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Looks Like the End of the Line For LimeWire

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the all-squeezed-out dept.

Music 277

tekgoblin writes with news that a federal judge has issued a permanent injunction against LimeWire for copyright infringement and unfair competition. A notice on the LimeWire home page says "THIS IS AN OFFICIAL NOTICE THAT LIMEWIRE IS UNDER A COURT-ORDERED INJUNCTION TO STOP DISTRIBUTING AND SUPPORTING ITS FILE-SHARING SOFTWARE. DOWNLOADING OR SHARING COPYRIGHTED CONTENT WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION IS ILLEGAL." An anonymous reader points to coverage at CNET, too.

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god damn it (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031680)

Where am I going to download my r@ygold porn?

Wait... is it still 1998???

Re:god damn it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34032070)

Apparently it's about 100 B.C.E. because Heracles second labor is going to be an epiphany for whoever brought this lawsuit.

Re:god damn it (1)

Surt (22457) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032806)

Will someone explain what r@ygold is so I don't have to look it up from work. I'm just going to go ahead and guess that that search would turn up something NSFW.

Easy fix... (2, Informative)

vistapwns (1103935) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031698)

www.emule-project.com - open source, so it can't be shut down. I guess the servers could be shut down, but it also operates with a distributed peer2peer network as back up. I've been using it for years, it has almost everything.

Re:Easy fix... (5, Informative)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031834)

The base LimeWire client is also open source, released under the GPL.

Re:Easy fix... (2, Funny)

cbiltcliffe (186293) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032934)

It's also still available from limewire.com

I'll leave it up to you to figure out how to get it. :)

Re:Easy fix... (4, Interesting)

jd (1658) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032372)

Even easier fix - if a service is "Common Carrier", it is not responsible for the content on it. That is why phone services can't be sued if someone does something illegal over them, same with the post office. (Which is one big reason it's Bad Juju for ISPs to differentiate between users. If they aren't Common Carrier, they ARE liable for content. Same as newspapers or magazines are, even if the author of an article isn't a member of the staff. They're not Common Carriers, they select. Slashdot isn't liable for comments again because they're Common Carrier - they're not selecting who can post and everyone plays by the same rules - even though in many ways they look like a newspaper.)

In the Old Days, when people used Archie to find files, the authors of FTP and Archie weren't liable for a damn thing. Common Carriers. LimeWire is perceived (right or wrong) as not a Common Carrier. Fix that perception (if necessary by fixing the code) and the law will protect it in every country that recognizes the notion. (Which is most of them, US included.)

Re:Easy fix... (2, Informative)

Jimmy King (828214) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032732)

Perhaps I've misunderstood, but to be protected as a common carrier, don't you have to have the government classify you as one? I don't think you get to just wake up one day and say "hey, I'm a common carrier, you can't touch me! na na na na na!" once the court/feds/whoever decide they don't like what you're doing

This suggests that there are requirements for being considered a telecom common carrier including reports that have to be filed yearly, etc. - http://www.fcc.gov/wcb/filing.html [fcc.gov]

I know a lot of websites put up statements about not filtering user comments, not being liable for user comments, etc. But has that ever actually been tested in court? The closest I am aware of (and I have not researched this) would be The Pirate Bay and well, that argument hasn't exactly worked well for them. Although they were not prosecuted in the US, I suspect it would have worked no better here in the US or they'd put their servers here.

Rise (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031702)

a thousand more to take its place.

There are still non-torrent filesharing networks? (4, Insightful)

Arancaytar (966377) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031706)

Talk about a blast from the past.

Re:There are still non-torrent filesharing network (4, Interesting)

tehniobium (1042240) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032076)

Actually people should continue making shitty file sharing services and basing them in the US. That way the *IAA's of this world can feel like they're winning even as they are completely unable to do anything about torrent.

...And while you're at it, make those programs easier to use than torrent, so all the newbies make them popular and it seems like BIG NEWS when one gets whacked on the head with a hammer!

Re:There are still non-torrent filesharing network (1)

xhrit (915936) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032108)

I am astonished that anyone still uses this...

Re:There are still non-torrent filesharing network (5, Interesting)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032464)

Actually I've found it was up to this day VERY popular with the clueless. As a PC repairman I ask my fellow repairmen to bow their heads in a silent moment and give thanks to the HUGE number of viruses from the fake files on Limewire and Kazaa, which made many of us mucho money. Hell the whole thing was plumb full of "name_of_popular_song.mp3.exe" viruses that the clueless would fall for time and time again.

Re:There are still non-torrent filesharing network (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34032520)

Amen to this. Every single charity case home PC repair job I took in from one of our users had malware of some variety. And every single one of those had Limewire installed and actively used. Let us ring the village bells and partake in feast to celebrate the slaying of this most wicked beast.

Re:There are still non-torrent filesharing network (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34032964)

My favorite was the "name_of_popular_song_crack.exe". I guess they thought if they cracked the song they wouldn't get a please insert the original cd prompt when playing their mp3?

Re:There are still non-torrent filesharing network (1)

modmans2ndcoming (929661) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032224)

yeah... really

And with the advent of magnet links, no central tracker is needed, meaning no one but the search sites to sue.

Re:There are still non-torrent filesharing network (2, Interesting)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032336)

And the search sites can very well be hidden onion services... just add a Tor client to popular torrent clients and a button to launch the browser configured to use the Tor proxy, and anyone will be able to use it.

Ahh Limewire! That takes me back... (2, Insightful)

decipher_saint (72686) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031716)

Ahh Limewire! That takes me back... to the last virus I had (2003?).

I'm surprised its lasted this long frankly.

Re:Ahh Limewire! That takes me back... (2)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031736)

Indeed, I thought that pretty much everybody that was into that sort of thing had already switched over to torrents.

Re:Ahh Limewire! That takes me back... (1)

endymion.nz (1093595) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031884)

Limewire was pretty easy to use, torrents seem quite hard to figure out for a lot of people (probably not slashdot readers).

Re:Ahh Limewire! That takes me back... (2, Interesting)

Rockoon (1252108) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032166)

The advantage of P2P's like Limewire was that it did not share crappy_commercial_music.mp3 while you were downloading crappy_commercial_music.mp3, and as such you could not be fingered for the crime of distributing crappy_commercial_music.mp3 since you were in fact not distributing it.

Re:Ahh Limewire! That takes me back... (1)

modmans2ndcoming (929661) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032238)

Astraweb.com

Subscribe.... Download at blazing speeds... no sharing

Re:Ahh Limewire! That takes me back... (1)

tobiah (308208) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032516)

I find with usenet finding stuff is too hard.

Re:Ahh Limewire! That takes me back... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34032286)

Torrents are a piece of cake compared to some methods. I mean, what's so hard about double-clicking a .torrent file?

Good Riddance (3, Interesting)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031738)

I'm pretty sure that the closure of limewire will cause the amount of malware in the wild to drop dramatically.

Re:Good Riddance (3, Funny)

jnpcl (1929302) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031764)

.. but where am I going to get my Anna Kournikova XXX Screensavers?!

Re:Good Riddance (1)

Meshach (578918) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031830)

I'm pretty sure that the closure of limewire will cause the amount of malware in the wild to drop dramatically.

Reminds me of Kazaa and Kazaa Lite. They are not closed now but are subscription services. Far off from their early days when they were a hotbed of virus and trojans.

Re:Good Riddance (2, Funny)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031876)

"a hotbed of virus and trojans"

This sentence could be referring to the stuff you could download, or whatever came with the installation program itself. What a mess.

Re:Good Riddance (4, Funny)

modmans2ndcoming (929661) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032258)

I thought you guys were talking about a frat party.

Re:Good Riddance (1)

master5o1 (1068594) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032356)

It could also refer to an unfortunate sexual encounter.

Good riddance... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34031742)

Although I disagree with this whole sham, I honestly can't say that I'm sad to see LimeWire go. It is utterly ridiculous how many friend's and family's computers I have to clean due to viruses and crapware that came through LimeWire.

They're still around? (1)

the_humeister (922869) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031768)

Next you're going to tell me KaZaA hasn't shut down either.

Re:They're still around? (3, Interesting)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031910)

I'm still using iMesh and WinMX.

Re:They're still around? (2, Funny)

lanceran (1575541) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032012)

Real men still use Napster.

Re:They're still around? (2, Funny)

Joe Tie. (567096) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032088)

It better not be shut down! I mean with limewire gone, what am I going to populate the new android port of winamp with! My nostalgia must be properly formatted!

Re:They're still around? (2, Informative)

daveywest (937112) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032152)

Do you know the IP address to any good Hotline servers?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotline_Communications

Re:They're still around? (2, Funny)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032248)

IP Address? That's one of them "Internet" things isn't it?

Let me just insert this AOL cd into my drive and receive my X free hours and get online today.

Re:They're still around? (3, Funny)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032328)

With AOL, you can get the internet in your living room!

So I hope you have a really, really big living room.

Re:They're still around? (1)

Surt (22457) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032742)

Wow, that bring me back to the days when you could check out all the new sites on the internet.

Re:They're still around? (1)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032776)

Oh gee, I wonder what's new in the Internet Yellow Pages this year?

They can't distribute the client any more? (4, Funny)

guyminuslife (1349809) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031788)

If only there were some way for people who had Limewire to share the executable.

Re:They can't distribute the client any more? (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031804)

You could try connecting to Limew--d'oh!

Re:They can't distribute the client any more? (2, Informative)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031808)

Far as I know, if you take down the Limewire servers, the entire thing collapses. It isn't distributed like a torrernt network, and I'm pretty sure there's no peer discovery either.

Re:They can't distribute the client any more? (1)

guyminuslife (1349809) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031856)

Yeah, you might be able to take it down, but banning distribution of the executable is moronic.

Re:They can't distribute the client any more? (4, Informative)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031906)

Gnutella (the protocol LimeWire uses) is decentralized, but you have to "bootstrap" the client to find your first few peers. I believe LimeWire LLC operates servers to facilitate this, but it could be done any number of ways. If you had a friend whom you knew was always on LimeWire and had a static IP, you could connect to him. The client could also cache the addresses of nodes that had worked in the past, and try them. I don't know exactly how LimeWire does it, but it seems to me LimeWire's failing is that by insinuating itself between its users and the network (for the purposes of operating a business), it makes itself the single point of failure.

Re:They can't distribute the client any more? (1)

Sylak (1611137) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031956)

Limewire just added minimal servers to the Gnutella network, not created one, and Gnutella is a decrtalized network network so...

Gnutella [wikipedia.org] at wikipedia incase you were wondering

"a decrtalized network" ??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34032244)

So you need one of them newfangled LCD monitors to use it? CRTs are banned?

Re:They can't distribute the client any more? (2, Interesting)

athakur999 (44340) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031992)

Peer discovery is the very essence of the Gnutella protocol used by Gnutella. The Limewire client probably uses Limewire's servers to get an initial list of peers to connect to but beyond that, they shouldn't be needed. There are alternative methods to do this initial peer discovery as well so even if you take away Limewire's servers, things should still work fine, it just may take longer for your client to discover a decent amount of peers.

Re:They can't distribute the client any more? (2, Funny)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031890)

Yeah. There are plenty of torrents [thepiratebay.org] available! ;)

Re:They can't distribute the client any more? (0)

guyminuslife (1349809) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031948)

Yo dawg, I heard you like file-sharing, so I put a file-sharer in your file-sharer so you can file-share your file-sharing.

Well it's a good thing (4, Informative)

loafula (1080631) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031838)

That I prefer to use Frostwire.

Re:Well it's a good thing (1)

doronbc (1434117) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032670)

im surprised how few people have heard of frostwire, its been around for a while

FTP (1)

ZipprHead (106133) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031870)

Is FTP next?

Re:FTP (1)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031902)

I sincerly hope you are not trying to equate FTP and limewire.

Your metric space would have to be very broken.

Re:FTP (2, Interesting)

countSudoku() (1047544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031968)

Yes, FTP is next. ;) Not my sneakernet though. Thanks for the reminder, I need to obtain a 1TB drive for more sweet, free, sneakernet content. Really, we only need one person to buy any single piece of media, then we dist. Everyone is invited. RIP, share, enjoy. Never been to limewire.

Re:FTP (1)

Rod Beauvex (832040) | more than 3 years ago | (#34033082)

Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of data tapes.

Re:FTP (1)

AmigaHeretic (991368) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031994)

Yeah, get rid of FTP, IRC, NNTP, SMTP, then HTTP.

We'll all be back to Gopher! Reminds me of Robin Williams in Good Morning Vietnam:

"Come on now! You kick out the gooks, the next thing you know, you have to kick out the chinks, the spicks, the spooks, the kikes and all that's going to be left is a couple of brain-dead rednecks."

Re:FTP (1)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032062)

Yeah, lets get rid of acronyms. Nobody really liked them anyway.

Re:FTP (1)

kheldan (1460303) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032180)

You forgot a few: We need to get rid of TCP, UDP, DNS, and last but not least IP. After all, these protocols are also used for illegal file sharing, so they all have to go. Think of the children!

Re:FTP (1)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032400)

What, no UUCP?

Re:FTP (1)

JonySuede (1908576) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032692)

no, UUCP can stay

Re:FTP (1)

zach_the_lizard (1317619) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032796)

Yes! My CLNP connection is still good. Thanks OSI protocols!

Yay! (5, Funny)

Rix (54095) | more than 3 years ago | (#34031916)

Piracy is solved forever.

Re:Yay! (2, Funny)

SomeJoel (1061138) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032092)

It's about time. Those Somalians with AK-47s can release the hostages now. Ugly business, piracy - ships destroyed, sailors killed, lives ruined. I'm glad the government is finally doing something about protecting shipping lanes. Apparently LimeWire is some sort of service that these pirates use to track ships or something.

What about law enforcement? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34032028)

Seems they love to troll Limewire to nab people for various underage porn possession. Can't imagine them liking having the easiest honey pot in the world being shut down.

Let me fix that message... (0, Troll)

countSudoku() (1047544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032034)

[sorry, the /. filter nazi made me go LC]

this is an official notice that sneakernet is under a court-ordered injunction to keep distributing and supporting its file-sharing software. downloading or sharing copyrighted content without authorization is awesome!

CAN SOMEONE TELL THE JUDGE? (4, Funny)

martin-boundary (547041) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032048)

Can someone tell the judge to not use so many caps? It's like YELLING!

Re:CAN SOMEONE TELL THE JUDGE? (5, Funny)

tehniobium (1042240) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032106)

Lawyers understand it better that way ;-)

Re:CAN SOMEONE TELL THE JUDGE? (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032618)

Can someone tell the judge to not use so many caps?

The notice on the website refers to the a court order (written -- or, at least, approved -- by a judge), but is not itself a court order, and most likely is written by someone responsible for LimeWire's website (no doubt, on directions from one of their attorneys) after they received the order.

Re:CAN SOMEONE TELL THE JUDGE? (1)

Anne_Nonymous (313852) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032880)

Dear Defendant,

I typed this real loud, 'cause I know you don't hear so good anymore.

Love, The Judge

Re:CAN SOMEONE TELL THE JUDGE? (0, Redundant)

Anne_Nonymous (313852) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032904)

Dear Judge,

Thanks for that, but will you please type slower, since I don't read so fast no more neither.

Hugs and Kisses, The Defendant

Frostwire? (4, Interesting)

supersloshy (1273442) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032074)

Frostwire's still up. http://www.frostwire.com/ [frostwire.com] . Limewire != Gnutella, which is decentralized and thus impossible to shut down completely.

On a related note, I can't believe how stupid this ruling is. It's a Gnutella client! That's it! Limewire is responsible for nothing; it's the illegal distributors of copyrighted works, which LimeWire isn't, that are legally responsible for any of this. What's next, making HTTP/FTP/BitTorrent/the Internet illegal because it "encourages illegal file-sharing"? Give me a break! Some of the best legal to download music I've found was promoted by Frostwire! The problem isn't file-sharing, obviously, but an outdated business model and a resistance to change.

Re:Frostwire? (4, Insightful)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032456)

On a related note, I can't believe how stupid this ruling is. It's a Gnutella client! That's it! Limewire is responsible for nothing; it's the illegal distributors of copyrighted works, which LimeWire isn't, that are legally responsible for any of this.

Part of what got Limewire shut down was their marketing.
Ontop of everything else they put on their website, they bought keywords like kazaa, morpheus, and napster.
Limewire did this to themselves in their rush to fill the void left by previous filesharing programs.

Re:Frostwire? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34032932)

IANAL, so what's wrong with buying those ads?

Re:Frostwire? (1)

Orestesx (629343) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032560)

You're seriously still arguing this? You and I understand this as a matter of common sense, but the precedent has been set.

Napster [wikipedia.org]
Grokster [wikipedia.org]

Re:Frostwire? (1)

gknoy (899301) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032568)

What's next, making HTTP/FTP/BitTorrent/the Internet illegal because it "encourages illegal file-sharing"?

If the RIAA/MPAA and their friends could figure out how to do it, they would. They've been trying for quite some time (witness, ACTA).

Re:Frostwire? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34032790)

>> Limewire is responsible for nothing; it's the illegal distributors of copyrighted works, which LimeWire isn't, that are legally responsible for any of this.

Now you know how Smith & Wesson feels most of the time.

Ignorance (2, Interesting)

cosm (1072588) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032140)

Either I am ignorant, or the judge is.

DOWNLOADING OR SHARING COPYRIGHTED CONTENT WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION IS ILLEGAL.

Yes, that is correct. But how can they shut down LimeWire through the vicarious actions of its users? It is the user's who are responsible. They share the data. Unless LimeWire themselves is hosting the copyrighted bits, what are they doing wrong? If they provide some helper service for getting nodes connected, perhaps that is the 'gotcha'. But even then, if they are just managing connections, they still are not hosting the data (AFAIK).

Should we shutdown chat clients and protocols because they allow people to disseminate links to copyright infringed data?
Should we shutdown production of all copy machines because they could be used to infringe copyright?
Should we ban hard-drives because they could be used to store copy-righted data?
Should we ban the human-brain because it could retain the contents of a copyrighted document?

Re. Tard. Ed.

Also, does the injunction necessitate YELLING? I know the out-moded channels are scared and all, but that is just icing on the cake.

Re:Ignorance (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032690)

But how can they shut down LimeWire through the vicarious actions of its users? It is the user's who are responsible.

Under the law, the fact that A committed and is responsible for action X does not imply that B is not also responsible.

Unless LimeWire themselves is hosting the copyrighted bits, what are they doing wrong?

As found by the court, they had profited by knowingly fostering and enabling copyright infringement.

Re:Ignorance (1)

misexistentialist (1537887) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032998)

I'm sure the judge realizes the ruling makes no sense and is illegal by Constitutional standards. But people exchanging others' work is intolerable, so a little judicial activism is called for. Practicality is far more important when creating law than justice or logic.

LAMENESS FILTER (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032234)

Didn't you read the lameness filter? Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.

Now the real test starts (4, Interesting)

DodgeRules (854165) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032350)

From the cnet article:

"RIAA lawyers have told the judge that LimeWire costs the record labels about $500 million in lost music sales every month."

So with LimeWire shut down, will record sales increase by $500 million every month? Hopefully they will use current sales figures including the 2 months AFTER the shutdown to calculate the lost sales prior to the shutdown and not just take the RIAA lawyers word for it. My guess is they will see little, if any, sales difference after the shutdown.

Re:Now the real test starts (2, Funny)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032450)

$500 million per month works out to be 6.5 billion per year.

I'm amazed that we actually have record companies around with giant losses like these. Won't someone think of the children?

This post brought to you by the foundation for sarcastic replies.

Re:Now the real test starts (2, Funny)

BlueKitties (1541613) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032730)

I'm sure -- upon hearing these huge damages record labels have had -- the judge will promptly fine everyone involved infinity billion dollars.

Re:Now the real test starts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34032780)

$500 million per month works out to be 6.5 billion per year.

I'd disagree with you, but maybe you're using some weird unit like "6.5 billion (units of $0.923077) per year".

Re:Now the real test starts (3, Insightful)

grapeape (137008) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032502)

That wont matter the will just shift the blame to the next target, just as they focused on Limewire after Napster, as long as there is anything to pin blame on they don't have to actually have any real data to backup their claims. I fully expect that at an upcoming awards show we will see some digital holdout musician like Paul McCartney touting a new pay service calling itself Limewire attempting to live off past name recognition despite a poor business model.

Re:Now the real test starts (1)

Lehk228 (705449) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032850)

so then i assume the record companies will update their tax information to reflect the additional half a billion in income each month?

Re:Now the real test starts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34033078)

Hasn't that been debunked well enough and long enough to go after these guys for perjury? Are lawyers exempt from perjury?

The end of the lime for linewire (1)

Hottie Parms (1364385) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032394)

A truly sad day indeed.

Re:The end of the lime for linewire (1)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032470)

When life gives you limes...

Re:The end of the lime for linewire (1)

Hottie Parms (1364385) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032510)

When life gives you limes...

...make frostwire!

Good (1)

genfail (777943) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032486)

Good! Maybe my users will get less viruses now.

Re:Good (1)

Voyager529 (1363959) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032752)

Wish I could share this notion, but alas, I do not.

If you go back in history a bit, you'll find plenty of relics along the way. You'll find Sean Fanning's Napster, ScourXchange, WinMX, Morpheus, Kazaa, Bearshare, and now Limewire. I don't care about any of those. My example right now is DVDXCopy. Back when DVDXCopy came out, I remember seeing it in the acrylic boxes at CompUSA, being sold for $100 a pop. Its claim to fame: making it stupid simple to make copies of copy protected DVDs. IMO it propelled the DVD burner into standard gear on computers in less than half the time a standard migration would have taken. Ironically, it was among the first mainstream applications (besides Windows XP and Office XP) to require activation.

The MPAA sent a few love letters to 321 Studios, brought them to court, and won. 321 Studios tried to keep their shelf space next to Nero and Roxio, but they were more expensive and brought less to the table since they had a whole lot of court fees that Roxio didn't. They went bankrupt in 2004.

What does this have to do with customers not getting viruses anymore? Well, DVDXcopy had the notoriety of copying commercial movies, so people would google the term...and get plenty of fake versions of it containing adware, malware, and plenty of other shadyness. It was a huge problem because everyone was getting infected and not knowing it. At the very least, I got plenty of calls from people who were wondering why the price was so high when the company itself had gone under, and why there were so many popup ads on their computers.

Admittedly, Google and Bing have both gotten much better at filtering out malware serving websites, so it might not be as much of a problem. Still, if people were able to get themselves infected with limewire, they're going to be dumb enough to either move onto another Gnutella client (Frostwire has gotten plenty of traction recently even before the C&D) where the same sets of files will inevitably be shared, or they'll keep searching for Limewire until something makes a green, fruit-like icon appear on the desktop and let them download Justin_Bieber_Rare_Live_Recording.mp3.exe.

A Victory For The American People. (5, Funny)

BlueKitties (1541613) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032580)

The media companies have stood up against rampant piracy to protect artistic expression and innovation! This is truly a victory for The American People.

Re:A Victory For The American People. (2, Interesting)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032634)

parent.content.getSarcasmLevel();

Re:A Victory For The American People. (3, Funny)

BlueKitties (1541613) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032678)

IT'S OVER... well actually it's about 31, I forgot to declare my int long.

heh (1)

luther349 (645380) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032598)

well part of what killed limewire was the fact they tried to sell pro versions. lets not forget how loaded with spy-where it is loaded with. they where in it for the money it was pretty dammed clear. and being the client is genutella i dought shutting it down is gonna do anything. we still have frostwire and im sure someone else is gonna use the gpl code and make another one.

Well, (4, Funny)

pdxp (1213906) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032656)

It's the end of the lime for them alright, and it's sad to see such a historic piece of software going out on a such a sour note.

Caps lock (1)

HamSammy (1716116) | more than 3 years ago | (#34032658)

Cruise control for cool, like most Limewire users.

People still use Limewire? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34032740)

I was talking to a younger cousin about file-sharing, and when I mentioned Limewire he said that was kind of old and listed newer file-sharing sources. It completely blew me away. We aren't even that far apart! Although it is expected, since when I was younger my high school group went from Napster to Kazaa to Limewire to BearShare to Shareaza, etc, but still. It's like that whole "when I was young we [insert soothing tale of yore]" concept is happening faster and faster, and I'm not even old yet.

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