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Gaming Mouse Changes Shape For a Custom Fit

CmdrTaco posted about 4 years ago | from the that-looks-kinda-cool dept.

Input Devices 156

crookedvulture writes "Most of us spend a considerable amount of time with a mouse in our hand, but finding the right fit can be tricky. Mad Catz subsidiary Cyborg Gaming attempts to solve that problem with its adjustable Rat 7 mouse, which changes its size and shape to accommodate different hands. This review takes a closer look at the Rat's customization options, its myriad of programmable buttons, and an interesting scroll wheel for your thumb. Despite looking like a torture device, the Rat is said to be very comfortable for gaming and even better for general desktop use." Just look at the pictures. This is truly a wacky device. I want one.

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Made by TROJAN ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33814750)

I want it now !!


hipster douchebag alert (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33815438)

From TFA:

pedal my fixed-gear bike around town

I stopped reading right there.

Re:Made by TROJAN ? (1)

3chuck3 (512455) | about 4 years ago | (#33817108)

I just got in one I ordered from the internet. It is awesome, satisfied my tech fix urges

Setup (2, Interesting)

iONiUM (530420) | about 4 years ago | (#33814792)

Judging by the pictures, it looks like you have to manually set the "length" of the mouse. When I read the description, I was picturing an amorphous blob that transformed to your grip.

I want the blob. Maybe I'll just wrap silly putty around my standard crappy mouse.

Re:Setup (1)

veganboyjosh (896761) | about 4 years ago | (#33814956)

I don't remember the product, but there used to be some kind of ergonomic something that came custom. When you "bought" it at the store or via mailorder, you were actually given the kit that molds to your shape. I want to say it was some kind of orthopedic something. It came with some kind of resin that you mixed, and then put your feet onto, and let it harden. Then you sent this negative mold back to the company, and they would injection mold or use some other process to make their product that fit the contours of your body.

That's what I first thought of when I saw this headline. I wonder if that's doable with some tweaking to the process.

Re:Setup (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | about 4 years ago | (#33815134)

Um, I think I’ve heard of that... and I’m pretty sure that was a home-made dildo kit.

I’d say it was for the girlfriend, but none of us has a girlfriend...

Re:Setup (1)

veganboyjosh (896761) | about 4 years ago | (#33815250)

Yeah, i'd heard of that product, too, and was trying to avoid alluding to that one. I remember hearing about some kind of insole or glove or something that used the same concept.

Re:Setup (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33815352)

That company went bankrupt. Nobody wants penis-shaped gloves.

Re:Setup (1)

RKThoadan (89437) | about 4 years ago | (#33815588)

It's reasonably common in several pro-sports and especially in footwear. Professional ice-skaters and hockey players will certainly have injection mold based skates, and I'm guessing many athletes even get custom molded shoes.

Re:Setup (1)

ToasterofDOOM (878240) | about 4 years ago | (#33815514)

As a cyclist and a nerd, I ogle at shoes with heat moldable carbon fiber soles, etc, which would be a cool idea for this. I'd love to see a CF mouse - just not the pricetag. Also the logistics of popping a mouse in an oven might pose a slight problem...

Re:Setup (1)

vacarul (1624873) | about 4 years ago | (#33814980)

I put a lot of duct tape on mine.

But I still want Rat 7.

Re:Setup (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | about 4 years ago | (#33815104)

Yeah, I was thinking a mouse made of memory foam like those beds or pillows. It actually seems like it’d be really comfortable and less trouble to mess with than trying to adjust this.

Re:Setup (1)

djnforce9 (1481137) | about 4 years ago | (#33815298)

That's what I was thinking too actually. Nanotechnology applied to a mouse to reshape/mold based on the size and curves of your hand. The way it is now, if more than one person uses the computer, each would have to re-adjust it to suit their personal preference.

Re:Setup (1)

ToasterofDOOM (878240) | about 4 years ago | (#33815330)

Best feature of this mouse appears to be the cord. I love all the razer mice I've used but with friends we've lost at least 3 to frayed cords. There's probably another issue there but honestly that detail really pleases me. As for the mouse as a whole ... I'll have to try it to pass judgment, until then it looks absolutely ridiculous.

Re:Setup (1)

blair1q (305137) | about 4 years ago | (#33815358)

Have a few more donuts and that silly putty will be built-in.

Re:Setup (1)

vlm (69642) | about 4 years ago | (#33815434)

When I read the description, I was picturing an amorphous blob that transformed to your grip.

Smear mouse with sugru, place hand in plastic bag, grip mouse, peel off bag. Personally I use a trackball. Three of them, actually, along with three monitors and one kvm switched keyboard. Well, I guess thats more of a "K" switch than a kvm...

Sugru is, as near as I can tell, carefully marketed epoxy putty. You could probably use generic epoxy putty if you wanted. []

Shoe fitting macheen (1)

matty619 (630957) | about 4 years ago | (#33814804)

looks like one of those shoe sizing machines they used when we were kids....

Re:Shoe fitting macheen (1)

srussia (884021) | about 4 years ago | (#33815158)

looks like one of those shoe sizing machines they used when we were kids....

Exactly. How much would it really cost to measure you on something like this and tailor a bespoke mouse?

How to make the ugliest mouse in the world (2, Funny)

bbtom (581232) | about 4 years ago | (#33814806)

1. Get article from TFA.
2. Breed it with the OpenOffice Mouse [] .
3. ???
4. Profit, I guess. Or just stare at the combined ugliness.

Re:How to make the ugliest mouse in the world (1)

bbtom (581232) | about 4 years ago | (#33814894)

1. Write Slashdot comments while working and make mistake.
2. Notice afterwards.
3. Get annoyed.

"Get mouse from TFA" of course.

Re:How to make the ugliest mouse in the world (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | about 4 years ago | (#33814924)

OpenOffice Mouse: You watched it... You can't UNWATCH it!

Re:How to make the ugliest mouse in the world (1)

damien_kane (519267) | about 4 years ago | (#33816240)

Brix were shat

Re:How to make the ugliest mouse in the world (1)

TheKidWho (705796) | about 4 years ago | (#33815028)

I think it reallys really cool actually. Very mechanical looking.

Re:How to make the ugliest mouse in the world (1)

MozeeToby (1163751) | about 4 years ago | (#33815036)

Odd, I like the industrial look. Like a steampunk mouse built out of modern materials, and the steampunk elements are actually functionally important to the device. It's not exactly the sleek modern look we've become accustomed to, but it is futuristic in it's own way.

Not good for lefties? (5, Insightful)

zerobeat (628744) | about 4 years ago | (#33814840)

This mouse is so configurable, yet can't be used naturally by left handers. This is fail for 10% of the population.

Re:Not good for lefties? (4, Insightful)

IndustrialComplex (975015) | about 4 years ago | (#33815000)

This mouse is so configurable, yet can't be used naturally by left handers. This is fail for 10% of the population.

This mouse IS very configurable, but it isn't THAT configurable. It sucks being a minority. Trust me, I know. I'm colorblind. At least you can still use your right hand.

I get to wonder if an option is greyed out, or green and nothing can fix that short of altering my genetic code. My only advantage is that you can usually compensate for that via software. Hardware is going to be designed for 90-95% of the population, and it shouldn't be a surprise if in the announcement of a new product, it doesn't cover that last 5-10%.

I've worked in an office where we used the mice with our left hands, it took a few days to get used to, but after a while you didn't notice it at all. So the people who CAN'T adapt are probably only 2% of the population.

Re:Not good for lefties? (1)

MozeeToby (1163751) | about 4 years ago | (#33815394)

nothing can fix that short of altering my genetic code.

To be fair, you don't need to change all of your genetic code, just the code in the cells that make up retina. Nothing a little gene therapy [] can't take care of in a decade or so.

Re:Not good for lefties? (1)

Reilaos (1544173) | about 4 years ago | (#33815574)

I'll bite: Why did the office members use their mice with their left hands?

Re:Not good for lefties? (2, Interesting)

IndustrialComplex (975015) | about 4 years ago | (#33815712)

I'll bite: Why did the office members use their mice with their left hands?

3-4 person branch office. The VP of that branch was left handed, and computers were shared. The secretary found it was easier to just learn how to use her left hand than to move the mouse to the right side, swap the buttons in software, and then set it back to normal when she was done with the computer.

ie: The right handed people adapted to the left handed mice. It's why I pointed out that it isn't THAT big of a deal, only a minor annoyance which went away after they got used to it.

Interestingly enough, the secretary (who also served as the accountant, preferred using the mouse in her left hand since she could use the numpad and arrow keys with her right when working in excel or other similar software.

Re:Not good for lefties? (1)

silverglade00 (1751552) | about 4 years ago | (#33815722)

Right hand was busy. Do I really need to say why around here?

Re:Not good for lefties? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33816342)

It was an adult film office. Left hands didn't have the endurance.

Re:Not good for lefties? (1)

Man Eating Duck (534479) | about 4 years ago | (#33816716)

I'll bite: Why did the office members use their mice with their left hands?

They might have a peripheral such as a production scanner on the right hand side. I was in that situation, and I quickly learned flipping the book with my right hand and cropping the scanned image with my left.

I'm very close to ambidextrous and don't really care which side the mouse is on or whether the buttons are switched, I just adapt as needed. It's handy when you're the go-to-guy for all kinds of issues with workstations. A colleague of mine absolutely can't do it, I have no idea if this can be learned more or less easily by different people, or what the mechanisms behind it could be.

Re:Not good for lefties? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33815694)

No, the people who can't adapt are more like 95% of the population, luckily most of them don't have to.

Re:Not good for lefties? (1)

MobyDisk (75490) | about 4 years ago | (#33816772)

Would you mind answering a question for me? Why don't color blind people keep a color filter in their pocket for just such cases? Based on your example I assume you are red-green color blind. So in that case, couldn't you hold a red filter up to your eye? If the control turns black, it was green. If it stays the same, it was red or gray.

I'm not advocating that people should not consider color blindness in their system designs or anything insensitive. I'm just curious if this hack would help.

Re:Not good for lefties? (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | about 4 years ago | (#33817318)

I can use a mouse fine right handed, when clunking around windows and hitting boxes in excel ... pinpointing a noob a virtual mile away behind a log not so much

Re:Not good for lefties? (4, Funny)

Lord Ender (156273) | about 4 years ago | (#33815002)

There target market is people with souls.

Re:Not good for lefties? (1)

Lord Ender (156273) | about 4 years ago | (#33815024)

(please reply with all spelling corrections below this post)

Re:Not good for lefties? (4, Funny)

rakuen (1230808) | about 4 years ago | (#33815448)

There target market is people with soles.

There, fixed that for you.

Re:Not good for lefties? (1)

blair1q (305137) | about 4 years ago | (#33815466)


Re:Not good for lefties? (1)

Wannabe Code Monkey (638617) | about 4 years ago | (#33816432)

There target market is people with souls.

If you had read the article, you'd know that the author rides a fixed-gear bike. So this is obviously usable by those lacking souls.

Re:Not good for lefties? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33815030)

I question your percentage. Even if around 10% of people are left-handed with respect to writing, a substantially smaller percentage use mice left-handed.

Re:Not good for lefties? (1)

Saishuuheiki (1657565) | about 4 years ago | (#33815040)

It's sensible really. It's a niche product so you're only going to sell so many of them. Manufacturing and tooling costs will dictate that only one version be made. And given how it's supposed to fit the form of your hand, you can't really make it mirrored to be used with either hand.

And I know personally, even though I'm left handed I use the mouse with my right hand. If you're gaming you're probably using both hands, and if you're doing something simple like browsing the web, either hand should do.

Re:Not good for lefties? (1)

clarkkent09 (1104833) | about 4 years ago | (#33815206)

This is fail for 10% of the population.

Marketing a product to 90% of population might work out better for them than going through a lot of extra expense to get an extra 10%. What's wrong with that?

Re:Not good for lefties? (1)

wjousts (1529427) | about 4 years ago | (#33815500)

Damn no good whinny lefties.

Re:Not good for lefties? (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | about 4 years ago | (#33815540)

yup, nice design, but like most other premium mouses, they will never get my money, I dont need extra buttons and wheels under my pinky


Re:Not good for lefties? (1)

noidentity (188756) | about 4 years ago | (#33816010)

Somehow I don't think they are under any illusion that they're going to get 100% of the population using this mouse.

Re:Not good for lefties? (1)

parasite (14751) | about 4 years ago | (#33816948)

I seriously suspect you left handers are the largest and most successful trolls the world has ever seen.

I despised my co-workers and so wanted to make life miserable for them whenever they needed to demonstrate anything to me on my computer. I thus arranged my monitor and keyboard on my desk at a very sharp angle such that a right-hander trying to use my mouse would have to basically break his arm to reach and use it. I myself am so-called "right handed". The first several weeks I felt a bit of psychological distress and anguish at the fact that my left hand was just not as responsive and precise as my right. After that short adjustment period, though, I can say it long longer makes a damn bit of difference what hand I use.


That does look cool (2, Insightful)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | about 4 years ago | (#33814848)

I don't play video games now, but that mouse looks like a great everyday mouse. The ability to change various distances and sizes would be very helpful in alleviating hand strain. It's a shame it has a cord, but I imagine they are giving us something else to look forward to.

The only question is build quality and reliability, and of course price.

I would hope for other colors and better (less robot-y) industrial design, but for a first step, this thing looks good.

Re:That does look cool (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33814964)

There is a cordless version. It's the RAT 9.

Re:That does look cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33815116)

The only question is ... course price.

From TFA: $100, though often retailing for $80

Re:That does look cool (1)

Kugala (1083127) | about 4 years ago | (#33815326)

RAT7 has a cord, RAT9 is wireless.

The only thing I miss on it is the Logitec N7's freewheeling mode on the scroll wheel to get through large docs (Or more typically deal with incredibly insensitive camera zooming in games).

That, and that silver wheel just above the thumb? That's a control, it rotates left/right. I have NO idea what to do with it.

Re:That does look cool (1)

Lord Ender (156273) | about 4 years ago | (#33815360)

The second page of the article states that the device shown costs $80, the wireless version is $130, and there are less-configurable models at lower price-points.

If you spend a lot of time using your mouse (gamers and geeks), it makes sense to spend more money for getting the best-possible comfort and a higher degree of accuracy. Obviously it won't be "worth" $80 to casual computer users or dedicated command-liners, but those aren't the target market.

Re:That does look cool (1)

cgenman (325138) | about 4 years ago | (#33815898)

High DPI mice start at $50, and are absolutely essential for gaming. This is just a $30 premium for complete physical configurability + extra wheel + sniper mode. That's not bad by gaming standards.

Re:That does look cool (1)

AuMatar (183847) | about 4 years ago | (#33817220)

Depends on your definition of gaming. This won't help me in Civ 5, WoW, or Starcraft at all compared to much cheaper models. Sniping in an FPS maybe.

Re:That does look cool (2, Informative)

theqmann (716953) | about 4 years ago | (#33816110)

I've had one of these RAT7 mice for a month or two now, and so far the build quality is very nice. The different pieces screw in with a little hex driver that actually lives in the bottom of the mouse, so you never have to go find it. There's a nice sensitivity rocker button to turn up or down the mouse sensitivity, the main scroll wheel is metal with a nice textured rubber grip band around it. Haven't used the thumb wheel much, and the big red button seems to be able to only be programmed as a modifier button (like to change the function of the other buttons), not as a regular key in of itself. Overall, I'm greatly satisfied with my purchase.

Just one thing comes to mind... (-1, Redundant)

santax (1541065) | about 4 years ago | (#33814912)

I want one...

Fully customizable, except for left handed people (0, Redundant)

torrija (993870) | about 4 years ago | (#33814920)

You can change almost anything in this mouse, except you cannot turn it into a left-handed mouse. This mouse is for right-handed people only.

I'm left handed and I use a left-handed mouse at home. My hand muscles are much more relaxed with my mouse.

I have also tried symmetrical mouses, but I still feel a mouse shaped to the hand you are going to use it is much better.

If you want comfort (3, Interesting)

Pojut (1027544) | about 4 years ago | (#33814934)

Just go with the classic Kensington Expert Mouse [] . Hard to beat.

Re:If you want comfort (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33815148)

I don't get it, why are they showing us the picture of the mouse upside down? And why are buttons underneath the mouse around the ball? I don't see how using that thing would be comfortable at all.

Re:If you want comfort (2, Interesting)

SIR_Taco (467460) | about 4 years ago | (#33815584)

You know, I purchased one of these [] made by Kensington a few years ago for $0.75 at a retail store (not a garage sale), new in the box. Only because I thought it was the most ridiculous mouse I have ever seen.

I had forgot all about it until I read your post..... I'm going to have to go look for it and hook it up for a good laugh

I don't have super big hands... (1)

havokca (1864454) | about 4 years ago | (#33814984)

... but I find all mice way too small; instead of holding them in my hand, I have to hold them in kind of a claw-like manner. So one of these will show up on my Christmas list, fo sho.

Re:I don't have super big hands... (1)

jgtg32a (1173373) | about 4 years ago | (#33815404)

Claw grip is better than palming it anyway

Re:I don't have super big hands... (1)

Red Flayer (890720) | about 4 years ago | (#33815488)

Strange. When I use a mouse, it doesn't touch my palm at all. The pad of my palm glides on the desk surface, as does the mouse, which is cradled entirely in my fingers and the pads of my fingers, no 'claw' action at all.

For reference, my hand is about normal length for a 6' male, but very broad, and I have what may be called "sausage fingers".

Hooray another Mad Catz product (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33815012)

Cheap useless and gimmicky shit, for l33t gamerz, skript kiddies, and slashdotters.

Re:Hooray another Mad Catz product (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | about 4 years ago | (#33815246)

Champion Umehara Daigo uses a MadCatz joystick for street fighter.

They do produce excellent peripherals these days(I argue the Hori Real Arcade Pro series is slightly superior, but WTF ever.)

RAT5 (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33815126)

I actually own a RAT5 (a downgraded version of the RAT7) and I can't say I'm disappointed. It feels great, looks great, and is totally customizable. I would recommend it to most people, if it wasn't for the price.

Re:RAT5 (4, Funny)

clone53421 (1310749) | about 4 years ago | (#33815248)

Just don’t let the CAT5 near it, and you’ll be fine...

Re:RAT5 (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33817340)

Just don't let the CAT5 near it, and you'll be fine...

What are you - some sort of idiot? This is a MOUSE, not fucking networking gear.

Oh, look, it's a... (2, Insightful)

macraig (621737) | about 4 years ago | (#33815180)

... dust magnet!

Today ACTA has been released... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33815216)

...and this is the news we get on Slashdot?? I am disappoint.

Looks like a transformer (1)

Drakkenmensch (1255800) | about 4 years ago | (#33815272)

Mad Katz... ROLL OUT!

You know... (1)

rakuen (1230808) | about 4 years ago | (#33815274)

I'd be a little concerned about something getting caught in that mouse trap.

RAT model 9 (2, Informative)

macraig (621737) | about 4 years ago | (#33815308)

The model 9 was reviewed by ARSTechnica [] way back in January. It looks virtually the same to me.

Re:RAT model 9 (3, Informative)

Peeteriz (821290) | about 4 years ago | (#33815458)

rat7 is wired, rat9 wireless.

Re:RAT model 9 (1)

flowwolf (1824892) | about 4 years ago | (#33817226)

Back in January I was shopping for a new gaming mouse. the Rat9 was a contender because of the adjustments, but the wireless made me reconsider. I could not find the wired model. I can't stand when I'm in the heat of a game and my cell phone kills my mouse connectivity for 30 seconds while it transmits.

Nothing like the real mouse... (2, Funny)

Ecuador (740021) | about 4 years ago | (#33815334)

All these years there has been so much development in mice, but still we are nowhere near the feel of a real mouse. I mean the warm furry feeling of a live mouse, the little squeaks when you squeeze it just can't be substituted with any shape shifting, high-dpi laser mouse.

Re:Nothing like the real mouse... (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | about 4 years ago | (#33815470)

If we ever get shape-shifting computer mouses that can imitate a real live mouse, I'll call mine Odo.

Re:Nothing like the real mouse... (1)

aquila.solo (1231830) | about 4 years ago | (#33816174)

Yeah... I think I'd name mine OHellNo.

Re:Nothing like the real mouse... (1)

SwordsmanLuke (1083699) | about 4 years ago | (#33815916)

I take it you haven't seen this [] then. :)

But how comfortable is it? (1)

js3 (319268) | about 4 years ago | (#33815350)

Biggest thing when getting a mouse is the comfort level. Fitting is part of the comfort but not if it comes at the cost of a jagged surface or things poking you in awkward places.

Also how is the durability? The more moving parts anything has the more likely it wont last very long.

Too much metal there (1)

gmuslera (3436) | about 4 years ago | (#33815354)

is that a stainless steel RAT?

Hide it, or buy one for everyone in your house? (1)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | about 4 years ago | (#33815356)

My main computer is used by the entire family. It would get highly annoying to have to adjust it every time I wanted to use it, assuming others adjusted it as well. I'm a Mac user, but I've found the best mouse for my money has always been the Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer. [] It has always had a better contour (at least for right-handers) than any mouse from Apple, Logitech or any other I've tried, all for a much better price. The regular Intellimouse has buttons on both sides making it ambidextrous, but I find having both buttons on the thumb side is much more convenient & accessible.

NOT a good gaming mouse (1)

CobaltBlueDW (899284) | about 4 years ago | (#33815412)

With all the big metal parts and solid chunks of plastic, that must be the heaviest mouse I've ever seen. The heft probably feels nice in the hand, but it is definitely not ideal for gaming, where mouse inertia is your enemy.

Re:NOT a good gaming mouse (1)

CyberDragon777 (1573387) | about 4 years ago | (#33815918)


You are not a real g4m3r unless your mouse has at least a dozen removable weights to tune its feel!

Re:NOT a good gaming mouse (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | about 4 years ago | (#33817378)

The R.A.T. 7 and 9 at least have removable weights.

My 7 is lighter than either of the wireless Logitechs I have.

I have one... (4, Interesting)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | about 4 years ago | (#33815432)

I have arthritis in my right hand (thanks to chemo) and in the last six months or so I found that all my Logitech mouse hurt my hand. My fiancée said "we need to get a mouse that doesn't hurt your hand so we can game."

I picked out the R.A.T. 7, bought it off Amazon and so far it's been a really good mouse. I switched out the palm and pinkie rests, adjusted the size and use it about 6-12 hours a day.

I really like the long bradded USB cable, they got the details down.

Re:I have one... (1)

js3 (319268) | about 4 years ago | (#33815452)

I can tell you're lying because Wyatt Earp is dead.

Re:I have one... (2, Funny)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | about 4 years ago | (#33816106)

What tipped me off was the 1029 UID combined with "fiancee" who wants to game.

Re:I have one... (2, Interesting)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | about 4 years ago | (#33816514)

The fiancé is mostly an RPG/MMO gamer that does some console gaming, and a science teacher.

Re:I can tell you're lying... (1)

Cyko_01 (1092499) | about 4 years ago | (#33817184)

I can tell he's lying because he said he had a fiancée

I've tried one of these... (2, Interesting)

thatbloke83 (1529851) | about 4 years ago | (#33815578)

... at the i-series LAN events in the UK.

I have to say I didn't like it. Even the lowest setting that the rear part of the mouse could be set to was too high, and a few other people who tried it felt the same way. I'll stick with my ROCCAT Kone :)

Claw grip? (1)

MaWeiTao (908546) | about 4 years ago | (#33815728)

From an industrial design standpoint, I love the mouse. It's not nearly as expensive as I expected either and it seems to have decent reviews on Amazon. I do have concerns about long-term reliability, about the various parts loosening up over time, and cleaning out dust.

Another issue I see is that despite all the adjustment the mouse seems designed around the palm grip. It would be neat if it's range of adjustment allowed it to transition from a craw grip to palm. I'm also curious to know how much it weighs, although I assume can't be much worse than a mouse loaded with 2 AA batteries.

It's definitely a neat mouse otherwise but my inclination, if you're shopping for a new mouse, to do a bit of research and find something that fits how you use mice. I spent a few weeks before I settled on mine, a Logitech Anywhere MX. I was tired of dealing with Apple's Mighty Mouse and it's failing trackballs. The Magic Mouse was out of the question, sharp edges and too low a profile; as far as I was concerned it was a step backwards regardless of the fancy features. Initially I had considered some of the bulkier Logitech mice. Eventually I found some useful information regarding the claw grip vs palm grip, realized (more like reminded of the fact) that I use the claw grip and decided to avoid desktop mice. For some reason the vast majority of those are designed for the palm grip. Plenty of fondling of mice in stores confirmed this and helped narrow down my selection.

I suppose some will consider that overkill. But I use the mouse all day long. I'm quite happy with this one, about the only complaint I have is that it's a bit heavy. I guess a good reason to get a Rat 7 would be to have an interesting conversation piece.

Re:Claw grip? (1)

CodeNameSly (1817530) | about 4 years ago | (#33816152)

The Logitech G9 is an excellent claw grip mouse.

Well shit (1)

Flipao (903929) | about 4 years ago | (#33816254)

You just sold me a mouse. And there I was thinking I was inmune to online advertising... ohhh look free emoticons!

Not as configurable as you think (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33816518)

I bought one of these, but that red button under the your thumb is not actually configurable; it is hard-coded to change the sensitivity while you hold it down. I took back the product the next day, and they tried to tell me "all sales are final, sucks to be you", so I ended up just reversing the charge on my amex. Would not do business with this company again.

Confirmed as amazing mouse (1)

madwheel (1617723) | about 4 years ago | (#33816652)

This mouse has been out for a while now. Maximum PC gave it a "kick-ass" review in their September issue. It seems to be the best mouse for the money if comfort and fit is a priority. If I were a computer gamer, this would be the mouse hands down.

meh (1)

SpinningCone (1278698) | about 4 years ago | (#33816682)

looks interesting but i've never found overall ergonomics to be a problem. i have a logitech mx revolution and it feels great actually for me its dam near the perfect mouse if only i could refine it slightly.

but even the average bean shaped mouse is usually ok. what i want is more buttons. its hard to find a good mouse with more than the two thumb buttons with maybe left and right tilt. i wish Logitech had refined the revolution instead of abandoning it, a few tweaks and i would have bought 10 of em and be done with mice forever :-p

bull oney (1)

eyenot (102141) | about 4 years ago | (#33816782)

bullshit. this mouse doesn't change "itself", as soon as i read the summary i knew what the model was, and this one is just slightly more accessible-looking than what i had in mind, which was a nasty machine-shop-prototype looking mouse that claimed ultimate 'adjustability' and so on, probably just the earlier version from the same company. this mouse looks nasty and freaked-out, too. and it doesn't adjust "itself". you have to adjust and prod at all this shit to get it into the dimensions you require. slashdot shouldn't be an advertising clearinghouse.

I have one, I love it. (2, Informative)

Sarusa (104047) | about 4 years ago | (#33817388)

Bought one of these when they first came out. It's great - it looks like it would eat your hand, but it's so smooth and comfy, especially the thumb and little finger rests - talk about debauched hedonism.

Three caveats:
    - Be prepared to spend a couple days tweaking it till it fits perfectly. You can dial it in coarsely pretty fast of course. If you are a compulsive adjuster this mouse may not be for you.
    - If you like to rest the base of your hand (the meaty bit) on the mouse, no go - it supports the front and middle. This is like most mice, but if you're used to one of those big tall Logitech brick mice it may take some getting used to.
    - I still haven't found any use for that horizontal spinner control.

Pondering getting one for work, even though the DPI doesn't matter so much there.

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