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338 comments

I would've been first but... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34030878)

Bad command or file name.

Re:I would've been first but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031254)

"linux is just DOS with a UNIX like syntax" -- Galactic Dominator (944134)

Re:I would've been first but... (1)

seven of five (578993) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031500)

abort, retry, fail?

Re:I would've been first but... (1)

Kryptonian Jor-El (970056) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031604)

Ignore

Tragic (1)

defensor1 (1407079) | more than 3 years ago | (#34030886)

But if you want to play Tiefighter, you really should use keyboard/joystick.

Why emulate Denial of Service? (4, Funny)

Orga (1720130) | more than 3 years ago | (#34030892)

Aren't most iPhones still on AT&T? I'm not sure why you'd need to emulate no service.

Well, duh. (4, Informative)

pclminion (145572) | more than 3 years ago | (#34030894)

Duh. By emulating DOS, you allow the user to run any DOS program they want. In other words, you make the device programmable. That's a no-no on the App store.

Re:Well, duh. (2, Insightful)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 3 years ago | (#34030958)

So why did it get approved in the first place?

Re:Well, duh. (3, Insightful)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031028)

So why did it get approved in the first place?

Because most of the people in charge of doing approvals are too young to remember what DOS is. ;->

Re:Well, duh. (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031038)

The reviewer probably thought it was a gimmick that just emulated the experience of DOS... Kinda like a "blue screen" screensaver or whatever.

Re:Well, duh. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031504)

DOS had a "black screen of death", dammit!

Lets change the title to: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031014)

Despite 20 years of criticism, Apple still makes sure that nobody can run a batch file.

Re:Lets change the title to: (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031342)

And for that, we thank them...

Re:Lets change the title to: (1)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031578)

And for that, we thank them...

Some of us who weren't raised upon and thoroughly steeped in an overcomplicated GUI find that batch files, and scripting in general, very useful indeed.

Re:Lets change the title to: (0, Offtopic)

Dr. Zim (21278) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031622)

that's why Steve create Apple-Script and all sort of applications have exposed hooks so that users can script things that just ain't gonna happen in the other camp.

Re:Lets change the title to: (2, Funny)

Bassman59 (519820) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031760)

Despite 20 years of criticism, Apple still makes sure that nobody can run a batch file.

Why run a batch file when you can run a proper shell script?

Re:Lets change the title to: (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031888)

Why run a batch file when you can run a proper shell script?

Because they're the same thing. For example, Windows Command Prompt is what UNIX users would call a "shell", and its scripts are text files with names ending in .bat.

Re:Well, duh. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031018)

Are there any console emulators for the iPhone? If so, just code applications for the Genesis or SNES (but with RTC speeds). Ya, that would get taken down too. Never mind.

Re:Well, duh. (2, Insightful)

drcheap (1897540) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031468)

Are there any console emulators for the iPhone?

Yes, quite a few. My personal favorite is the NES emulator which lets me use a WiiMote as the controller via bluetooth.

Of course, this is all in the jailbroken realm, which is exactly where I suspect to this "removed" app will appear appear next.

>eagerly awaits to fire up QBasic for some sweet bananna-over-building-tossing action<

Re:Well, duh. (1)

robmv (855035) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031406)

That or because it is based on dosbox, that is GPL licensed, and we already know that Apple App Store and GPL does not mix [fsf.org]

Re:Well, duh. (1)

schnikies79 (788746) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031598)

VLC [apple.com] would disagree with that.

Re:Well, duh. (4, Insightful)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031630)

The App Store has no problem with Battle for Wesnoth as a GPL app. Apple doesn't have a problem with the GPL. The FSF has a problem with Apple.

Re:Well, duh. (2, Interesting)

rsmith-mac (639075) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031476)

Except that Apple allows programmable emulators [engadget.com] as of last month, when they approved the C64 emulator with BASIC support. But hey, don't let that get in the way of a righteous story.

Re:Well, duh. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031668)

Unless things have changed in the last week that C64 emulator doesn't have any way to save the programs on it.

Re:Well, duh. (1)

thedonger (1317951) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031692)

Bastards! I was getting stoked for some Microsoft Decathlon action...I used to be the fastest "greater than" symbol in the 400 meter dash.

reason why: (1)

Tmack (593755) | more than 3 years ago | (#34030898)

It was pc/ms-dos, not ProDOS -T

Re:reason why: (1)

pentalive (449155) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031262)

Heh... they have nixed a commodore 64 emulator, and an MSDOS emulator - quick someone whip up an Apple II emulator for them to nix.

Re:reason why: (1)

Imagix (695350) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031386)

Wow... somebody else that remembers ProDOS.... how about the various incarnations of GS/OS ? ProDOS 16?

Re:reason why: (2, Interesting)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031762)

I'm still ticked that Produs 8 was phased out for Prodos 16. I believe one of the Ultimas used a custom version of Produs 8.

Sad that (Apple) Dos 3.3 had 30 character filenames in 1979, (Prodos 8 had 15 character filenames AND sub-directories in 1983), yet MS-DOS was stuck in asinine 8.3 mode for 12 years from 1983.

frankly my dear... (1)

Lead Butthead (321013) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031746)

It's unlikely most Apple employees today even know what an Apple II is (is that some kind of Mac?) much less DOS 3.2/3 or ProDOS/8. I hesitate to even think if they know the difference between 13 and 16 sector disks.

Newsworthy? (-1)

Dryanta (978861) | more than 3 years ago | (#34030900)

And this is newsworthy.... how? DOS is still Microsoft's property, regardless of how thoroughly reverse engineered it has become. This is like dedicating an article to YouTube making a video unavailable because a record label said take it down.

Re:Newsworthy? (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 3 years ago | (#34030996)

It could have been based on FreeDOS.

Re:Newsworthy? (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031006)

It wasn't taken down at MS's request.

Re:Newsworthy? (2, Informative)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031022)

Yeah, and the BIOS is IBM's property which is why you can only buy IBM-made PCs....

Re:Newsworthy? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031046)

Dosbox is to MS Dos as VisualBoyAdvance is to people walking around handing out free Gameboys.

There's also a FreeDOS implementation which is an actual OS and not just an emulator, which also isn't Microsoft's property.

id Software and Activision have distributed Dosbox in the past without permission from Microsoft.

Kindly cease and desist your baseless claims.

Re:Newsworthy? (1)

sa1lnr (669048) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031056)

MS-DOS is still Microsoft's property, Microsoft weren't the only Disk Operating System in town, just the most successful.

Re:Newsworthy? (1)

Haxamanish (1564673) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031120)

And this is newsworthy.... how? DOS is still Microsoft's property, regardless of how thoroughly reverse engineered it has become. This is like dedicating an article to YouTube making a video unavailable because a record label said take it down.

MS/DOS is Microsoft's "property" (stolen property btw, but that's another story), DOSBox is not. But this is not what this is about: iDOS was taken away not because it would infringe on Microsoft, but probably because it would turn the non-jailbroken iPhone/iTab into a programmable device.

Re:Newsworthy? (4, Informative)

NotQuiteInsane (981960) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031178)

DOSBox is a reverse-engineered re-implementation of the PC BIOS (int13h et al) and DOS APIs (int21h et al) and the x86 CPU. There's no Microsoft, Digital Research, IBM or whatever code in there. At all.

Re:Newsworthy? (1)

Barefoot Monkey (1657313) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031204)

And this is newsworthy.... how? DOS is still Microsoft's property, regardless of how thoroughly reverse engineered it has become. This is like dedicating an article to YouTube making a video unavailable because a record label said take it down.

Well, MS-DOS is Microsoft's property. DOS in general is, surprisingly enough, something that Microsoft doesn't have all that much control over other than through their own implementation. DOSBox is in the clear from that angle.

My guess is that it was rejected because DOSBox is a user-programmable platform like Flash, so it breaks the walled-garden paradigm that Apple works hard to maintain.

Re:Newsworthy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031248)

DOS is still Microsoft's property, regardless of how thoroughly reverse engineered it has become.

The actual code for MS-DOS /may/ be property of Microsoft (caveat: Microsoft only /licenced/ DOS from Seattle Microcomputer Products; they did not buy all rights to the code), but that doesn't mean that DosBox /used/ the code. The competing DR-DOS has been released with a very liberal licence, and is used in many places that MSDOS might have been used. In any case, Microsoft has no rights to the "concept" of DOS; they only own /an implementation/ of that concept.

This is like dedicating an article to YouTube making a video unavailable because a record label said take it down.

Nonsense. Microsoft /can't/ tell Apple to take down Dosbox, 'cause Microsoft has no rights to Dosbox. Apple took the app down for their own reasons.

Re:Newsworthy? (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031672)

Not quite, but they'd have to make a convincing argument that the name Dosbox infringes on their trademark. Which I don't think they can do to the relevant legal standard otherwise they would've done so a long time ago.

This proves the previous story... (2, Informative)

copponex (13876) | more than 3 years ago | (#34030926)

Apple [slashdot.org] leans very far to the left.

Re:This proves the previous story... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031082)

Apple [slashdot.org] leans very far to the left.

Way to state the obvious. That's like saying "the sky is up." Obviously true, unless you're upside-down, in which case the sky is down and Apple leans right.

Like the MUSLIM president? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031236)

2 years, 1 week...

Re:This proves the previous story... (2, Insightful)

Ardaen (1099611) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031366)

Is that to the left? When it comes to totalitarians I have trouble telling the difference between the far left and far right.

Re:This proves the previous story... (2, Insightful)

dave562 (969951) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031566)

That's because as you get further away from the center, the far left and far right tend to lean toward each other. It ends up looking more a horseshoe than a V.

Re:This proves the previous story... (1)

fishbowl (7759) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031572)

The "left right" continuum is itself variable. It does not have anything resembling a fixed point of reference. That's actually the reason it's such a popular idiom for political discussions, because nothing that is measured by it, can be applied to anything else. The same criteria that are "left" of one opponent may be "right" of another opponent with the same ideas.

Re:This proves the previous story... (4, Informative)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031594)

That's because in the US it's considered acceptable to accuse a politician of being both fascist and socialist at the same time. Both sides when you get far enough are completely nuts, but try comparing Naziism with Soviet Communism. The difference is significant.

Re:This proves the previous story... (1)

shoehornjob (1632387) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031442)

Apple [slashdot.org] leans very far to the left

Seems like the lean far right when it comes to controlling what their users can and can't do. In fact maybe just a little right of draconian.

Re:This proves the previous story... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031534)

Apple [slashdot.org] leans very far to the left.

At the same time, they expect their customers to lean forward. Or is it to bend over?

Re:This proves the previous story... (1, Funny)

interval1066 (668936) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031552)

Chomsky is a dick.

News? (1, Troll)

whisper_jeff (680366) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031008)

Ok, seriously, how is this news now? Apple has published their review guidelines and something like this clearly doesn't pass the test so why is this news? Is it news because someone made a mistake and it managed to slip through because it sure as hell isn't news that it was pulled.

Oh. I see. It's news because it's another example of Apple's walled garden keeping apps out of the App Store.

Here's a secret people - that's not news either. We already know that Apple periodically does not allow apps into the App Store. The reasons for this happening are often very obvious because they've published their approval guidelines.

Seriously. Not news.

Re:News? (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031144)

Its a nice to have thing which is being blocked for no particular reason.

Re:News? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031418)

Its a nice to have thing which is being blocked for no particular reason.

Wrong. It was blocked because Apple's terms were being violated, as it allowed outside code to be run.

Now, if you were to say it was being blocked for no GOOD reason, then you'd have an excellent point.

Re:News? (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031524)

Okay its being blocked for no good reason.

Re:News? (1)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031160)

... and if you want the ability run whatever you like then go with an Android based platform.

Re:News? (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031682)

To be honest, I'm a bit curious as to why anybody would want to use dosbox on their cell phone. Most of the apps and games I can think of have either been reimplemented already or aren't particularly well suited to the format.

Re:News? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031772)

I have a very good personal finance program done in clipper summer 87 that is serving me good since decades that I don't want to port to stupid nth generation bloated languages. Do you mind if I do what I what with something I paid and now belongs to me?

What happened to rational apple fanbois?? (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031292)

Does SJ release one puppet after another on all Apple related stories? I know /. has definitive apple slant, but lately, we have been flooded with zombie moron fanbois like above. At least earlier version were more rational while arguing in favor of apple.

Or perhaps this is sign of changing times - more and more dumb people are using apple products and we are just slowly seeing the effect here now?

Re:News? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031574)

True, not news. However, it's better to point out their miserable business practices as often as possible. There may still be a chance that consumers will wake up and simply stop buying their products until they change them. Unfortunately I lost faith, we'll have to wait until they make something wrong with iTunes, and anti-trust destroy them, or until they loose the current strong leadership, and fall back into oblivion.

And no, it's not as simple as not buying it if you don't like it. They are setting precedents, they are forging new waves of passive, idiot consumers that will accept anything. Pretty much as the TV broadcasters managed to make consumers pay for the privilege to see advertisements; or pretty much as the media lobbies that managed to force you to see 10 minutes of anti-piracy warnings and trailers before actually being able to see a DVD you regularly purchased; or pretty much as Amazon with DRM on eBooks; and the list goes on, and on, and on.

Seriously: don't you think that when Playboy publishes their magazine without nude pictures everything is wrong? Starting with Apple that tries to control the content (I take care of my family thanks), continuing with Playboy that bend themselves to the point of being ridiculous and ending with the final consumer being so stupid to pay for the absence of content.

Apple knows better what it's good for you. Sure, especially if you are dumb and prepared to bend over.

Again, yes no news. Apple is lame and fanboys are arounddefending guidelines

Yup (1)

Superken7 (893292) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031020)

Nothing new there, for better or worse the appstore is ruled under dictatorship-like rules. Apple's rules.

The publishing of the emulator was obviously an unfortunate mistake from someone at apple, since they would be getting lots of request from other emulator writers who previously got their app rejected.

For example, the famous psx emulator writer tweeted the following just a couple hours ago: http://twitter.com/#!/zodttd/status/28814884233 [twitter.com] followed by http://twitter.com/#!/zodttd/status/28817744190 [twitter.com]

Re:Yup (5, Insightful)

harrkev (623093) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031104)

Really, are they so threatened by a 30-year-old operating system that they have to kill it?

This is the ONE reason that I hate Apple. Wonderful hardware, great software, management needs to be shot. I am a geek. If somebody arbitrarily decrees that certain classes of software WILL NOT be allowed on a platform, I arbitrarily decree that they get absolutely none of my money.

If Apple would have a change of heart about such things, I would be their biggest fan. As it is, I am their worst foe.

Re:Yup (3, Insightful)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031212)

Really, are they so threatened by a 30-year-old operating system that they have to kill it?

Anything that would allow a user to run a non-Apple-approved program, anything at all, even a DOS emulator, is against the rules. After all, the users might start thinking that they have some kind of right to run software that was not approved, and next thing you know, they'll be wanting to write programs without paying the fee, or worse yet, they might start wanting to use libre software! None of this, of course, is allowable in Steve Jobs' world, where people are just sheep who are in desperate need of a shepherd.

Remember, the Apple ideology is that people should not have any desire to hack their systems; they should simply use them, and rely on Apple to take care of technical details. This has been the case for a very long time now, and as long as Steve Jobs is in charge, you can bet that there won't be any change.

Re:Yup (1)

shellbeach (610559) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031752)

Remember, the Apple ideology is that people should not have any desire to hack their systems; they should simply use them, and rely on Apple to take care of technical details. This has been the case for a very long time now, and as long as Steve Jobs is in charge, you can bet that there won't be any change.

To be fair, although it's Apple's fault for promoting this idea in the first place, the idiotic masses have lapped the idea up and claim to love it.

Personally, I'm wondering why the app developers even tried to release this emulator in the App Store. I'd imagine that anyone who'd want to use this would be geeky enough to have a jailbroken iphone, so why not just release it in Cydia? As an added bonus, if they wanted to charge for it, they'd be much less likely to have the app pirated if they released it through the Cydia Store (since piracy of Cydia apps is much harder).

Re:Yup (1)

adisakp (705706) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031852)

Remember, the Apple ideology is that people [...] should simply use [their systems], and rely on Apple to take care of technical details. This has been the case for a very long time now, and as long as Steve Jobs is in charge, you can bet that there won't be any change.

And as long as this remains the case for the general public, Apple will remain phenomenally successful.

Re:Yup (1)

joh (27088) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031972)

Remember, the Apple ideology is that people should not have any desire to hack their systems; they should simply use them, and rely on Apple to take care of technical details. This has been the case for a very long time now, and as long as Steve Jobs is in charge, you can bet that there won't be any change.

Come on, this is not an ideology, it's just a product philosophy and a design principle. The iThings are meant to be used, not to be hacked. And while I'm a geek I'm very happy about these things. Something that doesn't require to be hacked and that doesn't need to be hacked and where even someone is actively taking away any temptation for me to waste my time on it is a nice change now and then.

Some people really should grow up. I love to have an device that keeps me from tinkering with it. I have more than enough other things to tinker with. Too many, actually. There's no lack of computers to fiddle with, really.

Re:Yup (1, Troll)

Tildedot (137711) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031484)

Great message! Good tone. A solid effort, and I agree wholeheartedly!
Not enough people use "decree", I think.

Still, as I read it to our guys in the breakroom, none of us much care for the closer:
"As it is, I am their worst foe"

Something missing, there. It lacks Zing.
Also, it makes it sound like you're a FOE, just not a very effective one.

How about these for your next post?

As it is,
"...I am their most strident foe!" -- sounds more opposed, I think.
"...I am their worst nightmare!" -- works well if you're Stallone, or the Governator.
"...I am diametrically opposed, sir, to their ruinous machinations!" -- 8^0
"...They will utterly rue the day!!!" -- Rue-age is always fun.
"...They lost me when the Mac wouldn't support Apple II 6502 binaries" -- too Old School?

And, our favorite:
"...They are dead to me." -- Nice, short, kinda "Goodfellows" like. :^)

Re:Yup (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031512)

It could be more than just the fact that it was running DOS, from what I read it was running Windows 3.0. Its possible it was pulled so Apple wouldn't have to worry about getting sued by Microsoft for running an unlicensed copy of Windows.

Re:Yup (1)

the_humeister (922869) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031642)

Easily solved: do your emulating in javascript! I'll get you started. Here's an Apple BASIC interpretor [calormen.com] in javascript. Here's a C64 emulator [kingsquare.nl] in javascript. And here's an NES emulator [benfirshman.com] in javascript!

Re:Yup (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031688)

If Apple would have a change of heart about such things, I would be their biggest fan. As it is, I am their worst foe.

They say that a company's greatness can be measured by its enemies. Apparently, Apple isn't all that great.

Re:Yup (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031728)

As it is, I am their worst foe.

Ballmer?!

Re:Yup (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031796)

So I guess you don't give any technology company any money then, because they all do this in one form or fashion.

Oh wait, you do? Yea, that's what I thought. I'm not a fanboy, but you sir, are a hater.

Problem was it is open source (1, Insightful)

zonker (1158) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031030)

I believe Apple's terms still specify you can't use code that is publicly source licensed, which this program is a derivative work of DOSBox. Additionally the company would have to release their own source to the app under the GPL to be in compliance with the GPL terms. So there you have it...

GPL3 (4, Informative)

CritterNYC (190163) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031174)

It's actually GPL3 code that can't be used in any apps for the iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad due to the anti-Tivoization clauses in GPL3 and the completely locked down nature of iOS and the app store.

Re:Problem was it is open source (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031184)

No, the problem is that it would make the i$thing user programmable. This is why any and all emulators are banned.

Re:Problem was it is open source (1)

pantherace (165052) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031868)

But my iPaq is programmable!

Re:Problem was it is open source (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031252)

Not quite. VLC is GNU and is the on the app store.

Re:Problem was it is open source (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031350)

Mhmmm... I just don't think anyone has noticed yet...

not careing (0, Redundant)

luther349 (645380) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031080)

point less story. we all know to get are emus like dosbox nes snes etc we go to cydia. who doesn't have a jailbroken i device these days.

Re:not careing (1)

drcheap (1897540) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031560)

point less story. we all know to get are emus like dosbox nes snes etc we go to cydia. who doesn't have a jailbroken i device these days.

Steve Jobs

And maybe your Aunt Myrtle, but that's only because she can't figure out how to get past the Slide to Unlock thing.

It's available for Android (5, Informative)

LodCrappo (705968) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031084)

As "aDosBox".. http://androiddosbox.appspot.com/ [appspot.com]

Re:It's available for Android (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031828)

I've reached that weird point in technology where I realize that I can run my old modem software... on my phone.

I also realized that my 90 year-old grandparents use videophone, whereas my younger sister does most of her communicating via text message, which my grandparents referred to as a "telegraph" and abandoned in favor of radio. =)

No surprise (0, Redundant)

lwsimon (724555) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031094)

Why is this news? It isn't the first time it's happened.

Interpreted Code Is Not Allowed (1)

CritterNYC (190163) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031150)

Apps that use interpreted code are not permitted in the app store. This is the same reason that no full browsers other than Safari are allowed on iPhones (Opera Mini has to use a server to interpret Javascript to get around this). iDOS's original approval was a mistake. It won't be admitted to the app store under the current policy.

Re:Interpreted Code Is Not Allowed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031444)

That's not really true. The problem was that the emulator was itself a software development platform, not that the code was interpreted.

For example you can write your game in Lua, but you can't write a springboard replacement that lets users download apps.

Ok Ok We get it (1)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031244)

Allright we get it. Apple is a horrible company which strictly controls what happens in its app stores.

I wonder why people still waste a lot of time developing for it (stuff they know that will break the rules), or developing it at all.

I also wonder why people still buy apple products if they are so horrible.

The tone of this post (sarcastic, questioning, forceful?) is left up to your imagination.

Re:Ok Ok We get it (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031636)

Money. But unless Apple loosens up quite a bit you're almost certainly going to start seeing a steady stream of developers focusing on other platforms and possibly porting or otherwise bringing their code to the iPhone last.

Previously it wasn't as much of an issue because the only serious competition was Blackberry,and I'm not sure that a lot of those apps would've worked on a Blackberry.

but... but... but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031274)

Apple is the only truly innovative tech company out there!!!

It could be the "arbitrary code" clause but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031398)

It also lets you mount the root of the iOS filesystem inside it and poke around ("mount d /"). It's likely read-only (as I would expect / to be mounted read-only on the device itself), but you can still get in there and copy stuff to a location that you can get to it from another app (or maybe even iTunes). You probably can write to anywhere you want in the userland portion of the filesystem, but I haven't tried.

Who cares?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031414)

There needs to be a category for rejected iphone apps. Or at least stop posting all the same stories. App X got rejected because it emulates Y. Which right now I have a hard time believing these "developers" didn't already know they were going to get rejected, this is starting to just be a way of advertising for some app you otherwise would of never heard of. The iphone is not an open environment, and what's that? There's an alternative? ANDROID you say? If you all stop complaining about how closed the iphone is and start developing apps for Andriod, the Iphone would die a hurried death, but for some reason that doesn't happen. instead Apple is even trying to take it a step further and do the same thing on the desktop... Either abide by Uncle Steve's rules or take your code and go elsewhere, but stop acting like you didn't already understand what was going on when Uncle Steve took your ball away.

Is Apple so dominant? (1)

GWBasic (900357) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031452)

The words "Apple," "iPhone," and "iPod" do not appear in the summary or summary's title. Is Apple and the iPhone getting so dominant that we can just assume that "The App Store" is alway's Apple's?

Re:Is Apple so dominant? (1)

drcheap (1897540) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031610)

The words "Apple," "iPhone," and "iPod" do not appear in the summary or summary's title. Is Apple and the iPhone getting so dominant that we can just assume that "The App Store" is alway's Apple's?

Yes because it is called App Store , not Market, or Marketplace, or App World, or whatever else there is out there on other platforms.

Re:Is Apple so dominant? (1)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031726)

The article did mention iOS, so while you could have overlooked it, it did technically say what it was running on, and thus that it was Apple's App Store.

Re:Is Apple so dominant? (1)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031774)

No, but when the domain in the article's URL is apple.slashdot.org, yes, we can.

Also, when the summary refers to the iOS.

But where can I get a floppy drive for iphone? (2, Funny)

fkx (453233) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031478)

But where can I get a floppy drive for iphone?

DOS is useless without a floppy drive - 3.5 or 8 inch.

Re:But where can I get a floppy drive for iphone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031620)

DOS didn't ever have an 8 inch floppy, it started with 5 1/4 inch single sided single density drives.

Re:But where can I get a floppy drive for iphone? (1)

fkx (453233) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031770)

WRONG - IBM Displaywriter had 8 inch floppy with DOS before the PC with 5.25 even existed.

I helped port it.

Re:But where can I get a floppy drive for iphone? (1)

fkx (453233) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031862)

CPM (8 bit) existed on 8 inch drives on something I don't remember, then 16 bit DOS on that 8 inch thing, then 16 bit DOS on the PC with 5.25

Then CPM86 and some other pascal thingy I don't remember as well on the 8 inch floppy on the DW.

I could have run cygwin! (5, Interesting)

Alain Williams (2972) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031650)

If I had DOS then I could have installed an old version of cygwin [cygwin.com] and then got my favourite GNU tools working! Jobs would have had a fit it I could have done that.

I have learned my lesson (0, Flamebait)

codepunk (167897) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031964)

Any app I build in the future will be created on a droid powered device first. I have learned the hard way to shoot for the lowest performing platform first as it is nearly impossible to port the other direction.

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