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Comic Sales Soar After Artist Engages 4chan Pirates

kdawson posted more than 3 years ago | from the more-flies-with-honey dept.

Piracy 305

An anonymous reader writes "Steve Lieber, the artist behind the graphic novel Underground, discovered that someone on 4chan had scanned and posted the entire comic. Rather than complaining, he joined the conversation, chatting with the 4channers about the comic... and the next day he saw his sales jump to unheard-of levels, much higher than he'd seen even when the comic book was reviewed on popular sites like Boing Boing."

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Imagine that! (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33988876)

Engaging your customer base is good for business...

Re:Imagine that! (5, Insightful)

Shikaku (1129753) | more than 3 years ago | (#33988912)

Something the RIAA/MPAA will never learn.

Re:Imagine that! (4, Insightful)

erroneus (253617) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989058)

They might... they just might. The fact is, they need to read the book "Raving Fans." When your customers are your fans, they will overlook higher prices, problems with delivery and all sorts of things with the exception of poor quality and/or poor service.

Example (4, Insightful)

imthesponge (621107) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989292)

Apple is a good example of this phenomenon.

Re:Imagine that! (2, Insightful)

Dalzhim (1588707) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989440)

Well you just contradicted yourself. They won't if it won't get their customers to overlook poor quality and/or poor service...

Re:Imagine that! (4, Insightful)

denis-The-menace (471988) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989256)

They already use lawyers and Congress to "engage" their customer base. why do it directly?

Their true customers are the shareholders of the companies that are member of the MAFIAA, not consumers.

Re:Imagine that! (1)

Dripdry (1062282) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989484)

Ah, but as shares concentrate into the hands of the few and powerful,but sales dwindle, they will either sink or go back to their customers to actually give them something they want, yes?

Cryptomnesia (4, Informative)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989562)

Ah, but as shares concentrate into the hands of the few and powerful,but sales dwindle

Then the music publishers affiliated with the major record labels will likely start making accusations of cryptomnesia [wikipedia.org] , or accidental infringement of copyright in a work published years ago, against indie songwriters and recording artists. See Bright Tunes Music v. Harrisongs Music [vwh.net] for an example of how it could go down.

Re:Imagine that! (1)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989666)

If Congress is forcibly engaging their customer base, how do you propose that sales will "dwindle"?

Re:Imagine that! (2, Funny)

jgtg32a (1173373) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989444)

>Implying that dragging people to court isn't engaging

Re:Imagine that! (4, Interesting)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989114)

Engaging your customer base is good for business...

People looking for entertainment spend more money when they have more fun. That's one of the main reasons actual losses due to piracy aren't calculatable.

Re:Imagine that! (2, Interesting)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989302)

This is one of the reasons why I release all the music I make on last.fm and in a torrent...both of which will be freely available and supported by me when the time comes to put my stuff up for sale.

Granted, I'm not trying to make a living off it, but still...the more access people have to it...

Re:Imagine that! (1)

veganboyjosh (896761) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989376)

It seems like whenever this conversation comes up, someone posts "I would like to listen to music from artists who do this, but I can't find any" or similar.

In the interest of giving them a lead, and letting us here your stuff, care to post a link to your own work?

Re:Imagine that! (1)

djrosen (265939) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989458)

See link in his sig, or incase you hide them:

http://livingwithanerd.com/ [livingwithanerd.com]

Re:Imagine that! (4, Interesting)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989480)

Here you go [last.fm] . Look in the "shout" section for a link to the torrent.

It's all a combination of spacey ambient ("Transient Unknown" project), drone ("Implied Reality" project), and chilled-out head nodding stuff ("Lost on the Way to the Laundry" project). I have a LOT more than what is on there, but that's what I've publicly released so far.

Re:Imagine that! (2, Informative)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989536)

One other thing: be sure to listen to it with headphones! It's been mixed with that intention...you can use "regular" speakers, but a lot of the dynamics are lost.

Re:Imagine that! (1)

veganboyjosh (896761) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989542)

Will check it out, thanks!

Re:Imagine that! (5, Insightful)

TrekkieGod (627867) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989494)

This is one of the reasons why I release all the music I make on last.fm and in a torrent...both of which will be freely available and supported by me when the time comes to put my stuff up for sale.

Granted, I'm not trying to make a living off it, but still...the more access people have to it...

The article had a quote by the author that he posted on the 4chan boards that really got to me:

As for putting all the pages up here. What can I say? I get that this is how things go, and I'm trying to live in the same decade as everyone else. If nothing else, I'm flattered that someone thought enough of the book to take the time to scan and post it.

From that quote, I noticed two things: he didn't expect that he would get a huge boost in sales from the event, he was just kinda resigned that you can't stop piracy. However, the most important part was the whole bit about being flattered that people liked his book. Sometimes you forget this caliber of artist still exists: the guy who cares about the work more than the money. The money is nice, and I'm happy when the artists can survive and even get rich off it. However, that shouldn't be the motivation for what they do.

So, thanks for what you do, keeping the real art alive. I went to your website, and found the links to last.fm to your music, and I will take a listen. Obviously I don't know if I'll enjoy it, but if I do, you can count me on your list of customers as soon as they go on sale.

Re:Imagine that! (2, Informative)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989566)

Thanks! That's basically why I do it...it's something that I really enjoy. I make music that I personally want to listen to. While there aren't many people that share my tastes, there are at least some out there :-)

I'd suggest starting with the "Lost on the Way to the Laundry" stuff (only two tracks up there at the moment)...it's the most accessible.

Re:Imagine that! (4, Insightful)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989162)

Engaging customer base = good. However, simply because something works on the micro level doesn't mean it scales to the macro level. I somehow doubt that having hundreds of artists flood 4chan would result in all of them getting increases in sales.

It is kind of like "if i stand up at a baseball game I can see better, therefore if everyone stands up at the baseball game everyone can see better".

Re:Imagine that! (4, Insightful)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989284)

Engaging customer base = good. However, simply because something works on the micro level doesn't mean it scales to the macro level. I somehow doubt that having hundreds of artists flood 4chan would result in all of them getting increases in sales.

If this were a new thing you might have a point. However, in Japan they have their own equivalent of comic-con and people make their own fan-zines and sell them for a profit. It's technically illegal but they never get shut down. The reason is that excitement over a franchise is still excitement over a franchise. This was known over 10 years ago but nobody over here is paying attention to it. It's amusing to me because the same country that's known for its $4 cups of coffee is under the impression people will go to extremes to avoid paying money for stuff.

Re:Imagine that! (1)

trytoguess (875793) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989464)

On the other hand, Japan has what we'd consider some rather draconian copyright laws. Copying data even for personal use has been ruled infringing, and folks have been arrested for sharing television shows on P2P networks. I can't help but wonder how this might have played out in 2chan.

Re:Imagine that! (1)

gumbi west (610122) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989616)

You must be new here.

It's kind of like how you can see over the other cars if you drive and SUV. But if everyone got an SUV, then you are back in the original situation but now everyone pays more for gas per mile.

There, fixed it. BTW, what is baseball, and why don't people do it here in my mother's basement?

Re:Imagine that! (1)

Allicorn (175921) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989242)

It's not a customer base, it's a treasure island.

"Theft increases sales" (2, Insightful)

imthesponge (621107) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989260)

The summary tries to spin this story as "theft increases sales". In reality the theft just prompted the author to do the smart thing and talk to potential customers.

Re:"Theft increases sales" (1)

osu-neko (2604) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989456)

The summary tries to spin this story as "theft increases sales". In reality the theft just prompted the author to do the smart thing and talk to potential customers.

That's funny, because the summary says the soaring sales came after the author engaged with readers (and not right after the comic was posted). In other words, what the summary says is pretty much exactly what you say is true "in reality" and the opposite of what you say it says. Why you're trying to insert into the summary things it doesn't say (indeed, a contradiction to what it actually says) I'm not sure.

Re:"Theft increases sales" (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989660)

Theft? Speaking of spin....

Here are the files (1)

stephanruby (542433) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989308)

Apparently, he even posted the scans [undergroundthecomic.com] on his web site. On that note, can anyone recommend me a good comic viewer that will browse/open this type of .cbt files on Windows, or even better a comic viewer that could browse/open this type of .cbt files on my Evo (Android phone). There are so many manga/comic viewers out there, I'd rather not waste my time trying a different bunch of them.

Re:Here are the files (2, Informative)

biryokumaru (822262) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989482)

ComicRack [cyolito.com] is simply the best.

No, really, it is. But Comix [sourceforge.net] is passable if you want a leaner program.

cbt = tarball of JPEGs (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989612)

On that note, can anyone recommend me a good comic viewer that will browse/open this type of .cbt files on Windows

You could open cbt/cbr/cbz files in 7-Zip. They're just archives in commonly used formats, with different extensions to indicate that the archive contains paged media such as photos or comics.

Re:Imagine that! (1)

DaveAtWorkAnnoyingly (655625) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989366)

It's amazing that it's taken this long for this very simple fact to be realised.

Engage your customer base, don't prosecute them...

Make good products, the customers will come... Simples...

Good? (5, Funny)

whisper_jeff (680366) | more than 3 years ago | (#33988886)

4chan can use their powers for good?

Um... I just don't know how to process that information...

Re:Good? (4, Informative)

jack2000 (1178961) | more than 3 years ago | (#33988924)

You do know 4chan has a big comics board right? People on it are pretty heavily into comics. If the world is out that the author cares enough to discuss with his fans the non hardcore fans will hear good things from the hardcore crowd and also buy.

Furry comics too? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989630)

You do know 4chan has a big comics board right? People on it are pretty heavily into comics.

Unless, of course, the characters are uplifted [wikipedia.org] animals [tvtropes.org] . Then you get the anti-furry memes going.

Re:Good? (5, Insightful)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 3 years ago | (#33988980)

4chan can use their powers for good?

Um... I just don't know how to process that information...

4chan strikes me a bit more like the classic greek gods, capricious, capable of granting blessings and curses on a whim.

Re:Good? (2, Insightful)

BJ_Covert_Action (1499847) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989064)

Not to mention, way too obsessed with sex and the human form.

Re:Good? (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989374)

Not to mention, way too obsessed with sex and the human form[?].

You weren't reading the same greek myths I was reading. Beams of light, bulls, birds, everything but human.

Re:Good? (1)

HappyHead (11389) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989548)

Yes, but what did they _do_ with those Beams of light, bulls, birds, showers of gold, swans, and other things? They obsessed over the human forms of mortals. In much the same manner that 4chan does...

Re:Good? (1)

Altus (1034) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989560)

Gods appearing as non humans and copulating with humans.

Maybe your not reading the same 4chan that I am.

Re:Good? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33989084)

4chan strikes me a bit more like the classic greek gods, capricious, capable of granting blessings and curses on a whim.

Along with a steady dose of bestiality and incest.

Re:Good? (5, Funny)

Even on Slashdot FOE (1870208) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989222)

Well, he did say Greek gods, amirite?

Re:Good? (2, Informative)

Mashiki (184564) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989406)

Along with a steady dose of bestiality and incest.

The classic greek gods got on with a lot of that anyway.

Re:Good? (1)

euxneks (516538) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989424)

4chan can use their powers for good?

Um... I just don't know how to process that information...

4chan strikes me a bit more like the classic greek gods, capricious, capable of granting blessings and curses on a whim.

Just don't tell them that.

Re:Good? (1)

Dalzhim (1588707) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989472)

Quote-worthy.

Re:Good? (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989488)

what if i sacrifice my goat?

will 4chan bless me with more rain if i sacrifice my goat?

Goat S(acrific)e (3, Funny)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989656)

will 4chan bless me with more rain if i sacrifice my goat?

Start with "goat sacrifice", and then sacrifice the letters in the middle of the second word.

[the game]

Good? Definitely not (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33989116)

they were just trying to ddos his comic strip .

Re:Good? Definitely not (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33989158)

From the graph that got posted, it looks like they DDoSed his bank account.

Re:Good? (2, Informative)

X_Bones (93097) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989190)

4chan can use their powers for good?

4chan isn't just /b/ . Some of its less-popular boards like /co/ (the comics board, where this took place) actually have, on occasion, informative and insightful discussions.

Re:Good? (2, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989254)

They've done it before (with the Scientologists).

Re:Good? (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989646)

So a troll of my troll is my friend? Or is that more like when a couple of barons of hell are going at it in Doom and you wait around to finish the winner off with your shotgun?

Oh my, what dramatic neverbefore seen turn of even (1)

jack2000 (1178961) | more than 3 years ago | (#33988892)

Talking with your userbase boosts sales. News at eleven.

to be fair (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33988896)

These days Cory and teh boingboing gang will plug anything

I think exposure to piracy normalizes sales. (5, Insightful)

feepness (543479) | more than 3 years ago | (#33988914)

Those with high sales would see them reduce, and relative unknowns would see them increase.

Thus the resistance at the high end, and embracing at the lower end.

Physics (1)

zooblethorpe (686757) | more than 3 years ago | (#33988954)

Thus the resistance at the high end, and embracing at the lower end.

Almost sounds like electronics.

Cheers,

Re:I think exposure to piracy normalizes sales. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33988992)

Do you have any actual evidence that high sales have reduced because of "piracy"? Such a thing always seems assumed and never clearly documented (as this story documents the increase in sales following "piracy").

Re:I think exposure to piracy normalizes sales. (1)

feepness (543479) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989218)

Do you have any actual evidence that high sales have reduced because of "piracy"? Such a thing always seems assumed and never clearly documented (as this story documents the increase in sales following "piracy").

Nope. I'm just theorizing in a random comment on a message board.

It is, unfortunately, difficult to prove in an existing high sales environment.

I "dig" the "quotes" on ""piracy"", though.

Re:I think exposure to piracy normalizes sales. (1)

DanTheStone (1212500) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989552)

For clarification: The scare quotes were because it was the term you used, but not one that I consider accurate. I was just wondering what you based your theory on, and whether there have been any (non-experimental) links seen like the one in this article. I know that piracy can sometimes increase valuable exposure for obscure artists (like this story), but I haven't seen evidence or anecdotal evidence of piracy decreasing sales in any measurable way.

Re:I think exposure to piracy normalizes sales. (2, Informative)

skuzzlebutt (177224) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989422)

Joe Konrath did some experimenting earlier this year, and found evidence of correlation...if I remember right, he put all of his books on his site for free for a day or so and asked people to put them out on torrent sites, share with friends, etc. According to his analysis, his sales increased markedly shortly thereafter. Not proof, but pretty hard to ignore that there was probably some strong correlation there.

Re:I think exposure to piracy normalizes sales. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33989522)

Does this apply to music?

Imho, listening to music on a computer is better than listening to it from a CD player. I'm not even sure the last time I used a CD player. Reading from a (non E-ink-style) screen, otoh, sucks compared to reading from a page.

Re:I think exposure to piracy normalizes sales. (3, Insightful)

erroneus (253617) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989340)

Are you assuming this or do you have data to back this up?

"Piracy" (by which I mean copyright infringement) has many variables associated with the rate and amount of infringement activity. Some of these are ease of copying, price of legal content, restrictions on legal content and more.

Furthermore, it seems no one has ever produced any hard evidence that shows exactly what connections, if there are any, exist between piracy and sales "losses." Lost sales are a negative and it is pretty difficult to prove a negative. One would have to have access to alternate time lines to know for sure. Thus any estimated losses due to piracy is always a completely wild guess.

Re:I think exposure to piracy normalizes sales. (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989506)

In this case I think it's also about people feeling a desire to reward the creator for being cool.

People are always not what economists would call "rational actors". Either that or we need to establish a price for a positive feeling.

Re:I think exposure to piracy normalizes sales. (1)

trytoguess (875793) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989534)

At the risk of sounding pessimistic, I suspect this spike came because of the novelty of the situation. Should all comics try this, I suspect the effects would be analogous to webcomics. The very best and/or the best marketed comics will gain hits while the others will be mostly lost in the noise and the free publicity won't do much for them.

Fighting 4chan? (2, Interesting)

Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 3 years ago | (#33988916)

Fighting 4Chan is a bad idea. But exploiting them for money? That's new! Will this trend extend to other vendors such as Doritos or Mr. Pibb? Maybe that infamous "Dollar Menu? I'd hit it!" ad that seems to advocation burgersex was actually aimed at 4Chan.

Re:Fighting 4chan? (0, Offtopic)

TheKidWho (705796) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989010)

obligatory xkcd: http://xkcd.com/591/ [xkcd.com]

Re:Fighting 4chan? (1)

skuzzlebutt (177224) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989276)

Relevant self-pimping:

I published a book last summer about a 4chan-ish group called Amity (name of the book and name of the site where they congregate). In the book, a major soft drink corp tries to do just that: take advantage of the scale of the site users by pushing ads on them, thinking them an innocuous group of consumers. As one could imagine, it doesn't go so well for the soft drink company...

Well I'll be (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33988936)

Wait so free sharing of copyrighted material can have positive effects on the copyright holder?

That isn't what the RIAA said at all!

I wonder... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33988994)

I wonder what the word "anecdotal" means. Hmmmm. Oh well, not important.

Re:I wonder... (3, Funny)

Kell Bengal (711123) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989038)

It's the adjectival form of datum, duh.

Dear Steve Ballmer : Here's How to Increase (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33989014)

Windows sales: post to piratebay

Thanks in advance, although, a cashier's check in the amount of Euro 100,000,000 would help.

Yours In Krasnoyarsk,
Kilgore Trout

This is why piracy is good (1)

metrix007 (200091) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989096)

and not at all stealing.

Re:This is why piracy is good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33989194)

No, this is why treating your fanbase like the fans they are is good. Do you supposed he'd have seen the same spike in sales if he pitched a *IAA-esque bitchfit? What about if he just let it go and never said a word?

Re:This is why piracy is good (1)

strugglz (1924634) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989280)

If you want people to break that conception, don't call it piracy. Neuter the term like we have with so many other things. Call it "free information exchange" or something.

piracy is better than obscurity (2, Insightful)

Chalex (71702) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989110)

As Cory Doctorow says "my biggest threat as an author isn't piracy, it's obscurity."

What better way to increase sales than making sure that everyone has heard of your work?

Re:piracy is better than obscurity (5, Funny)

greyline (1052440) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989174)

Who?

Let me guess... (3, Funny)

Foolomon (855512) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989112)

...the comic was not about Gene Simmons?

the other trend (3, Insightful)

Dan667 (564390) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989136)

is people like gene simmons and lars ulrich trying to convince executives that the real reason their sales suck is because of piracy. I guess this pretty much destroys that line of thinking.

Re:the other trend (2, Informative)

JxcelDolghmQ (1827432) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989268)

Somebody needs to douse Gene and Lars with gasoline and set them on fire.

Re:the other trend (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33989344)

Turns out that the same tactic here didn't work out so well for Radiohead.

But that's ok. Just keep ignoring the data that doesn't fit your model. Slashdorks are good at doing that.

Re:the other trend (3, Insightful)

Dan667 (564390) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989640)

what are you talking about? "In Rainbows" would have never gotten that kind of marketing any other way and it is still selling. And everyone knows bands make most of their money from their concerts so in cutting out their record company, EMI, they kept a much larger percentage of the earnings than they would have gotten from a traditional release. It was a huge success for them.

In B4 ad storm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33989188)

I hope this doesn't become a trend.... /b/ is not your personal consumer army.

Re:In B4 ad storm... (1)

hesiod (111176) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989600)

It was on /co/nsumerism.

so.. (0, Flamebait)

bhcompy (1877290) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989246)

This comic must be full of futa then?

Just curious... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33989250)

... how many of the sales were completed using credit card numbers that turned out to be stolen? (grin)

Good people skills (3, Interesting)

Drakkenmensch (1255800) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989300)

Treating your customers with respect is the best way to see them respect you right back, often with money and sales. RIAA needs to seriously take notice of this.

Re:Good people skills (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33989486)

Wait... no, they don't. It's best for the RIAA and the rest to die out and be replaced with new blood in the media industry so we get some new ideas. I can only imagine how exciting music and movies can be if the fans and customers were involved in enjoying it. Let's hope they don't take notice and die quickly...

Profit? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33989314)

So step two is to engage productively with your audience? Who'd a thunk it. A link from /. is a nice cherry on the top.

Correlation and causation. (1)

sseaman (931799) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989348)

Also, people give out free samples all the time to create a "buzz" about a product that will likely fly under the radar. I don't see anything new here.

Most pirated material is stuff people already know about and want. Do you think if Adobe started giving away Photoshop people would suddenly desire it more than they already do?

New graph in 3...2...1... (4, Interesting)

Orgasmatron (8103) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989368)

I can't wait to see his sales graph after he adds the /. effect. How do we stack up to 4chan in terms of economic power?

I'm ordering the TPB. I got back into comics about a year ago after dropping out for a decade. Wish I'd noticed this when it came out.

Re:New graph in 3...2...1... (3, Interesting)

gknoy (899301) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989524)

More importantly, how many of us would be ordering mainly because we want to read the book versus we want to reward the author for being a non-jerk, and hey this book looks neat too? I'd fall in the latter, if I were to read it.

On the other hand, that's exactly the reason I deliberately look for Baen-published books at the bookstore when I'm looking for something new. Read about their awesome policies, read Honor Harrington online, bought some (not enough!) novels in print later.

Re:New graph in 3...2...1... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33989528)

http://www.undergroundthecomic.com/2010/10/pictures-help-us-learn/ [undergroundthecomic.com]

At a quick glance, I'd say he got 30x the sales he saw from his Boing Boing review.

Re:New graph in 3...2...1... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33989652)

Slashdotters are probably less likely to pay for something they can pirate, even though they are much better paid than the majority of basement dwelling teenage 4channers.

Wow, the Slashdot piracy party is at it again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33989404)

Don't you think his sales would be better had they *not* copied his comic *and* he made an appearance on their forums?

Re:Wow, the Slashdot piracy party is at it again (1)

Oligonicella (659917) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989540)

Shhhhh. Logic.

So that's what happens... (4, Funny)

RealGrouchy (943109) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989408)

So that's what happens when you feed the trolls...

- RG>

Re:So that's what happens... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33989438)

So that's what happens when you feed the trolls...

In Anonymous Union, trolls feed you!

Context (1)

njfuzzy (734116) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989500)

Sure, this vastly increased sales-- the artist's direct sales of the trade paperback on his own Etsy. We have no sense at all of the scale of impact on overall sales. In effect, this was just the best opportunity he had had to drive traffic to his own site. Would this have even shown up as a blip in total overall sales? Did Amazon see a similar peak?

Somebody should mention (4, Informative)

Kevin108 (760520) | more than 3 years ago | (#33989650)

The B&W chapter 1 preview PDF on the author's site is NSFW.

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