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Sony HDTVs To Come With Google TV Interface

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the TV-team-up dept.

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adeelarshad82 writes "Even though Google recently announced its own Google TV, seems like their partnership with Sony is going to make it obsolete. Google has partnered up with Sony to launch four HDTVs loaded with the Google TV interface, as well as a Google TV Blu-ray player. The company's Google TV products will be called Sony Internet TV. With the Google TV, Sony aims to provide a clean and easy way to browse the Web, watch TV, and run applications all on your HDTV. Google TV uses the true Chrome Web browser with Flash 10.1. Unfortunately though, at the moment it only has a handful of apps available but Sony said the OS will be updated in early 2011 to include the Android Market app with more options."

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Reasons this Will Fail: (1, Insightful)

sexconker (1179573) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887494)

No one cares about the current and planned IPTV offerings.
Cable/satellite companies will never let them mature into anything worthwhile.
Sony.

Reasons Slashdot will shit on this:
Flash.

Re:Reasons this Will Fail: (3, Insightful)

Facegarden (967477) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887612)

No one cares about the current and planned IPTV offerings.
Cable/satellite companies will never let them mature into anything worthwhile.
Sony.

Reasons Slashdot will shit on this:
Flash.

Its not so much IPTV like AT&T U-Verse, that requires everyone to agree on how it works, its just web TV, like Hulu. I already use Hulu as my main source of TV, and don't have cable, just internet, with a media center hooked up to the TV.

Plenty of people would do that too if it were built into to their TV already.

Re:Reasons this Will Fail: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33888128)

Aren't episodes unavailable on Hulu until 24 hours after they air?

Whereas pirated 352p xvids and 720p mkvs are almost always available within a half-hour, with no ads, and lower performance requirements (because no Flash needed).

Plenty of people would do that too if it were built into to their TV already, but for those of us already geeking about with computers hooked to our TVs, piracy seems to be the clear winner for watching current stuff; of course, Hulu should be good for older shows, where torrents are slow and rars are missing from the sharing sites. Well, it would be good if you live in the US or feel like messing with proxies, anyway...

And that brings me to my main source of trepidation about Google TV: will it let me install piracy apps (or even use the browser) for hunting down foreign shows and save them into my media library, or will it be DRMed so only MAFIAA-approved media dispensaries get first-class citizenship -- leaving me SOL if I import it to a country Hulu doesn't like?

Re:Reasons this Will Fail: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33889448)

Plenty of people would [watch Hulu] too if it were built into to their TV already.

And once plenty of people start watching then there will be 10 minutes of commercials to watch a 'half hour show' plus an intro commercial before you can even start playing it.

And then you'll be watching TV from torrents saying 'if only they built torrents into the tv tuner'.

Re:Reasons this Will Fail: firmware updates (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33887642)

You forget those famous mandatory firmwares that renders your TV useless. PS3/PSP crippling is just a preview for the next generation Sony appliances.

Re:Reasons this Will Fail: firmware updates (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33887672)

It IS sony, so we can expect firmware updates which remove features rather than add them.

Reasons parent comment fails (3, Informative)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887718)

No one cares about the current and planned IPTV offerings.

This isn't an IPTV offering. Its simply a Web + TV offering. It does incorporate access to existing Web video sources, but primarily the TV (content) part comes from whatever normal TV signal source you have.

Cable/satellite companies will never let them mature into anything worthwhile.

Which is probably why GoogleTV is designed primarily (for now) to bring existing Web content to your TV screen and enhance rather than replace traditional cable/satellite (or, AFAIK, broadcast) TV.

Sony.

Sony hasn't really been all that bad at selling TVs and other media products, so as much as some people may be upset about some things Sony has done in the past, I don't think that's a reason that the product will fail.

Re:Reasons parent comment fails (0, Flamebait)

sexconker (1179573) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887746)

No one cares about the current and planned IPTV offerings.

This isn't an IPTV offering. Its simply a Web + TV offering. It does incorporate access to existing Web video sources, but primarily the TV (content) part comes from whatever normal TV signal source you have.

Web + TV, you say?
Why, I could make billions if it was 1994 and the idea wasn't complete shit.

Re:Reasons parent comment fails (5, Insightful)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887878)

Web + TV, you say?
Why, I could make billions if it was 1994

Yes, nothing that has ever been, in generally similar terms, tried once and failed has ever been commercialized successfully later after technology has advanced and details of the approach were changed.

For instance, Apple isn't currently doing a brisk business in selling tablet computers despite the weak success of previous attempts of other companies to do that.

Re:Reasons parent comment fails (3, Insightful)

91degrees (207121) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887894)

Things have changed a little since 1994. Mainly that we have streaming video. It's an application that actually makes sense for a television.

Re:Reasons parent comment fails (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33889222)

I'd buy one. That would let me watch Nostalgia Chick on Youtube and regular cable (eg: History Channel) without having to hook a PC to my TV.

take that steve jobs (2, Funny)

alen (225700) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887526)

i predict google TV will be integrated into most TV's in the next 3-5 years which means every TV will soon ship with Flash

no need to fire up the computer for the porn tube sites

Re:take that steve jobs (0, Offtopic)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888192)

i predict google TV will be integrated into most TV's in the next 3-5 years which means every TV will soon ship with Flash

no need to fire up the computer for the porn tube sites

No worries. Jobs will follow with his release of iGoogleTV (err... ooops... I mean, iTV), without flash and with tight control over access to porn. By that time, the fanboys/girls will already have children of their own, be interested in protecting them (from exposure to Flash) and still look kool when having guests.

Streaming HTML5 <video> (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888518)

Jobs will follow with his release of iGoogleTV (err... ooops... I mean, iTV), without flash

"Without Flash" has been used as a code word for "with technologies under the HTML5 banner", including the <video> element.

and with tight control over access to porn.

If iOS for Apple TV gets an update to add a Safari browser comparable to the one on iPod touch, iPhone, and iPad, and this Safari has H.264 streaming <video>, how do you expect Mr. Jobs to control what <video> users watch?

Re:take that steve jobs (1)

dangitman (862676) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888842)

No worries. Jobs will follow with his release of iGoogleTV (err... ooops... I mean, iTV), without flash and with tight control over access to porn. By that time, the fanboys/girls will already have children of their own, be interested in protecting them (from exposure to Flash) and still look kool when having guests.

So, you support children being exposed to flashers? Pervert.

Order now for free rootkit! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33887540)

For the next mandatory firmware update, using Google update automatically censors 'unapproved' search terms. If you don't update, your TV will blow up. Just looked at how Sony incrementally crippled Playstation 3/PSP as a preview for Google TV.

Terrible summary. (4, Informative)

Facegarden (967477) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887576)

Paraphrasing since copy-paste isn't working (did slashdot do that on purpose or is my computer on crack?)

"Even though google annouced their own google tv... their partnership with sony will make it obsolete..."

Anyway.. whaaaa? Did the person writing this even read about Google TV? Google didn't announce a TV... the announced a software platform called Google TV, which sony is using. So the partnership isn't going to make it obsolete... it's USING Google TV!

Such a terrible summary its actually weird. Also, nice random semicolon.
-Taylor

Re:Terrible summary. (4, Insightful)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887630)

Such a terrible summary its actually weird.

One word: sampenzus.

Re:Terrible summary. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33888668)

samzenpus??

Re:Terrible summary. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33889150)

sadly, its getting closer to be all editors on /.

Re:Terrible summary. (1)

MichaelKristopeit 23 (1916796) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887636)

copy and paste only doesn't work for me when i use chrome... that, coupled with this story release, reveals quite obviously a position held by the site editors.

slashdot = stagnated

Re:Terrible summary. (1)

MichaelKristopeit 23 (1916796) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887714)

as a side note, you can get around the copy and paste restriction by piping a paste into a virtual keyboard echo interface... a handful of lines of codes for any high level development environment.

it's pathetic that a site that so often demonizes ineffective software restrictions would employ similar tools.

truly pathetic.

Re:Terrible summary. (0, Troll)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887730)

Or you could just right click the selected text and hit "copy". It's really not that complicated.

Re:Terrible summary. (1)

MichaelKristopeit 23 (1916796) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887826)

the right-click paste command, and the edit menu paste command both do nothing. it really is ridiculous.

Re:Terrible summary. (1)

Facegarden (967477) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887908)

Or you could just right click the selected text and hit "copy". It's really not that complicated.

Thank you, mr computer guru, I never thought of that... Only, IT DOESN'T PASTE. Something won't let it. Using chrome.

but thanks for being a jackass.

Re:Terrible summary. (2, Funny)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887944)

He wasn't being a jackass, he was being a moron.

Re:Terrible summary. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33888140)

well, he is using Chrome. And then bitching about it not working right.

Re:Terrible summary. (1)

negRo_slim (636783) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888126)

I've been having the same problem for a while now.

Re:Terrible summary. (1)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888216)

Happens to me as well with Chrome on Win. Doesn't happen with other browsers (IE on Win, FF on Linux).

Re:Terrible summary. (1)

Late Adopter (1492849) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887848)

I find it difficult to believe it's intentional, as it makes it difficult to quote someone.

It is, however, incredibly annoying.

Re:Terrible summary. (0, Offtopic)

dissy (172727) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888016)

I find it difficult to believe it's intentional, as it makes it difficult to quote someone.

That would go hand in hand with the meta-moderation page ripping out both the quote and i tags, so when you quote someone, the quoted text appears that You are saying it, and thus you get modded whatever the parent post should be/is.

The plot thickens...

Re:Terrible summary. (1)

Facegarden (967477) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888548)

I find it difficult to believe it's intentional, as it makes it difficult to quote someone.

That would go hand in hand with the meta-moderation page ripping out both the quote and i tags, so when you quote someone, the quoted text appears that You are saying it, and thus you get modded whatever the parent post should be/is.

The plot thickens...

Yeah. And the no paste thing only works in Chrome. Can someone check the page's source and see if there is something intentional in there blocking it?

Re:Terrible summary. (1)

sclark46 (969374) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888672)

Yeah. And the no paste thing only works in Chrome. Can someone check the page's source and see if there is something intentional in there blocking it? I just copied and pasted the above using chrome on Linux no problem.

Re:Terrible summary. (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887966)

I can't paste into the text box on /. either. I am using chrome. Using IE it works fine.

Re:Terrible summary. (1)

Trufagus (1803250) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887980)

And a couple of days ago there was an article about how Apple had started allowing Bluetooth data communications. Not only was this totally wrong (nothing had changed) but anyone who knew anything about Bluetooth on phones or who researched the topic for 5 minutes would have known this.

I think summaries like these are (and should be) very embarrassing for slashdot.

Are the editors here paid or are they volunteer (I will cut them more slack if they are volunteers)?

Re:Terrible summary. (2, Funny)

onkelonkel (560274) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888708)

The editors are undoubtedly volunteers. Or possibly they got their jobs through some sort of "hire the mentally challenged" program. If they were regular employees they would have all been fired 10 times by now.

Re:Terrible summary. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33889188)

Maybe they're C-level execs? Or full professors?

Re:Terrible summary. (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888158)

Also ...

no one currently owns a TV and no one else aside from sony makes them

No, Google did not announce it's own Google TV (4, Informative)

cmiller173 (641510) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887580)

Google did not announce it's own Google TV, Google announced Google TV products from partners Sony and Logitech. Which is what they were saying all along. May: http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/05/20/198242/Google-TV-Announced-With-Intel-Sony-and-Logitech [slashdot.org]

Re:No, Google did not announce it's own Google TV (1)

lennier1 (264730) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888722)

True

In case of Android they needed something to push the fairly young platform and explore some possibilities. Therefore they contracted out the production of their own featured handset.
But with their TV platform there's already the precedence of Android's market penetration and Google's video acquisitions. This made it easier to find strategic partners for the new product.

Great. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33887600)

Bundle everything in the TV, so I have to pay ridiculous sums of money to upgrade just one component. For bonus points, don't deliver firmware updates, or deliver ones that break current features, or ship with limited features and never update, so that I have to buy your product again in 1-2 years -- like Hulu support in 2011. Bastards.

Re:Great. (2, Interesting)

SudoGhost (1779150) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887650)

That's why I'm considering buying the Logitech one. After that PS3 Linux fiasco, they aren't getting my money that easily. The Logitech version comes with a keyboard that I prefer anyways.

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/smartTV/revue

Re:Great. (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33887844)

This isn't limited to Sony. Virtually all Blu-ray/TV manufacturers artificially limit updates and open access to their devices. In fact, Sony is one of the better ones in this area (for their higher-end products). If you purchased a Netflix/YouTube/Pandora/Hulu-capable Blu-ray player 5 months ago, it probably hasn't received substantial updates since, with the newer software features only appearing in later product versions... even though earlier versions have the same hardware.

Re:Great. (1)

SudoGhost (1779150) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888366)

This isn't limited to Sony.

Pushing firmware updates that remove an advertised feature is a common practice then?

I'd rather be kept in the dark with newer updates, then being forced to update the firmware in a manner that cripples the device.

Screw you Sony.

Re:Great. (1)

CronoCloud (590650) | more than 3 years ago | (#33889294)

Did you even have Linux on your PS3? If even 1/10th of the people who complain about SCEfoo removing Linux support had actually used it, the YDL forums would have been far far more busy.

Good idea (2, Interesting)

iONiUM (530420) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887618)

I think if all TVs had this it would be great. Built in surfing capabilities with WiFi? Who wouldn't want that, and what reason could you argue not to have it?

If it becomes a standard feature, then you could just buy a TV (with it) and not even use it if you don't want it. The only downside is devices like AppleTV will become obsolete. Well, "down side".

Re:Good idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33887708)

Why not? How about if I want to upgrade to GoogleTV hardware spec 2.0, and don't want to pay the unnecessary $700 fee for a TV screen that hasn't changed? Or vice-versa, to buy a 10" larger TV, but don't want to pay $200-300 for the same exact bonus features. Yeah, I could buy an external device in the first place, but if everything is integrated, there is no choice left.

Re:Good idea (2, Insightful)

twidarkling (1537077) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887716)

I can come up easily with reasons not to have it.

Best one? Cost. TVs are already expensive, and to stick a wireless nic in there would tack another $50+ on the price easily, for something I neither want nor need due to my set up far surpassing the need to hook my TV up to my network.

How about stability? Make TVs more complicated, all of a sudden my TV might start crashing, and I won't be able to do anything about it, unless the manufacturer includes an update down the road.

How about signal interference? Make it wifi only, and it's subject to the interference that makes so many areas unsuitable for wifi use. Put in a wired nic, and you're probably upping cost more.

There, three reasons, and two of them affect *everyone* even if they chose not to use the feature.

Re:Good idea (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888020)

TV's are cheap, considering what you are getting, and a wi-fi seutp up might be an additional 2 dollars... maybe.

Why a wi-fi set up would cause your tv to crash is beyond me, and I know how they design TVs.

A TV is full of features most people won't use. I don't use all my HDMI. but it would be stupid of me to bitch they are to many of them.

Re:Good idea (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888250)

It's not like Wi-Fi in a TV is a new thing, most Sony TVs already have Wi-Fi [sonystyle.com] because they can play the Bravia Internet Video service which includes netflix, youtube, hulu plus (soon), and a bunch of other junky little video sources that appear half-baked.

PS, Sony's page I linked already features the GoogleTV, so I guess they are serious.

I can't speak for google TV, but playing from Netflix is great. It's very convenient, and the HD stream looks better than DVD. (I do still have a PVR connected as well, but it's linux so it can't play Netflix). I doubt google TV will be a better computer than a PC-based PVR with a wireless mouse/keyboard, but then again I didn't think the iPad would catch on either :)

Re:Good idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33888676)

I half-agree on wireless inside TVs. It does have some purpose, not a lot though. When devices center around standards like WirelessHD it will be a lot more useful and a basic requirement of TVs. I can't help but feel that complex systems like GTV have no business being inside TVs though, now or ever. It's just one more way for these anti-consumer companies to extract money through false product support.

Re:Good idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33889170)

How about just logical design? If you integrate something like GoogleTV into the cable box or HTPC, then everything just works. Everything is already setup to go through the home theater receiver which can distribute the signal to the correct monitor/speakers (which do not have to be the ones in the same room.)

But if you integrate it into the TV, now you've got to send audio output from the TV to the receiver. And there's no way to run the video signal through the receiver...it's just a whole lot less flexible.

Re:Good idea (3, Insightful)

OldeTimeGeek (725417) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887742)

Who wouldn't want that, and what reason could you argue not to have it?

Because the components will become outdated long before the TV portion does and the only way to update will be to replace the entire thing. Or do you actually think it will be based on an open architecture that will allow replacement of components and still remain in warranty? Sorry, not for me.

Re:Good idea (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888040)

I am using the same wi-fi device I was using 8 years ago.

Seriously, your argument is pretty thin.

Re:Good idea (1)

OldeTimeGeek (725417) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888174)

And I have had three TVs over the past thirty years. In that time, I have had to fix or replace VCRs, LaserDisc players, TiVos and just about everything else that I've plugged into them because of a failure of one sort or another. The cost of all of them together was cheaper than a new TV. The fewer additional components, the less chance I'll have problems.

Re:Good idea (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33888414)

Your wifi device/router has horrifically slow data rates, is limited to 11-13 channels, operates in a frequency subject to massive interference, is borderline unusable in many populated areas, probably craps out while torrenting, doesn't support modern open firmware (small flash), and can only stream compressed video between ~15Mb-30Mb/s.

The hardware powering this TV's browser/Google TV stack will probably appear ancient in 2-3 years.

Re:Good idea (2, Interesting)

demonbug (309515) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888714)

Who wouldn't want that, and what reason could you argue not to have it?

Because the components will become outdated long before the TV portion does and the only way to update will be to replace the entire thing. Or do you actually think it will be based on an open architecture that will allow replacement of components and still remain in warranty? Sorry, not for me.

I agree. I hate that it has become nearly impossible to find a TV that is just a TV. Hell, in most cases even a TV tuner is unnecessary. It would be nice if some manufacturer put out a line of large-size monitors that skip out on all this BS. Just give me a ~55" LCD w/ as many LED backlights as you can, a few HDMI inputs, a couple s-video, component, and composite inputs, maybe a DVI input, and that's it. No speakers, no network interface, definitely no integrated online "experience". Probably don't even need any outputs. Okay, throw in an IR receiver so I can turn it on and off and change inputs without getting off the couch.
Other than that - I've got all my sources covered already, I don't need redundant sources built into the TV. Seriously, concentrate on providing the best picture quality possible at a given price point, and ditch everything else.

This might not actually reduce the overall cost a huge amount, but it should at least make a difference, and I wouldn't feel like I'm spending money on crap I will never use.

Hmm, maybe I should just get a projector.

Summary is bizarrely wrong (4, Informative)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887654)

Even though Google recently announced its own Google TV, seems like their partnership with Sony is going to make it obsolete

Wrong.

What Google announced was the GoogleTV platform. In the Google announcement, they announced a series of hardware manufacturer partners that would be developing devices incorporating the platform on TVs, Blu-Ray players, and standalone settop boxes. Sony was one of those.

Now Sony has announced some of the specific initial products that it will be making that incorporate the GoogleTV platform.

Unfortunately though, at the moment it only has a handful of apps available but Sony said the OS will be updated in early 2011 to include the Android Market app with more options.

Which is exactly what Google said when they announced GoogleTV.

Will it come pre-rooted? (1, Funny)

TheWoozle (984500) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887658)

All I want to know is if my new Sony TV will come with a free root kit pre-installed at the factory?

Wrong question. (3, Insightful)

srussia (884021) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887838)

All I want to know is if my new Sony TV will come with a free root kit pre-installed at the factory?

TV, Sony or not, is already a rootkit to your mind.

Re:Wrong question. (-1, Troll)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888054)

STFU, you idiot.

Re:Wrong question. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33888522)

Yeah, great argumentation there, buddy.

In soviet russia... (1)

noddyxoi (1001532) | more than 3 years ago | (#33889130)

the TV Programs YOU !

Re:Will it come pre-rooted? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33888076)

I know! Apparently after releasing a few CD's with rootkits several years ago, Sony now ships rootkits in every device they build! Earbuds? Rootkit. DVD Player? Rootkit. Those free lanyards they hand out at events? You don't even want to know what the rootkit's in those do! *shudder*

Oh while we're on stale jokes, I need to BRB cuz My Windows machine just did a BSOD LOLZ!!!!!!!11!!!

*facepalm*

Re:Will it come pre-rooted? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33888814)

You can take your palm from your face; it looks like a contrived action.
SONY's actions speak for themselves. Go ahead and make light of it, if you feel you must, it's only a question of time before SONY takes something from you as well. Go ahead and buy that TV, then realize afterward that you'll only watch what SONY tells you to watch. Or only "certified" equipment will play through it. Or some other idiotic SONY limit is pushed onto you. Personally, after purchasing a PS3 over and Xbox360 specifically because it boot and run Linux, then having SONY steal that from me, has made me see those thieving cheat bastards exactly for who they are. It'll be a cold day in hell before SONY sees another dime from me.
SONY doesn't deserve to be in an open market.

I wonder if.. (1)

Lanteran (1883836) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887680)

I wonder if there'll be some lawsuit about unfairly bundling the service with the TV, which caused the cable/satellite TV industry to shrivel at long last?

Re:I wonder if.. (1)

westlake (615356) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888348)

I wonder if there'll be some lawsuit about unfairly bundling the service with the TV, which caused the cable/satellite TV industry to shrivel at long last?

You mean like Netflix has been bundled with virtually every piece of home theater hardware sold with an Ethernet connection?

4 USB ports? (0)

dazedNconfuzed (154242) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887686)

...on a TV? Four?

Re:4 USB ports? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33887778)

...on a TV? Four?

I know what you're thinking... not very many.

Re:4 USB ports? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33887896)

Fuck it, we're doing 5 ports.

Re:4 USB ports? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33887946)

Four should be enough for everyone.

Re:4 USB ports? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33888426)

With the prospect of having Android in early 2011 (evolving towards a computer): 1 for the keyboard, 1 for the mouse, 1 for the external HDD, 1 for the WebCam... dude, where I'm plugin in my USB graphic tablet?
I wonder if the Sony incarnation will have multi-touch screen, though, I'd hate not to be able to run Google apps for my HTC Desire, especially some GoogleMaps-based while travelling

(note: an would-be sarcastic post on the extreme convergence of devices)

Re:4 USB ports? (2, Insightful)

Animaether (411575) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888170)

Mouse and/or keyboard for those things that just don't work so well with the fancy remote, external HDD to play back content from (instead of a media center thing that plays back over HDMI and needing an HDMI switch), camera/card reader (presuming it doesn't have a built-in card reader)... yeah, those 4 could end up being used simultaneously just fine.

Re:4 USB ports? (1)

Facegarden (967477) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888540)

Mouse and/or keyboard for those things that just don't work so well with the fancy remote, external HDD to play back content from (instead of a media center thing that plays back over HDMI and needing an HDMI switch), camera/card reader (presuming it doesn't have a built-in card reader)... yeah, those 4 could end up being used simultaneously just fine.

What about a USB blender to mix me some hard drinks every time a Reality TV show comes on?

Re:4 USB ports? (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888204)

Now I can use it as a docking station for my devices I set next to the TV. Nice. Plus if you are going to put one in, you might as well put four.. All the circuitry will be there.

Cool (1)

0123456 (636235) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887916)

Now even my TV can get infected with malware.

xmb (1)

bhcompy (1877290) | more than 3 years ago | (#33887936)

So much for XMB. Unless, of course, this is part of a plan of pushing out PSP phones running on Android.

Re:xmb (1)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888546)

I wonder how long until Sony will start to feel the cannibalistic effects (on PSP) of having Android able to support games... One can only hope for a revival of "entertainment value over 3D effects", Indie producers and so on. How fast would be Valve reacting? I'd be worried about Sony arresting their incarnation of Android... like keeping a very strong control of the App market their TV can access for a while, at least... (until enough competition will emerge... Samsung for instance won't be that fussy).

Re:xmb (1)

dangitman (862676) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888880)

I wonder how long until Sony will start to feel the cannibalistic effects (on PSP) of having Android able to support games...

I'm guessing an extremely long fucking time.

Sooo (1)

Themer (994454) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888072)

Is this going to include the new patent that allows me the consumer to PAY to skip commercials? Will Sony figure out a way to keep DVR's from skipping commercials so the GOOG gets its cut? If so this should be tagged DoNotWant!

Re:Sooo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33888188)

> If so this should be tagged DoNotWant!

See, that's because you can think. Thinking puts you in a tiny minority of consumers, so hate to break it to you, but you don't matter.

All that matters is what the sheeple can be sold. They will gladly buy their own cages; look at all the folks buying locked down cell phones.

Re:Sooo (1)

bhcompy (1877290) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888340)

We'll need AdBlock Plus and NoScript for our TVs

How long until Sony starts subtracting features? (2, Insightful)

wowbagger (69688) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888114)

And how long will it be until Sony decides to start removing features from this TV, because of alleged concerns about piracy, hacking, moping with intent to creep, or whatever other excuse they come up with?

"Sorry, we have removed the web browser's ability to visit any site with a vowel in the URL, because some people were visiting sites about how to use their TV to view unapproved content."

Sorry Sony, you burned me on my PS3, you shall not do so again.

Re:How long until Sony starts subtracting features (1)

chappel (1069900) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888298)

The PS3? The last straw for me was in 2000 (2001?) when I bought a wildly overpriced network walkman NW-MS9 "MP3" player that wouldn't play MP3s - http://reviews.cnet.com/mp3-players/sony-nw-ms9-network/1707-6490_7-6148779.html [cnet.com]

Awesome hardware completely crippled for the sake of ensuring no possible way to share a song with it.

Sony: just say no.

ch

Re:How long until Sony starts subtracting features (1)

dangitman (862676) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888906)

The last straw for me was in 2000 (2001?) when I bought a wildly overpriced network walkman NW-MS9 "MP3" player that wouldn't play MP3s

Why would you do that? Everybody knew those things were shitty. The PS3, on the other hand, is a decent product. With your track record, you probably shouldn't be giving product advice, or even trusting your own instincts.

Sony makes some great products and some incredibly shitty ones. Making blanket judgements based on brand alone, rather than the merits of individual products, is pretty unintelligent.

Re:How long until Sony starts subtracting features (1)

CronoCloud (590650) | more than 3 years ago | (#33889270)

You know, if you had done any research on the thing before buying it, you would have discovered that it played MP3's by having SonicStage convert them to ATRAC.

Re:How long until Sony starts subtracting features (1)

chappel (1069900) | more than 3 years ago | (#33889846)

Wow, guess I struck a nerve with the Sony Fanboys. Sure, I could research and find out if a particular Sony product does something underhanded and unexpected, and should have researched the walkman, but I had been really happy with my previous sony products, and had no reason to suspect that if the box SAID it was an MP3 player that they'd be lying. After the ensuing years of proprietary hardware, root-kits, and support for the RIAA, I don't care if they DO happen to puke out a decent product, I know part of the proceeds from it go to screwing people, and that just doesn't sit right with me, and I encourage others to spend their dollars more wisely whenever I get the chance.

Re:How long until Sony starts subtracting features (1)

CronoCloud (590650) | more than 3 years ago | (#33889310)

Did you even have Linux on your PS3? If even 1/10th of the people who complain about SCEfoo removing Linux support had actually used it, the YDL forums would have been far far more busy. Besides, if you want to keep Linux, you can, you're just shut out of PSN.

the problem with google tv: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33888156)

I already have a computer. #tuckermaxfail

This will fail... (1)

OverkillTASF (670675) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888212)

Between Sony's adopted mantra of "Do all evil possible" and Google's of "Do no evil", when they get together that must become "Do nothing".

Say goodbye to... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33888382)

Nielsen TV ratings.

Did the post-er have any idea what Google TV is? (1, Funny)

RapmasterT (787426) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888394)

I get the impression from the synopsis that the author doesn't know that Google TV and Sony Ineternet TV are the same thing? I'm not sure how Google TV is going to make Google TV obsolete, but it's sure a head scratcher.

that being said, this is a horrid idea that has been tried time and time again. Nobody wants an expensive all-in-one device when individual components are typically less expensive and give better results over time. This Sony TV will be fine, until the first Google TV software update that it can't support, then it's a TV with a dead component inside. Kind of like one of those people who have a dead fetus twin inside them their whole lives until they have a cyst removed that turns out to have hair and a face.

Is THAT what you want in your TV? Is it?

Zombie TVs (1)

Swaziboy (1457667) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888438)

Awesome, yet another device that unsuspecting consumers can get infected with viruses and make our botnet problem even worse. How long before you can buy your favorite flavor of AV product for your telly?

Better News (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33888542)

there's a lot of partnering going on in the TV world right now. what I'm most excited about is plex and LG. http://elan.plexapp.com/2010/09/02/plex-and-the-future-of-television/
plex is great on my mac already. I was going to get a mac mini to serve content to my tv but maybe I'll just wait. I'd also consider getting apple TV if plex worked on airplay.

I don't know about this ... (2, Insightful)

Boona (1795684) | more than 3 years ago | (#33888848)

Anybody else starting to be a little freaked out about how ubiquitous Google is becoming? I thought phones were cool, but this is starting to scare me. Especially considering the amount of data they collect on us.

When will a TV just Come With a built-in PC? (2, Funny)

El Fantasmo (1057616) | more than 3 years ago | (#33889120)

I'm just waiting for a TV to come with a fully functional, unrestricted and networkable PC built in that uses standard parts and interfaces and is linked to one of the TV inputs.

This is the answer to question nobody is asking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33889126)

The internet, and by 'internet' I mean the whole interactive social experience, is going (or has gone) mobile. What people want is another way to get TV stuff from the internet to their HD TVs for a better viewing experience, not more computer stuff on their TVs. Apple has it right. Besides, who wants tech that has a life cycle of, maybe, 6 months in a TV with a life cycle of (at least) 5 years?

What they meant to say... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33889372)

Sony said the OS will be updated in early 2011 to ...remove consumer friendly functionality.

Wonderful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33889578)

I can't wait till my TV gets compromised with a bot client or pop-ups.

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