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Visual Depiction of Who Is Suing Who in Mobile

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the pretty-poor-graphic dept.

The Courts 175

Although the graphic itself won't win an award for design, Norman submitted a story about who's suing who in the mobile universe. From Apple to Qualcomm and pretty much everyone in between, it's a pretty impressive mess.

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Oink. (1)

NotAZombie (1702936) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798466)

Pigs at the trough.

Re:Oink. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33799176)

The oracle -> google suit looked pretty tacked on...

Re:Oink. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33799292)

The oracle -> google suit looked pretty tacked on...

I know exactly how you feel. Whenever I see a nigger joke on Slashdot that should be +5 Funny because it made me laugh, I always feel like the "Troll/Flamebait" mod looks pretty tacked on. Like whoever did it laughed just as hard as I did, then looked around to make sure no one saw him laughing at a nigger joke, then modded it down to again feel like one of the crowd.

Re:Oink. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33799318)

I know exactly how you feel. Whenever I see a nigger joke on Slashdot that should be +5 Funny because it made me laugh, I always feel like the "Troll/Flamebait" mod looks pretty tacked on. Like whoever did it laughed just as hard as I did, then looked around to make sure no one saw him laughing at a nigger joke, then modded it down to again feel like one of the crowd.

I know exactly how you feel. Whenever I see an offtopic post on Slashdot that should be +5 Funny because it made me laugh, I always feel like the "Offtopic" mod looks pretty tacked on. Like whoever did it laughed just as hard as I did, then looked around to make sure no one saw him laughing at an offtopic post, then modded it down to again feel like one of the crowd.

Journalism? WHO IS SUING WHOM -- Die, Slashdot! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33799878)

FYI--for those of you with third-grade educations

Objective case: WHOM

Re:Journalism? WHO IS SUING WHOM -- Die, Slashdot! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33799914)

Fuck off. Nobody cares anymore.

Why do niggers cry during sex? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33799366)

The pepper spray.

first lawsuit (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33798476)

......

Similarly... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33798480)

A graph of "Who is fucking over who" has Customers as a leaf node.

Re:Similarly... (1)

jgagnon (1663075) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798934)

In this case, a leafless tree would not survive the winter.

Kodak... (1)

sixpenny_83 (1248146) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798500)

... represent baby.. yeah!

The Lawyers win (5, Insightful)

Jackie_Chan_Fan (730745) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798512)

You should see the homes of some of these guys...

Re:The Lawyers win (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33798716)

No kidding. Like that one lawyers house where LeMarchand dropped off the newly completed Lament Configuration and the lawyer used it to summon a demon into the freshly husked skin of one of his maids. That was awesome.

Re:The Lawyers win (1)

snookerhog (1835110) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798888)

is there enough time for me to go to law school and graduate in time to cash in on all this nonsense?

Re:The Lawyers win (1)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799218)

I'm sure there will be plenty of nonsense when you graduate circa 2015.

By that point you'll probably have TV broadcasters suing Google, Apple, etc over interference caused by their TV Band/whitespace devices. You'll have these same companies suing to gain control of channels 26 and up for cellphones. Meanwhile Apple will be suing some clone maker who is selling an ePhone - basically a clone of the iPhone. Also that new open source project that mimics OS X 10.10 (Whine). RIAA/MPAA will be suing people bittorrenting to their cellphones. The customers will be suing to raise the 100 GB caps off their homes so they can watch hulu.com, while Comcast/Cox/etc will be suing to block hulu.com from airing programs that Comcast/Cox/etc funded (billions in fees to USA, TNT,ETC) and they consider their exclusive property.

And Microsoft will be getting sued by all of them (per usual).

competition (1)

bugi (8479) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798526)

Take that! That'll teach you to compete with me.

Re:competition (2, Insightful)

jgagnon (1663075) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798948)

It's not anti-competitive... the competition just moved into the courts.

Re:competition (1)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799266)

Maybe the courts should start charging 0.1 million per lawsuit to these corporations, in order to offset the added expense of operations (and also pay down the debt).

Of course fees for individuals would remain the same, so the rest of us can afford it.

Size? (1)

evilviper (135110) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798532)

It would be far more informative if the "balloon" for each company was sized based on gross sales, or some-such. That would at least differentiate between a large company with serveral lawsuits, and a tiny company with an inordinate number.

Re:Size? (4, Insightful)

Dogers (446369) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798628)

And even better if they sorted it out so that the arrows didn't overlap..

Why on earth does the Oracle-Google arrow overlap with the Nokia-Toshiba one? Specifically added confusion, that's why.

Re:Size? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33798688)

A planar embedding may not exist.

How are crossing edges confusing?

Re:Size? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798732)

A planar embedding may not exist.

That doesn't mean crossings shouldn't be minimized even if they can't be avoided.

Re:Size? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33798822)

Well, considering that Qualcomm is underlined for misspelling in the graph, I don't the author was particularly concerned with spending time on polish.

Re:Size? (1)

marcosdumay (620877) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799616)

A general graph may not be planar, but this one surely is.

Re:Size? (5, Insightful)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799000)

As a matter of fact, I did just that. Theirs is a hopeless mess of spaghetti.

http://ompldr.org/vNXFndg/lawsuitmap.gif [ompldr.org]

Re:Size? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33799736)

Pretty cool.

Now if someone else wanted to do exactly what this guy did, but vary the circle's diameter by how much each company has to fight their lawsuits, it would be even cooler.

Re:Size? (1)

OrigamiMarie (1501451) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799836)

. . . and you're slashdotted.

Re:Size? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33799972)

Thank you very much. I was just about to go to the trouble myself.

Re:Size? (2, Interesting)

JMZero (449047) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799016)

If you're wondering, there is a planar embedding for this graph (ie they could have avoided all crossing). GO MS PAINT! [jumpmanzero.com]

But yeah, not sure whether they're dumb, or just wanted it to look more imposing.

Re:Size? (1)

harlows_monkeys (106428) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799552)

And even better if they sorted it out so that the arrows didn't overlap..

Assuming I didn't miss an arrow or misread the direction of an arrow, here's a planar version [tzs.net] , courtesy of OmniGraffle's automatic layout and a little but of manual tweaking to remove a couple overlaps it still had.

Re:Size? (4, Interesting)

duranaki (776224) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798676)

Also I'd like to see some dotted lines to connect companies with cross-patent licensing agreements. For instance I know Kodak and Nokia have them, which is why Kodak is suing Apple and not Nokia.

Re:Size? (1)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799758)

There are also unnamed co-conspirators -- Google is suing Motorola (also HTC, though that was settled) and Apple is suing HTC, but they're really suing Google by proxy.

Re:Size? (1)

Motard (1553251) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799890)

Good idea. And also, say, blue lines for partnerships. Maybe another color for patent licenses.

... who is suing whom ... (3, Funny)

mkawick (190367) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798552)

Just saying

Abolish patents already. (2, Insightful)

unity100 (970058) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798556)

its been a few years, and we are at this point. compare the rate and think what a bigger mess it will be in 5-10 years.

Re:Abolish patents already. (1)

arivanov (12034) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798832)

Actually, that is not the only way of looking at this. IMO, more than everything, the diagram shows that the RAND process common in cellular standards does not work.
While the MPEG-LA may be a common hate figure on Slashdot looking at this diagram makes me think that there may be some method in their madness. Combining standards with 3rd party control over the patent pool seems to create a much more sane environment compared to RAND.

Re:Abolish patents already. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33798866)

Easy for you to say. I'm guessing you don't own a patent.

All this money and time (3, Insightful)

devent (1627873) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798598)

All this money and time wasted in the courts could be used to make better products and improve innovation. How are patents are suppose to promote the progress of useful arts again? We should just change the text to "to promote the progress of lawyers".

Re:All this money and time (1)

Alcoholist (160427) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799300)

It's like the heat death of the universe. After all the black holes go away all you'll have left are photons.

Our society is going down the same road. After everything is sued away all you'll have left is lawyers.

Re:All this money and time (1)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799948)

As we get more technology and more patents, there are more lawsuits - which is more money wasted on lawyers.

Eventually we'll reach a point where a company only produces one product, then spends the rest of its life defending itself from lawsuits. And this will be good for the consumers of course.

Technology marches on.

Business Success (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33798608)

It would be interesting to correlate this to how successful companies have been in recent years. Just looking at the diagram, it appears that businesses that are floundering tend to sue, or even moreso the opposite, businesses that are successful are getting more heat.

I like aisans (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33798618)

Look at the chart - Toshiba, Hitachi, HTC, Sharp, Samsung, Sony-Ericsson, LG - they're all being sued, but none of them are suing. The Europeans and Americans, though, ...

Re:I like aisans (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33798826)

@Anonymous\ Coward #asians are #copycats and don't do anything #original.

Microsoft.. (3, Insightful)

Quantus347 (1220456) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798626)

How is it that nobody is suing Microsoft? I mean...its Microsoft: Digital Evil since 1985. They've constantly been in one form of litigation or another for decades.

Re:Microsoft.. (4, Insightful)

Caerdwyn (829058) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798670)

Microsoft doesn't have anything anybody wants to emulate.

Re:Microsoft.. (1)

js3 (319268) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799594)

Seriously that makes no sense. Why would I sue a company I am emulating? You sue when someone steals something FROM you.. *looks at google*

Re:Microsoft.. (1)

Motard (1553251) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799774)

Cross licensing and proactive lawyers - both aligned to a strategy. I don't think it's any coincidence that they're touting low risk by indemnifying manufacturers against patent litigation.

Re:Microsoft.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33798686)

Also, the chart is wrong: Microsoft is not suing HTC.

Re:Microsoft.. (5, Insightful)

dattaway (3088) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798720)

Microsoft isn't delivering a product, so they can't be sued.

Actually, Microsoft is almost offering to be sued (2, Interesting)

Motard (1553251) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799996)

By indemnifying WP7 manufacturers against patent infringement suits, MS is basically assuming any legal threats itself - on behalf of its manufacturers.

Re:Microsoft.. (1)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799026)

From TFA ... because MS spent the last 30 years developing corner-cutting... errr, I mean, cutting-edge... software. Therefore they don't have a product, in mobile markets, they can be sued over.

Re:Microsoft.. (1)

dacut (243842) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799204)

Most companies are smart enough to let sleeping dogs lie.

Doing battle with Microsoft (or any other big name company) means a lot of money spent on legal fees, whether you're on the serving or receiving end of the lawsuit. If you do sue them, you had better hope that you can fund your lawyers through the duration of the case and that the expected payout is worth the expense.

While not directly a suit (1)

Lookin4Trouble (1112649) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798648)

Another thing to consider is who's charging exorbitant licensing fees from whom. Example: RIM is charging Microsoft a per-seat licensing fee for any Blackberry user whose account resides on a Microsoft-hosted email solution. I'm sure there are other examples, but my google-fu is weak.

Hey Microsoft (1)

mewsenews (251487) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798668)

If you can't innovate, litigate.. right?

Re:Hey Microsoft (1)

snookerhog (1835110) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798912)

has anyone ever shed light on the ratio of what MS spends on their R&D vs. Legal teams?

Re:Hey Microsoft (3, Informative)

maxume (22995) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799206)

Microsoft does, on an annual basis:

http://www.microsoft.com/investor/reports/ar09/10k_fr_dis.html [microsoft.com]

If you read through a bit, you will see that they currently incur legal expenses of about $500 million a year and spend about $9 billion a year on R&D.

(Of course, those legal expenses include settlements...)

Re:Hey Microsoft (2, Insightful)

RapmasterT (787426) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798926)

so out of a chart showing 17 companies suing each other, you've only got a pithy comment aimed at Microsoft?

Does that reveal a knee-jerk anti-microsoft bias, or an inability to comment on the actual subject matter...I guess that's not really an either-or question. never mind.

Re:Hey Microsoft (3, Insightful)

Locutus (9039) | more than 3 years ago | (#33800048)

no other company has 'touched' me so much as they have over the past 25 years so yes, they and their tactics always get my attention.

And as far as everyone else goes, these kinds of things have been going on for years but it is Microsoft who continues to do the most damage to competition. The others tend to figure out how to work thing out without initially destroying each other. Microsoft's business methods and practices are always based on protectionism as opposed to competition and their market position makes them the largest threat in the ring. They've lost 10s of billions on the Windows CE based productline yet it still exists. As with Internet Explorer they effectively pay vendors to ship their products until the competition has lost enough income they are easy pickings. That makes them the elephant in the room.

As for it being knee-jerk well if it were a demolition derby, when a competitor shows up in a armored tank, who but the blind isn't going to point that out?

LoB

Re:Hey Microsoft (1)

Tanman (90298) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798992)

If you innovate, then you get to litigate TWICE. Once to defend, and again to collect.

where is Palm(hp)? Where is RIm? (1)

way2trivial (601132) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798678)

have they fallen so far they aren't worth or can't afford lawyers?

Re:where is Palm(hp)? Where is RIm? (1)

TheClarkster (1130495) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798990)

Take another look, you'll find one of them.

Sigh... (1)

hazah (807503) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798694)

Whatever happened to punching someone in the face and just saying 'no, you can't do that to me'. Oh well, insanity ensues.

NTP (1)

pavon (30274) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798736)

And then you have NTP who is suing everybody.

The Era of Stupid Computing (5, Insightful)

Microlith (54737) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798746)

Can you imagine if what is going on now in the mobile space had been happening as personal computing took off during the 80s? We'd have gotten just short of nowhere, what with all the patent suits crippling things and walled garden lock down forcing people to find exploits so they can regain basic levels of control.

I can't help that this piss poor, anti-user behavior in the mobile market is going to ripple up into the general computing space in the next few years and generally make life hell for anyone who shows an interest in computers beyond Facebook, e-mail and the latest console game.

Re:The Era of Stupid Computing (2, Informative)

tool462 (677306) | more than 3 years ago | (#33800038)

I had to question your assumption that patent suits were less common in the 80s, so I did some googling. Turns out the 80s were pretty bad too:
http://elsa.berkeley.edu/~bhhall/papers/HallZiedonis07_PatentLitigation_AEA.pdf [berkeley.edu]
The pretty and relevant charts are on page 24 (Figures 3 and 4)

The excerpt from the paper that describes those charts (page 10-11):

Figure 3 shows that litigation has risen along with the increase in patenting, and also that
there has been a substantial increase in suits involving non-rival entities during the past ten years,
supporting the claims of some in the industry (FTC, 2003). Figure 4 shows how litigation
probability for our firms has changed over time. As suggested by interviews reported in Hall and
Ziedonis (2001), the overall probability of litigation on a per-patent basis rose steeply after the
creation of the CAFC and the strengthening of patent enforcement that followed. However, it then falls again to the pre-1982 level, possibly because of the success of the defensive portfolio
strategy in reducing litigation between rivals.

The number of patents in the mid 80s was quite high, only about 1/3 less than ~2000. As Fig 4 shows, lawsuits per patent peaked in the mid 80s. The most interesting change to me is the increase the number of patent lawsuits between non-rivals. It would also be interesting to see data from 2001 to 2010 to see if the trends continued.

The message to take from this though is that 80s were hardly a time of free IP love and openness.

If You Stare at the Diagram... (4, Funny)

D Ninja (825055) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798754)

If you stare at that diagram long enough, you can see a whole bunch of lawyers swimming in piles of cash ala Scrooge McDuck. (If you're having trouble, it helps if you cross your eyes a little bit and back away slowly.)

Re:If You Stare at the Diagram... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33798982)

If you're having trouble, it helps if you cross your eyes a little bit and back away slowly.

Always good advice if you happen to encounter a lawyer in the wild.

Re:If You Stare at the Diagram... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33799770)

I see a sailboat!

Money grubbing Fins. (1)

sunking2 (521698) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798778)

It appears the US has lost it's edge even in the number of people to sue.

Re:Money grubbing Fins. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33799396)

We are trying to make our new American CEO feel at home ;-)

Gold (1)

symes (835608) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798816)

Its a bit like the wild west when gold prospectors shot it out to decide who got dibs on what plot of land. Except in this case bullets are words and property is intellectual. I vote for a return to the good old days.

What a stupid representation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33798818)

A short study of the diagram shows the diagram could be much easier to read. Many, if not all, of the line crossings could be eliminated by rearranging the companies.

Re:What a stupid representation (1)

Statecraftsman (718862) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798884)

I agree. I struggle to understand how they are arranged. At first glance it appears to be in some sort of vertical groups but when you see Google and Oracle on a diagonal crossing some other thing for no reason, the deliberate obfuscation is apparent. Come on people....arrange by performance or to enable easy comparisons!

Re:What a stupid representation (1)

RapmasterT (787426) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798950)

I don't think that's accidental. a clean, uncluttered diagram would make the story uninteresting. Nobody wants to read a story titled "several companies suing each other in orderly fashion".

Better title: (1)

Anita Coney (648748) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798854)

"Artist rendering of actual patent thicket"

Re:Better title: (2, Funny)

wembley fraggle (78346) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798970)

Even better. "Who is suing whom". Because grammar matters.

Nokia most litigeous!!! (1)

EMB Numbers (934125) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798856)

Nokia is suing 5 companies and is being sued by 2.
Kodak is suing 5 companies and is being sued by none.
Microsoft is suing 2 companies and is being sued by none.
Apple is suing 2 companies and is being sued by 3.
Motorola is suing nobody and is being sued by three companies.
Sharp is suing nobody and is being sued by 3 companies.
LG and HTC are being sued 2 times apiece.

So, is Nokia the worst offender as it watches its profits tank in response to fierce competition?
Is Kodak, the king of failed business models overtaken my new technology, the next worst offender?

When companies start suing, it seems to be because they have stopped competing.
 

Re:Nokia most litigeous!!! (1)

Low Ranked Craig (1327799) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799896)

Nokia is suing 5 companies

Actually more like 8: Toshiba, Qualcom, Apple, Motorola, Samsung, Sharp, Hitachi and LG

How the mighty have fallen

Re:Nokia most litigeous!!! (1)

ArbitraryDescriptor (1257752) | more than 3 years ago | (#33800000)

According to that chart, Nokia is suing eight companies

God bless America (1)

Ice Tiger (10883) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798874)

the land of the fee.

crooks vs. crooks (1)

bl8n8r (649187) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798920)

Basically, whenever you get successful, someone is going to sue you for something. Litigation, in the USA anyway, has turned into a business strategy. It's a pretty extravagant burden on taxpayers these days since the economy is already screwed. Look how long the SCO debacle has dragged on: Mar, 6th 2003. I Wonder how much just that one case has cost taxpayers. And no, I don't think SCO will not pay those costs if they file (have filed?) for bankruptcy. These stupid lawsuits gotta stop.

Short Story (1)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798940)

Nokia and Kodak(?!?!) are basically suing everybody while Motorola and Sharp(?!?! again) are taking it in all holes.

Dammit (0, Redundant)

wembley fraggle (78346) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798944)

WHOM.

Profits or Progress. (1)

CitizenPlusPlus (1867870) | more than 3 years ago | (#33798966)

Looks like patents aren't as useful a tool for innovation as they are lauded to be.

classy image skillz (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33799020)

Love the "you spelled this wrong" underline under Qualcomm.

Cold War is Ending (1)

whisper_jeff (680366) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799066)

I remember, in a past discussion, someone described the patent situation similar to the cold war but noted that it's likely ending in an explosive way. Previously, companies held patent portfolios to hold other companies at bay in a defensive stance similar to the stockpiles of missiles. Now, however, the portfolios are being used offensively - the missiles are starting to fly. As more and more start to get unleashed, this is only going to get uglier, in my opinion. While I may not like seeing my favourite companies targeted by lawsuits, I'm ok with the cold war ending because, maybe, just maybe, these companies will get fed up with the hundreds of millions that will start flying about as well and start to lobby for patent laws that make more sense because, gawd knows, the current ones are pretty messed up...

Well, one can hope, at least...

Re:Cold War is Ending (1)

c0d3g33k (102699) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799216)

You have favorite companies? Dude, you are so twisted.

Alternate view generated with Graphviz (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33799076)

Here's an alternate view of the same content generated with Graphviz, which shows the suers and the sueees better :) http://imagebin.ca/img/dv52EX.png [imagebin.ca]

In spreadsheet form... (1)

Statecraftsman (718862) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799116)

Re:In spreadsheet form... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33799246)

Rendered by graphviz: http://imagebin.ca/img/dv52EX.png [imagebin.ca]

Simple answer for Google. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33799406)

Convince the Judge that the Android platform is a Computer platform that happens to support a Cellular modem and get the court to ignore all patents that describe a cellular phone. My understanding is that there are Android tablets out there that don't have the Cell part, and netbooks as well so it shouldn't be too hard of sell (although Judges are usually slow on that type of thing)

I just got an HTC Incredible last weekend, and it has more in common with my PC than it does my Dad's corded touchtone phone.

nokia vs qualcomm (1)

hyartep (1694754) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799500)

i do not think that image is correct. nokia settled with qualcomm long ago.

Re:nokia vs qualcomm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33799596)

I do not think your reading skills are correct: The mobile battlefield: lawsuits in progress or completed over mobile patents. Some suits have been settled. Source: The Guardian and New York Times

Re:nokia vs qualcomm (1)

IorDMUX (870522) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799642)

i do not think that image is correct. nokia settled with qualcomm long ago.

This is correct. The big-deal-settlement and agreement [mobiletechnews.com] occured in July of 2008, and now the companies are working together on getting Snapdragon-enabled Nokia smartphones [intomobile.com] out the door in 2010.

I would know... I'm a Qualcomm employee.

This is how it'll always be. (1)

immakiku (777365) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799522)

Whenever a new technology or standard is proposed, there will inevitably always be overlapping patents that someone else owns. This is why big companies like to hold patents like poker cards. Nobody knows exactly what/how many/how effective the cards the other players hold, which is why most of the time nobody plays the litigation game. It's like saying "I'll hold on to my King because I'm afraid that guy has an Ace" unless that other guy already played a Queen against you in another game and then... well it's revenge time!

It's kind of like the mutually assured destruction of the litigation world.

"suing each other kills innovation" (1)

Locutus (9039) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799572)

I saw that comment in TFA and thought, 'how great that is for Microsoft'.

LoB

Won't just won't win an award. (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799582)

That graphic is deliberately fucked up, with edges crossing where there's no need for them to do so.

What it shows when you decode it is that Nokia and Kodak are the most litigious, while the most frequent targets are Apple (no surpised), Sharp and Motorola.

9 of the bubbles are suing nobody, 5 are not being sued, and 3 are suing and being sued.

Nokia is involved in 10 cases, suing 8 companies and being countersued by 2 of them. I guess that's what you get for being a longtime pioneer and suddenly having your industry jumped by a bunch of linux-based hacks and an iPod with a phone chip in it.

Re:Won't just won't win an award. (1)

c0d3g33k (102699) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799678)

NitPicker, is that you?

Mobile, AL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33799732)

I would've thought that in Mobile, and all the other Gulf coast cities, everybody would be suing BP

Wow, look at Nokia go! (1)

troll -1 (956834) | more than 3 years ago | (#33799772)

I wonder if there's a relationship between a company's stock price and the number of lawsuits it files. Nokia's stock has dropped about 30% since April.
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