturer, candidates apparently are AMD and NVIDIA, i guess Larry Elison wont rest untill he single handled destroyed the IT world as we know it.. (i can imagine it now, AMD in oracle hands, sharp focus on VERY expensive server CPUs, a quickly dying line of consumer chips leaving both intel and Nvidia without real competition, halting all serious evolution in both GPU and CPU products)

bad name (1)

i_ate_god (899684) | about 4 years ago | (#33722414)

Lots of people won't be able to pronounce it properly. They will call it "Leeber Office". I think it will hurt the brand.

Re:bad name (2, Insightful)

swordgeek (112599) | about 4 years ago | (#33722504)

It's temporary--this is pretty common. A new name will be created to clearly demarcate that a Change Has Happened, and then a real name is sorted out over time.

Re:bad name (1)

loftwyr (36717) | about 4 years ago | (#33722550)

who cares how it's pronounced? How man pronounce Linux [sladen.org] correctly?

Re:bad name (1)

Steve Max (1235710) | about 4 years ago | (#33722570)

Le Beer Office? I like that.

Re:bad name (1)

thethibs (882667) | about 4 years ago | (#33722792)

The 'r' is silent. It's LibbyOffice.

Mysql as well? (1)

hcs_$reboot (1536101) | about 4 years ago | (#33722454)

Any chance to see mysql freed from Oracle as well?

Re:Mysql as well? (1)

vlm (69642) | about 4 years ago | (#33722632)

Any chance to see mysql freed from Oracle as well?

Yeah, they're rebranding as "Postgresql"

(Just kidding! Just kidding!)

Re:Mysql as well? (1)

dkleinsc (563838) | about 4 years ago | (#33722688)

If that principle is important to you, consider PostGres, which is much less tied to specific companies.

Re:Mysql as well? (1)

neothoron (1402383) | about 4 years ago | (#33722730)

Already done: http://mariadb.org/ [mariadb.org]

Problem: The MySQL trademarks and support contracts cannot be forked as easily as code can.

Sounds good (for now). Please live up to it! (3, Insightful)

yet-another-lobbyist (1276848) | about 4 years ago | (#33722480)

My first reaction is: Thank God. I didn't have a very good feeling where things were going after the Oracle takeover and some of their later business decisions (OpenSolaris). Of course, it all depends on how the new foundation will steer things, and I don't know anyone who is part of this, so it's hard to make a judgment. So my hope is that they will at least not make things worse, and maybe this is a even chance to re-energize the project and take it to the next level.

Dear Document Foundation:
Please live up to it, and make OOo (or LO) kick some ass. We need you!

May the force be with them!

Who cares (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722482)

Anything that takes more than a few hours to compile is bloatware.

Fold Go-oo back in, please. (1, Redundant)

Deslack (48390) | about 4 years ago | (#33722492)

http://go-oo.org/ [go-oo.org]

Better support for Open Office XML, whether we like it or not, is critical if we're thinking serious competition against Microsoft Office.

Re:Fold Go-oo back in, please. - already done (4, Informative)

Bill Dimm (463823) | about 4 years ago | (#33722684)

From the FAQ [documentfoundation.org] :

Q: What does this announcement mean to other derivatives of OpenOffice.org?

A: We want The Document Foundation to be open to code contributions from as many people as possible. We are delighted to announce that the enhancements produced by the Go-OOo team will be merged into LibreOffice, effective immediately. We hope that others will follow suit.

Awesome! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722546)

I want to build a time-machine travel to the future download the new LibreOffice onto an usbstick travel back in time and install it! I can't wait:)

Hate the name (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722552)

I'm known among friends and coworkers for constantly suggesting that people leave MSOffice and go to OOo.

You can be sure I won't be promoting going to the LOo nearly as aggressively.

What about Open Office (2, Interesting)

WhiteDragon (4556) | about 4 years ago | (#33722574)

I seem to recall that the reason they were called OpenOffice.org instead of just Open Office was because someone else owned the Open Office name. Does anyone know the status of that trademark?

Re:What about Open Office (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33722734)

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4007:tca449.3.1 Aside from hits from "Openoffice.org", here is what I've found.

Oooo, committees and managers (1)

countertrolling (1585477) | about 4 years ago | (#33722698)

Nothing but good things ahead

Then there's that little thing called Java

How "official" is this? (2, Interesting)

starseeker (141897) | about 4 years ago | (#33722756)

I don't see confirmation of this on the OpenOffice.org website - how "official" is this? The register article and the project website seem to indicate support from a lot of companies, but this seems to be quite the "bolt from the blue", so to speak - have there been rumblings of this behind the scenes?

From my standpoint, the two projects I was most concerned about when the Sun/Oracle deal was announced were OpenOffice.org and VirtualBox. There was a lot of noise about MySQL, but PostgreSQL is already out there as a very very viable (some would say better) alternative with a functioning community and long history. OpenSolaris never really became a major force in open source operating systems, so it's not likely to leave a bit hole. However, OpenOffice.org and VirtualBox both occupy highly user-visible spots in the open source world. OpenOffice.org has been absolutely key in breaking the "Microsoft Office" lock-in.

If this is for real the importance of this new project dwarfs the fate of MySQL. I really, really hope that enough resources are put behind the project to keep it viable and match compatibility with Microsoft Office, because if Linux no longer has the ability to easily read most Microsoft documents it will be one of the biggest hits to desktop viability that Linux distros could suffer.

MOOo (2, Funny)

xigxag (167441) | about 4 years ago | (#33722774)

Shoulda kept it simple and just called themselves "MegaOpenOffice.org" or something.

When is Java going to be phased out? (1)

Yuioup (452151) | about 4 years ago | (#33722782)

Can anybody provide a link to the roadmap? I'm wondering when Java is going to be removed from LibreOffice.

Any decisions as to what Java will be replaced with?

Y

LGPLv3 and patents (1)

ciaran_o_riordan (662132) | about 4 years ago | (#33722784)

Quoting Michael Meeks from (paywalled for 10 days) http://lwn.net/Articles/407339/ [lwn.net]

The OpenOffice.org code-base that LibreOffice is derived from is licensed under the LGPLv3 - which gives us all a strong explicit patent license, and a good copyright license, so no. Clearly for new code we would want a plus ["or any later version"] license, so we are considering recommending a LGPLv3+ / MPL combination for entirely new code.

NachoLibreOffice (3, Funny)

drumcat (1659893) | about 4 years ago | (#33722786)

It's obligatory... an office suite that wears stretchy pants... for fun. :)

A Sunny Day In Redmond (1)

westlake (615356) | about 4 years ago | (#33722812)

OpenOffice.org was - for all practical purposes - a wholly owned subsidiary of Sun.

Management. Staffing. Money and Resources.

Rather a lot of money - as I recall - some hundreds of millions of dollars spent in trying to make OpenOffice.org a competitive office suite.

Second-tier to this day - and far from the integrated office solutions being offered by Microsoft.

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