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Digital Dashboard Device Detects Driver Drowsiness

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the string-between-ceiling-and-nostril dept.

Transportation 117

Pickens writes "Science Daily Headlines reports that researchers at the Fraunhofer Institute for Digital Media Technology have developed a self-contained, dashboard-mounted assistant system that tracks a driver's eye movements and issues a warning before the driver has an opportunity to nod off to sleep. 'What we have developed is a small modular system with its own hardware and programs on board, so that the line of vision is computed directly within the camera itself,' says Professor Husar. 'Since the Eyetracker is fitted with at least two cameras that record images stereoscopically — meaning in three dimensions — the system can easily identify the spatial position of the pupil and the line of vision.' The cameras, which can be installed in any model of car, evaluate up to 200 images per second to identify the line of vision. If the camera modules detect that the eye is closed for longer than a user-defined interval, it sounds an alarm. The Eyetracker also has applications in computer games where players could look around themselves without requiring a joystick to change their viewing direction, and in marketing and advertising, where researchers could determine which parts of a poster or advertising spot receive longer attention from their viewers."

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Dormant D Device Disturbed Drilling Dentist. (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33906566)

I think the title has only got Ds in it.

Re:Dormant D Device Disturbed Drilling Dentist. (0)

somersault (912633) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906700)

*facepalm* dear gods, Slashdot is finally turning into YouTube..

Re:Dormant D Device Disturbed Drilling Dentist. (4, Funny)

telchine (719345) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906750)

Do Dying Drivers Defy Death Deploying Drowsiness Device?

Re:Dormant D Device Disturbed Drilling Dentist. (1)

thijsh (910751) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906920)

You forgot to include some Dinosaurs in there, remember this is news for nerds!

Re:Dormant D Device Disturbed Drilling Dentist. (4, Funny)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906980)

Doubtful. Dreamy Driving Death Doesn't Dissuade Defiant Dickheads.

Damn.

Re:Dormant D Device Disturbed Drilling Dentist. (1)

aztracker1 (702135) | more than 3 years ago | (#33909394)

I know this thread is funny, but a matter of fact is for a while a couple years ago, the leading cause of car accidents in the Prescott, AZ area was heart attacks. Though it should be noted that there are a lot of retirees in that area.

Re:Dormant D Device Disturbed Drilling Dentist. (1)

davester666 (731373) | more than 3 years ago | (#33910314)

So, for the Prescott, AZ area, dealerships should install a driver-facing Tazer?

Re:Dormant D Device Disturbed Drilling Dentist. (1)

shadowfaxcrx (1736978) | more than 3 years ago | (#33909134)

Affirmative, Actually. An Active Alertness Alarm Almost Always Averts Accidents. Amazing!

Re:Dormant D Device Disturbed Drilling Dentist. (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 3 years ago | (#33908274)

Slashdot put some Ds on dat bitch!

Re:Dormant D Device Disturbed Drilling Dentist. (1)

Jesse_vd (821123) | more than 3 years ago | (#33908942)

I wish I had mod points for you

Re:Dormant D Device Disturbed Drilling Dentist. (1)

DittoBox (978894) | more than 3 years ago | (#33909024)

Dumb Dick Demonstrates Duplicitous Device, Detractors Decry Delays.

nice alliteration (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33906570)

does it also sell sea shells by the sea shore?

Re:nice alliteration (1)

Paua Fritter (448250) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906960)

probably prefers to pick a peck of pickled peppers

Re:nice alliteration (1)

Abstrackt (609015) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907494)

If she really wanted to make a killing on the sea shell market she shouldn't sell them right next to the spot people can pick them up for free. In that scenario, the only supporters of her business would be friends and family who don't have to heart to tell her how little chance there is for her to make a living on it. If anything, she should sell sea shells somewhere like New York, where the only crustaceans are on your plate.

Re:nice alliteration (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33909652)

If she really wanted to make a killing on the sea shell market she shouldn't sell them right next to the spot people can pick them up for free. In that scenario, the only supporters of her business would be friends and family who don't have to heart to tell her how little chance there is for her to make a living on it. If anything, she should sell sea shells somewhere like New York, where the only crustaceans are on your plate.

You're missing the point. She's so attractive, that people are willing to buy seashells from her at the seashore, just because she's selling them.

Re:nice alliteration (1)

Bantha Fodder (66573) | more than 3 years ago | (#33909162)

does it also sell sea shells by the sea shore?

I think this one Deals Dogfish, Dockside.

Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (1, Troll)

captainpanic (1173915) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906574)

I see no problems in making this mandatory in traffic a.s.a.p.
Worst case scenario is that a silly alarm goes off when the system makes a mistake. It has very few disadvantages... the price is probably the biggest problem. Best case scenario is that it saves the lives of a number of people, saves the relatives a lot of grief, saves the health system a lot of work, the taxpayers a lot of money, etc...

I'm a little sad to see that advertisers have already seen opportunities to use this to improve marketing tricks... but I guess every invention can be abused. And in this case, I think the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (4, Interesting)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906666)

I wonder if this thing will detect the eyes of a drunk driver as someone who is too sleepy?

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (1)

nomorecwrd (1193329) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907008)

I wonder if this thing will detect the eyes of a drunk driver as someone who is too sleepy?

Doesn't matter, neither of them should be driving. Even though sleepiness is not considered illegal.
Maybe after a few warnings in a row the system should turn the engine off and apply breaks... gently.
(mmm.. on a second thought, maybe reduce speed to a max of 5-10 mph... on a third... ok, maybe that's not a good idea while on the highway, but, isn't a slow drunk/sleepy driver preferred over a fast one? )

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (1)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907550)

Doesn't matter, neither of them should be driving.

I agree, which is why I wondered if it would give a drunk driver a warning. It could be just an extra reminder to someone that they shouldn't be driving. A giant fist coming out of their airbag is my first choice, but we all can't get what we want.

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (1)

TheRealGrogan (1660825) | more than 3 years ago | (#33910488)

I'm not having some fucking camera in my vehicle that's keeping track of my eyes. I would poke the camera's eye out and bypass it if necessary, if I bought a car and it had that fitted as a mandatory "feature".

The same with some mandatory intoxication detection device.

People don't even necessarily close their eyes when they first start going hypnagogic so this isn't even going to be all that effective.

It seems there are a lot of righteous, fearful people who think this is a good idea. Typical idiots who empower governments to make stupid laws such that you can't even have a drink or two anymore.

You all make your own beds. I used to blame governments for the state of things... now I blame the public for being so idiotic and letting their freedoms and control of their own lives be subverted.

You vote for these people. You defend and condone their actions in the name of safety and security for you and your family and your money. You are anything but safe or secure and the nanny state that you think is protecting you is the greatest of enemies.

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (2, Insightful)

chemicaldave (1776600) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906670)

I imagine trucks would be the first to try this out as they driver for longer periods, and it seems to be that they have more sleep-related accidents (at least I see more reports about them).

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (1)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907350)

    Bigger crashes make bigger news. If the driver of a tractor-trailer falls asleep at the wheel, that runaway truck can do significant damage. If the driver of a ford escort falls asleep at the wheel, he may cause some damage, but nothing comparable to the previous example.

    The media tends to pick up stories that involves the most blood, or the most dramatic scene. Here's an example. Several years ago, my sister was driving home, and the driver of an oncoming car fell asleep at the wheel and drifted into her lane. Both cars were absolutely totaled, and both drivers were hospitalized. By the car being totaled, I went to gather her belongings from the car. The left front wheel was under the drivers seat. I couldn't get my legs into the car between the dash and the seat. They both survived, but they were both banged up pretty well. There was no mention of it at all.

    Right around the same time, a tractor-trailer hauling fuel misjudged a turn, and rolled the truck over. It caught fire. He was fine and walked away from it. There were no other people involved. That was front page news for about a week. Oh the fire, oh the disaster. What can we do to make the roads safer? Are truckers allowed to drive too much? Should truckers have mandatory lower speed limits? blah, blah, blah. They hit it for all it was worth.

    Truckers actually have strict rules they work under, as far as the max allowable hours driven in a day. Not to say I haven't seen my share of sleep truckers (or at least non-attentive ones), but I've seen a lot more sleepy and non-attentive automobile drivers. I'd strongly suspect there are more uncaught DUI cases than sleepy drivers.

    Now, if you have a trucker that's been drinking and falls asleep behind the wheel, while hauling a trailer full of fuel, flips it, and it explodes, *THAT* would make the news. If he lands it on a bus full of nuns, or in a school yard, that'll make front page everywhere.

   

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (1)

cgenman (325138) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907740)

While I agree that truckers are by and large a far more responsible bunch than we give them credit for (and than they used to be), they also seem to be early adopters of new technologies. GPS, for example. If there were anywhere that would start with these, I could see truck driver employers mandating their usage by their drivers. That doesn't seem any more intrusive than some of the other things truckers put up with, especially if the technology actually works as advertised. If the technology matures, you might see GM installing friendly "wakeup calls" in the dash as a "service" to their drivers.

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (1)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907858)

    You know, I got one of those calls. Well, I'm not a trucker, but I had set myself up with a tracking system in my car. It fed two cameras, and kept my site updated with coordinates, speed, heading, altitude, and automatically moved my marker on Google Maps. Around 3am, I was tired, so I pulled over in a rest area in California, Arizona, or New Mexico (I'm not sure which, it all looks the same). I laid my seat back to take a nap. I was only out for about 1/2 hour, when I got a panicked call asking if I was ok.

    When I stopped, I just saw that it was a rest area. I parked in a fairly quiet corner, with my car facing away from the road. I didn't bother to look at the map to see what it was showing. As it turns out, if you looked at the cameras, all you could see was empty desert. If you looked at the map, I was several hundred feet off the road, heading South, and not moving.

    Back to the topic, I wonder how the eye tracking would perform when checking blind spots or backing up. You may not even be facing forward, so it can't check you all the time. And as I was taught, you can't only trust the mirrors, turn your head to check blind spots. So negative reinforcement (the wakeup alarm) would be a very bad thing, reinforcing bad habits in drivers.

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 3 years ago | (#33908982)

While I agree that truckers are by and large a far more responsible bunch than we give them credit for (and than they used to be)

I've been driving since 1968, and in my experience that's simply not true, at least in the US. Truckers use to drive VERY safely. The ones on the highways now drive like maniacs by comparison. They tailgate, pull out in front of you, speed, you name some bad driving practice and they'll do it.

It didn't use to be like that.

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906718)

As someone else wisely pointed out, if you're tired you're still far more likely to have an accident even if you don't fall asleep. If you really want to save relatives grief and the health system a lot of work, etc, you take a break.

The Eyetracker also has applications in computer games where players could look around themselves without requiring a joystick to change their viewing direction

The only possible use for that is when you have VR goggles. It would be pointless with a TV, as every time you try to look at something, it would move out of the way..

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (3, Insightful)

telchine (719345) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906736)

I see no problems in making this mandatory in traffic a.s.a.p.

Drivers will oppose it. That's the main problem.

Drivers usually know when they're tired, but they tend to drive anyway. They don't need some electronics to tell them this.

They drive because they're impatient and not driving would be an inconvenience to them. It's not so much they don't care that they'll be involved in an accident, it's just that they don't think it'll happen to them.

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (1)

mapkinase (958129) | more than 3 years ago | (#33908776)

That's why GP suggested "mandatory". Since when drivers were asked about any safety features?

I do not remember being asked what I think about seat belts. It is slapped on me, though not me wearing seat belt very hardly affects anybody but me.

That is what "mandatory" means. It means we will do it regardless whether you wanted or not. If drivers embrace the feature there is no need to make it mandatory, they will be asking for a feature themselves.

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (1)

H0p313ss (811249) | more than 3 years ago | (#33909458)

I do not remember being asked what I think about seat belts. It is slapped on me, though not me wearing seat belt very hardly affects anybody but me.

I guess you're too young to remember when seat belts were considered as controversial and radical as gay marriage, global warming and alternative power are now.

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (1)

mapkinase (958129) | more than 3 years ago | (#33909946)

The difference between subjects being

seabelt (concerns 1 person), gay marriage (2, if you are atheist, millions, if you are religious), global warming (potentially 6B), and alternative power (potentially 6B).

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 3 years ago | (#33909042)

Drivers usually know when they're tired, but they tend to drive anyway. They don't need some electronics to tell them this.

Read TFS again. It sounds an alarm when your eyes are closed for more than a blink. I'd welcome this, as any sane person should. I'm not so sure I'd want it mandatory, but I know I would like one.

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (2, Insightful)

tftp (111690) | more than 3 years ago | (#33910714)

It sounds an alarm when your eyes are closed for more than a blink. I'd welcome this, as any sane person should.

There are several problems here.

The first problem is that tired people are not necessarily closing their eyes. What happens is that they drift away in their thoughts and lose concentration; they keep looking but stop seeing. A camera like that can't help here. An EEG helmet might be more effective but totally impractical.

The second problem is that in southern states (CA to FL) you must use dark sunglasses from 6am to 8pm during summer (and a bit less during winter) simply because there is too much of sunlight here. How is the camera going to see through the dark lenses of those glasses, and reject reflections at the same time? And at night, with glasses or without, it's too dark for the camera to see the driver's eyes anyway.

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33909574)

Worst part is that typically they are right. This helps everyone build up a mental model of being safe drivers, when in the long run it is just a matter of time before that accident happens

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (1)

Nonillion (266505) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906778)

sarcasm=1
Why not go one step further and make ignition interlocks mandatory as standard equipment. GM and Toyota are working on this as we speak. It's all about safety, right?
sarcasm=0

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (1)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907598)

[standing on his sarcasm box]

    I propose that we all can tag vehicles for being stupid. If enough people flag them as being stupid drivers, they are removed from the road. There's no in-car interlock that seems to work well enough to keep stupid people from driving.

[stepping away from his sarcasm box]

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (2, Insightful)

MatthewCCNA (1405885) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906956)

If you could prove a statistically significant savings of life I'd have no objections, however, I'm tired of the recent string of laws designed to roads safer but only serve to make it look like politicians are doing something positive. Forcing a law through that could potentiality save 100s of lives but inconveniences all driver is a mistake if the 100s of lives amount to less than 0.0001% of the people driving.

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 3 years ago | (#33910290)

Forcing a law through that could potentiality save 100s of lives but inconveniences all driver is a mistake

I would normally tend to agree with you; I've worn seat belts since long before they were mandatory (not wearing on almost killed me), but I was and am against mandating them, at least for adults. Your not wearing a seat belt isn't going to harm me. But this is a completely different animal. If you fall asleep at the wheel you're liable to hit me head on. How would this device in any way inconvinience you? The system is completely passive and only goes off if your eyes close for a predetermined period of time. It's no different than having a passenger yell "Hey! Wake up! Look out!"

I just don't see your argument.

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (2, Insightful)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907086)

Nope.

However for your good faith effort I will reply rather than mark you troll.

"Let's make it mandatory! Then every infraction will be posted to the police, and the media, and maintained on a public page. Captain Panic, who was pulled over on suspicion of driving tired, pleaded not guilty, saying that he was just trying to figure out more information about the grooved pavement in front of him."

"Pshaw! Likely story!"

"Captain Panic's employer has been contacted and his hours have been cut since, as he cannot drive properly rested, he must be working too hard."

No, surveillance measures are all to easily abused in this Orwellian Age.

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (1)

captainpanic (1173915) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907498)

Nope.

However for your good faith effort I will reply rather than mark you troll.

"Let's make it mandatory! Then every infraction will be posted to the police, and the media, and maintained on a public page. Captain Panic, who was pulled over on suspicion of driving tired, pleaded not guilty, saying that he was just trying to figure out more information about the grooved pavement in front of him."

"Pshaw! Likely story!"

"Captain Panic's employer has been contacted and his hours have been cut since, as he cannot drive properly rested, he must be working too hard."

No, surveillance measures are all to easily abused in this Orwellian Age.

But there are GPS systems that will beep if it detects you break the speed limit. Nobody seems to oppose those systems?
Safety features are a unique sales point - the first seatbelts were not enforced by law, but were instead invented by the Volvo car company.
In fact, cars are full of automated warning lights, beeps, and safeguards (oil temperature, tire pressure, rev limiters, sensors detecting which seats are used and whether the person wears the seatbelt, rain sensors, light sensors, etc, etc)... what's the matter with one more - one which does not change the driving experience in any way, unless you doze off?

As far as I understood, this thing will not communicate to the police. It will not shut down your car. It will not force you to stop. It will just give an alarm to keep you awake. It leaves all further responsibility with the driver... Please explain why drivers would oppose this?
If any device in cars would be a danger to us, in this Orwellian Age, if would be the GPS. that already has a built in communication system. It can detect your speed (which you will break more often than the tiredness thingy - and also, there is no law against tired driving as it is very subjective).

Mark me as troll btw? Why? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet) [wikipedia.org]
I think I was on topic, and we just disagree.

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (1)

BJ_Covert_Action (1499847) | more than 3 years ago | (#33908938)

But there are GPS systems that will beep if it detects you break the speed limit. Nobody seems to oppose those systems?

*raises hand* ... I do. The ability to have my movements and speed monitored are the primary reason I never have, and never will have, GPS implanted in my car. For that matter, I also turn the GPS radios off in my cell phones unless I am going on a hike alone or something similar.

Re:Perfect for traffic - let's make it mandatory? (1)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | more than 3 years ago | (#33909646)

Fair answer, hence why I held off on downmodding.
(Though if I were to accuse, you're right I should be thinking flamebait, not troll.) But I'm not because I read your post twice and it's in good faith.

Unfortunately Super-Surveillance is all the rage right now. You're perfectly right that this tired-sensor does not *yet* talk to the police... but I fear it's "when-not-if" in these matters. Sadly, this has led me to look for the abusability of anything these days.

If you want to amp this up to "official notify" level you're welcome to email me and then if I match both halves I'll drop you a note.

no allitteration tag? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33906578)

how often do you get to tag a story w/a literary term on /.?

Submitter to be commended (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33906596)

I'd like to commend the submitter for bringing headlines to new levels of alliterative prowess.

In before... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33906618)

Soviet russia jokes

from stuff that doesn't matter, to 100% irrelevant (-1, Troll)

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Re:from stuff that doesn't matter, to 100% irrelev (1)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906678)

I think you got the 100% irrelevant spot on.

we're also 'spot on' about the starving babies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33907294)

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Trouble ahead ... (5, Insightful)

JasterBobaMereel (1102861) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906638)

So rather than 10 crashes because people fell asleep...

We have 20 crashes because rather than stopping for a coffee and a rest people relied on this and crashed when the alarm went off ...

If you are driving tired you are an accident waiting to happen .. falling asleep is just the worst case

Re:Trouble ahead ... (2, Insightful)

nunojsilva (1019800) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906688)

And I wonder what if the system detects it correctly, issues an alarm, but the driver doesn't wake up with the alarm? Maybe the environment is already noisy (for sound alarms), has lots of lights (light alarms) or the car is shaking a lot (vibration alarms). Or maybe the person is so tired that the alarm doesn't work at all.

I think someone should just not drive when tired. If a person is aware that may fall into sleep at any moment, then maybe it's just stupid to drive anything.

Re:Trouble ahead ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33906714)

So rather than 10 crashes because people fell asleep...

We have 20 crashes because rather than stopping for a coffee and a rest people relied on this and crashed when the alarm went off ...

If you are driving tired you are an accident waiting to happen .. falling asleep is just the worst case

The guard rails and rumble strips are a loud enough alarm for me! Of course, when the people outside the car start screaming, it's too late.

Re:Trouble ahead ... (3, Insightful)

Zakabog (603757) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906726)

So rather than 10 crashes because people fell asleep...

We have 20 crashes because rather than stopping for a coffee and a rest people relied on this and crashed when the alarm went off ...

If you are driving tired you are an accident waiting to happen .. falling asleep is just the worst case

I imagine the opposite, where the alarm sounds off and the driver goes and takes a rest rather than continuing driving. Or in a scenario with passengers, one of the passengers say 'Hey you're falling asleep let me drive/take a rest.' It'd be harder for the driver to say 'I'm fine to drive' when there's an alarm like this going off ever few minutes.

Re:Trouble ahead ... (3, Insightful)

Gadget_Guy (627405) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906732)

So rather than 10 crashes because people fell asleep...
We have 20 crashes because rather than stopping for a coffee and a rest people relied on this and crashed when the alarm went off

I really don't think that people are so stupid that they will think that they are not tired because a car alarm hasn't gone off. Do you also think that people won't use brakes because they can stop by driving into a wall and have the airbags protect them?

If the car starts beeping to wake you up then you have long gone past the time that you should have stopped for a rest. While you might not actually close your eyes, extreme tiredness slows the reflexes to the same level as driving while intoxicated.

Re:Trouble ahead ... (4, Insightful)

RMH101 (636144) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906858)

The problem here is that tiredness is something that a) creeps up on you, and b) impairs your ability to make judgements, including "am I too tired to drive?".
I doubt there's anyone here who's been driving for a while who hasn't ended up driving at least once when they've become very tired, and it's taken a shock to make them realise how tired they actually were.

Re:Trouble ahead ... (1)

Gadget_Guy (627405) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906976)

Well, yes. Which makes this alarm a good thing.

The grandparent was claiming that it would increase the number of crashes by having this alarm. As you say, being tired can impair your judgement about whether you are tired. But that will not change whether you have an alarm fitted or not. If you are too tired to know you are tired, then you won't be consciously thinking that you can rely on the alarm.

The alarm going off could be the necessary shock to which you referred to get the driver to pull over. So the number of crashes will go down.

Re:Trouble ahead ... (1)

RMH101 (636144) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907042)

I agree completely. Can't hurt, might help, let's have them.

Re:Trouble ahead ... (1)

Abstrackt (609015) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907664)

I really don't think that people are so stupid that they will think that they are not tired because a car alarm hasn't gone off. Do you also think that people won't use brakes because they can stop by driving into a wall and have the airbags protect them?

If the car starts beeping to wake you up then you have long gone past the time that you should have stopped for a rest. While you might not actually close your eyes, extreme tiredness slows the reflexes to the same level as driving while intoxicated.

Most drivers feel they're above average (BBC article [bbc.co.uk] ). While I don't think all people are as stupid as you describe, I have enough experience to believe that some are and those are the ones that worry me.

I ended up behind a car with no brake lights one day so I gave him plenty of extra room to compensate. Another car ended up between us and rear-ended him at a red light. My theory is that they were waiting for the back of the car in front of them to light up before hitting the brakes.

If you give someone who thinks they're able to operate at full capacity all the time an alarm that alerts them to take a rest odds are they probably won't listen anyway.

Re:Trouble ahead ... (1)

Gadget_Guy (627405) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907786)

But do you believe that this safety feature would harm more lives than it saves? The number of people who doze off at the wheel will always be larger than the number of exceptionally stupid people who doze off at the wheel. And even then, a proportion of those stupid people will still be saved by this facility.

It makes more sense to have the feature than to toss it out because a very small minority of people will abuse it.

Have you seen that god awful mercedes commercial? (1)

PPalmgren (1009823) | more than 3 years ago | (#33908218)

People are like that. That Mercedes commercial royally ticks me off, with quotes like "I didn't realize I was drifting into the other lane" and "I didn't realize the car in front of me had stopped." Why the fuck are you driving then?! Yes, its a commercial, but there are really people like this on the road. The world revolves around them and they are not paying attention to what they are supposed to be doing, or their surroundings, or their state of mind. I would not doubt for a minute that these people would rely entirely on the technology to tell them something they should already know, and drive in a dangerous condition prior to the alarm going off.

Re:Trouble ahead ... (1)

cusco (717999) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907324)

I've found that for long, boring drives such as Seattle to Bellingham a few coca leaves in the cheek work really well to maintain alertness. The last time I asked at the airport you were still allowed to bring less than a pound back from Peru.

Pretty neat, however.. (2, Funny)

Combatso (1793216) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906646)

What if you, like me, drive while wearing these: http://rosem.aloak.ca/acatalog/250315.jpg [aloak.ca]

Re:Pretty neat, however.. (1)

Combatso (1793216) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906662)

or for that matter, with dark sunglasses, like 90% of the people who drive while the sun is out

Re:Pretty neat, however.. (2, Funny)

need4mospd (1146215) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906996)

And I wear my sunglasses at night too.

Corey

Re:Pretty neat, however.. (1)

Combatso (1793216) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907980)

yikes... don't mess around with this guy

Re:Pretty neat, however.. (1)

cryoman23 (1646557) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906702)

for a silent ride home while drving while asleep :)

Title... (0, Redundant)

alphax45 (675119) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906664)

Needs more words that start with "D"

Re:Title... (1)

thijsh (910751) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906712)

They figured everybody loves Double D's, so they said: "Fuck everything we're doing six D's" [theonion.com] .

Re:Title... (1)

alphax45 (675119) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906810)

LOL! Love it :)

Re:Title... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33906852)

"researchers could determine which parts of a poster or advertising spot receive longer attention from their viewers"

speaking of double-D's, I'm sure the porn industry will be all over this.

Great stuff (2, Insightful)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906668)

I'll be able to keep going now when I'm driving late and tired instead of pulling in at a rest stop, knowing that the car will wake me. Technology has done so much for drivers, with ABS we don't need to slow down in snow and ice, air bags mean we don't need to bother with seat belts and cruise control means you don't need to look at the speedo.

Re:Great stuff (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33906970)

Unfortunately i seem to be the only one who read 'Hornyness detector' so I'm not very hyped yet.

Re:Great stuff (1)

Rude Turnip (49495) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907028)

There's a joke somewhere in there about cruising and looking at speedos, but I'm too tired to make it.

Re:Great stuff (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33907224)

Man, i had such a clever comment written for you, but i accidentally pressed "cancel", when my H2 slashdoted couple of damn cyclists.
Anyhow, back on the topic. Cruisecontrol sure is blessing. Now i can set speed to max and not worry about it, in the old day i had to rely on topler effect from horns of those driving in opposite directions, to make sure i'm going fast enough. It's not, that i don't know how to read speedometer, i'm just slow reader, and if i have to break my consentration, then i would have to start newspaper articles over again.
Once i also tried to read the books, but din't like it.

Awesome title (3, Funny)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906674)

++ Definitely Diminishing Distinct Danger

Alliteration (1)

captain_dope_pants (842414) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906716)

Is the Register's headline writer now working for slashdot ?

Who cares about the article's content... (3, Informative)

elsurexiste (1758620) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906754)

Who cares about the article's content, when the title was written with 6 words that start with "D". It could have been better, though: "Digital Dashboard Device Diligently Detects Driver Drowsiness".

Re:Who cares about the article's content... (3, Funny)

Soulskill (1459) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906862)

Don't disregard delving deeply despite distracting descriptors.

Re:Who cares about the article's content... (1)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907796)

Duuuude...

Re:Who cares about the article's content... (1)

Dersaidin (954402) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907516)

But the current title is cool because it does it without adding overly superfluous words.

Great for congestion (2, Funny)

Gandalf1957 (671089) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906816)

Because every day the sun shines there'll be thousands of cars at the side of the road with their sunglasses-wearing drivers taking a nap :-)

Lexus (1)

nawitus (1621237) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906820)

This is already in some Lexus models. Years ago..

Re:Lexus (2, Insightful)

Combatso (1793216) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906896)

Yes, but this is a stand-alone device anyone can slap on their dash... like when the GPS came out of the dash and became stand-alone... So I don't need to buy a brand new lexus to get the technology.. I can spend a few hundy and have it annoy me in my Jeep..

tongue tied (0, Offtopic)

auximage77 (1544557) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906884)

Rubber baby buggy bumper!

Application in games (1)

fgouget (925644) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906910)

The Eyetracker also has applications in computer games where players could look around themselves without requiring a joystick to change their viewing direction

Hum, if I look to my left all I see is the wall. So will this system also move the computer screen / tv around so I see what it is trying to show me in game?

Head movement (3, Interesting)

Laser Dan (707106) | more than 3 years ago | (#33906944)

I wonder how well it copes with head movement.

TFA shows very zoomed in images of eyes and two large cameras, but they say the system is "half the size of a matchbox". If each camera plus processor is really so small, that's a pretty good system. And they say it can do it at 200 FPS? Thats a lot of image processing.

I suspect they locate the eyes in a low resolution image first then just process the eye regions at 200 Hz, keeping them centred to account for head movement. Otherwise it would be impossible in the matchbox size with current DSPs.
Anyone have more details?

Nice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33906946)

Its' about time people started looking into how to make our roads safer, and keeping tired motorists awake is one good way of doing it. Not everyone has the time or inclination to take a break every once in a while. Perhaps these could be sold separate in places like DubLi to ensure that any Joe could buy one without having to buy a new car?

Way to Improve Device and Headline (1)

srussia (884021) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907004)

Digital Dashboard Device Detects Driver Drowsiness, Delivers Desoxyn

Multiple possible applications (1)

Drakkenmensch (1255800) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907044)

"Hey! Stop staring at your passenger's breasts and look at the road!"

Disturbing Nightmare (1)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907072)

I was driving along and all of a sudden I woke up to a really annoying sound WHILE crashing in to a tree.

I prefer not to have loud alarms going off while I am trying to get much-needed rest!

Use in computers? (1)

Beroya (1916732) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907188)

I'd like to see this adapted to work as a pointer interface. Screw drowsy drivers, Nerds everywhere can make better use of this tech.

Cue old joke (1)

goose-incarnated (1145029) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907252)

I'd rather die quietly in my sleep, like my grandfather, than screaming in fear, like the people in his car

Crashy (1)

Migraineman (632203) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907396)

*bing* *bong*

It looks like you are about to crash. Would you like me to:

- Engage Google Autodrive?

- Pre-load 911 into the OnStar system?

- Locate your nearest next of kin on the GPS system?

A slight flaw (2, Insightful)

shish (588640) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907476)

The Eyetracker also has applications in computer games where players could look around themselves without requiring a joystick to change their viewing direction

1) Player wants to move the in game camera left 45 degrees
2) Player moves eyes left 45 degrees
3) The camera moves successfully, but the player doesn't see that because their eyes were pointing at their desk lamp to the side of the monitor
4) Not profit!

And in version two... (1)

Minwee (522556) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907564)

...the drowsiness data will be fed directly to your insurance company, so that they can deny any claims that you make and raise your rates because of your "dangerous driving habits".

Isn't progress grand?

Game applications. (2, Funny)

the_saint1138 (1353335) | more than 3 years ago | (#33907776)

I for one am looking forward to this. Time Crisis 2015: (Please look away from screen to reload)

This is not news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33907910)

How is this news? Seeing Machines [seeingmachines.com] has been doing this for 10 years. Stereo cameras, or single camera, and an API for DIY projects. Oh, and stereo calibration issues make this impossible in an automotive application due to vibration and calibration issues. Where do those cameras go on the dash? The big IR emitter? Hmmm... Detecting Drowsiness eh? Yawn... Full disclosure, I do work for the aforementioned company, but I've been in this area for more than ten years.

Great technology (1)

ben-acheson-uk (1922370) | more than 3 years ago | (#33908590)

This is great - it would also be ideal for, diabetes, heart conditions and other problems that could lead to loss of consciousness. Potentially it could also note the location of the user by GPS or mobile mast triangulation. That information could then be reported to their doctor, family, and local emergency services over the internet. Add a web portal, and there are all sorts of additional possibilities.

Wearing glasses (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33909346)

Guys. Stop worrying about the resolution of the device or ability to track head movements.
Most people wear some kind of glasses when driving. Sun glasses will render this device completely useless.
Damn nerds.

Substandard performance. (2, Funny)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#33910388)

I give it a D.

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