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2012 Mayan Calendar 'Doomsday' Date Might Be Wrong

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the 60-day-reprieve dept.

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astroengine writes "A UC Santa Barbara associate professor is disputing the accuracy of the mesoamerican 'Long Count' calendar after highlighting several astronomical flaws in a correlation factor used to synchronize the ancient Mayan calendar with our modern Gregorian calendar. If proven to be correct, Gerardo Aldana may have nudged the infamous December 21, 2012 'End of the World' date out by at least 60 days. Unfortunately, even if the apocalypse is rescheduled, doomsday theorists will unlikely take note."

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Worse (1)

eyenot (102141) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949318)

There was news about this the year before last year. And according to somebody /else/, the estimated EOW date was off by over 4,000 years.

Re:Worse (2, Interesting)

Kalidor (94097) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949380)

Indeed, no one seems to be able to calculate this. When they first tried it came to sometime in 2013. Then it got moved to 2012 for about 15 years. Then for five it was 2013 again; but no one seemed to pay attention to that five years. Then as you said, they recalculated and found it to be off by 4,000.

I strongly get the feeling that the people who work on this to make these publication tend to ignore most of the work before them and just fail to do any sanity checks with any developments on the subject since the late eighties...

Re:Worse (1)

Kryptonian Jor-El (970056) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949548)

Well, it being off by 4000 years is because of a totally different calculation, right? Wasn't there an article before saying that the whole shebang occurs at the end of 13 solar cycles, which people are claiming its only the end of the 12th. Kind of like how we started numbering at year 1, and not 0, they started numbering at solar cycle 1

Re:Worse (1)

Aquina (1923974) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950780)

The ultimate answer is: IT'S ALL CRAP!

Re:Worse (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950558)

What I don't understand is, the mayan numerical system is positional (it has the equivalent of a zero); how could their calendar have an end date? Were they still alive today, they could have just added another position.

Re:Worse (4, Informative)

thehostiles (1659283) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950640)

actually, they have a circular calendar. Just that most people don't quite get the concept that once it reaches their "last" date, it just goes back to the first date and keeps going.

And the people who do get it are riddled with nutjobs that believe that a new age is upon us or something like that.

I could care less unless the heiroglyphics depict fire reaining down upon the world... they don't do they?

Re:Worse (1)

peragrin (659227) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950660)

I always refer to it as the Mayan Y5K problem.

their computers(real people) couldn't calculate beyond a certain point so that became the final end date. Just like Y2K. lazy programmers cause the world to burn.

So then (5, Funny)

acrobg (1175095) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949332)

The apocalypse that won't happen Dec. 21, 2012 is now expected to not happen on Feb. 19, 2013...got it.

Re:So then (1)

PDX (412820) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949888)

The actual transit through the center point of the galactic elliptic will take at least a decade. With plenty of fan fair even something ridiculous can seem plausible for a brief time. Until you actually look under the hood.

Re:So then (5, Funny)

The Wooden Badger (540258) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950038)

Actually it is a year earlier than previously thought. December 12, 2011 is when my daughter can get her driver's license.

Re:So then (1)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 3 years ago | (#33951134)

Actually it is a year earlier than previously thought. December 12, 2011 is when my daughter can get her driver's license.

Is your daughter's name 'Sarah Connor' by any chance? Because if it is, I have a preprogrammed Austrian robot to send her for her birthday which may help us avoid or delay the Apocalypse. It speaks in a weird accent, but it IS a robot.

Peak Oil Day (1)

advid.net (595837) | more than 3 years ago | (#33952820)

About driving a car, doomsday, and any date circa 2012 : one should mention the Peak Oil

(even if instead of a sudden apocalyptic vision we have a decades long agony of energy shortage)

Re:So then (1)

Trent Hawkins (1093109) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950536)

it won't happen on the thirteenth hour or of the thirteenth day of the thirteenth month of the thirteenth year.

It's all for the best, who wants doomsday during that terrible Smarch weather anyway?

Re:So then (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33950822)

... but before that date, they will postpone it again and again until it finally happens in 2020.

It probably said... (3, Funny)

geogob (569250) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949356)

Jan. 1, 2000, 00:00 GMT

Re:It probably said... (1)

JoshuaZ (1134087) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949828)

This was actually a claim that was circulating in some circles in the lead up to that date. See for example "01-01-00: The Novel of the Millennium" by R.J. Pineiro. Actually don't read it. It is stupid, awful and boring and makes Dan Brown seem smart, educated, and coherent. But the idea in question is used as a very major aspect of that novel.

Re:It probably said... (1)

animeking503 (1370637) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950024)

I was sitting in my bunker with the cans of Spam and Twinkies ready for when humanity would be destroyed!

Math error plus translation problem (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33949364)

December 21, 2012 is actually the Mayan "Year of the Linux Desktop."

So enjoy your couple of months on top.

Re:Math error plus translation problem (1)

sloomis (1326535) | more than 3 years ago | (#33951224)

Close, it is actually the relese date of Duke Nukem Forever.

Plans Ruined (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33949366)

Dang I already had things planned

How Does (0, Flamebait)

Codename Dutchess (1782238) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949372)

How does an ancient calendar have anything to do with nerds? Shouldn't we be focusing on the future here? And I would surely hope that nobody here actually believes that because some high-on Mayans say we're going to die on a certain date, that its actually true. Save that shit for the religious jackoffs.

Actually they didn't (5, Informative)

Moraelin (679338) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949606)

Actually they didn't. There is _no_ mayan prophecy for the end of the Baktun. None whatsoever. On the contrary, on their monuments you find dates up to trillions of year into the future. Dunno what was supposed to happen then, but it would make no sense to prophecise it if the world is supposed to end now.

_All_ that happens in 2012 (ok, 2013) is the end of a baktun.

Let's start from the start. The Mayans didn't count in base 10, but in base 20, presumably because they could count on their toes too. (No, really, look at their digits.) Thank goodness they didn't come up with a male-only maths, eh?

So they started with a year based on 260 day years, the so called Tzolkin calendar. If now you went "wait, that can't be right, it would skip through the actual year like crazy", congrats, you'd be smarter than the Mayans.

Then came the Long Count calendar, which was 360 days long, or 18 months of 20 days each. (Told you they were big on 20.) This is actually the calendar used in the 2012 (non)prophecy.

Yes, that's right. Those poor idiots are actually trusting a civilization to tell them about galactic alignments... who isn't even advanced enough to figure out the length of the year. Nor had the smarts to reset it to some equinoxe or such each year, like the lunisolar calendars used around here by even the most primitive ancient cultures. Yeah, that's the guy to trust with galactic calculations, right? ;)

To make it more stupid, even the Mayans eventually got a better calendar than that, the Haab calendar. Which finally padded the year to 365 days long, putting them finally on par with what the Egyptians had had, oh, only a couple of millennia before them. But anyway, a doomsday calculation based on the Long Count is already based on a calendar which is obsolete and crap even by Mayan standards.

So, anyway, a Long Count year was 18 months of 20 days each.

From there it went kinda like for us with decades, centuries and milenia, except in base 20.

So for us a decade is 10 years, for them a katun is 20 years.

For us a century is 10x10 years, for them a baktun is 20x20 years.

For us a millennium is 10x10x10 years, for them a piktun is 20x20x20 years.

All that happens in 2012 or 2013 is the end of a baktun. Yes, it's not even millennialism. The piktun (base-20 millenium) won't end for another 4000 years or so.

That scare isn't even like Y2K, it's more like being scared of the rollover from 699 AD to 700 AD. I mean, WTF, it's not even running out of digits or anything.

And again that's _all_ there is to it, because there is no actual Mayan prophecy for that date.

But I guess that won't stop the doomsday idiots from waiting for their Rapture on that day. What else is new?

Re:Actually they didn't (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33949800)

So the real end of the universe is 2013 .... thats katun , A holy number in Mayan and 13, a cursed number in Judaeo-Christian citcles (12 apostles + 1 Jebus)
SOunds pretty apocalyptic in my book .. that will be the day they run out of internet space AND THE WHOLE INTERNET PIPES DIE!

Re:Actually they didn't (3, Insightful)

ArcherB (796902) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949966)

Add to that the fact that they couldn't predict the Spanish coming over and ending their world.

Re:Actually they didn't (3, Informative)

cusco (717999) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950614)

Their civilization was already long over before the Spanish arrived.

Re:Actually they didn't (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33952326)

How could they have predicted it? Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!

Re:Actually they didn't (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33951078)

"...presumably because they could count on their toes too. (No, really, look at their digits.) Thank goodness they didn't come up with a male-only maths, eh?"

Insert obligatory "Carry The One" math joke...

Re:Actually they didn't (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33951262)

A small correction, they did know a year have 365 days, the 360 days calendar actually had 365 days: 18 months of 20 days each + 5 days that didn't belong to any month. Those 5 days were at the end of the year and were considered "doomed" so no one would leave their homes those days.

Re:Actually they didn't (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33951516)

What else is new?

That the world actually ends in 2011 first: http://www.familyradio.com/ [familyradio.com]

Re:Actually they didn't (5, Informative)

gaiageek (1070870) | more than 3 years ago | (#33951748)

I'm not a 2012 doomsday believer nor have I read a single book on Mayan calendars, but I do remember learning in intro astronomy that the Mayans made incredibly accurate astronomical observations and predications, including of solar eclipses well in the future. I find it pretty hard to believe that they could do this (I'd love to see anyone here predict an eclipse without using a computer), yet be unaware of the cycle which we call the solar year. From some brief research online it seems that in Mayan culture, Venus had more significance than the sun, and the 260-day period you mentioned was tied to the gestation period of women. Point being, it seems misguided to suggest that they were idiots (as you more or less do) when the Mayans were quite aware of what was happening in the skies, and when considering the fact that they must have choose the cycles they did based upon what was important within their culture.

Re:Actually they didn't (1)

BobMcD (601576) | more than 3 years ago | (#33952106)

Some quick points:

1) Everything, everything, EVERYTHING we know about their culture is derived from a mere handful of parchments that sympathetic Spaniards managed to save from being burned. You cannot possibly substantiate "none whatsoever" because we have only a minute sliver of their knowledge to go on. That would be like looking at the summary of an article alone and declaring oneself a PhD in the matter. It happens, but isn't exactly sound reasoning.

2) There's little to no reason to believe that the calendar wouldn't end on the solstice. Nothing in the article seems to illustrate WHY they would suddenly dispose of any regard for astronomy with the end of this one single calendar.

3) Assuming there ARE idiots waiting for Rapture on that day. Why the hell do you care? You seem rather worked up over what would be, if you're correct, basically nothing. So what's the deal? Whatever it is, why not save us all some time and simply argue THAT instead?

Re:Actually they didn't (1)

vintagepc (1388833) | more than 3 years ago | (#33952376)

That would be like looking at the summary of an article alone and declaring oneself a PhD in the matter.

You must be new here... (yes, I saw your 6-digit UID). Well targeted analogy, good sir.

This is something that ticks me off every time I see it- any documentary tends to infer that ancient peoples were stupid/less intelligent then us ("oh wow, look how they made x using only y primitive tools!") Everyone needs to realize that there is no fixed measure of intelligence, and that it is relative - these ancient groups were incredibly smart - as pointed out, the mayans with their astrological knowledge, and the middle east in the development of various mathematical things)...

That said, I don't think we need to worry about some external force bringing about the end of the world... humanity just needs to look in a mirror to see the cause.

Re:Actually they didn't (1)

Moraelin (679338) | more than 3 years ago | (#33952870)

Actually, there is.

1. Basically it has no reason to. They counted base 20, and everything else about their number system is base 20. Assuming that only for this one it would have a special rule that the digit can't go above 13 is stupid. It's like saying that for Christians the century digit can't go above 7. Why?

2. And at any rate, the burden of proof is on those who claim that such a rule exists, not on those who don't. "[i]There's little to no reason to believe that the calendar wouldn't end on the solstice.[/i]" is exactly back-ass-wards. Not having any evidence of such a prophecy is not a reason to default to assuming that not only one exists, but also what it is about.

Basically, you also don't have any reason to not believe that there's a miniature giant space hamster ruling the world, but presumably you wouldn't take it as the default assumption until proven wrong.

3. Look at the digit we currently have there 13. Including zero, that would mean that their centuries digit goes in cycles of 14, which is nonsense for that culture. The numbers 13 and 20 were sacred numbers. The number 14 wasn't.

Aand again, anyone claiming to know of such a rule of 14, has the burden of proof to support it.

4. Actually I've left the best reason for last, although I already mentioned it. There are dates on some of those monuments with about a dozen digits for the year. Get that? They're not running out of digits. Whatever date there might be when the long count runs out of digits, it's by _far_ not at baktun or piktun.

That already isn't even a case of Occam's Razor or most reasonable assumption. It's a case of already _knowing_ that their calendar doesn't run out of digits now. Because we've already seen dates of theirs with more digits.

5. Actually, it's not as much the Rapture that annoys me, as the whole counterfactual bullshit surrounding this Mayan date. The whole fabricating a bullshit prophecy based on _not_ knowing that there isn't one, basically. Yes, I'm somewhat worked up. Because such a display of stupidity and believing unsupported bullshit just because of wanting to believe some bullshit, is already disheartening.

Re:Actually they didn't (1)

Grapplebeam (1892878) | more than 3 years ago | (#33952226)

Hey man, it's cool. If the rapture DOES happen, the Christians are stuck here with us. No where in the Bible does it say they get a free ticket out of the apocalypse. In fact, I dare to say that most of them think they get a "get out of hell on earth free card" because of the Simpsons episode.

Re:Actually they didn't (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33952942)

You're under the mistaken impression the Earth has always required 365.25 days to rotate the Sun.

We all know when it is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33949388)

The apocalypse is obviously going to be on November 4th, 2012.

no soon after the cubs win it all! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33949538)

no soon after the cubs win it all!

Repent? Who, me? (2, Funny)

snookerhog (1835110) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949392)

so this means another 60 days of total debauchery? cool

Re:Repent? Who, me? (1)

Sean_Inconsequential (1883900) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950650)

1) Sixty extra days.
2) ?????
3) Profit

Re:Repent? Who, me? (1)

UID30 (176734) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950810)

no no ... 2012 is an election year, so its another 60 days of douchebaggery.

Of course they're wrong (1)

Jackie_Chan_Fan (730745) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949396)

They predicted the end of the world, but not cell phones, breast implants or space shuttles?

Not listed in order of importance obviously...

Re:Of course they're wrong (3, Informative)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949494)

They predicted the end of the world,

If by they you mean the Maya, then, no, they didn't predict the end of the world.

They had a calendar which has a cycle expire at a particular time. The assignment of the "end of the world" or similar apocalyptic significance to that cycle expiration is something that was done in the 20th Century by New Age writers.

Re:Of course they're wrong (2, Interesting)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949658)

The Mayans had a Long Count calendar which was based on how many days since the day they believe creation started. They believed that this age was the fourth world and the fifth would start at the end of the Long Count. Now I'm not up to speed on the specifics but I don't think scholars have figured out what the Mayans thought would happen at the start of the fifth world. It might have been written down but the Spanish destroyed many Mayan texts labeling them as "heresy"

Re:Of course they're wrong (3, Informative)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950154)

The Mayans had a Long Count calendar which was based on how many days since the day they believe creation started.

Correct.

They believed that this age was the fourth world and the fifth would start at the end of the Long Count.

The first half is correct. The Maya did believe that this was the fourth -- and only successful -- creation, that followed three prior, failed attempts at creation.

The second half is less correct. First, the Long Count doesn't end (or at least not in the currently-expected lifetime of the universe and several orders of magnitude more; the abbreviated expression that was all that was needed to record current dates does 'run out', similar to the Y2K problem, but the Long Count has many higher positional cycles that were used in writing future dates, and occasionally used in writing current dates in ceremonial contexts.)

Second, there is no evidence that the Maya expected the current creation to end at any particular time; and there are concrete indications (in the form of predictions of events in the current creation that did require the use of higher-order cycles) that if they did expect the current creation to end, it wasn't at the point where Long Count dates counted from the beginning of the current creation would begin to need to use the higher-order cycles that weren't conventionally used to express current dates.

Re:Of course they're wrong (1)

cusco (717999) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950864)

Bishop Landa proudly reported to the Vatican that he had destroyed over a million Mayan books. Most of the very few that still exist may have been picked up as souvenirs by the invading soldiers.

The sooner the better (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33949404)

Between repulicans and democrats, big business and big goverment, apathetic voters and everything else. Blah, we need to completely start over.

Both sides equally suck.

Pre-planning (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33949450)

This is just pushing out the doomsday date before it actually doesn't happen. They're not waiting for the end to not happen, and then try to re-account for it like those silly Christians.

I am so glad! (2, Funny)

formfeed (703859) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949468)

Pointing out that the end ( or roll-over) of a calendar system doesn't cause the world to end, would still not have prevented people from panicking.

But now it turns out the date was off! Great news! Finally news anchors have a real story to report.

Old News (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33949482)

This is old news, and we've talked about this on slashdot before (i'm just not in the mood to dig for it)

Not and end (1)

jbarr (2233) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949498)

Doesn't the date just mean that the calendar rolls from "age" of the Myan calendar to the next? Sure, it's the transition from one to another, but isn't it more psychological than anything? After all, other than lining many IS people's pockets, wasn't 2000 relatively uneventful?

I partied like it was 1999, and I still had to go into work the following day....

Re:Not and end (3, Interesting)

evocarti (1731952) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949870)

Transitions from one age to the next, especially in mythological terms, tend to be violent and filled with hardship.

Re:Not and end (1)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949946)

Doesn't the date just mean that the calendar rolls from "age" of the Myan calendar to the next? Sure, it's the transition from one to another, but isn't it more psychological than anything? After all, other than lining many IS people's pockets, wasn't 2000 relatively uneventful?

I partied like it was 1999, and I still had to go into work the following day....

For starters, Y2K was a big issue, though not as big as everyone made it out to be. It wasn't like there was going to be a glitch and launch every nuke, it would have been more like being unable to use your bank account for a week. The reason it was relatively uneventful was the blood sweat and tears of your IS people, and yes they did get rich off it, but not without actually working on it.

For the Ancient Mayans, this actually had signifigant effects on their culture, much like how we celebrate Christmas and Easter every year, except this would have been a much bigger reason to party. It'd be like Y2K New Years, Christmas, And Spring Break in Cancun all at once. They had much smaller cycles within their cycle (like our months to a year) and everytime one of those rolled around, they actually added on another teir to their temples. Those big Mayan Pyramids you see when you google "Mayan"? They're actually temples built on top of temples.

The whole thing about the Calendar being "The End" is an odd bit - because the Mayans had 2 ways to track the date, the short count and the long count. Kind of like if I said "Tuesday the 19th" you don't know where exactly that Tuesday falls into place. Could be this year, years from now, months from now, who knows. That's kind of how the Mayan short count works - you only know the date if it were anywhere within a 52 year cycle. When the Conquistadors came and burned all but 3 books for reasons of Heresey - a lot of history was lost and the ambiguation of dates really began. Does this stela mean Dec 21 2012 or does it mean Dec 21 2064? No one can really tell. Then you get into the incongruences between their calendar and the Gregorian calendar, like leap years - and it becomes a giant mess trying to figure it all out.

Just a unit of measurement (1)

aardwolf64 (160070) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949506)

The Mayans never claimed to have predicted the end of the world... This is not majorly different than rolling over from December 31st to January 1st, except it happens less often.

Re:Just a unit of measurement (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33952580)

Actually it was all a big misunderstanding...

It all started at the calendar maker's store, where the lone emplyee was asking his boss about something.
"What happens then?"

"We run out of stock, kiddo. We won't be able to make any more calendars."

"What do we tell our customers? That we're out of supplies?"

"Make something up. Make it good so they won't bother us."

In a way, the Mayans were correct. (5, Funny)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949518)

In a way, the Mayans were correct. After all, whether the date is 2012 or 2013, the Maya did correctly predict that by that time the Maya would have no further need for a Mayan calendar.

Re:In a way, the Mayans were correct. (1)

Joe Snipe (224958) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950028)

[Citation Needed] [www.csms.ca]

Re:In a way, the Mayans were correct. (1)

Arancaytar (966377) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950742)

Which means they were way ahead of certain programmers in 1975.

What about the year 0 debate? did we even start it (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949556)

What about the year 0 debate? did we even start it on time as well it can be like 1-5 years each way off as well.

According to my calendar... (1)

Faatal (1907534) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949566)

The world goes tits up after October 31st 2010. It's just blank after that.

Or I could just turn the page.

Insensitive clod! (1)

srussia (884021) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949934)

The world goes tits up after October 31st 2010. It's just blank after that.

Or I could just turn the page.

Europe "falls back" on 31/10/2010. I've experienced enough mishaps on DST-change days to gain a healthy respect for a baktun rollover.

reschedule (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33949580)

Then it will be "Oh wait its actually 20012, we forgot to carry the zero"

Not really doomsday (4, Insightful)

canajin56 (660655) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949598)

The most damning evidence against the "doomsday" is the fact that at least one Mayan king wrote about how he hoped people will still celebrate him in, then he gave a date, a date several thousand years after the end of the Mayan long calendar. So, did he not get the memo that the world would have been destroyed thousands of years before that date? Was he just oblivious? Seems contrary to assume he was clueless, since the only reason we think the Mayan calendar predicts the end of the world is the assumption that they were all-knowing and all-seeing, by virtue of not being us.

Re:Not really doomsday (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33950080)

That's not really a contradiction. The Mayas believed that this world would end, not life in general. IIRC the worlds were concentric, or at least stacked on top of each other, and when one world ends the people ascend to the next one. I can't remember if there is a selection criterion for crossing over.

Re:Not really doomsday (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33950608)

He was in management. Nuff said.

5 Billion years to go... (0)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949600)

The end will come in 5 Billion years from now when the Sun becomes a Red Giant. The Mayans were wayyy off.

Re:5 Billion years to go... (1)

peragrin (659227) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950746)

Nope we just miss translated 5 thousand years for 5 billion years..

it could happen to anyone the US governement does it with tax money all the time.

no big deal

It was wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33949616)

Not just the date, all of it. Fucking numerologists.

Y2k38 (1)

tunapez (1161697) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949712)

I read that trolls and wizards will crawl out of their mothers' dungeons and lay waste to the world when Linux x32 calendar expires. Let's hope the Mayans' runs out first!

No, it won't (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949732)

Doom sayers will just sue this as an excuse to get another 60 days worth of attention.

Recalculated (1)

Drakkenmensch (1255800) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949734)

According to the math done after taking these new factors into consideration, the planned apocalypse will actually happen more or less in the next couple of sec

I just think all doomsday 'theorists' deserve to (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33949754)

be mocked and ridiculed.

Re:I just think all doomsday 'theorists' deserve t (1)

couchslug (175151) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950160)

I think they should be humored and coddled and talked into signing over their worldly goods as an act of faith.
The stupid deserved to be humilitated, for profit.

what really happened. (1)

Krau Ming (1620473) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949776)

it happened like this: the local calendar maker received a huge order for calendars going up to the year 25000 and he started making them but then after bunch he was like "nuts to this, i'm going for a beer" and he just so happened to leave off at dec 21 2012. the calendar maker never returned from his beer though...UNSOLVED MYSTERIES. i love that show.

Everyone knows the real date is 2038 (1)

chemicaldave (1776600) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949928)

January 19, 2038 03:14:08 GMT

Re:Everyone knows the real date is 2038 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33950972)

UNIX HAS A PROBLEM IN 2038...

60 days? Really (2, Insightful)

medv4380 (1604309) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949964)

Given that the calendar is based on the winter solstice and the rollover occurs on every winter solstice. The Gregorian calendar is flawed in tracking the solstice because it floats just enough because it's not based on a perfect solar year but it's close enough. 60 days off is kind of absurd since it would put it no were near the soltices or equinox that were used. I'd believe that they had the wrong year 2011 vs 2013 or 2012 but wrong astrological event? hardly

2013 is a far worse doomsday scenario (1)

scourfish (573542) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949980)

The US, after having been ravaged by nuclear war, will be caught on a power struggle between anarchy and an ultra-survivalist group, the Holnists. The only people who will be able to save us then will be Kevin Costner, Ford-Lincoln-Mercury, and president Richard Starkey. Also, Tom Petty will be the mayor of a town.

Re:2013 is a far worse doomsday scenario (1)

treeves (963993) | more than 3 years ago | (#33951194)

Richard Starkey (the one I've heard of) is not a natural-born US citizen, so...OK, let's not go there.

Of /course/ it might be (1)

The Master Control P (655590) | more than 3 years ago | (#33949986)

Well, I see it's time to start creating an out for when this latest bit of stupidity invariably proves to be wrong.

Thank god! (1)

pablo_max (626328) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950002)

I had booked the great place for a wedding on the 23rd. I was afraid I would be hosed!

60 days? (1)

boristdog (133725) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950006)

Dammit!

It's going to be hard enough to keep them all virgins until the end of 2012. How am I supposed to convince them to wait longer?

As a California resident, the world will never end (1)

by (1706743) (1706744) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950008)

Proof:
  1. * It is tomorrow in Australia (IDL [wikipedia.org] magic).
  2. * Australia is part of the world.
  3. * Therefore, the world exists tomorrow.
  4. * By induction, the world exists every day.

Well...maybe this breaks at certain times of the day...

Well... (1)

SoulMaster (717007) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950108)

That sucks for these guys [2012ins.com] !

I wonder if they'll honor the policy I bought for 12-21-2012 if the disaster is pushed 60 days!

That's good to hear (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33950180)

This way Hillary will get at least 30 days in the White House. I mean it would really suck to win the election, and have the world blow up a month before you get to try on the shoes

May 19th 2013 Expect Us (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33950230)

May 19th 2013 Expect Us

damn... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33950258)

Now I'll have to make thousands of calls to move the date of my end-of-the-world party.

The world will end in 73 days... (1)

otaku244 (1804244) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950282)

I have a paper calendar in my house that stops at December 31. I knew things wouldn't last forever...

The real answer (0)

naoursla (99850) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950562)

What the research is failing to recognize is that moving the date out 60 days or so prevents the end of the world date from being a base three number.

12212012 in decimal is equal to 4271, which when represented as cents is almost but not quite completely unlike the answer 42.

The answers used to be so simple (1)

DontLickJesus (1141027) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950578)

Seeing that the Mayans could actually see the stars and watched the galactic center move through the sky, I find it hilarious that this conversation invokes so much debate. The average Mayan likely could have looked up at the night sky and gotten all the answers they needed. All these electric lights have spoiled our eyes. Starlight would be enough if we were accustomed to it.

EOW (1)

BMAPARTS (1901854) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950592)

I think everyone has a different view on the exact "due Date", but I seriously think that nothing is going to happen, and if it does oh well.

At least... (1)

undecim (1237470) | more than 3 years ago | (#33950716)

Unfortunately, even if the apocalypse is rescheduled, doomsday theorists will unlikely take note

At least not until after Dec 12, 2012

The end is inevitable... (2, Insightful)

joeyblades (785896) | more than 3 years ago | (#33951112)

Not the end of the planet, solar system, galaxy, universe, time or whatever is supposed to occur in 2012 (of course, those things will inevitably end, as well). However the inevitable end that I'm referring to is the end of a period of time that can be represented by a calender. I have never understood why the end of the Mayan calendar has to be the end of anything... I mean, The Dilbert calender on my desk ends on December 31st of this year... I wonder if I should attach any cosmic significance to that?

lol (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33951316)

what a relief

Me, I know the end of the world is coming shortly (1)

SolarStorm (991940) | more than 3 years ago | (#33951484)

The leafs have not lost in regular time (1 OTL) and are in first place. Satan is buying winter coats and the Apocalypse is nigh.

NOOOOOOOO (1)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 3 years ago | (#33952026)

Damn it!

Every time a time gets pushed back it's a bad thing. I just want the date to come and go so that I can point and yell I told you so!

Heck several people on another forum I visit are convinced that we are having a pole-reversal at that time. And I don't mean a magnetic pole-reversal (which is quasi-plausible) - I mean they actually think the damned planet is going to physically flip around backwards.

trO7l (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33952262)

Are thereW? oh, [goat.cx]

More than 60 days (2, Funny)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 3 years ago | (#33952546)

New calculations will push it further to April 1st, 2013

LHC (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 3 years ago | (#33952688)

To know for sure, just bookmark LHC's schedule.

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