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Pioneer Preps Laser Heads-Up Display For Cars

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the somebody-hack-it-to-play-space-invaders dept.

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itwbennett writes "On display at Japan's Ceatec show this week is a heads-up display from Pioneer that links with a smartphone's navigation system. The prototype uses a laser to display bright, high-contrast, full-color images on a screen that would be mounted above the dashboard so drivers don't have to take their eyes fully off the road in order to receive driving instructions from their robot overlords. The demonstration model was hooked up to an Android-based phone and displayed a navigation map on the left-hand side and an animated Android robot on the right-hand side that passed on information to drivers. 'We are currently aiming for an after-market product, but we are talking with car manufacturers,' said Masaya Hashida, tech manager at Pioneer's smart vision business development department." An anonymous reader points out another gadget shown at Ceatec: a pair of augmented reality glasses that projects information to a user's peripheral vision and weighs only 20 grams.

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soooo.... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33837878)

i can finally watch porn while driving....safely?

Well.... (3, Funny)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 3 years ago | (#33837940)

Yes, but only this film:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115964/ [imdb.com]

Re:Well.... (2, Insightful)

oldspewey (1303305) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838266)

I remember seeing that film in the theatres back in '96. Well, I didn't see the whole film, only the parts leading up to me walking out thinking "WTF? I paid actual money for this?"

Re:Well.... (2, Insightful)

Omestes (471991) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838582)

I remember pondering what lesson I was supposed to learn. I'm pretty sure it was "everyone is an asshole, except that one Mexican guy". I'm sure that is applicable to my day-to-day life, though the message was a bit hurt by me pondering WHY that one Mexican guy wasn't an ass, was it an oversight by the film makers, or what it intentional? They went out of their way to paint everyone as sympathetic racists, except that ONE guy?!

Much like all the of the recent politically correct movie genre, I'm confused. People told me that that move, "Hard Candy" was awesome, poignant, insightful, ad nauseum. I watched it, and pondered the fact that I just watched a movie that made me feel sympathetic for a pedophile. I doubt this was intentional, but still it made it hard to enjoy the movie.

I hate idiotic movies that are supposed to teach me a moral lesson. Most of the time they fail completely. But then again I suppose I'm not the intended audience, the intended audience are people who already agree with the message and want to feel smug.

Re:Well.... (1)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839484)

Somehow I don't think we're talking about the same movie here...

Re:Well.... (1)

ReverendJ1 (1703482) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839734)

Haha. I remember being very confused when the new, unrelated Crash http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375679/ [imdb.com] came out. I was wondering how everyone thought that a movie about people sexing it up in automobile accidents could be life-changing, etc. Then I realized they were talking about a new movie with the same name...

Re:Well.... (1)

Omestes (471991) | more than 3 years ago | (#33841348)

You are absolutely correct.

Re:Well.... (1)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838866)

Saw it on Sci-Fi Channel.

They made a big deal about it, and warned it might offend some people. Well it didn't offend me - I just thought it was weird. People get off because of car crashes? Ooooo-kay.

Re:Well.... (1)

berwiki (989827) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838526)

James Spader is in EVERYTHING

Re:Well.... (1)

Creepy (93888) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838912)

James Spader is in EVERYTHING bad

there, I corrected it for you. It is Kevin Bacon that is in everything.

Re:soooo.... (1)

sdnoob (917382) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838822)

Coming soon..... GTA5: IRL

Re:soooo.... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839348)

i can finally watch porn while driving....safely?

You need to keep both hands on the wheel, so, no.

Re:soooo.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33839580)

I only watch it for the articles.

Re:soooo.... (2, Insightful)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839962)

You nailed it. The idea sounds incredibly retarded, dangerous as all getout.

The demonstration model was hooked up to an Android-based phone and displayed a navigation map on the left-hand side and an animated Android robot on the right-hand side that passed on information to drivers.

Jesus, I have trouble concentrating on reading the paper with moving flashing doodads on the page distracting me. People can't even talk on the phone without driving worse than a drunk!

This is the dumbest idea I've heard of in a long time. Now, if they had it attached to a radar to warn of coming up too close to objects, and and an IR sensor to warn of animals and pedestrians, it would be a good idea. But jesus h. christ, this idea is just retardedly dangerous. WTF's wrong with a voice saying "turn left at the next intersection" like GPSes do now? What purpose does an animated robot serve?

Re:soooo.... (2, Funny)

427_ci_505 (1009677) | more than 3 years ago | (#33840764)

It looks like you're trying to turn left.

Cancel or allow?

It sounds really useful (2, Insightful)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 3 years ago | (#33837884)

Of course, navigation is one obvious application of this, but coupled with a front-mounted IR sensor, it could also provide obstacle detection and highlighting during night time driving.

I wonder what they have in the pipeline!

Re:It sounds really useful (3, Insightful)

Dayze!Confused (717774) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838062)

an animated Android robot on the right-hand side that passed on information to drivers

Am I the only one who thought of Mr. Clippy when I read this?

P.S.
If the quote is messed up it's because for some reason /. has disabled my ability to cut and paste.

Re:It sounds really useful (2, Insightful)

gagol (583737) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839378)

The cute animations can and will distract attention. This alone may pose a threat to driving. I myself tested driving with a GPS unit and found it distracting and just another excuse to not develop your sense of orientation. I prefer to rely on my own skills, if I get lost, I have maps in my car and pull over to consult them instead of trying to do too much at the same time while driving.

Re:It sounds really useful (2, Insightful)

BasilBrush (643681) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839696)

The cute animation is indeed the worst idea since clippy. But I thoroughly disagree with your comments on GPS generally.

It's often not possible (illegal) to pull over. Meanwhile your mind can become distracted from the lower level functions of driving by the problem of trying to work out where you should be going. And stress levels can rise if you become lost or don't know if you will be late to your destination. It's far better to delegate the navigation task to a machine that can do a far better job of it when you are in an unknown area.

So long as the Sat Nav has a voice, so you don't have to keep monitoring the screen, it's a real help.

I mean, if you had a passenger, you'd let them do the map reading, right? Well a Sat Nav does a far better job than they would.

Oh, and on average you'll get there quicker and use less fuel with a Sat Nav too.

Re:It sounds really useful (2, Insightful)

sznupi (719324) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839924)

Though people overdo - I've seen far too many times to count a car from my (small / impossible to get lost in) place, driving directly towards it on a ubermain route & short distance away, in the night, with GPS unit blasting at their eyes with its screen at full brightness.

And that's when it's easy to notice (despite not that many people having satnav in my part of the woods) / how many other times GPS units are used in a detrimental or outright dangerous way?

Re:It sounds really useful (1)

conspirator57 (1123519) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838996)

or make a steering wheel with a chording keyboard in the grips so one can text/email more safely than people do now. (yes i know it'd be better if people didn't do those things, but laws aren't that effective at curbing such widespread, minor behavior.)

Re:It sounds really useful (1)

aenea (34844) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839676)

There are BMW's that do that already.

F your targeting computer (2, Insightful)

RevWaldo (1186281) | more than 3 years ago | (#33837946)

I put my trust in the force when I drive, and the plastic Jesus on my dashboard.

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Re:F your targeting computer (1)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838068)

"Almost there....almost there.....AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!" *EXPLOSION* & dramatic swell of music

Re:F your targeting computer (1)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839578)

This post quotes a porno movie?

My navigator is neither a GPS or a HUD. It's a AAA Atlas that I acquired for free, and I can hold it up in front of me if I need to.

Re:F your targeting computer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33838828)

"I'll never need my Red Book now,
Long as I got my Chairman Mao
Riding on the dashboard of my car..."

Cars with frikin' lasers (2, Funny)

EkriirkE (1075937) | more than 3 years ago | (#33837960)

Do not look forward with remaining eye.

Re:Cars with frikin' lasers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33838878)

How'd they teach the sharks to drive?

They got it all wrong, AGAIN! (1)

Lead Butthead (321013) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839564)

Lasers should be installed on the OUTSIDE of the car, dammit!

That's all we need ... (5, Insightful)

schwit1 (797399) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838010)

More distractions while driving. Is it too much to ask that people drive when behind the wheel?

If you NEED to use a phone while on the road please think of the people around you - carpool, use public transportation or take a taxi.

Re:That's all we need ... (5, Funny)

seinman (463076) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838044)

I hate people who try to tell me what I can and can't do while driving. I'm typing this post while driving up I-95 as we speak, and let me tell you, it's perfectly sa

Re:That's all we need ... (1)

Mr. Bad Example (31092) | more than 3 years ago | (#33840264)

> I'm typing this post while driving up I-95 as we speak, and let me tell you, it's perfectly sa

Uh oh. Candlejack has taken up hitchhi

Re:That's all we need ... (0, Flamebait)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 3 years ago | (#33841452)

I'm typing this post while driving up I-95

I don't think sitting in a parking lot is technically driving.

Re:That's all we need ... (2, Funny)

bhcompy (1877290) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838048)

Screw it man. When I'm dogfighting through traffic on the 405 I need access to radar on my HUD to watch out for bogeys trying to get in my blind spot. I AM driving with this kind of setup

Re:That's all we need ... (1)

Mashiki (184564) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838060)

I will say that HUD's are nice, very nice. Expensive as hell, but very nice. You're easily looking at paying 4x the amount for a windshield replacement if that ever cracks too. But yeah, too much crap? Too much of a pain, then again not enough of a distraction you're more likely to fall asleep(see the area between London and Windsor).

Re:That's all we need ... (1)

The Yuckinator (898499) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839068)

Am I way off?

...on a screen that would be mounted above the dashboard...

This seems to me that it wouldn't be part of your windshield at all.

Re:That's all we need ... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33838208)

The Airforce puts information in a HUD so their pilots will be distracted and perform poorly. Yup, that's it.

Re:That's all we need ... (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838256)

the air-force doesn't have twitter on theirs

Re:That's all we need ... (1)

kent_eh (543303) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839174)

The airforce spends a lot of time and effort training their pilots.
The majority of drivers learned from someone in the family, who was never properly trained themselves.
If there was proper driver training and testing these shows [wikipedia.org] wouldn't be able to exist :

* Australia's Worst Driver * Österreichs schlechtester Autofahrer * Y'a pas pire conducteur * Canada's Worst Driver * Canada's Worst Drivers vs. The World - similar to World's Worst Driver * Danmarks Værste Bilist (Denmark's Worst Driver) * New Zealand's Worst Driver * Najgorszy polski kierowca (Poland's Worst Driver) * O pior condutor de sempre (Worst Driver ever) * Sveriges värsta bilförare (Sweden's Worst Driver) * Y'a pas pire conducteur en Suisse romande * Britain's Worst Celebrity Driver * World's Worst Driver * Britain's Worst Driver 2003 * Britain's Worst Driver 2010 The Ben Shaw Chronicles * America's Worst Driver

Re:That's all we need ... (1)

ArtFart (578813) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838224)

Let's see how long it takes before someone hacks this thing to display 3D porn right in the middle of the driver's field of vision.

Re:That's all we need ... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33838468)

Distractions are one thing, but I would love to have a HUD in my car that displayed the information that normally requires taking your eyes off the road (such as speed and fuel levels) and which would then open the door for adding safety features (such as displaying the relative locations of vehicles nearby and thus eliminating the need to turn to check your blind spots as well as augmenting your view of the road ahead and accentuating potential obstacles such as large furry mammals that tend to congregate in wooded areas near roads).

Re:That's all we need ... (1)

Taibhsear (1286214) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839336)

...and which would then open the door for adding safety features

I'm pretty sure that if your HUD opened your door while you were driving it would be the opposite of a safety feature...

Re:That's all we need ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33838500)

Having recently driven a long distance mostly at night and partly in driving rain, I can readily attest that the gps display inside my car showing me how the road was about to curve was a huge advantage and made me feel much much safer. I don't know if it actually made me safer, but I can say that it sure didn't hurt.

Re:That's all we need ... (1)

bennomatic (691188) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838746)

They could do it in a way that it's less distracting. But the display they have contains all sorts of data that the driver doesn't need. It's a total mess and an invitation to disaster.

I think a HUD that shows just an arrow of which way you need to turn, along with a distance indicator could be fine. Maybe both could start out as fairly low-contrast and get to be higher contrast (or brighter/ more saturated colors) as you're getting closer, but there's no reason to show the top-down view of your car on a map so that you have to read the frickin' map while you're trying not to kill your family and other innocent bystanders as you hurtle down the road in your two-ton death-mobile.

Re:That's all we need ... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839502)

but there's no reason to show the top-down view of your car on a map so that you have to read the frickin' map while you're trying not to kill your family and other innocent bystanders as you hurtle down the road in your two-ton death-mobile

Agreed, the lookdown view for GPS systems was a huge enhancement. I don't want want to be looking at a map while I'm driving. I want to see that my second left is where I need to go, or that the road curves ahead.

Trying to correlate a standard map view with my driving is not helpful. Being able to see at a glance the route from the perspective I see in the car, however, is a big help. Trying to figure out which way is North isn't something I need to be doing.

Re:That's all we need ... (1)

dlt074 (548126) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838940)

i think a good navigation system helps safety.

though you're not alone in this thinking and our benevolent, good intentioned, rulers/overlords are right behind you. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-08/lahood-weighs-urging-u-s-ban-on-all-driver-phone-use-in-cars.html [bloomberg.com]

Re:That's all we need ... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839020)

More distractions while driving. Is it too much to ask that people drive when behind the wheel?

It's a matter of degrees, and how you do it.

My car has bluetooth in the stereo, so if I take a call in my car while I'm driving, the car is the cell phone and I can still drive with both hands. I've got a GPS nav attached to my window -- it's in the middle of my window, below the rear view, and not above the horizon of the hood. So, it's in my field of view when I need it, and something I can ignore when I don't.

I agree with you about distracted driving, but a HUD has the benefit of being superimposed in front of you, as opposed to being something you need to look away to see.

As someone with a 25 year driving record with no accidents, I actually like some of these things that allow me to keep my hands on the wheel and my eyes on the road. I don't make a practice of being on the phone while I'm driving, but with a single button I can answer an incoming call if I have to. For some kinds of trip, the GPS is something I wouldn't try to do without.

I still can't believe the number of people I see texting on blackberries while I'm driving. If both of your thumbs are on your blackberry, you are not operating that motor vehicle.

Re:That's all we need ... (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839106)

I would rather that Pioneer simply make Car stereos and nav units that did not SUCK.

Honestly their UI is horrible at best. How people tolerate the half assed user interface of aftermarket car stereos I'll never understand.

Re:That's all we need ... (1)

BasilBrush (643681) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839858)

More distractions while driving. Is it too much to ask that people drive when behind the wheel?

Navigation is a driving task. Drivers are less distracted if they delegate the task of choosing routes through unfamiliar territory to a machine.

Re:That's all we need ... (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#33840348)

I think that if this technology is considered OK for military pilots, I think that it's OK for people driving. But it all depends upon what it's used for and what's permitted. Having it show navigation information and possibly highlight signs for you would probably increase safety significantly.

And I'm sure that in the future they'll have it so that it highlights the lane markets and gives you an indication where you are in the lane.

Beyond that, I think that when they figure out how to have it tell you how far away the next car is and possibly the one behind you as well, that definitely will save lives.

Oh Crap (3, Funny)

GrumpySteen (1250194) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838030)

"...an animated Android robot"

Don't be fooled. It's Clippy in disguise.

"You appear to be driving along the edge of a cliff. Can I help you with that?"

Re:Oh Crap (1)

FallinWithStyle (1474217) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839156)

Actually, from the second link: "In the mock-up shown off at Japan's annual tech show Ceatec, a virtual Kyoto cityscape was created where a character, not unlike Window's animated paperclip, pops up to guide a person around the city"

Bright, high-contrast lasers pointed out the front (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33838034)

So are they at all concerned about the effect of these lasers on pedestrian or on-coming drivers eyes? That said, an IRL minimap is pretty damn cool.

Sounds great, looks cool, but... (2, Insightful)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838052)

...what happens when the computer or display goes haywire or sends you in to an uncharted area? Do you follow your sense of sight or do you just drive off the cliff? (too bad they didn't have these for Segways)

FTA: "The prototype uses a laser to display bright, high-contrast, full-color images on a screen that would be mounted above the dashboard, between the driver and the windscreen. To the driver the projected images would appear in the lower part of the windscreen."

Gives new meaning to the term 'distracted driving'

Re:Sounds great, looks cool, but... (3, Insightful)

Nidi62 (1525137) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838088)

People do this anyway with hand-held or dash-mounted GPS navigation. You hear stories all the time of people driving down closed streets, or through construction areas all because their GPS told them to even though there are plenty of signs warning them. People are going to be idiots and not pay attention to where they're going regardless.

Re:Sounds great, looks cool, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33838276)

It's not just people being stupid though, it's hard to drive and do other complex tasks at the same time.

If you ask me they should all the outlawed. People need to plan their routes ahead and if they get lost they need to stop and reexamine their maps.

Re:Sounds great, looks cool, but... (2, Interesting)

Jakester2K (612607) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839132)

It's not just people being stupid though, it's hard to drive and do other complex tasks at the same time.

If you ask me they should all the outlawed. People need to plan their routes ahead and if they get lost they need to stop and reexamine their maps.

If you ask me, human drivers should be outlawed.

Re:Sounds great, looks cool, but... (1)

BasilBrush (643681) | more than 3 years ago | (#33840062)

Some people were doing stupid things like that before there were sat-navs. If you've got any evidence that people do it more often when using a sat-nav, then I'm interested. But just the information that some people with sat-navs STILL do stupid things is not particularly interesting.

Re:Sounds great, looks cool, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33838692)

(too bad they didn't have these for Segways)

Can you elaborate on this part? It can be taken two different ways.

Re:Sounds great, looks cool, but... (1)

srmalloy (263556) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838852)

FTA:
"The prototype uses a laser to display bright, high-contrast, full-color images on a screen that would be mounted above the dashboard, between the driver and the windscreen. To the driver the projected images would appear in the lower part of the windscreen."

Gives new meaning to the term 'distracted driving'

Not until Amazon.com releases a Kindle app for it.

Re:Sounds great, looks cool, but... (1)

Sloppy (14984) | more than 3 years ago | (#33840938)

...what happens when the computer or display goes haywire or sends you in to an uncharted area?

That will never happen, because it doesn't have the capacity to "send" you anywhere. It can only display advisory informat--wait, this is going to be wired into the car's control system? NOOOOOO!!

It should show speed / other gauges as that will b (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838278)

It should show speed / other gauges as that will be a big help no need to look down to see your speed / look at your car gauges.

Re:It should show speed / other gauges as that wil (1)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838344)

Many cars already have such a system. Not saying that the laser system couldn't also be used for the task, of course.

But the value of the laser seems to be in its ability to draw shapes that are not predetermined and preprogrammed. Digits or a dial could be useful displayed on the HUD, but so could a graphical display of your car relative to others nearby. It could help parking, changing lanes, and merging.

Try head-up display (2, Funny)

dbosso (457577) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838306)

...unless your name is Zaphod.

Re:Try head-up display (1)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838930)

It's actually "Head's-Up" display, which is a shortening of the original terminology "The Head Is Up" Display.

Re:Try head-up display (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33840044)

Actually, you are wrong [wikipedia.org] yet again. In fact, a google search for "The head is up display" gives your comment as the first result!

Re:Try head-up display (1)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#33841102)

Ooops. The term is older than I thought. It originates with baseball and refers to all the players having all their heads up & being alert while playing. The oldest citation I could find comes from 1914.

awesome! (4, Funny)

fred fleenblat (463628) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838308)

HEY what would be awesome is a 3D color display of the cars, pedestrians and roadway ahead of my vehicle.
that would be awesome!

Re:awesome! (1)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838406)

HEY what would be awesome is a 3D color display of the cars, pedestrians and roadway ahead of my vehicle.
that would be awesome!

at night.

Re:awesome! (1)

Sulphur (1548251) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838652)

Prior art: Windshield, headlights, and wipers.

Re:awesome! (1)

bennomatic (691188) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838776)

and infrared sensors.

Re:awesome! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33840110)

I'd like a forward looking camera view from 20 feet behind and 10 feet above my car.

Da-oh! (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838510)

I, for one, welcome our robot overl...

The prototype uses a laser to display bright, high-contrast, full-color images on a screen that would be mounted above the dashboard so drivers don't have to take their eyes fully off the road in order to receive driving instructions from their robot overlords.

Hey, how are we supposed to make jokes about overused memes around here?

Green Laser (2, Interesting)

kaiser423 (828989) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838548)

So, does this mean that Microvision finally solved the green laser issue? From what I remember, their display is absolute badass packed into a box, but the green lasers on the market now are low volume, are expensive and require some fancy tricks to get them to work, making the overall design more expensive among other things.

If they ever get a green laser on par with their red or blues, then man this display will take off and you'll see it EVERYWHERE because it will be low power, small enough and cheap enough to put just about anywhere.

Re:Green Laser (1)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838564)

Power is not a huge concern for most in-vehicle systems.

Re:Green Laser (1)

bennomatic (691188) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838802)

Tell that to my wife's Saturn. She won't get her AC belt fixed, so not only does it make terrible noise, but it puts more load on the alternator than it can handle when the it's running. So on a hot day, she's actually depleting the battery as she drives.

Re:Green Laser (2, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839388)

Tell that to my wife's Saturn. She won't get her AC belt fixed

The car is working as expected. Your wife seems to be the problem. ;-)

Re:Green Laser (1)

kaiser423 (828989) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838896)

No, but low volume is. They haven't been able to support more than a trickle of devices currently, and have been trying to ramp it up for years. Not even enough to support the ultra-high end car production rate.

Re:Green Laser (1)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838990)

How is the visibility? Is the green laser going to provide better contrast and visibility than red?

Re:Green Laser (2, Informative)

TheEyes (1686556) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839440)

So, does this mean that Microvision finally solved the green laser issue?

Well, last year-ish [arstechnica.com] was when researchers finally made a true green laser diode; hopefully by now that means they've increased the efficiency so that it's actually practical.

Nice, but. (1)

Conspiracy_Of_Doves (236787) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838730)

I recall seeing a mockup of a system that would actually project an image on the windshield that would appear to be a line hovering above the actual road (above the tops of the cars) tracing the route you need to take. How long till we get that? Granted, it would have to know exactly where the driver's eyes are in order to make sure the positioning is correct, but that shouldn't be too much of a problem.

Re:Nice, but. (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#33840446)

It's primarily an issue of cost. The technology has been there for some time, it's just a matter of figuring out how to do it cost effectively. The driver's head doesn't move that much during the course of driving, I suspect the way they'd do that would be similar to the rear view mirror.

About freakin time (2, Interesting)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838810)

The last couple of cars I bought I refused the option of a built-in satnav. Nevermind that they are way over-priced compared to portable units - the real problem I have is placement. I can put a portable unit right on the dash in front of me so I barely have to take my eyes off the road. Almost all of the built-in satnavs have their display half-way down the middle console where it is a major distraction to look at. Infiniti, and I think Volvo, used to have satnavs that popped up in the middle of the dashboard so at least the driver did not need to look down into the car in order to see the screen, but for some reason their newer models dropped that design and went to the crappy placement.

Re:About freakin time (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839136)

The last couple of cars I bought I refused the option of a built-in satnav. Nevermind that they are way over-priced compared to portable units - the real problem I have is placement.

Yeah, the built in ones are a joke -- I remember looking to replace the DVD (yes, DVD) in my wife's old car. It was a 2003 model, and to get a new DVD for the satnav would have been something like $800 or so. You could buy multiple portable devices for that. At that point, the portable ones had way more features than the built-in.

The placement is kind of strange. Putting it where the stereo is is too low. My window mounted one is only slightly lower than my rearview mirror and doesn't block the view of the road. I can check the nav systm without taking my eyes any further off the road than my mirror. I can also completely ignore it when I don't need it.

And, just think, soon everybody (if you believe Microsoft) is going to have a full-on touch screen entertainment system embedded in their dash. That should cause some fun. :-P

Re:About freakin time (2, Informative)

Cederic (9623) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839512)

I must be weird. I have a speedometer and other instruments on the dash in front of me. Above those is the windscreen, revealing the world around me.

I like a built-in satnav because it's out of the way, it isn't blocking key information sources and I can ignore it easily.

That said, my current car's satnav is built into the top of the dash, which is indeed more sensible than putting it down with the aircon controls.

(The other advantage of built-in satnav is that you also tend to get better electronics with it - it's all fluff, but it makes owning a car nicer. E.g. BMW 1 series with satnav has a decent i-drive; BMW 1 series without satnav has horrible UI)

Re:About freakin time (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#33840462)

Just a thought, you'd probably be better off getting one which talks to you. And only looking at it while parked or at a red light to adjust it.

Re:About freakin time (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 3 years ago | (#33841156)

Just a thought, you'd probably be better off getting one which talks to you. And only looking at it while parked or at a red light to adjust it.

Why is that better than having one in my normal field of view?
My complaint is not that the satnav functionality distracts me,
it is that putting it outside of my normal field of view makes its use dangerous.

I'm perfectly fine with my mobile satnav sitting right there on the dash above the
wheel. In fact, it makes me a better driver because it also displays a speedometer,
further reducing the distance my eyes need to move in order to monitor operation
of the vehicle.

Sweet! (1)

Greyfox (87712) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838936)

Will it integrate with my car's weapon systems?

LaserDisc? (1)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#33838994)

For about a second I thought this article was about Pioneer Prppping a new LaserDisc gadget.

I need to stop living in the past.

Why not have this sooner? (1)

gmac63 (12603) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839178)

Why haven't we had this sooner? Seems a no-brainer to put most car display on a HUD. I'm talking basic automotive display not navigation or other distracting display. We need this NOW. Maybe more people would be more conscious of what they are doing, what the condition of the car is and gee, keep their eyes up and more on the road.

Just my $.02

Re:Why not have this sooner? (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839428)

Why haven't we had this sooner?

Cost. It's that simple.

That's why Cadillac has had a night-time HUD on their cars for, what, a decade now? Because at that price point, they can jam in a bit of extra tech.

The guy buying the Dodge Neon? Not so much.

Re:Why not have this sooner? (1)

UncleTogie (1004853) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839442)

Why haven't we had this sooner? Seems a no-brainer to put most car display on a HUD. I'm talking basic automotive display not navigation or other distracting display. We need this NOW. Maybe more people would be more conscious of what they are doing, what the condition of the car is and gee, keep their eyes up and more on the road.

Same gripe, and I'll take it further: I'd like to be able to customize the instrument panel in my Crown Vic, but there's a marked lack in aftermarket instrument clusters. If I had investment capital, I'd have been all over this years ago.

Re:Why not have this sooner? (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 3 years ago | (#33839668)

I'd like to be able to customize the instrument panel in my Crown Vic

Given the primary demographics of Crown Vics (cops, cabs, and old people) it doesn't strike me as a vehicle with a big demand for after market goodies.

Hondas with coffee-can sized exhaust pipes, however, you can buy anything you want. :-P

Re:Why not have this sooner? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33839948)

John Casey doesn't seem to have a problem accessorizing his Crown Vic.

Involuntary man$laughter (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33839204)

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Self-referencing comment (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33839496)

Requisite comment about sharks and fricken' lasers.

mo3 up (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33839692)

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Augmented reality glasses... (1)

sznupi (719324) | more than 3 years ago | (#33840156)

And some people I know doubted we will see it during the whole upcoming decade. Now, I need to figure out the best layout of body function sensors and translate their readings to a 0-100 numerical values, to be displayed in the corner. Ammo value might have some practical limits...oh well, a crowbar doesn't need it.

Augmented contact lenses would be even more optimal.

How much time in development ? (1)

billcopc (196330) | more than 3 years ago | (#33841494)

I'm curious as to how long this project has been in development. I remember, way back when I was going through my "pimp my ride" phase, more than once did the thought cross my mind to set up a laser graffiti system for my windshield. I figured if people can draw on walls or even buildings with that stuff, why not my own car ? I actually ordered the gadget and tried it out, but it was shooting through the windshield and was more visible from outside than in. I didn't know shit about light polarization back then so I flogged it on eBay and used a touchscreen instead... but this would have been late 2001 or so.

I'm largely a PC and audio geek, but I figure a laser geek would have succeeded where I failed, so surely someone else must have already created this tech long ago ? With all the (often pointless) tech ricers cram into their cars, and the constant race to have the blingiest bling, even by sheer statistical probability someone would have stumbled upon it out of curiosity.

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