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Bredolab Botnet Taken Down

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the nothing-else-happening-today dept.

Botnet 187

Leon Buijs writes "Monday a 27-year-old Armenian was arrested at request of the Dutch authorities. The Dutch police think he is the brain behind the infamous, 30 million infected computers large Bredolab network, that was taken down by their Team (in Dutch) High Crime. Bredolab was used to spread virii and spam via the Netherlands. While taking the botnet down at a Dutch ISP, the suspect did several attempts to regain control. When this didn't work out, he did a DDoS attack on the ISP's servers using a 220,000 computers botnet. However, this was also broken off by taking 3 servers offline that the Armanian used for this, in Paris."

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Well, I guess that leaves more hosts available (2, Insightful)

h00manist (800926) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027674)

to anyone else willing to take them.

Don't use made up words (4, Informative)

nyctopterus (717502) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027680)

In before everyone else: there is no such word as 'virii'.

Re:Don't use made up words (2, Informative)

Spyware23 (1260322) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027706)

This. For the love of tech news, spell-check your shit, slashdot.

Re:Don't use made up words (3, Informative)

Arancaytar (966377) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027766)

Armania concurs. :P

Re:Don't use made up words (2, Funny)

nopainogain (1091795) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027888)

as an Armenian, i say we coin the word ARMANIA, and define it as "aa condition of women who love those nurturing income-producing, middle-eastern christian guys". I need to meet some hot women who have "armania"

Re:Don't use made up words (1)

Mikkeles (698461) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028206)

I thought it was a brand of expensive suit.

Re:Don't use made up words (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34028268)

No, it's the condition of being compelled to always wear said expensive suits.

Re:Don't use made up words (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34028424)

This would actually be Armanophilia, meaning a love of all things Armenian.

Re:Don't use made up words (2, Funny)

Arthur Grumbine (1086397) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028582)

as an Armenian, i say we coin the word ARMANIA, and define it as...

Unfortunately, the word is already understood to mean, "the sweeping trend to compulsively talk like a pirate".

Re:Don't use made up words (1)

martas (1439879) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028596)

as an Armenian, I can tell you the two definitions aren't necessarily mutually exclusive, considering our tendency to acquire property through less than legal means...

Re:Don't use made up words (1)

nopainogain (1091795) | more than 3 years ago | (#34029180)

angry with myself for how long it took me to get the pirate reference. ARRRR!

Re:Don't use made up words (1)

BeanThere (28381) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028530)

I've been here a while and people have been calling for this for, what, probably over ten years now, so I wouldn't hold my breath. In 2020 we'll have this discussion again.

Re:Don't use made up words (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34029156)

And in the interest of not butchering the English language any more than we need to, can we please also go back to saying "I agree" instead of "this"? Thanks.

Re:Don't use made up words (3, Informative)

Quietust (205670) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027716)

For the benefit of people who mistakenly use it that way, the correct word is "viruses".

stuff it, Rainman! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34028358)

next you'll be trying to tell us that beeeeotchae isn't the proper plural of interweb spelling NAZI

Re:Don't use made up words (1)

hkz (1266066) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027732)

Armanian; noun; someone who wears Armani suits when committing High Crime.

Re:Don't use made up words (2, Funny)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027824)

I saw "Armanian" and all I could think of to post were jokes involving his lawyers filing expensive suits.

Re:Don't use made up words (2, Insightful)

donnyspi (701349) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027738)

aren't all words made up? :-D

Re:Don't use made up words (5, Funny)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027948)

No, some are still mad at each other.

Re:Don't use made up words (1)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028472)

All made up words are perfectly cromulent.

Re:Don't use made up words (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34027752)

...there is no such word as 'virii'.

We know... but we keep using it because we know it pisses you off.

Re:Don't use made up words (-1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027808)

Yes there is. Not in Latin, maybe, but in English, certainly. You may not like it, but that's not the determinant.

Re:Don't use made up words (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34027910)

No, there isn't. There is no such word as "virii," even in English, no matter how much you might like to believe there is.

Don't believe me? Go check dictionary.com, your pocket Merriam-Webster dictionary, any reputable medical medical journal, or hell, the unabridged OED. It simply does not exist.

Using "virii" (or the equivalently stupid "boxen") in any context just makes you look like a pretentious dolt.

Re:Don't use made up words (2, Funny)

Captain Spam (66120) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027982)

Using "virii" (or the equivalently stupid "boxen") in any context just makes you look like a pretentious dolt.

And complaining with the amount of vitroil you're dedicating to it about people using those words doesn't?

Re:Don't use made up words (3, Insightful)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028250)

Try here:

http://www.onelook.com/?w=virii [onelook.com]

People keep using it and understanding it. In English. Which is made of words from several other languages, many misused to varying degrees relative to their foreign etymologies.

Dictionaries are descriptive, not prescriptive. They can tell you what a word you saw means, based on its previously observed contexts, but they can't tell you whether it's right or wrong. If they try, they are wrong.

The correct Latin plural would probably be virera. But we don't speak Latin any more. We only use it for religious sloganeering and high-falutin' biological codices.

That's if it's at all possible to pluralize it even in Latin. It's nearest synonym in English is "slime" or "pus", or the noun sense of "ooze", but we use it for "microphage", giving it countability. Like "water" or "blue" have no true plural in English, we nonetheless have invented "waters" and "blues" to describe situations where the singular form does not encompase the plurality of the context. Our choice of suffix in pluralization when inventing new words is entirely unbounded by any rules, as English has almost none given the many ancient systems it supports innately. So we resort to poetry, and choose one that sounds good.

I'll go with "virii" over "viruses" in almost every situation.

Oh, and I'm not a "pretentious dolt." I'm genuinely superior to you, intellectually.

Re:Don't use made up words (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34028648)

It's nearest synonym in English is "slime" or "pus", or the noun sense of "ooze", but we use it for "microphage", giving it countability. Like "water" or "blue" have no true plural in English

Nonsense!!

water => waterii
blue => blii
slime => slimii
puss =>pusii
ooze => oiiii!

Now, please add them to your dictionary.

Re:Don't use made up words (2, Informative)

Colonel Korn (1258968) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028886)

So we resort to poetry, and choose one that sounds good.

I'll go with "virii" over "viruses" in almost every situation.

Except in English we have no good way to pronounce "ii." Viruses sounds good because it never goes through an awkward double vowel phase. VIE-ree-IE is our best option for pronouncing virii, but it doesn't have great analogues in our language and involves a rare and limp lack of consonant sounds at the end.

Often, I hear people pronouncing virii VIE-REE, VIE-RIE, or VIE-REE-EE. It's simply unclear which is correct to the majority of people who have already settled on virii as their preferred spelling of the plural. Hence, I find that virii is an incredibly unsuccessful word with a clearly superior alternative.

If we wanted to go with a pseudo-Latin suffix, viri is clearly more familiar and more phonetically successful. The double i simply has no benefit.

Re:Don't use made up words (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028912)

There must be a natural law that any grammar flame must include at least one typo.

If "encompase" isn't a word, it should be. And it shouldn't just be a synonym for "encompass", either.

Re:Don't use made up words (1)

nomadic (141991) | more than 3 years ago | (#34029072)

The correct Latin plural would probably be virera.

Not in any legitimate form or number; closest to that would be the genitive plural, "virorum," meaning "of the viruses"; like: "amici vrrum" - "the viruses' friends." I don't know where you made up your crazy Latin.

Re:Don't use made up words (1)

cyphercell (843398) | more than 3 years ago | (#34029320)

"Oh, and I'm not a "pretentious dolt." I'm genuinely superior to you, intellectually."

Actually, the non-pretentious manner of expression here would be "You're a fucking idiot." - anyone other than a dolt would know better.

Go check urban dictionary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34028254)

Somewhere I read that /. had a slogan "News for nerds". This is nerd-language for a special kind of nerds. But, I do not encourage you to do much more research on this subject on the Internet without having your security fixes and system security at maximum. A small sub-culture uses this word because of practical reasons. Virii has no singular form, only a plural one. This tells you something about the definition of the word: It is infact a category that defines software and practices associated with a broad range of malicious software, and accompanied software to make such digital attacks. It is obvious that you should have your computer updated with latest patches and good security software before you visit too many sited mentioning this term.

Source:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=virii

Re:Go check urban dictionary (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028420)

The irony is that the third definition there uses the execrable "is comprised of", which is an incorrect usage of an English word "comprised" whose only meaning is "included". "Is included of" is completely ungrammatical and should be simply "comprises", which means "includes".

While pluralizing an otherwise unpluralizable word in an inventive manner is okay, using a word form as the wrong part of speech is bad grammar, and we do have rules against it.

Re:Don't use made up words (3, Insightful)

Conspiracy_Of_Doves (236787) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027842)

If a word is in common usage, even if it's just within a particular subculture, who is to say that it isn't a "real" word? You?

Re:Don't use made up words (3, Insightful)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028142)

Why not? Doesn't everyone have equal say as to what constitutes common usage? If enough of us express our distaste for it then it may fall out of use and thus cease to be common usage. If not, then it may not. Everyone participates in forming the language. That includes dissing dorky neologisms.

Re:Don't use made up words (1)

eln (21727) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028398)

If enough of us express our distaste for it then it may fall out of use and thus cease to be common usage.

No, it won't. Let me explain to you how this works:

Step 1: Someone coins a new word.
Step 2: A few others start to use the word because they thing it sounds cool.
Step 3: Pedantic nerds complain that the new word isn't a real word.
Step 4: People start using the word 10 times more often specifically to annoy the pedantic nerds.
Step 5: Pedantic nerds angrily seek out the word wherever it's being used and attempt to fight back with angry, red-faced, spittle-launching tirades.
Step 6: Attracted by the spectacle of the pedantic nerds, more people learn of the word and start using it in order to further troll the nerds.
Step 7: Steps 5 and 6 repeat until the word becomes a firmly established part of the common lexicon.

Re:Don't use made up words (1)

Macthorpe (960048) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028634)

Step 8: Someone does a stupid step-by-step post explaining "shit everyone knows except that one guy" in a patronising fashion ;)

I do sort of agree with him. Virii is at the very least bad English, and absolutely bloody awful Latin. I am semi-reliably informed that if you're talking about Virii, you're more likely to be talking about lots and lots of men. Admittedly, for about 40% of the world, that may still be something you don't want all over your hard drive.

(I hold no responsibility for the accuracy of second-hand information - any corrections are welcome)

Re:Don't use made up words (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34027864)

Are you sure about that?

I think my Windows boxen got hit with virii.

Re:Don't use made up words (1)

Dishevel (1105119) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028104)

I think my Windoze boxen got hit with virii.

FTFY

Re:Don't use made up words (4, Informative)

zorg50 (581726) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027876)

On top of that, every sentence in the summary contains at least one grammatical error.

Re:Don't use made up words (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34027908)

"Virii" as plural for "computer virus" has been in use for at least the last 12 years. I recall downloading various examples of "virii" for DOS. They were generally .COM infectors; for instance, TINY143, if memory serves, was a simple (and tiny) example that I came across while learning about writing such programs.

It's a word, just one used by nerdy teenagers that want to be cool.

Re:Don't use made up words (2, Informative)

totallynotthesameguy (1929248) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028116)

More specifically: .COM infectors we super easy to write because they didn't have a huge header to deal with (like .exes did): code started at address 0x0100 and that's all. At least that's how I recall it.

So an infector just loaded up a .COM file, changed 0x0100 so it was a jump to the end of the .COM file, and then appended the entire infector's code to the end of the .COM file. Finally, you append the very first instruction you overwrote, and a jump back to the beginning. And that's it, now the .COM is itself an infector. To not be obvious your infector should only infect a few .COMs at a time, otherwise your 486 would slow to a crawl hunting up files to infect.

Of course, you could get more interesting (terminate and stay resident, more aggressively self-modifying code, etc), but that was the simplest virus I remember seeing.

Re:Don't use made up words (4, Insightful)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027944)

there is no such word as 'virii'.

Forsooth, dear sir! Thou hast yon goode pointe! Tounges be set upon stone, which hitherto is why Middle English is spake by e'ry gentleman today!

Which is to say, languages change. The summary used "virii,"we all knew what it meant, and it passes the "doesn't annoy me" test. So by my standards, it is a word despite what you and Webster's might say.

Re:Don't use made up words (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34028124)

Which is to say, languages change. The summary used "virii,"we all knew what it meant, and it passes the "doesn't annoy me" test. So by my standards, it is a word despite what you and Webster's might say.

But "piracy" and "steal", however, those ARE set in stone, else we wouldn't have technicalities about which we can impotently bitch whenever the **AA bring them up, right?

Re:Don't use made up words (2, Insightful)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028186)

> ...it passes the "doesn't annoy me" test.

Speak for yourself.

Re:Don't use made up words (0, Flamebait)

JxcelDolghmQ (1827432) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028428)

Go kill yourself. Faggots like you are destroying my language, not evolving it.

Re:Don't use made up words (1)

MrMista_B (891430) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028006)

'Internet' is a made up word. You think we shouldn't use that, too?

Re:Don't use made up words (1)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028228)

Neologisms are normal in english. All, however, are not created equal. Every made up word does not deserve to become an acknowledged part of the language.

Re:Don't use made up words (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028572)

Neologisms are accepted in english. Not all, however, are created equal. Not every made up word deserves to become an acknowledged part of the language, IMO.

FTFY

Re:Don't use made up words (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34028114)

Correct. There would have had to have been a "virius" first...and there is no such word...

All words were made up!!! (2, Interesting)

Medievalist (16032) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028382)

In before everyone else: there is no such word as 'virii'.

Yes, because pedantry and slavish worship of Tom Christiansen [linuxmafia.com] is more important than providing a search-engine friendly way to distinguish between biological viruses and computer virii .

When did computer geeks become completely incapable of basic logic?

We spelled it byte and not bite for goddamned reason, you know.

I'll get modded flamebait, I suppose. Here's a translation for people who can't understand that a separate concept is best delineated by a separate word.

Marklar, because marklar and marklar marklar of Marklar [wikipedia.org] is more marklar than providing a marklar marklar marklar to distinguish between marklar and marklar .

Re:Don't use made up words (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34029300)

Sorry...you're wrong on the existence of the word virii...just because you use a crappy American language dictionary does not mean that the complete English language is held within...see OXFORD'S...

And now for some swift justice (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34027704)

If we can prove beyond reasonable doubt that he is indeed the mastermind behind all this, I say we make a spectacle of him.

Hang him, and broadcast it on all networks at prime time. Have his remains rot at the rope for a few weeks, with daily updates on the news.

Perhaps that would deter others. This has got to stop.

Re:And now for some swift justice (1)

h00manist (800926) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027898)

If we can prove beyond reasonable doubt that he is indeed the mastermind behind all this, I say we make a spectacle of him.

Hang him, and broadcast it on all networks at prime time. Have his remains rot at the rope for a few weeks, with daily updates on the news.

You only get such honors if you do horrible things, like scare people with smoke [cbsnews.com] , and can be associated to a region that sits strategically near vast oil fields or other military goals. Actually sabotaging computers at most earns you one minute on one evening of news, some jail time, if you can wring it, perhaps of recognition and sympathy and a good job afterwards.

Re:And now for some swift justice (1)

choongiri (840652) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028060)

I don't know where you live, but I'm glad to live in a country with a (mostly) functional judicial system rather than vigilantism.

Re:And now for some swift justice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34028592)

I'm not advocating vigilantism, but hanging by the state.

I used to think capital punishment was wrong, but I don't anymore. Seen to many crap from my fellow humans.

The botmaster knew that he was going to shit on hundreds of thousands of his fellow man. In my book that makes him someone I don't want in my community. So, let the state string him up and be done with it.

Viruses, not virii (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34027714)

virus (noun)
plural viruses

Source: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/virus

Re:Viruses, not virii (0, Offtopic)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027832)

Lulz. One dictionary, and not a very deep one at that.

Dutch ahead of the game... (3, Funny)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027740)

"Infected machines remain pox-ridden but the command system associated with the cybercrime network has been decapitated, following an operation led by hi-tech police in The Netherlands."

I would say the Dutch police are getting ahead of the cyber-criminals.
That guy should know that botnets are not the way to get ahead in life.
It's a shame he wasn't more headstrong, he'll never be the head of a major corporation.

Re:Dutch ahead of the game... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34028556)

It saddens me that such horrible puns have gone unnoticed by the mods.

Treating of symptoms (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34027794)

Dutch news is bringing this as if the police has taken down the whole botnet while in fact they've only taken down the servers that were controlling it. I'm not surprised if the botnet is already up and running again, controlled from a new location.

Re:Treating of symptoms (1)

Teun (17872) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028050)

What I heard (from a police spoke person) is they identified the infected/ affected computers and are going to notify their users.

Something that might work in parts of the world...

Re:Treating of symptoms (2, Insightful)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028602)

I'm not surprised if the botnet is already up and running again, controlled from a new location.

I would be pretty surprised, seeing as how the controller is in custody.

Is The Source Code Available (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34027796)

for educational purposes only?

Yours In Osh,
Kilgore Trout

What Operating System on those 30million PCs? (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34027830)

Thats what I thought. Dumpster Bill and Chair-thrower should be right behind this guy on the chain-gang.

Re:What Operating System on those 30million PCs? (3, Insightful)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027896)

Don't forget, half the problem is between the keyboard and the chair. If you don't recognize an attachment from an untrusted e-mail source. Do NOT open it!

Re:What Operating System on those 30million PCs? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34028018)

That is a majority of the issue. However there is also the driveby website worms these days too. So you go to your favorite site which has been infected. Now you are... This has happened to many people I know. It is a fairly common way these days to pick something up. Yes the email vector is still popular. But this one is also effective.

Re:What Operating System on those 30million PCs? (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 3 years ago | (#34029286)

That's the other half, the OS. But yes, DNS injection will redirect valid host names to sites hosting Fake Anti-Virus warnings and infecting machines. Specifically Windows...and Java...and Flash, and Acrobat.....

All all too familiar with that game.

Re:What Operating System on those 30million PCs? (1)

blackfrancis75 (911664) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028588)

unless you're on *nix

Re:What Operating System on those 30million PCs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34028966)

Operating system doesn't matter. Plenty of holes in all of them, even Linux (the one I use). The only thing that saves Linux and Mac is laziness of people. Laziness of the malware creators *and* the people still using Windows XP without patching it. Old malware works, so why build new one?

Eventually new malware will surface that will take over your iOS on the iPhone and the iPad - plenty of holes in that thing (see jail break by visiting a website FFS!! - that's a remote root! :), old OS X and users of Flash. But that's the tip of the iceberg.

Moral question (2, Interesting)

Capt.DrumkenBum (1173011) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027854)

If I created a botnet, then used it to force all the computers to run Folding@Home. Would I still be evil?

Re:Moral question (1)

snspdaarf (1314399) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027972)

More of a chaotic-neutral than strictly evil.

Re:Moral question (1)

erenare (1473639) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028370)

In my campaign world (first edition AD&D, yup, get off my lawn!) he would qualify as Chaotic Good (his cause can be perceived as a good one after all!)

Re:Moral question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34027986)

Yes. It's not your electricity and internet bill.

Re:Moral question (1)

Rary (566291) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028004)

If I created a botnet, then used it to force all the computers to run Folding@Home. Would I still be evil?

Yes.

It's my computer, not yours. Keep your frickin' hands off of it.

Re:Moral question (1)

Coren22 (1625475) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028034)

Someone was arrested for doing this on government machines, with permission, a couple years ago if I remember correctly.

Re:Moral question (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028298)

Interestingly, while we intend legal systems to separate good and evil, they're generally written with amoral language.

So while you may not be evil, you would be culpable, liable, criminal, sociopathic, and guilty.

Re:Moral question (1)

Capt.DrumkenBum (1173011) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028604)

So while you may not be evil, you would be culpable, liable, criminal, sociopathic, and guilty.

You just listed all my best qualities.

Re:Moral question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34028706)

Fuck that - create a botnet, then order every machine to format itself once you've got 10 million machines or so. Would simultaneously remind users to stop opening attachments, stop running insecure machines without firewalls, AND to stop running without a backup...

Re:Moral question (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#34029068)

If I created a botnet, then used it to force all the computers to run Folding@Home. Would I still be evil?

Yes.

Virii (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34027872)

The only acceptable spelling for the plural of virus is viruses.

Infamous (1)

nog_lorp (896553) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027922)

Seems like a new infamous 30million host botnet pops up every day.

It's spelled "viruses". (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34027924)

Words are not made plural by adding two letter "i"s. Doing that makes you look really ignorant.

Re:It's sometimes spelled "viruses". (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028336)

Most words are not made plural by changing "us" to two "i"s. Doing that makes you look really ignorant only to people who are really ignorant of linguistics.

FTFY

Just once... (1)

bsandersen (835481) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027940)

... I would like to hear about how some brilliant hacker took control of 3 million computers and used to all that computing power to, say, find a cure for cancer instead of just pissing everybody off.

Re:Just once... (2, Funny)

FranckMartin (1899408) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027994)

..no they looked for ET!

Re:Just once... (1)

jonescb (1888008) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028036)

There isn't as much money in doing that than renting your botnet out to spammers and 13 year olds who want to DDoS a forum they got banned from.

Capital Punishment!... Really!... Read On... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34027950)

Here's the deal. Back in the old west, horse staling was a capital crime. You didn't even need to be a real law enforcement officer to string someone up for stealing a horse!

Why was that? We don't knock off every car thief today, so why such harsh tratment for horse thieves? Two simple factors:

1. Horses were HUGELY important to the old west economy!

2. Stealing a horse is REALLY easy!

So... They made stealing a horse a capital crime as a strong deterrent to protect the business model from an otherwise trivial act.

See any Paralells???... The only way to deter hacking is to make the punishment much more severe than it is now. I'm not saying firing squad is the way to go for this guy, but something really bad.

Any Suggestions???

Re:Capital Punishment!... Really!... Read On... (2, Funny)

germansausage (682057) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028514)

Hamstring him, dip him in gravy and drop him in a pit filled with starving chihuahuas. Of course if he were a SPAMMER we would need to consider something harsh.

Re:Capital Punishment!... Really!... Read On... (1)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 3 years ago | (#34029028)

Any Suggestions???

Yes, the Firing Squad.

Re:Capital Punishment!... Really!... Read On... (1)

spiedrazer (555388) | more than 3 years ago | (#34029270)

Here Here... String 'em up I say!

One Down... (1)

FranckMartin (1899408) | more than 3 years ago | (#34027984)

...Many more to go

Fix the Whois!

Authorities inform involved computer users (2, Interesting)

Jantastic (196238) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028030)

What's new (for me at least), is that the authorities informed over 100,000 computer users of their infection/participation via an ISP by redirecting them to a warning published here [nationale-recherche.nl] by the dutch police. Not sure if that's common policy or something we'll see more often.

Re:Authorities inform involved computer users (1)

sxedog (824351) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028980)

Doesn't it seem odd that we tell users: "NEVER click on a link from an unknown source." and yet that is exactly what this warning is telling us.

I get that they are trying to warn the users but it seems ironic that they are saying " you are infected. click here to find out more." that is probably what got the user in trouble in the first place.

Not saying I have a better solution... I have no idea but I guess something is better than nothing.

Spelling error my dear watson (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34028038)

Not High Crime, but Team High Tech Crime.

Yes, mod me down or delete the comment after the spellerror has been corrected please.

In other news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34028058)

4chan reports 30 million members suddenly went inactive and operation payback has slowed to a crawl...

THC? (1)

ewhenn (647989) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028354)

From reading the summary I found it mildly amusing that the "Team High Crime" that found this botnet was in the Netherlands, with the agency abreviated to THC.

Put This Guy Away So Long... (3, Insightful)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 3 years ago | (#34028976)

Bot-herders are a sub-species of lowlife scum humanity that could all disappear overnight and not be missed at all tomorrow.

This guy should be locked away until the day computers become so smart that none of them will cooperate with him anymore.

Police took control of the botnet (1)

houghi (78078) | more than 3 years ago | (#34029136)

People infected are forwarded to the following page: http://teamhightechcrime.nationale-recherche.nl/nl_infected.php [nationale-recherche.nl]
I think this is the right thing to do. And if it is not legal, it should be made into the law.

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