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'Back To the Mac' Media Event On October 20th

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the look-at-the-new-kitty dept.

Desktops (Apple) 349

Kildjean writes "Engadget reports that Apple has issued invitations for a special media event to be held next Wednesday, October 20th at 10:00 AM Pacific Time. The invitation for the event, which is to be held at the company's campus in Cupertino, California, carries the tagline 'Back to the Mac.' The invitation also contains an image of what appears to be a lion peeking out from behind the Apple logo, hinting at discussion of Mac OS X 10.7. 'Lion' has been one of the most commonly-suggested 'big cat' names for the next-generation operating system. Much of Apple's notebook line with the exception of the entry-level MacBook is due for a refresh, and Apple has refreshed at least a portion of its notebook line each October or November for the last several years. Apple's desktop offerings have all been updated relatively recently, suggesting that the company's media event may focus on notebooks if new hardware is included on the agenda."

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And??? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33884858)

This is worthy of a front page news item why?

Re:And??? (4, Insightful)

zn0k (1082797) | more than 3 years ago | (#33884888)

Because the release of the next major version of the second most popular Desktop OS family is news.

Just like the release of Ubuntu 10.10 and Windows 7 were news.

Re:And??? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33884916)

Windows 7 and Ubuntu were actually relevant to the majority of /. members.

Re:And??? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33884962)

Slashdot is friendly to LGBT community and needs to cater to their interests as well. Hence, the Mac news.

Re:And??? (2, Insightful)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#33884970)

So you're saying OS X is not? I would be interested if Apple announces the successor to Snow Leopard and what features it might have. Then there is the hardware refresh.

Re:And??? (0, Troll)

paimin (656338) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885048)

Not everyone here is an Apple-hate troll like you.

Re:And??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885142)

Some of us left linux for a more polish UNIX.

Dead fucking serious.

1994-2002 were great years to use linux. Haven't missed it at all.

Re:And??? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885232)

Joke's on you then. OSX isn't Polish.

"Dead fucking serious?" There's no way you were even born in 1994.

Re:And??? (2, Insightful)

Tsiangkun (746511) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885294)

Haha. AC has a point. MacOS is the UNIX on the desktop and laptop that linux was never able to achieve.

Re:And??? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885250)

I would bet money there are more OSX users on Slashdot than linux users.

Re:And??? (1)

Vectormatic (1759674) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885422)

now that would be an interesting poll

Re:And??? (2, Insightful)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885788)

Also there's probably lots like me that use more than one (Windows, Linux, and OS X).

Re:And??? (0, Troll)

sexconker (1179573) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885080)

Because the release of the next major version of the second most popular Desktop OS family is news.

Vista/7 is getting a major version update?

Protip, duder:

XP//NT/2000
7/Vista
--LARGE GAP HERE--
Linuxes
OS X

Re:And??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885236)

Clearly you're trolling. Show me one somewhat reliable report on how many users use each OS that doesn't put Windows 5.x/6.x first, OS X.x second and Linux (all distros) third on the desktop...

Re:And??? (3, Insightful)

ByOhTek (1181381) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885162)

This isn't the release of the next major version. This is a press release for an event for which there is speculation for the next major release being announced.

The announcement of the release or upcoming release would actually be FP worthy.

Re:And??? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885328)

And if there actually was a release, this would be news. Instead its half assed, baseless speculation based on a the graphic for a press event. Whether you love or hate Apple, this is pretty pathetic to put on the front page.

Re:And??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885396)

It's just the standard Apple marketing. The whole hipster blogosphere will cream itsself over the slightest hint of what Apple will do or not do.

Re:And??? (-1, Troll)

Stregano (1285764) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885490)

I would be excited if there was a way to run 10.7 on my current specs on my machine instead of having to drop 2000-3000 on an apple. Yes, I understand why it is done that way normally. You can see this as a troll post, but I am being honest, not trolling. I would be more than happy to switch to OSX if they worked out compatibility so that I can do what I do with *nix or windows and just install that on my main pc. 2000-3000 would get me an awesome upgrade on my current system that would blow a mac out of the water (unless I put OSX on there, than that would be cool). When it comes to new versions of OSX, that is the #1 main reason why I am never interested in those releases, but always interested in new Ubuntu or Windows versions that come out

Daily Steve Jobs Bowl Movement Updates Next (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33884988)

Man, I remember when Slashdot use to be a tech and open source news and tech discussion forum. Can't believe it has transformed into an Apple fanblog.

This just in... (1)

name_already_taken (540581) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885442)

Steve Jobs has just washed* his cereal bowl, a spoon, and what appears to be a small plate.

* You can actually see him, through his kitchen window, doing his dishes if you walk down his street.

If you were talking about bowel movements, well that's not only gross but silly too. Everyone knows the iToilet hasn't been unveiled yet. At least it won't have the buffer overflows that Microsoft's MyToilet prototype suffered from when Steve Ballmer demonstrated it.

Re:And??? (0, Troll)

ihatejobs (1765190) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885070)

Because Slashdot has a giant hard on for anything to do with Apple and their lemmings.

Go iSheep go!

This is news? (2, Insightful)

kellyb9 (954229) | more than 3 years ago | (#33884934)

I'll admit, I'm not a huge fan of Apple. But this is the biggest non-news story ever posted to Slashdot. Basically, Apple is holding an event where they *may* introduce a new release of their operating system and their laptop and desktop lineup is due for a refresh which may or may not happen on Oct 20th. There's absolutely no information in there thats news.

Re:This is news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885004)

I think we're supposed to start guessing the next OS X name or something, as if we are children.

Re:This is news? (3, Funny)

God'sDuck (837829) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885050)

I think we're supposed to start guessing the next OS X name or something, as if we are children.

OS X Kitty! ( http://xkcd.com/231/ [xkcd.com] )

Re:This is news? (3, Funny)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885028)

There's absolutely no information in there thats news.

[Steve Jobs arches fingers and raises eyebrow] "Excellent"

Re:This is news? (1)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885384)

I did a job interview with Apple recently, and one question I asked was, "is it true that at Apple you work really hard?" The interviewers both stiffened and said, "where did you hear that?" I was surprised that the question bothered them, so I said, "you know, everywhere.....my friends, slashdot........" They looked at me awkwardly and said, "we have a policy at Apple that we can't comment on rumors."

Then they relaxed, smiled, and said, "but you can ask us directly if we work hard." So I did. And there was no problem. They take secrets seriously there, I guess.

BTW, pro tip: if you're in a job interview, never ask if they work really hard. Doesn't help. Sigh.

Re:This is news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885622)

Sounds as if you were visiting North Korea.

Re:This is news? (3, Informative)

pyite (140350) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885892)

one question I asked was, "is it true that at Apple you work really hard?"

Why in the world would you possibly ask this? All it does is make you sound scared of hard work. Of course they work hard! Anyone at the top of their field always does. It's how you get there.

Re:This is news? (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885074)

It's a matter of style. On slashdot, there are MS and Linux alpha releases, beta releases, pre-release candidate releases, candidate release, RTM releases, and final releases. Apple is fairly reticent about releases: Announcement, beta, then final. Since Apple does not announce every little thing it does, it's more newsworthy when they do.

Re:This is news? (5, Insightful)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885224)

Not quite. Apple is: Pre-knowledge rumors, rumors, post-rumor rumors, faked Steve Jobs e-mail rumors, announcement, pre-beta rumors, beta, post-beta rumors, faked Steve Jobs e-mail rumors, final [, faked Steve Jobs e-mail rumors].

Re:This is news? (2, Informative)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885376)

None of which Apple does. It's all speculation by third parties because Apple only has few official announcements.

Re:This is news? (1)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885496)

Granted, though it doesn't go out of its way to discount very many rumors, either.

Also, this story isn't mostly about an official announcement. It's rumors about the official announcement...

Re:This is news? (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885680)

Granted, though it doesn't go out of its way to discount very many rumors, either.

Because maybe they get tired of telling people: Unless you hear it from us, it's a rumor. Heck even Verizon has said that any announcement about a Verizon iPhone will come from Apple. And this is an official announcement next week with hints about what will come. There will always be speculation regardless. I think 10.7 will be announced. It's about time if history is any judge.

Re:This is news? (1)

ihatejobs (1765190) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885090)

Slashdot must keep up with its One Apple Story per day minimum, otherwise it would collapse in on itself for having actual news on the front page.

Re:This is news? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885604)

It's how we keep the doctor away.

Are You Serious? I Can't Control Myself Right Now! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885104)

I'm am so totally going to this event!

I'm going to scream and cry at every word Jobs utters.

I'm going to jump up and down while I tinkle my panties with joy at the marvels that are going to be revealed!

I just KNOW whatever it is it is going to be TEH BEST THING EVAH!

I am going sit around chatting with my Hipster Douchebag Friends at the local Starbucks about what colour mine is going to be.

And I'm going to have TEH BEST unboxing vid on youtube for whatever magical thing gets revealed.

God I'm feeling horny. Need to go find my black turtleneck and my Apple branded anal dildo...

Re:This is news (2, Insightful)

kwerle (39371) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885332)

I recommend you change your /. settings so you don't see apple news.

Easy enough.

Re:This is news? (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885554)

It's the first OS X / Mac event in a while, with strong hints it's about an upcoming version.

I wonder how the milky way is *maybe* more square-like is a better story here. :p

Honestly, it was quite a while since Apple had an event like this.

Re:This is news? (1)

jDeepbeep (913892) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885894)

the biggest non-news story ever posted to Slashdot

You must be new here.

MBP (1)

Jethro (14165) | more than 3 years ago | (#33884948)

I hope they upgrade the MBP line (which they should, it's within their usual release cycle). My current Macbook (from before they had small MBPs) is getting old and slow and can't really handle having two people logged in and running Firefox at the same time anymore, and I didn't want to get a new one when they were this close to releasing new ones!

Re:MBP (1)

twistedcubic (577194) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885214)

But didn't they just recently update the Macbook Pro in April? (6 months ago)

Re:MBP (1)

Jethro (14165) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885324)

Not the 13.3" version.

Re:MBP (1)

Bert64 (520050) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885804)

How is the april macbook pro? I have the previous version from mid 2009 and it seems to choke under heavy disk io, which earlier models didn't seem to do so badly..

Re:MBP (2, Interesting)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885316)

I hope so too. I have a 2006 model MBP. I was planning on upgrading it after three years, but the available replacements at the time were only slightly faster. The current ones are a bit better. The i5 / i7 are a step up from the Core 2, and the increase in battery life looks okay. I'd also like an SSD, but getting the 256GB SSD and the decent screen pushes the price up to well over double what I paid for this machine, so I'll probably hang on to it for a bit longer, until flash prices drop.

Hopefully a refresh will push the machine I want from being near the top of the line to being a bit closer to the entry-level model. That said, the cheapest 15" MBP is currently more than I paid for this one when it was new...

Re:MBP (1)

Jethro (14165) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885426)

I've been upgrading the harddrive in my MB over the years - there's a 250GB drive in it now. I'm just going to move that over to the new laptop whenever that happens. SDDs seem cool but they push the price up an insane amount.

Re:MBP (4, Insightful)

DCstewieG (824956) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885386)

Step 1: Ditch Firefox. It's become a cow. Unless you absolutely need some extensions you can't get elsewhere, try Chrome or Safari.

zzzzzzzzz...media event....zzzzzzzzzz (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33884980)

You woke me up for this?

Just send me what Jobs is pushing the college demographic to ask mommy for this Christmas in an email. So I can delete it. (Like ZDNet.)

I welcome our OS IX overlords (5, Informative)

klubar (591384) | more than 3 years ago | (#33884990)

If Apple sticks with the "big cats" theme, then 10.7 will the last of the dot releases of OS X. There are only 7 big cats, unless you count the various leopards separately (but somehow the distinction between the Neofelis nebulosa and the Neofelis diardi may be too fine).
The big cats are:
  • Tiger, Panthera tigris (Asia)
  • Lion, Panthera leo (Africa, Gir Forest in India; extinct in former range of southeast Europe, Middle East, much of Asia, and North America)
  • Jaguar, Panthera onca (the Americas; from the Southern United States and Mexico to northern Argentina)
  • Cheetah, Acinonyx jubatus (Africa and Iran; extinct in former range of India)
  • Cougar, Puma concolor (North and South America)
  • Leopards
    • Snow Leopard, Uncia uncia (mountains of central and south Asia)
    • Leopard, Panthera pardus (Asia and Africa)
    • Bornean Clouded Leopard, Neofelis diardi (Borneo and Sumatra)
    • Clouded Leopard, Neofelis nebulosa (southeast and south Asia)

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885052)

damn nigga, did you go to cat college or something?

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885632)

oh ho! it's funny because instead of weed he talks about the cats! (this is a family guy quote referencing "half baked" to avoid some "woosh" moments).

but really, you are slightly off. BIG CAT COLLEGE.

I welcome our OS XI overlords as well (1)

klubar (591384) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885064)

That would be the wayback machine to OS 9 (which may have been one of the finest OSs ever). I welcome our XI overlords as well.

Re:I welcome our OS XI overlords as well (1)

Y-Crate (540566) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885518)

I would argue Mac OS 8.6 was the best Classic OS release. It pushed the old architecture about as far as it could go, and got it about as stable as you could hope for given the technical limitations of cooperative multitasking and unprotected memory.

It removed a ton of cruft, swapped out the kernel, added Carbon support and basically pulled a Weekend at Bernie's on what was an embarrassingly out of date codebase.

I'm still not even sure why Mac OS 9 happened beyond the need for something between 8 and 10 on the release schedule. It didn't add very many new features (voice login and uh... yeah), and brought us back to 8.5 levels of stability. Definitely the Weekend at Bernie's 2 release. An uninspired and pointless sequel that arrived too late.

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (4, Funny)

God'sDuck (837829) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885072)

  • Piano Cat

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885076)

They can start on domestic cats. OS 11.0 "Tortie"

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (3, Funny)

at_slashdot (674436) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885096)

Maybe they will have a Liger release :D

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885780)

wouldn't that be bloat-wear It continues to take system resources due to bad memory handling and grows until it crashes.

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885102)

Re: I welcome our OS IXoverlords

Stop living in the past. OS 9.2.2 is long forgotten.

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (3, Interesting)

samkass (174571) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885108)

Could include some now-extinct cats like sabre-toothed ones. But you're probably right... MacOS X is now about 10 years old and is probably due for a major rejiggering soon.

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (1)

VolciMaster (821873) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885884)

Could include some now-extinct cats like sabre-toothed ones. But you're probably right... MacOS X is now about 10 years old and is probably due for a major rejiggering soon.

And Linux is about 19 years old and is probably due for a major rejiggering, too :)

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885152)

Snow leopards, and Leopards are separate Genus. Something you should have noticed sine your said seven, but then only listed six categories.

And big cat isn't an actual classification.

So they could go with 'Saber tooth' or maybe 'LOL'

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885278)

OS X 10.8 Battle Cat
OS X 10.9 Lion-O

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (4, Funny)

mr_mischief (456295) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885502)

10.10 Thunder, thunder, Thundercats! Hoooooo!

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885550)

ThunderCats Ho!

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (1)

metamechanical (545566) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885196)

I think you forgot long cat.

From everything I learned in school, long cat is long.

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885234)

Right. Because all along, Apple's OS X development has been held hostage to the number of big cat species. Somehow, I'm not worried that Apple will run out of name or ideas for OS X.

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (1)

linguizic (806996) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885238)

You forgot to mention LOL cat. Personally I would love to have OS X Ceiling Cat and OS X Basement Cat.

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (1)

Hylandr (813770) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885272)

In keeping with the status quo within apple I suggest naming the next OS "Robot Unicorn".

- Dan.

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (1)

Dynedain (141758) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885290)

Since they are using the names, and except for the Cheetah print and Snow Leopard, not actually showing pictures of the animals, they still have options. They used both Panther and Jaguar.

10.0 Cheetah
10.1 Puma
10.2 Jaguar
10.3 Panther
10.4 Tiger
10.5 Leopard
10.6 Snow Leopard
10.7 Lion?

Other names still available, especially if they include medium-sized cats (which they already did depending on how you classify puma):
bobcat, mountain lion, lynx, cougar, caracal, ocelot, and a whole slew of region-specific minor species

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (1)

mr_mischief (456295) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885580)

Although Apple could probably pull it off, I'd be wary if I was naming an operating system to call it Lynx, but I agree with your general idea that they aren't limited to the exact divisions a zoologist or geneticist might impose upon the list.

There's no reason they couldn't change from cats to something else within 10, though. There's also no reason they couldn't bump the version numbers to 11 just to start a new list even if it's not a major rewrite of the system. Microsoft sure wouldn't be able to sue them for misleading version numbers on that count.

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (1)

twistedcubic (577194) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885292)

Actually, I heard they were considering using characters from Toy Story for OS XI.

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885326)

Yeah but that doesn't mean Apple has to stick to big cat families.

  • Ocelot
  • Caracal
  • Serval
  • Bobcat

Also they could use species like they did for Snow Leopard. After all Snow Leopard was a major change under the hood from Leopard but didn't add many user distinguishable changes. The main thing users may have noticed is that the system files and library sizes shrunk by half or so. There are also the hybrid species like Tiglon and Ligers.

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885350)

"There are only 7 big cats, unless you count the various leopards separately (but somehow the distinction between the Neofelis nebulosa and the Neofelis diardi may be too fine)."

There are many more if you include extinct ones such as the saber-toothed cats [wikipedia.org] . Although naming an OS after an extinct species might not be desirable :-)

And let's not forget the vast diversity of the lolcat clan [wikipedia.org] .

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885392)

Since you mention it, "Clouded" Leopard is kind of a no brainer...

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885402)

What about OS X 10.8 Thundercat?

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (1)

phallstrom (69697) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885536)

I predict that about the time OSX runs out of big cat names, Microsoft will jump on the big cat bandwagon and release Windows Garfield. Millions of dollars will be spent marketing it, Odie will replace Clippy, and after selling hundreds of copies, Microsoft will declare it a success[1]

[1] in relation to the Kin.

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (1)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885558)

They already used Puma, which isn't on your list, so I'm guessing they'll just pick some smaller cats. OS X 10.8 Serval!

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885790)

Maybe they'll release a netbook friendly OS and call it Kute Kitten.

Re:I welcome our OS IX overlords (1)

Bert64 (520050) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885852)

We've had snow leopard, so perhaps clouded leopard is the next one!

Allow me... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33884992)

Here's what is going happen:

* Jobs will give the name of the new OS that won't be coming out for at least a year and encourage developers to get involved with it by offering some promotion/kool-aide.

* There will be updates to the macbook pro and macbook air line. Maybe some small addition to the macbook. (The new macbook air is supposed to be epic. I'm gonna hope for -typical- with an i3 chipset. Just saying...)

* He will not want to talk about iOS saying this is about Macs with the exception of the new iLife Package which will have some App Made Easy program in it.

* See above...new version of iLife.

* There will be some one more things nonsense, everyone will go nuts. Drink more kool-aide, spend all your money...hoozah.

Yes, I own I mac and an iphone...but I hate the hype. Anyone that really cares read macrumors and daringfireball, right? (Yes, gruber is an asshole.)

Re:Allow me... (2, Interesting)

mr_mischief (456295) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885706)

I own a few Macs, but non with Intel CPUs in them. Mine all have 68xxx, G3, or G4 chips. I also own one iPod, but that was a gift from an employer. What I care about is the abilities of the system and the quality of the hardware and software. My older Macs serve the same purpose as my really old PCs: nostalgia.

All that said, it'd be stupid once you've built a hype-following fan base as a core part of your customer base not to keep them coming back for more hype. The company (while under good leadership) knows this, and won't lose its hype-loving fan base to Mac clones, BeOS, Haiku, Ubuntu, and other hype-happy developments if it can help it. Without Steve Jobs, they nearly lost their shirts without the hype. They'll give their market what it wants since he's back, and probably after he leaves again now that they've had a chance to learn the lesson the hard way.

Waiting on a Macbook Air refresh (1)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885068)

it is woefully overdue. Ramp it up to 4gb of memory at least, being stuck at 2gb really limits the device. Prices of SSD should allow it to be the only storage offering available.

Apple still needs something to excite the lower end consumer, the Mac Mini doesn't cut it as it doesn't even come with keyboard and mouse which really does put off some people. I think they would be best served offering it up with keyboard, mouse, and a decent (read:no ips) stand alone display. Give people a complete solution and try to get all this into their hands for as near to $500 you can. Yeah, I know, we can't reach that price point, but I don't see why 699 isn't possible with the screen instead of being the price for just the box. I know it won't happen, but it something has got to give. Perhaps a cheaper packaging of the mini components would do the trick.

Having seen people in Best Buy they never do much other than look at the price and then go play with the iPad.

Re:Waiting on a Macbook Air refresh (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885188)

If they did that wit the mine, it wuld cost as much as an iMac. Plus it would undermine the 'value' of all there other products. It would be a bad move for Apple. They are doing fine in the market they want. They don't want to compete with Dell.

Re:Waiting on a Macbook Air refresh (1)

Massacrifice (249974) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885562)

Forget it. They'll sell you an iPad instead of a Macbook Air. They make so much more money from the apps. They wont let their Mac business eat into their iGizmo business margins.

Jailbreak (1, Troll)

Microlith (54737) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885130)

I wonder how long it will be until Apple divides the low and high end Macs via lock down. They seem to have gotten people to buy into it in the mobile space, no reason they can't sucker more people in on the slightly higher end.

Android (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33885178)

Wait... you forgot to mention how this applies to Android. Slashdot, you're losing your fair and unbiased abilities.

Interested to see any changes in OSX (4, Insightful)

StuartHankins (1020819) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885274)

I recently (within the past few months) upgraded from Tiger to Snow Leopard and it went very well... I knew the next release would be out sometime before mid-2011 but I just couldn't wait any longer. The biggest issue for upgrading was not having updates for software running on Tiger anymore.

Things I hope they change:
  • Make it easier to install binaries used on other *nix systems. Because the pain of using Fink or DarwinPorts is too much. Both install absolutely ridiculous sized frameworks and trying to compile something when you don't have a binary is a mixture of voodoo and tears, roughly where Linux was 15 years ago. Recently I wanted to install a2ps to use some documentation scripts I created which run on Fedora / RHEL. I gave up, it was too much bother.
  • Make it easier to setup passthru printers (required to print large documents successfully from Parallels). Yes I know CUPS, I maintain all printers company-wide for our RHEL servers. So it was only a little bit of an inconvenience to setup... but the thought of trying to explain how to do that to someone else isn't a happy thought. The raw printers don't even show up in the GUI, the only way you see them is in Terminal or the CUPS web interface.
  • Let me set my Terminal preferences for new windows, then actually use those preferences. Every day at work, I start up at least 2 rdesktop sessions using a separate script for each. Every day it adds another terminal preference to the list. Periodically I go back and delete these extra prefs. Just use my existing prefs like Tiger did, already!
  • This new "downloaded from the internet" warning causes some people problems, so provide a way to turn it off. Previous versions of AFP do not like files with more than 2 or 3 extended attributes (or whatever they're called) and trying to copy or move these files to a network AFP share fails. I setup my downloads folder as a watched folder, and created a folder action script to remove 2 or 3 of the most common extended attributes. Another thing I don't want to try to explain to someone.
  • Change the swapping settings to be less aggressive by default. I upgraded to 4GB to get around most of the swapping but I've found the easiest way to keep the system stable and happy is to just shut it down regularly.
  • Please don't add a lot of extra eye candy or things to slow us down. I'm using a 2007 MacBook Pro and while it's plenty fast for what I need, I don't want to have to upgrade either.
  • Above all, the system works very well so don't screw it up. This is really important.

Re:Interested to see any changes in OSX (-1, Troll)

Massacrifice (249974) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885498)

Please don't add a lot of extra eye candy or things to slow us down. I'm using a 2007 MacBook Pro and while it's plenty fast for what I need, I don't want to have to upgrade either.

You do realize that Apple makes money when you buy a new computer from them don't you? Which implies that your needs being met is a hindrance to their bottom line. You can count on them piling superbly designed crap candy fad-driven GUI enhancements for the next hundred years or so.

That is, until they find a way to make you rent your computer, at which point they will suddenly stop all creative process and make you languish in computer limbo for as long as they can.

Re:Interested to see any changes in OSX (1)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885570)

You forgot "Please unbreak Spaces and Exposé", although I suppose that falls under "...don't screw it up" for Snow Leopard.

Spaces has a nasty "Oops I disabled the keyboard" bug that requires restarting the dock to get the keyboard back. It also has as some UI issues, previously you could hit your "show all desktops" shortcut and then a number for the desktop to go directly to the desktop, that's no longer possible. You also used to be able to hit the spaces shortcut followed by moving your mouse pointer over a desktop and then hitting the shortcut again to go to that desktop, that's also been taken away in Snow Leopard for some reason...

As for Exposé, the new layout seems, IMHO, to fly in the face of what we know about efficient user interface design, previously windows were placed relative to their position on the screen and sizes were also relative (large windows being large and small ones being small). Now we've got some weird layout where windows fly all over the place for no reason which makes it a lot harder to find windows quickly.

Re:Interested to see any changes in OSX (1)

StuartHankins (1020819) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885800)

I use Spaces daily / throughout the day, but I haven't run into this problem. Maybe because I invoke it using keyboard + mouse (Apple key + 3-finger click)? If it helps you, I'm using BetterTouchTool 0.626 to accomplish this.

Re:Interested to see any changes in OSX (1)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885876)

Well, from what I've read about this issue it only seems to occur when invoking Spaces using <shortcut key> + <number> combinations, something I use a lot.

Re:Interested to see any changes in OSX (2, Interesting)

AstrumPreliator (708436) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885664)

Make it easier to install binaries used on other *nix systems. Because the pain of using Fink or DarwinPorts is too much. Both install absolutely ridiculous sized frameworks and trying to compile something when you don't have a binary is a mixture of voodoo and tears, roughly where Linux was 15 years ago. Recently I wanted to install a2ps to use some documentation scripts I created which run on Fedora / RHEL. I gave up, it was too much bother.

I always wanted a very nice package management system for OSX. Kind of like Synaptic on top of apt. I agree that Fink and DarwinPorts are woefully lacking and I'd like to see an all-encompasing package management system for OSX. I'm just afraid if Apple has anything to do with it then it will turn out like their iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch app store.

People may say OSX 10.7 has a codename Cheetah... (2, Funny)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885352)

...but everyone knows they're Lion.

Thanks for Plagiarizing MacRumors without credit.. (3, Informative)

Anonymous Freak (16973) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885434)

Why, with the exception of removing direct internal MacRumors links, this "story" looks to be identical wording to the MacRumors [macrumors.com] story on this.

Re:Thanks for Plagiarizing MacRumors without credi (4, Informative)

Anonymous Freak (16973) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885462)

Correction: The original submission from Kildjean has the link to MacRumors at the bottom. The approved /. story does not. Kildjean did right, samzenpus removed it.

Dear Apple.... (2, Insightful)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885564)

I' love to "get back to the mac" but I cant. You wont make a mac pro that is affordable in any way so I had to abandon the Mac platform and go back to the PC platform like many MANY businesses have.

I would love to stick with Final Cut and the mac platform... but I am able to buy 2X the machine for 1/2 the money AND have enough left over to buy new video camera gear. for the price of ONE Mac Pro quad core that can do AVCHD editing smoothly.

I loved editing on the mac platform, but they made the mac pro platform way too expensive.

New desktop? (3, Insightful)

LoudMusic (199347) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885620)

The discussion seems to be very OS oriented, but I'd like to see some hardware changes. There have been plenty of "refreshes" but nothing that is a truly NEW Apple computer. How about a desktop computer between the mini and the pro? Something better than the absolute base model and the absolute top end, that I can use on my KVM switch. The current pricing is $700 and $2500. Bit of a price gap for headless desktops there.

Re:New desktop? (3, Informative)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885794)

How about a desktop computer between the mini and the pro?

That would be the iMac. Yes, I know it's got a monitor attached to it but that's what they're offering, and you can use it as just a monitor if you end up buying a faster machine and want to reuse the iMac's monitor.

Apple as a company seems to have little interest in a "pure" "hobbyist" machine, they sell systems...

  • Mac Mini - HTPC/SFF Desktop/Small server offering, plenty of punch of for its form factor, not much in terms of upgradeability.
  • iMac - Midrange to fairly powerful desktop, really only the RAM that can be easily upgraded (except for the usual external addons), hard drive can be replaced with a little effort (not that hard if you take a few minutes to read up on it beforehand).
  • Mac Pro - High end/upgradable system, this one is for those who need workstation performance/reliability and/or the ability to add and remove hardware.
  • XServe - The Mac server, that's about it. A pretty good offering if you're looking to buy servers for an almost all-Mac/*nix environment though.

FaceTime event (1)

WilyCoder (736280) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885758)

Only reason they are having this event is to announce and demo FaceTime for Mac.

*ducks*

What comes after Lion? (1)

surfcow (169572) | more than 3 years ago | (#33885822)

I'm voting for "ThunderCat".

Or perhaps "Tabby".

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