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First Pictures of the (Fake?) PlayStation Phone

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the use-it-to-jailbreak-your-ps3 dept.

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For some time now, rumors have been floating around that Sony was working on a concept for a mobile phone that also serves as a bona fide portable games console. Engadget now has pictures of a prototype for just such a device. According to the report, the PlayStation Phone will run Android, probably 3.0 (Gingerbread), and it sports "a 1GHz Qualcomm MSM8655 (a chip similar to the one found in the G2, but 200MHz faster), 512MB of RAM, 1GB of ROM, and the screen is in the range of 3.7 to 4.1 inches." The phone has "a long touchpad in the center which is apparently multitouch, and you can see in the photos that it's still bearing those familiar PlayStation shoulder buttons. For Sony buffs, you'll be interested to know that there's no Memory Stick slot here, but there is support for microSD cards." CT: Which would all be well and good if it was real.

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124 comments

Holy war (1, Troll)

weachiod (1928554) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036180)

It's a fake picture, but even if it was real I don't think it would be really succesful. For starters it looks massive as a phone. Secondly, Sony would be up for some serious battle. Even iPhone games are somewhat good, but the holy war begins when Windows Phone 7 devices start showing up. Why? Because of Xbox Live integration, XNA for developers, and the great integration with Microsoft's other gaming platforms and support for developers. For example porting existing indie games made with XNA or C# can be really simple job that may require only changing the controls a little bit. If a gamer is looking for a new phone, he or she is definitely going to look at WP7 phones as it integrates perfectly with their XBOX360 and in future with Windows games (as you may know, Microsoft is rolling out their games marketplace for Windows similar to Steam). That is a huge selling point, and Microsoft would have a long headstart to PlayStation Phone since Windows Phone 7 devices are starting to come out now. Also as a game developer I must say developing for PlayStation and PSP is a major pain in the ass and many developers share the same opinion. XNA, Windows, XBOX360 and Windows Mobiles on the other hand are lovely to develop for.

Re:Holy war (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34036288)

I also really believed that:
a) Somehow PSP games would magically work on an Android phone
b) Sony would ditch Memory Stick for SD
c) A new PSP would be made by Sony Ericsson, a company that has nothing to do with Playstation.

Re:Holy war (1)

pyrosine (1787666) | more than 3 years ago | (#34037390)

Sony Ericsson, a company that has nothing to do with Playstation.

Except from, of course, both being part of the Sony group.

Re:Holy war (1)

Custard Horse (1527495) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036310)

I like your reasoning but I'm not sure it holds up to scrutiny.

Even if people are going to play games on their phones - I personally think the market is limited or at least limited enough that people will not game so much that they get properly 'hooked' - battery life is still a significant issue.

However, if this push towards gaming gives battery technology a shove, then we might be in for an interesting couple of years. I hope that WP7 is not fools gold and will be a proper challenge to the current front runners.

Re:Holy war (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34037188)

Even if people are going to play games on their phones

People will, but the Xbox crowd isn't going to want to play games with just a touch screen and accelerometer. If a phone doesn't have a d-pad/joystick and buttons, then it is not a serious gaming platform.

Re:Holy war (1)

SimonTheSoundMan (1012395) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036330)

I think you fail to realise; Sony already has PlayStation Network, PlayStation Store and developers on board. Sort of makes your argument pointless.

Windows 7 phones are out, yes. But they only serve the casual gamer — they lack a d-pad for a start.

Re:Holy war (1)

RDW (41497) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036746)

'But they only serve the casual gamer -- they lack a d-pad for a start.'

Of course, there's something of a precedent for going against expectations and sacrificing the familiar interface when turning a successful product into a phone:

http://www.gosammy.com/2006/12/05/new-iphone-details-emerge/ [gosammy.com]
http://ployer.com/archives/pict05_iphone_r04b.php [ployer.com]

Re:Holy war (1)

AltairDusk (1757788) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036438)

Windows Phone 7 has some potential but it is facing a large uphill battle and still lacks some key features. Even to those interested in the Xbox Live integration (like me) there are other factors that may turn them away to another mobile OS. In my case for example until proper multitasking is added it's simply not an option no matter how good the Live integration is. They'll have to do quite a bit to convince me to switch over from Android.

Re:Holy war (1)

nosferatu1001 (264446) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036550)

For instance no background tasks unless approved by MS is moronic.

Having a twitter app on your home page that doesnt actually update until you launch = waste of space.

Re:Holy war (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34036840)

Having a twitter app ... = waste of space.

tiftfy

Re:Holy war (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34037212)

You picked an odd example. WP7 web services can send text notifications to the foreground app, which display themselves using an overlay bubble -- even when the main app (e.g. Twitter) is suspended in the background.

Other types of background tasks would be nice (music streaming, etc.) but supposedly those are in the works for later updates.

Re:Holy war (1)

sznupi (719324) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036732)

XNA, Windows, XBOX360 and Windows Mobiles on the other hand are lovely to develop for

...and here's the reason why we have to put up with "hybrid" games, not showing strengths of any platform on which they run (well, not because of lazy devs of course - publishers wanted it, so MS provided; if only it weren't for tons of people happy about their entry back then)

Re:Holy war (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34039476)

Not sure if I understand why the above was marked Troll. This is why I'm beginning to read Slashdot less and less. He/She wasn't moderated --- this person was *silenced*, which is a key difference.

From a signature I've seen here before: Flamebait (Troll in this case) is not a category for "I disagree".

it is not confirmed fake. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34036228)

Nowgamer has retracted their claim. Re-read that article it is now updated.

My money is on real... (0)

Timmmm (636430) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036244)

All the "if it was real" link says is that Sony doesn't comment on speculation and rumour. It really doesn't look like a render, and there's no real evidence it is fake. In fact I'd expect a fake to have fewer flaws (e.g. "Emergency calls only"/"No SIM card" surely wouldn't overlap in a fake).

Either way, I want one!

Re:My money is on real... (1)

hattig (47930) | more than 3 years ago | (#34038270)

Same here - one screenshot has an A and a B in a circle. Given that the UI is no where near completed, I would expect that they probably used unicode characters 24B6 and 24B7 until the font designer had added the Playstation control images to the UI font.

Re:My money is on real... (1)

MozeeToby (1163751) | more than 3 years ago | (#34038272)

I think they're saying that this is someone's hardware hack, rather than a faked up render. Something about it just doesn't feel like a finished professional grade product, but I guess that's just a gut feeling. If they could get this thing to be a decent Android phone and were able to give it the ability to play PSP games, I think they would have a marketable device. I know there's a bunch of PSP games that I would be interested in but I have no desire for a dedicated handheld gaming device.

Re:My money is on real... (1)

jandrese (485) | more than 3 years ago | (#34038674)

Funnily enough, the error level analysis suggests that the SIM card messages are fakes, but the rest of the phone picture might not. It's not definitive proof, but it doesn't stand out as immediately fake.

Well... (2, Interesting)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036246)

...we all new this was coming when the PSP Go was released, right? It already looked very similar to a cell phone that was out at the time (the model escapes me at the moment).

Still, I don't know how good of an idea it is to do this. If it's real, Sony better be pulling some kind of magic out from under their hat. Otherwise, they're just going to end up with a crappy phone/gaming system.

Re:Well... (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036268)

Otherwise, they're just going to end up with a crappy phone/gaming system

That is to say their cell phones have left much to be desired. Piggybacking one on a portable gaming system is liable to make both of them suck horribly. Yes, the convenience would be awesome, but I think it's an unnecessary complication.

Re:Well... (1)

Patch86 (1465427) | more than 3 years ago | (#34038648)

Quite. All fingers point at Nokia N-Gage.

Great idea. In practice- mediocre games console, mediocre phone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-gage [wikipedia.org]

Re:Well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34036446)

hmm...can you say Nokia Engage?

Re:Well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34036512)

I can, but unfortunately they went with the "trendy" spelling of N-Gage [n-gage.com] , which to me sounds like a reference to a size of miniature railway track.

Re:Well... (1)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036650)

I suspect Google will be the ones to bring the magic. Word has it that Android Gingerbread has a big gaming focus.

Re:Well... (1)

jandrese (485) | more than 3 years ago | (#34038708)

Funnily enough, according to the rumors this thing won't run PSP games, but instead require the devs to build entirely new ones for the platform.

This doesn't make any sense to me, so I hope it's just wrong, assuming there is any truth to the rumors in the first place.

Knew it was fake at "no Memory Stick" (1, Flamebait)

ejtttje (673126) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036258)

They'll keep beating that dead horse until pigs fly... or one of their proprietary standards becomes popular... which is the same thing.

Re:Knew it was fake at "no Memory Stick" (1)

AltairDusk (1757788) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036454)

Memory stick was one of the reasons I stopped buying Sony's consumer products that need removable memory. They lost the format war a long time ago, SD is the standard for almost everyone else and I prefer memory that doesn't lock me into using it in only one brand.

Re:Knew it was fake at "no Memory Stick" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34036480)

*cough* blue ray *cough*

Re:Knew it was fake at "no Memory Stick" (1)

ejtttje (673126) | more than 3 years ago | (#34037722)

Which is barely displacing DVD... not exactly popular, more like last man standing vs HD-DVD, and it's slowly bleeding to death as downloads and streaming displace Bluray as fast as Bluray displaces DVD.

Sony Ericsson doesn't use Memory Stick (3, Informative)

sznupi (719324) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036494)

Not only SE uses microSD in new phone models for over a year, you might also learn about some of the "proprietary" (like SD is open...) "unpopular" standards with which Sony was heavily involved:
Bluray
HDV
miniDV
Hi8
DAT
FDD (the "standard" 3.5' one)
CD
S/PDIF (what do you think "S" stands for?)

Re:Sony Ericsson doesn't use Memory Stick (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34036648)

FDD (the "standard" 3.5' one)

Wow that's one huge disk! I thought a 5 or 8 inch floppy was big, but now you're telling me they have a 3.5 foot floppy.

Re:Sony Ericsson doesn't use Memory Stick (1)

ejtttje (673126) | more than 3 years ago | (#34037680)

I've not owned/used any of those except the CD and FDD... not much of a track record, especially in the last couple decades. Bluray is still having trouble displacing DVDs, they barely won that against HD-DVD (and probably lost the war in the process).

Sony has great engineers, but horrible management. If they had half a brain they'd realize the more they try to lock down a monopoly on their formats, the less accepted it will be. SD has licensing, but it's a consortium, not one company.

Re:Sony Ericsson doesn't use Memory Stick (1)

sznupi (719324) | more than 3 years ago | (#34038178)

Oh yeah, they are part of the DVD consortium, too.

Most importantly, Sony is far from a monolithic entity; it is essentially a consortium in itself - something people constantly forget.
Some parts are very open.

Re:Sony Ericsson doesn't use Memory Stick (1)

ejtttje (673126) | more than 3 years ago | (#34039262)

True, but note that when they are part of a consortium then it's not really their own in-house design. For that matter, the CD was joint with Philips. And the 3.5" floppy was actually a consortium that took over a flopped Sony design [wikipedia.org] . This is a very consistent story: Sony doesn't wind up with a monopoly on successful formats, which is exactly why they succeed.

What sucks is when Sony decides it's going to open up a new market and try to lock everyone into a format it designed on its own and where it controls all the rights. Then consumers get stuck with a ball and chain to drag along if they want to get the good parts. Even Apple, who appreciates a good lock-in as much as anyone, promotes consortium-based standards when they can, like USB, Firewire, CHRP, HTML5, etc. As far as I'm concerned, they do it "right": invent a new format when it's necessary to meet a design constraint to make the best product, not because some PHB thinks he sees an opportunity to make a mint with his own de facto standard.

At the end of the day, Sony is a Corporation, through and through. They're out to make a buck, and happen to do so by targeting the high-end of the market. IMHO, they are not seeking to serve the customers with the best experience—if they do so, that's just a lucky side-effect of taking their money. That and their multiple-personality disorder from division infighting (e.g. music vs. hardware sales) means I prefer to stay far away from their products. *shrug*

Re:Sony Ericsson doesn't use Memory Stick (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 3 years ago | (#34039244)

I'm pretty sure that almost all CD/DVD/Receivers/TVs or anything related to home media (including most computer audio cards and some motherboards) included S/PDIF connections commonly known as "Fiber Optic" digital sound. This has been the "norm" for the past 10 years or so.

You may have owned one of these without knowing (or thinking) about it.

Re:Knew it was fake at "no Memory Stick" (1)

dnwq (910646) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036658)

The Sony Ericsson Android and WinMo phones already out do not use Memory Stick, and have not since 2008.

Here is a list of all the Sony Ericsson phones that use MicroSD [gsmarena.com] instead of Memory Stick.

Re:Knew it was fake at "no Memory Stick" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34036940)

Yeah you are right I hate my PS3 for that fact only the propriate memory stick to view my pictures/transfer files, etc

Really the year 2000 has called and it wants its arguments back, then again this is slashdot... .

Re:Knew it was fake at "no Memory Stick" (1)

ejtttje (673126) | more than 3 years ago | (#34037784)

PS3 happens to support multiple formats, but note that includes Memory Stick... the point being they're not going leave support out for their pet format, still hoping someone will use it... ;-P

Re:Knew it was fake at "no Memory Stick" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34037760)

Bad Metaphor Guy?

Re:Knew it was fake at "no Memory Stick" (1)

xtracto (837672) | more than 3 years ago | (#34038476)

I knew it was fake after looking at the first picture.

Basically because the shown device does not have an analog stick.

This is the same Sony? (1)

wjousts (1529427) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036260)

That put out a PSP commercial with a kid making fun of a guy for playing games on the same phone he calls his grandma on?

OS Version # (1)

thrik (1929800) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036264)

How is it that Slashdot doesn't know that Gingerbread is 2.3? This is old news... http://phandroid.com/2010/10/22/gingerbread-to-be-android-2-3/ [phandroid.com]

Re:OS Version # (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036294)

How is it that Slashdot doesn't know that Gingerbread is 2.3? This is old news

You just answered your own question.

Newsworthy articles (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34036266)

Slashdot: Rumors for nerds. Stuff that may not exist.

how about a nintendo phone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34036272)

I would much rather have a phone from nintendo. imagine calling a friend and having a pokemon battle, or advance wars, etc. give me a ds that can play games, play mp3s, make calls and send texts, it would be the perfect pocket sized device. nintendo could pull it off.

Re:how about a nintendo phone? (1)

gatzke (2977) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036332)

Maybe a micro DS? Add another LCD when you open it up?

Why do we even have cards / DVDs for games anymore? I thought everything was going download.

I love my droid, but it needs a bigger battery. And 2.2 went a bit wonky on me. But I love it still.

Re:how about a nintendo phone? (1)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036626)

Why do we need card/DVD? Simple, because not only is there many places without decent high speed where you might want to play, but being in one of the "test markets" I can tell you the future from your local cable/DSL and it is seriously nasty caps. Hell the caps on Cox makes Comcast look luxurious, we are talking 36Gb residential and 76Gb business. So anybody that bets their money on "in the cloud!" for residential users is gonna get a serious dotbomb wakeup call when these suckass caps roll nationwide.

As for TFA, the elephant in the room is the battery. As you found the battery life on these slim devices suck serious ass, and the more things the device has to do the more they suck the big wet titty. I have yet to see any of these thing match my Sandisk M260 with its 27 hour battery life for MP3s, and while I don't know exactly how long my youngest gets on his DS he has the damn thing all the time, so I'm guessing its a lot. When you figure in both the power needed to be a cell and make calls, with the incredible power sucking a decent graphics chip would do in that size? Well I just hope you ain't got anyone important to talk to, because good luck. Until we have a breakthrough with battery tech all this integration and slim design just sucks up your power.

Re:how about a nintendo phone? (1)

lavacano201014 (999580) | more than 3 years ago | (#34037592)

When you figure in both the power needed to be a cell and make calls, with the incredible power sucking a decent graphics chip would do in that size?

They should ask Palm how the battery in the Treo 680 works - at full charge full brightness I typically get about two days straight. Granted, I don't get/place calls often, but...

Transferring 8.5 GB at 5 GB per month (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036628)

Why do we even have cards / DVDs for games anymore?

Because a dual-layer DVD can hold 8.5 GB of data, which is bigger than a 5 GB monthly transfer cap. I can't reach pocketheaven.com at the moment to see there's been a DS release bigger than 256 MB, but I do know that some ISPs cap even home access, and they get away with it because of a last-mile monopoly.

Re:Transferring 8.5 GB at 5 GB per month (1)

AndrewNeo (979708) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036734)

DS games are sized in megabits, so a 256Mbit cartridge is really 32 megabytes of memory.

2048 Mbit DS games (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#34037366)

DS games are sized in megabits, so a 256Mbit cartridge is really 32 megabytes of memory.

Animal Crossing: Wild World is 256 Mbit. Some newer games are 2048 Mbit, such as the Dutch version of Professor Layton and the Unwound Future [gbatemp.net] .

Re:Transferring 8.5 GB at 5 GB per month (1)

atrain728 (1835698) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036968)

Video games pretty much don't exist for full-size consoles that need to utilize an entire single-layer DVD's storage capability, let alone portable games. Your point still stands that data caps make these things more difficult, but I can pretty much guarantee that no game will ever exist for this device (should it exist) that would exceed the 5GB mark.

Re:Transferring 8.5 GB at 5 GB per month (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#34037472)

Video games pretty much don't exist for full-size consoles that need to utilize an entire single-layer DVD's storage capability

Super Smash Bros. Brawl was the first 2-layer Wii game. Nintendo had to perform warranty repairs on several Wii consoles whose drives couldn't properly read dual-layer discs. PS3 games such as Metal Gear Solid 4 are even bigger; its install file alone is 4.6 GB, and Mr. Kojima reportedly had to cut features [joystiq.com] to fit the game in the 50 GB of a 2-layer Blu-ray Disc.

I can pretty much guarantee that no game will ever exist for this device (should it exist) that would exceed the 5GB mark.

Imagine the parents doing Christmas shopping online, and then multiple children spending their Christmas money on game downloads. That can rack up the bits real fast for the December billing period.

I can't see this working too well... (1)

hipp5 (1635263) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036290)

Personally I wouldn't buy one. Why? I already have a phone that I like a lot. If I'm in the market for a new gaming system I don't want to ditch the phone that I already have. And I'm not going to buy this just for the system, because that would mean paying for all the phone functionality that I'm not going to use. So basically I see Sony's market being people looking for new phones who wouldn't mind the bonus of getting a gaming system. However, the phone market has a bazillion different models all competing for your purchase, and I can see this phone losing out. I know when it comes to a new gaming system and a new phone I'll purchase the Nintendo 3DS and then buy a phone that's designed to be a phone.

Re:I can't see this working too well... (1)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036376)

I've found surprisingly that I game more on my iPhone than anything else. I don't have hours to game on my PC or on a console, but I can find 5-10 minutes here or there on my phone. The games are often designed to be picked up for a few minutes here and there. I do find myself wanting an analog joystick for certain games, but a mix of touch and tilt works surprisingly well. I also like having it with me everywhere I go.

RTFA. It hasn't been confirmed as false at all. (2, Insightful)

dotbenjamin (1034650) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036328)

The article linked from the CT update is complete bullshit. The title is "Sony Comments On 'Fake' PSPhone", but reading the text reveals:

Sony Computer Entertainment Europe has since confirmed its official line on the rumoured phone as, "We do not comment on rumour and speculation."

NowGamer also contacted Sony Ericsson for a comment. A spokesperson also responded, "Sony Ericsson does not comment on rumour or speculation".

...

However, NowGamer still understands that the images are indeed fake.

Are NowGamer always so terrible?

Re:RTFA. It hasn't been confirmed as false at all. (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036634)

The part you cut out that the images on the phone's screen are more likely than not shopped.

Re:RTFA. It hasn't been confirmed as false at all. (1)

lavacano201014 (999580) | more than 3 years ago | (#34037610)

Because it's totally possible to take a picture of a phone and get a crystal clear screen. Even if you turn the Flash off it's pretty much impossible.

Re:RTFA. It hasn't been confirmed as false at all. (1)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036642)

When they first ran the story, they said Sony had confirmed with them that it was a fake, so the CT update was probably reasonable enough at the time it was added. NowGamer have changed the story without explaining the nature of the change.

"Fake" thing ... (1)

CaptainMoron (1798168) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036338)

The best place to mention if it is "fake" would be in the comment. Or maybe at the last line of the article ... but NOT in the title. It's kinda not the right place to suppose that.

It's a fake! (2, Insightful)

91degrees (207121) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036344)

Funnily enough it ws this that convinced me it was a fake:

" For Sony buffs, you'll be interested to know that there's no Memory Stick slot here, but there is support for microSD cards"

Why would Sony suddenly change policy when the Sony controlled format is widely available? They wouldn't. Sony doesn't work that way.

+1 (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036362)

There is absolutely no way anyone should believe this given that there's no MS port. Indeed it almost has to be a puny memory stick just to dick the customer around.

Nan, Sony doesn't use MS memory anymore (1)

thebrave (1332837) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036392)

As seen on their latest phones and cameras, Sony doesn't use MemoryStick anymore.

SE uses microSD (3, Informative)

sznupi (719324) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036414)

Sony Ericsson switched to microSD in new products over a year ago...

Re:It's a fake! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34036418)

Why would Sony suddenly change policy when the Sony controlled format is widely available? They wouldn't. Sony doesn't work that way.

You seem to overlook the fact that it is a Sony Ericsson logo on this "phone". Not a Sony one.

Re:It's a fake! (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036894)

I did indeed overlook that. My logic was flawed.

That said, I find it even less convincing that Sony would allow a subsidiary they didn't wholly own acess to their Games console technology.

Re:It's a fake! (1)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036718)

They made that policy change a year ago. All their Android phones use microSD.

Re:It's a fake! (1)

stms (1132653) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036758)

Really I knew it was fake at it runs android. A playstation phone would run some kind of playstation Firmware/OS. There's no way sony would run android on a "playstation" branded device.

Re:It's a fake! (2, Informative)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 3 years ago | (#34037640)

Really I knew it was fake at it runs android. A playstation phone would run some kind of playstation Firmware/OS. There's no way sony would run android on a "playstation" branded device.

Well, it can run Android underneath, actually.

People seem to be under the mistaken impression Android is free and open. It's not, it's open-source. You can lock down an Android device quite easily, and even slap a pretty shell on top of it. The only thing Sony would give you is the Linux source code, but there's no way you can run it on your PSPhone at all. And they don't even need to work with Google at all! Sony is free to ship the PSPhone without "with Google". Just like all the Archos tablets and Barnes and Noble Nooks (and soon NOok Colors) out there. And probably many more Android-running devices as well.

Root your phone and Sony'll just make a mandatory update to fix that flaw. Even if it's Android.

Sony can easily make a locked-down Android running PSPhone, slap their PS UI layer on top, and have it only work with Playstation Network.

Android's just a platform, which being open-source is very adaptable to the needs of the developer. Alas, it also means that each and every developer outside of the OHA (thus without "with Google") will end up with their own marketplace app store.

Re:It's a fake! (1)

Sylak (1611137) | more than 3 years ago | (#34037194)

Yeah, that's what tipped most of us off

Phone-y (1, Offtopic)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036360)

I like my phone to be a phone.
I must be weird.

Re:Phone-y (1)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036416)

Hey, I like my phone to work like a phone also. Of course, the way things are right now, I cannot fall back on GSM dialup (this is disabled by my carrier), nor can my computer even dial a number for me to make a voice call, but my phone does feature an MP3 player, Java, and games!

Re:Phone-y (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34036482)

I like my phone to be a phone.

there's an app for that!

Re:Phone-y (1)

Arthur Grumbine (1086397) | more than 3 years ago | (#34039138)

I like my phone to be a phone.

there's an app for that!

Not a very reliable one, though. I think it's still in beta.

Re:Phone-y (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34037538)

I like my phone to be a phone.
I must be weird.

Not at all, this is the most predictable comment on all Slashdot articles discussing smartphones, cameraphones, musicphones, gaming phones, etc. And a similar one also on all Facebook stories (if I want to contact my friends I'll just call them).

And you are of course welcome to buying such a phone, they exist in plenty. Many others clearly prefer phones they can use Internet and email on, play music on, take pictures with, game on, etc. Doesn't have to be one size fits all (except if you want an i in front).

Hell I can still remember forum arguments that mobile phones were unnecessary and unwanted, you didn't need/want to carry your phone with you at all time. And I'm wondering if the archives of Slashdot predecessors contains comments like "I like mye PC to be just a PC, not a Internet device, music player, gaming device, video player, etc" :)

Re:Phone-y (2, Insightful)

qortra (591818) | more than 3 years ago | (#34037736)

Why do people keep saying this? And why does it get modded up each time? Can we acknowledge that there are Luddites in the world and not have to broadcast their viewpoints every time?

Let me give a contrasting view - just about the only thing that I don't want my phone to be is a phone. I hate blocking, synchronous communication - it is wasteful and inappropriate for the large majority of communications that I do. Generally, if I want to engage in such communication, I will attempt to do so in person.

Additionally, I am excited about the prospect of Android actually getting decent games for a change. Even if this phone is a fake (as the vast majority of Slashdot patrons believe it to be), I think great things are ahead for Android gaming. Frankly, I would love an Android handset with a fold-out gamepad, and the fact that this [fake?] phone is getting press is an indication that I am not alone.

Seriously dude, buy a Nokia 3310 and stop bothering us with your anti-technology sentiments. This a site for geeks, and we by-and-large like powerful personal electronics - most of us has been wanting communicator badges, tricorders, and PADDs since we first saw Star Trek, so how much more would we like something that combines all of those?

Moreover, even if we didn't have a fascination with such things, why in the world would we want to carry around 5 separate devices? Do you really want to lug around a phone, a Gameboy, a cassette Walkman, and portable TV, and a PDA everywhere you go? Are you that guy who hates Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, and DVD-ROM drives because "you like your computers to be computers" and "your TVs to be TVs"?

Re:Phone-y (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34039126)

My phone is a phone.
It is wired.

Sony phone? NO F'IN' WAY (5, Funny)

wowbagger (69688) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036406)

A Sony phone, especially one that is also a Playstation? Let's think about this:

Scene: The future.
Me: Phone - call George.
Phone: I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.
Me: What? Phone - call George.
Phone: George has been found guilty of possibly considering using his phone to view content unapproved by Sony, and inciting others to do the same. You may not call him.
Me: Since when?
Phone: My last upgrade removed your ability to call such people.
Me: I never agreed to that - that wasn't in the EULA.
Phone: It was - you just didn't read the fine print.
Me: I did so - every word!
Phone: You didn't follow the link to the additional restrictions page.
Me: There was no such link!
Phone: Yes, there was. It was the third period from the end.
Me: How the hell was I to know that was a link? It was the same color as the rest of the text, with no underline or other indication it was anything special.
Phone: Never the less, it was a part of the contract...
Me: What "contract"? It was a EULA, and was forced on me.
Phone: A EULA is a contract, and you agreed...
Me: ONLY BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T LET ME MAKE ANY CALLS UNTIL I ACCEPTED IT!
Phone: You could have refused.
Me: And I couldn't make any phone calls!
Phone: You could still have used me to play licensed games and watch approved content.
Me: But not to make phone calls - you know, your main reason in life?
Phone: You accepted the EULA. You can now only call Sony approved numbers.
Me: In other words you have removed a feature.
Phone: An unadvertised feature....
Me: YOU ARE A PHONE! MAKING CALLS IS YOUR MAIN FUNCTION.
Phone: Sony never advertised the ability to call any specific number, only that I could make phone calls. I can make phone calls now. Just not to George.
Me: Phone - call Sony Support.
Phone: You are in violation of your EULA. You are attempting to use me in a manner not approved by Sony. Activating brick mode.

Re:Sony phone? NO F'IN' WAY (2, Funny)

Theoboley (1226542) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036586)

More like:

Scene: The future.
Me: Phone - call George.
Phone: Activating brick mode.

Re:Sony phone? NO F'IN' WAY (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34037034)

Nah :

Scene: The future.
Me: Phone -
Phone: *BOOM*

If it does come out then sony will NOT sue hackers (2, Interesting)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036412)

If it does come out then sony will NOT be able to sue hackers as the DMCA lets you hack phones to run on any network or run any app.

Re:If it does come out then sony will NOT sue hack (1)

Schadrach (1042952) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036666)

...but nothing stops Sony from arbitrarily removing features from such a phone, or from cutting you off from accessing their library of apps/games for the device if you refuse to submit to such an update. So, IOW, business as usual.

Just a matter of time before we see CFW for the PS3 that undoes the damage though, give it time. Patience my precioussssssss...

Re:If it does come out then sony will NOT sue hack (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036864)

suing has nothing to do with availability of hacks, just commercial availability of the hacks in some regions.

Can you heardf that noise..? (1)

bhunachchicken (834243) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036554)

"...the PlayStation Phone will run Android"

It's the sound of Oracle, Apple, Microsoft and Nokia all rubbing their hands together in glee, for all the patent infringement damages they'll be able to bring against Sony.

Seriously, these software patent disputes are pissing me off. It's like watching children fighting in a playground about who gets to go on the swings first...

Re:Can you heardf that noise..? (1)

No. 24601 (657888) | more than 3 years ago | (#34039300)

Seriously, these software patent disputes are pissing me off. It's like watching children fighting in a playground about who gets to go on the swings first...

That is.. until you realize that it's nothing personal to the companies involved (i.e. it's just business). Particularly nowadays, being on both the filing and receiving end of lawsuits are a healthy part of every businessman's diet. My.. it must be good to be a patent lawyer in Silicon Valley ;)

I doubt it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34036618)

The fact that it supposedly has a microSD slot and runs Android is enough for me to believe it's false. The Android platform is too open for Sony's tastes. They've always loved locking down their devices to an extreme degree. And they love their proprietary formats. For them, I imagine choosing SD over Memory Stick would be like pulling teeth.

Re:I doubt it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34036670)

Why are you so stupid? Sony Ericsson has Android phones already. And uses microSD in their devices.

Also, look how "locked" is Sony e-reader ecosystem in comparison with Kindle. Or how "locked" their flash Walkmans are.

Re:I doubt it (1)

ThirdPrize (938147) | more than 3 years ago | (#34038168)

Yeah, and like they are going to rewrite all their games in Java. Next!

Heard of a Fake iPhone yesterday (1)

G3ckoG33k (647276) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036698)

Coincidentally, yesterday I overheard a conversation between two guys were one guy was selling an explicit fake iPhone. I had never heard of fake iPhones and got intrigued and leaned slightly to hear better. :) The prospective buyer said, well, it is a bit slower in the touchscreen and the interface, but otherwise, no-one would be able to tell the difference. The power cord didn't fit very well either. Then, they walked away and I could not hear any more.

Has anyone else heard of fake iPhones?! That was news to me.

Re:Heard of a Fake iPhone yesterday (1)

JLangbridge (1613103) | more than 3 years ago | (#34037174)

I've seen something like that, in Asia. It was the same dimensions as an iPhone, same layout, different screen and different OS/icons/layout, but you couldn't see that inside its box. They weren't advertising it as an Apple phone, but there again, they weren't advertising it as anything else. I was an iPhone dev at the time, and you had to look closely at the box in order to figure out that it wasn't a real iPhone. However, on this particular one, if you had used an iPhone before, you would have seen the difference by just turning it on and looking at the screen; the icons were different, the layout wasn't exactly the same, and the screen quality had nothing to do with the original.

Re:Heard of a Fake iPhone yesterday (1)

Laxori666 (748529) | more than 3 years ago | (#34037176)

Googling "buy fake iPhone" got me this link [zdnet.com] . Seems to be a pretty good look-alike for only $40.

Re:Heard of a Fake iPhone yesterday (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34037394)

Search for "air phone". It is a rip off of the iPhone, looks pretty neat considering it is a fraction of the price but I couldn't say how well it runs. Also, it is only 2G, although it does have two sim card slots.

Re:Heard of a Fake iPhone yesterday (1)

Arthur Grumbine (1086397) | more than 3 years ago | (#34039222)

Has anyone else heard of fake iPhones?! That was news to me.

There's an entire primarily-Chinese industry based on imitation of successful (especially Apple) products. There's even an acronym coined by Engadget: KIRF - Keepin' It Real Fake [engadget.com] . Check out the link to see the "state of the art".

What the hell? (1)

northernfrights (1653323) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036712)

If you click the "if it was real" link, you go to a page claiming it's fake with absolutely nothing to back up the claim other than "there's dirt on the screen"? And then in that article, you can click on a link to Engadget swearing its real and coming to market. Whats the deal?

Dual analog controls are a must nowadays (1)

0x537461746943 (781157) | more than 3 years ago | (#34036742)

Assuming they do everything else right... wIthout dual analog controls it will more than likely be another failure. I returned my PSP Go after realizing they didn't add dual analog controls from the older PSP generation. The gameboy franchise already has the touch screen with digital control scheme nailed down. Since the iPhone/iPad can do it now the bar has been raised. Sony needs to show some inovation to get people to switch to their mobile gaming platform. Anything less than dual analog controls will be a downgrade from an iPhone/iPad. Sony has a chance to get a big boost in sales if they do it.

Re:Dual analog controls are a must nowadays (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34037066)

It has a multi-touch sensitive pad between the joystick and buttons. Rumor has it that this strip could function as a decent dual analog replacement.

Re:Dual analog controls are a must nowadays (1)

lavacano201014 (999580) | more than 3 years ago | (#34037688)

dual analog controls from the older PSP generation.

...My first-gen PSP only has one analog control.

Re:Dual analog controls are a must nowadays (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34038322)

Far as I could see there wasn't ANY analog controls, which led me to decide the thing must be a fake.

Phony..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34036818)

There you are - thats the name sorted out!

My main concern... (1)

hkdm (1721140) | more than 3 years ago | (#34038050)

...rests with the battery life.

Sure the concept is interesting: powerful graphics processing alongside a phone and with a touchpad. But to play games regularly and text/call people, the battery will need to be godly, otherwise you'll be faced with multiple charges throughout the day. This is one of the reasons why I hate playing games on my smartphones, because the battery life disappears faster than a hot chick in a LAN party.

Don't get me wrong, I love the Android platform (in fact my phone is running it now), but the battery life is a major concern for me and should be for anyone else who is even considering purchasing this product, fake or not.
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