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Hands-On Test With the Dirt-Cheap CherryPad Tablet

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the stocking-stuffers dept.

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MojoKid writes "A small company out of Palo Alto, CA — Cherrypal — made headlines recently with the announcement of their dirt-cheap $188 CherryPad tablet. The CherryPad is a 7-inch slate that comes preloaded with the Android 2.1 operating system and is driven by an 800MHz ARM11-based processor by Samsung, backed by a meager 256MB of DDR2 system memory. The device is also based on a resistive touch display, so it takes a bit of getting used to, if you've been working with devices like the iPhone or similar, where capacitive touch displays are ubiquitous. Just what does $188 buy you in an Android tablet? In short, the CherryPad falls down a bit where Cherrypal decided to cut corners from a cost perspective. The device needs another 256MB of RAM (for 512MB total) and a higher quality touch screen (perhaps a 1GHz CPU?) and that would have likely pushed its price northward a bit to be sure."

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first poop (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34069738)

i pooped

Re:first poop (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34069780)

and as I stood there and my poop drooped...

Re:first poop (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34069922)

I pooped in my panties, oh no!

Cherrypal scam? (5, Interesting)

hillbluffer (1684134) | more than 3 years ago | (#34069770)

Try Googling "Cherrypal scam" for some interesting links...

Re:Cherrypal scam? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34069794)

Thats scam for sure.
Western Magazine reports [ow.ly]

Re:Cherrypal scam? (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070134)

warning goatse

Re:Cherrypal scam? (1)

AVryhof (142320) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070344)

Mod Parent up... my poor eyes.

Re:Cherrypal scam? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34069838)

Cherrypal stole $285 from me. :(

Re:Cherrypal scam? (1)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070804)

I don't think I'd trust Cherrypal after all I've heard about them, especially when you can get the similar Techpad [chinagrabber.com] for $155. Nice thing about the Techpad is they also sell a "case" for it on the same site that adds a keyboard and clamshell design for $40, so for less than $200 you have a convertible tablet/netbook. They also has several sizes and specs if you want something more beefy. After all the hubbub over CherryPC I just don't think I'd trust them with my money, no thanks.

Re:Cherrypal scam? (1)

Sparr0 (451780) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070932)

Link to the case? I've been looking for such a device for years, and nothing bigger than a PDA has fit.

Re:Cherrypal scam? (1)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 3 years ago | (#34071034)

Hey no problem [chinagrabber.com] , happy to help. BTW if you get one how about sending an email telling how it runs? I wouldn't mind picking up one of these for my oldest. He has a badass Turion X2 laptop i just got him, but for note taking this might be killer. From what I understand this "case" fits any of the 7 inchers, and they have several to choose from including a dual ARM if you need more beefy goodness. As you can see you just plug it into the USB port and voila! Instant netbook. It even has a nice leather looking outer cover to help keep your pad from getting scratched.

Re:Cherrypal scam? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34071778)

badass Turion X2

That's quite an oxymoron there. I used to have a Turion64 X2 based laptop but replaced with with a C2D that is only slightly higher clocked, but probably performs about 4 times as fast.

Re:Cherrypal scam? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070862)

Ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-Cherry Pal!

Re:Cherrypal scam? (4, Insightful)

zombie_striptease (966467) | more than 3 years ago | (#34071062)

I ordered their Africa netbook as a gift for someone last spring. The "Linux" version was actually Windows CE with all the windows logos scrubbed. Cute trick :P

Also it loaded from flash instead of having an actual BIOS, so attempting to install my own OS was non-trivial. They're false-advertising bastards to be sure.

The most important question has not been asked (5, Funny)

sakura the mc (795726) | more than 3 years ago | (#34069778)

Does it run FreeBSD?

No thats isn't the most importaint question (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34069806)

The important question is, can it view this site [ow.ly] correctly

Re:No thats isn't the most importaint question (1)

zhong-guo-1 (1929014) | more than 3 years ago | (#34069848)

It can. I've tested it, it looks good.

Re:No thats isn't the most importaint question (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34069910)

The important question is, can it view this site [ow.ly] correctly

Goatse Alert! Don't click ... or be sure to face away from your keyboard when you puke.

Re:No thats isn't the most importaint question (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070232)

How about this one [ow.ly] ?

Re:The most important question has not been asked (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070974)

It probably could.

I like the form factor (1, Interesting)

siddesu (698447) | more than 3 years ago | (#34069846)

I have a smartphone, and I think they're way too small to read. I've tried the iPad, and it is way too big and too heavy to lug around. I lug a sub-notebook, but I don't really need that keyboard.

I really want something about this big, less than 350g, with at least XGA video and ability to actually use a pen to write stuff, so that it can work as a reader and let me annotate.

Good to see some products that start to feel the market in my direction.

Re:I like the form factor (1)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070078)

Good to see some products that start to feel the market in my direction.

This is not the product you think it is.

Re:I like the form factor (-1, Troll)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070530)

from the stocking-stuffers dept.

I stuffed your mother's pink stocking with my coal-black surprise. It pulled her stocking inside out with it.

Oh, fuck. No, no, NO I forgot to check 'post anonymously' !!!1!!!!

Re:I like the form factor (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070856)

coal-black

Nigger spotted!

Re:I like the form factor (2, Informative)

hitmark (640295) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070150)

Heard about the samsung galaxy tab? And i think they will be selling a stylus for it, even tho it is capacitive.

Re:I like the form factor (1)

siddesu (698447) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070794)

I've heard of it, but I have not yet seen it in a shop, and I want to take a look at the real thing before I can say anything.

I had some expectations for the iPad, but actually using it for a week made it plain obvious it isn't remotely good for me.

Re:I like the form factor (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070908)

the innoversal lattice is far better.
http://www.innoversal.com.tw/en-us/products/lattice.aspx

Re:I like the form factor (1)

LynnwoodRooster (966895) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070260)

The HSG X5A is your ideal device - I had the same requirements when I was looking, and I settled on this unit. It's about 400 grams, has a 7" wide screen format (so it's about half the size of an iPad), plenty good video on-screen (800x480) with 1080p HDMI output if you want it, and with a resistive screen it's perfect for using a pen/pencil/key/finger for drawing on the screen. Plus it comes with Android 2.1 so you have all the book readers available as well as many other good productivity tools.

.
Best of all, you can find them on eBay and other sites (Taobao if you're in China, like me) for around $130-$140. VERY MUCH worth the price!

Re:I like the form factor (1)

siddesu (698447) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070808)

I'll have to look at it, thanks for the tip. For this price I can get one or two to use as wall warts in the garage, if nothing else :)

Re:I like the form factor (1)

NatasRevol (731260) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070458)

Seriously? A 1.5 lb, 0.5" thick, 9.5"x7.5" is too big & heavy?

Are you 6?

Re:I like the form factor (1)

siddesu (698447) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070786)

Yes, it is too heavy and too uncomfortable to hold to read a book on it for any extended period without stress. It is even worse for holding in one hand and annotating. And I have yet to see a good stylus for it.

Since the killer application of a tablet device for me would be serious reading, sketching and annotating, the iPad is very from even passable.

Different people have different usage styles and expectations. I expect it to be comfortable, not cool.

Re:I like the form factor (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070894)

Are you 6?

I wish that I were a 6 year old girl. That would make me so happy.

Re:I like the form factor (1, Funny)

Pseudonym Authority (1591027) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070914)

I am a six year old little girl myself, so I speak with authority on the subject when I say that it is overrated.

Re:I like the form factor (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34071644)

You can get the same thing, except it's by a chinese company and it's only a third of the price. Search eBay for terms like "7 inch tablet".

resistive? (4, Interesting)

bhcompy (1877290) | more than 3 years ago | (#34069854)

Resistive? I'm in. I love resistive. You can use a real stylus and get accurate results. Summary just sold me on a new device for note taking in lectures as my ~3" HTC Kaiser is just too damn small.

Re:resistive? (2, Informative)

emj (15659) | more than 3 years ago | (#34069886)

All cheap android tablets are resistive. I've seen people say good things about wits a81e [houseofdap.com] , also a resistive and the Android versions has been shipping since june/july I think.

Re:resistive? (4, Informative)

rajeevrk (1278022) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070180)

Hmmm... I've been using the with a81E for a month now, and it's been reasonably good. Decent build quality, for a Chinese device. Andeoid 2.2 works like a charm, pretty responsive on the ARM Cortex-A8 cpu. Stability and battery life is still an issue, they cant seem to figure out how to get even the battery-level meter working. IMHO, it's a firmware version or two away from being ready for primetime. Also, on it's resistive touchscreens, i have to say it's emminently usable, IF you calibrate it properly. I once messed up the calibration so bad, i had to re-flash :)

Re:resistive? (1)

modmans2ndcoming (929661) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070532)

capacitive can use a real stylus. it just needs to have special conductive material for the tip that conducts the electrical signal of your skin to the point. They used them at the apple store for signing credit purchases.

Re:resistive? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070662)

By "a real stylus" the OP means "whatever pointy stick that happens to be laying around". Therein lies the problem with capacitive touchscreens; you can not use whatever pointy sticks that happens to be laying around. Instead you have to special order one for the cost of a very good lunch, and then sit around for a week not poking your screen until it arrives. Sure you can head up to PlastiMart and pick up a generic one, but you want one with that shiny Banana Computer logo on the side with it's flawless design aesthetics.

Re:resistive? (1)

modmans2ndcoming (929661) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070920)

My finger seems to be pretty handy. They have gloves that conduct capasitivness in the index finger now as well.

Re:resistive? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34071710)

Great. So you have to always wear those special gloves whenever you need gloves. Let's also see how long you can do handwriting or drawing with just your fingers.

And FYI, Writing On Capacitive vs Resistive Screens [youtube.com]

Re:resistive? (1)

bhcompy (1877290) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070754)

capacitive can use a real stylus. it just needs to have special conductive material for the tip that conducts the electrical signal of your skin to the point. They used them at the apple store for signing credit purchases.

the ones ive seen for cap screens are fat like fingers. they are not like fine point pens, like normal stylii

Re:resistive? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34071674)

Yes but all capacitive styluses suck. They are those fat, soft, marker-like deals. That's not even mentioning the fact that a capacitive screen cannot truly measure pressure for sketching/drawing nor that a capacitive screen is just not as accurate (resolution of 1024x1024 compared to resistive's 4096x4096) and has a slower response time. You can also touch/hold a resistive screen without activating anything and they can be used very similarly to physical buttons without requiring you to completely lift your finger off of the screen to register multiple presses.

Honestly, capacitive is lame. It's an old technology that basically every Synaptics touchpad has used for the past 15 years or more. The only reason some people go out of their way to look for them is because of the hype around iPhone/iPad and because they don't understand the numerous disadvantages they actually have.

slate ? I prefer to buy a tablet. (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34069876)

I thought the difference was

slate - runs windows
tablet - runs linux/android
pad - runs osx

I think tablet is the generic term and usable without threat of lawsuit

Re:slate ? I prefer to buy a tablet. (4, Interesting)

bmo (77928) | more than 3 years ago | (#34069948)

I'd like to see Apple try to defend its "ownership" of the word "pad" against a company that thinks it's worth its while to wrest it from Apple's clutches.

Merely descriptive words are not supposed to be trademarks, and Microsoft almost lost theirs for the word "Windows" to Lindows/Linspire when Microsoft said that changing the name to Linspire wasn't good enough. Microsoft pushed too hard. Linspire said in court "hey, just one second here, can you really own a generic descriptive word?" Microsoft wound up paying Linspire to shut the hell up about it.

And then Linspire proceeded to squander the money, but hey, it was funny to watch Microsoft almost lose "Windows" entirely.

--
BMO

Re:slate ? I prefer to buy a tablet. (2, Informative)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070026)

> Merely descriptive words are not supposed to be trademarks...

Descriptive words can be trademarks for products they don't describe: APPLE for example. You would have to show that "pad" was commonly used to describe that sort of device before Apple started selling theirs.

Re:slate ? I prefer to buy a tablet. (2, Funny)

SlothDead (1251206) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070250)

They were always called "pad" on Star Trek. Or does that count as future use of the word?

Re:slate ? I prefer to buy a tablet. (3, Informative)

mattack2 (1165421) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070452)

No, they're PADD on Star Trek.

http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/PADD [memory-alpha.org]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LCARS [wikipedia.org]

Re:slate ? I prefer to buy a tablet. (1)

the_humeister (922869) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070618)

Although true, they still sound the same. When saying either "pad" or "PADD", there's no real way of distinguishing the two.

Re:slate ? I prefer to buy a tablet. (1)

mattack2 (1165421) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070708)

You're right, I should have mentioned the homophonic issue.

Re:slate ? I prefer to buy a tablet. (2, Interesting)

bmo (77928) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070612)

Pad describes the form factor, such as a legal pad.

There are only so many ways to describe the form factor of the ipad. Tablet, slate, pad, and... what else?

Apple can trademark an "iPad," because when you append letters and mis-spell, you no longer have an English (or other language) word. I (and the vast majority of people) have no problem with this. This is what many marketers get paid lots of bucks to do. For a long time, this was the only way you could get a trademark as purely English words were not allowed to have a trademark. I'm unsure when the use of purely English words was allowed, but it was a bad idea and it's caused no small amount of trouble since then.

For Apple to stretch the concept and claim the word "pad" for themselves is abuse of trademark and they should be slapped for it if they try to bring it to court.

Slashdotters get upset here at Monster Cable for suing an indoor golf business (and a lot of other small businesses that can't afford to defend themselves) by Monster Cable claiming the use of the word Monster in the name is exclusively theirs. We should get similarly upset at Apple if they try to claim the word "pad" for only their products.

--
BMO

Re:slate ? I prefer to buy a tablet. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34071352)

On the trademark issue: 'How the FUCK did Lucas get a trademark on Droid?' Was there never a contraction of it prior to Star Wars, given that Asimov had been using the term android for going on 50(?) years at that point? Furthermore, does Asimov's family have a trademark on Android, and have they leveraged it against all those japanese companies attempting to produce them now for licensing costs associated with their printed advertising materials?!?!?

Re:slate ? I prefer to buy a tablet. (1)

Sleepy (4551) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070448)

The term "window" or "windows" is as generic as software "applications", or for non computer comparisons, "car" or "beer". You can call your products car or beer, but you can't CLAIM that as a trademark (especially if you were not the first to market).

Microsoft was denied the trademark for MANY years, but sadly government institutions like Patents and Trademark were handed over to lobbyists, and instead of being led by legal experts they were led by political appointees. (If you think I'm exaggerating, try to find any apointee in recent decades who was not a former "corporate IP lobbyist")

Here's a quick link to the 1993 episode of Microsoft's trademark decline. They failed many years before, and just kept re-filing knowing that the patent office would eventually change from it's policy of minimizing monopolies, to one that granted monopolies.

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/02/25/business/microsoft-trademark-setback.html [nytimes.com]

Re:slate ? I prefer to buy a tablet. (3, Insightful)

robogun (466062) | more than 3 years ago | (#34071004)

IBM and Lenovo have been making ThinkPad computers since 1992, but Jobs probably would try for it anyway.

Re:slate ? I prefer to buy a tablet. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070374)

Wrong again, LinFag. My HP TABLET runs Windows are predates your latest craze by over a half decade. Get your head out of your ass and you'd know that tablets are nothing new. Fuck, I thought only dirty hippies and urban fags thought tablets were new. I thought Slashdorks were more intelligent than that. I guess you fuckers all fooled me.

Re:slate ? I prefer to buy a tablet. (1)

arkane1234 (457605) | more than 3 years ago | (#34071464)

What the hell are you spouting on about?
Someone needs to get him back into his room, sheez...

Holy design, Batman. (2, Funny)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 3 years ago | (#34069896)

Does anyone know how design patent suits work? Because this thing looks incredibly like an iPad. Check out the photos underneath the video—that black thing is similar a patch seen on the back of iPod touches where the camera would be. The back is curved in the same way, the bezel is similar... and I think the corner radius is about the same, too.

Re:Holy design, Batman. (2, Insightful)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 3 years ago | (#34069924)

Considering it's a scam and will never ship I don't think Apple will have to go too far to stop them.

Re:Holy design, Batman. (2, Interesting)

Nerdfest (867930) | more than 3 years ago | (#34069980)

There are a series of 7" Android devices already shipping in the $100 range. They're similar to this but run version 1.5 or 1.6. The processor is generally slower as well. They should be able to actually ship for this price.

Re:Holy design, Batman. (4, Informative)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070018)

I'm not saying that this price range is out of the question, just that, as noted in another post in this thread, Cherrypal has a history of not shipping orders. [google.com]

Re:Holy design, Batman. (4, Insightful)

bmo (77928) | more than 3 years ago | (#34069982)

And you think that Apple's design and form factor of the iPad is somehow groundbreaking?

Go read the paper on the Dynabook concept from the 70s. Right down to the capacitive screen.

There is no intellectual property here. All the big thinking was done 40 years ago at PARC.

--
BMO

Re:Holy design, Batman. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070268)

Yes, that's why Apple had such a hard time breaking into the 'tablet' market, with all of those competing tab...er...wait.

Re:Holy design, Batman. (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070276)

It's good for Apple's shareholders that the folks at the patent office haven't seen the Pirates of Silicon Valley.

Re:Holy design, Batman. (1)

BigFootApe (264256) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070746)

Go watch 2001 again.

Re:Holy design, Batman. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070110)

Does anyone know how design patent suits work?

Yes. First, make up some shit to patent.Second, call a lawyer. Third, file a suit in west Texas. Its so easy. Thats why everyone is doing it.

Re:Holy design, Batman. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070324)

East Texas, specifically Marshall, TX

Re:Holy design, Batman. (1)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070418)

Sorry, gringo: design patent != patent. They're more like trademarks on physical shape meant to stop counterfeiting.

Re:Holy design, Batman. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070212)

that black thing is similar a patch seen on the back of iPod touches where the camera would be. The back is curved in the same way, the bezel is similar... and I think the corner radius is about the same, too.

My car's hood is sloped downwards towards the front, it has lights on the front, the trunk opens upwards, the windows go up and down, the steering wheel turns... it has to be a patent suit in the making. It's just like the last car I owned!

Zune is brown; iPod is Braun. (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070298)

There's a difference. The car has a 20-year-old antecedent. The industrial design of iDevices does not necessarily, except for those elements borrowed from Dieter Rams's work for Braun [gizmodo.com] .

Re:Holy design, Batman. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34071446)

...this thing looks incredibly like an iPad...

What's the name of the malady, when all your perceptions relate back to a specific brand name?

CherryPad? (1)

ickleberry (864871) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070164)

I lost my CherryPad

Re:CherryPad? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070266)

That's alright, you can get your CherryPad replaced [wikipedia.org]

Re:CherryPad? (1)

niftydude (1745144) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070820)

Damn cherrypad popping daddies...

I find it interesting what people seem to want (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070218)

It always comes back to a cheap open source iPad. iPad will never be open source so I think most are doomed to a lot of frustration. Rather than stressing about finding a cheapie knock off either deal with the expense and limitations of an iPad or be happy with your smart phone and laptop. This mythical cheap open source device is never going to happen. Either the hardware will be crap or the UI. Deal with it and let's get on with our lives.

Re:I find it interesting what people seem to want (1)

lamapper (1343009) | more than 3 years ago | (#34071082)

It always comes back to a cheap open source iPad. ... This mythical cheap open source device is never going to happen. Either the hardware will be crap or the UI. Deal with it and let's get on with our lives.

To the iPad specifically but first....a cheap open source device is never going to happen... Already has. Two years ago when you could pick up a netbook running Linux with 512MB of RAM for $300. So Cheap open source devices have already happened.

In 2006, I purchased a Nokia N800, Full Linux hand-held and saw the future there. Granted it was not super cheap in 2006, but certainly is today. I still run a server with only 128MB of RAM, of course it does not do a whole lot, but can still run MySQL and PHP. Just don't ask it to serve thousands of clients, I don't.

The point is you put 512MB of RAM on an embedded device with Root access so that you can configure and install what you want and it most certainly will do most of what a person would do with a 'phone' size device...in fact it would do more. A whole lot more, simply because I can put on whatever database I need (does not have to be a full blown SQL today, does it) PHP and if I want to get fancy, Python, Ruby, etc... Exactly what limitations would I have...I don't see any.

So your premise that you can not get a cheap open source device, is wrong....was wrong years ago and is even more wrong today.

It always comes back to a cheap open source iPad. ...

Now I promised I would come back to the iPad specifically. I would suggest that if you put at least 512MB of RAM, (preferably1GB of RAM) and allow for 'swappable' Micro SDs like the Nokia N800 does. We can put those in a USB adapter and use them on other computers as I do with my camera now and have for years. And I am only using 4GB SDs, they make 16GB, 32GB...probably more by now, I have not looked. Some of the new tablets have full blown USB ports. For good measure a Gigabyte Ethernet port would be nice. All of them seem to have WiFi, Bluetooth and a couple offer cellular.

I could give a crap about cellular as I have been using only WiFi + VoIP since I purchased the Nokia N800 and love it. I save enough money to purchase a new computer every year and is only one reason I think Skype VoIP was the single biggest technological improvement since 2000. This one product has done more for my life than any other and there have been allot of technological improvements over the last 10 years.

The Nokia N900 had Cellular, WiFi and Bluetooth day one when it came out, now many of the tablets are offering cellular as well. So its already been done and in a form factor smaller than an iPad for those who want that. Personally I see a need for both a pocket smart embedded Linux device / PIM / phone as well as a tablet size smart Linux embedded device. So can it be done, absolutely...again its already been done. But back to the iPad like Linux tablets...

Here are some that are either out already or coming soon:

Order now [slashdot.org] for $500 and its Root-able!
The Joo Joo [linuxfordevices.com] (shipping despite the legal complaints w/ Crunchpad) Processor: Intel Atom N270, 1GB RAM; 4GB SSD Flash; WiFi(802.11b/g), Bluetooth, Camera (Video), USB, Speakers, Mic, only a 12.1” 1366 x 768, 1080p screen. Good: 1GB Ram, USB, WiFi, 1080p, Video; Bad: smaller screen, Adobe Flash. Wish list: 2GB RAM memory, larger screen, Ethernet port; The joo joo is rootable, the Intel Atom foundation should mean that users can wipe the Linux-based stack provided by Fusion Garage, and replace it with another Linux OS, Windows, or another x86-ready operating system. Root Access? Absolutely, and based on the processor and the GPU, my guess is you could install any Linux distro on it. [linuxfordevices.com]

The Linux distros, more than one, already exist for these devices memory foot print wise, all we need is a device that allows root access and we are there today....and more are coming, if not in the next two months (2010), definitely next year.... A betting person would certainly not go to Vegas and bet against that if they wanted to hold onto their money.

... its about freedom...

The iPad is a very cool device. A friend of mine has one. And it most certainly is impressive. For me, I will always wait for the open source device, no matter how long, not because I do not want to pay the extra tax for the Mac product, but simply because I do not want to be limited to what I can and can not install on the device. Its not about the money for me, not any more, its about the freedom to use the device as I see fit, period....

Anyone who purchases any device that artificially prevents true Linux root access is crazy, short sighted and penny wise and dollar foolish in my opinion. Not going to do it.

More and more consumers are getting sick and tired of being told when to upgrade (when to spend more money and take a chance on trashing their working device) and what we can and can not do with the products we purchased. We paid for it, its ours, leave our devices alone! Their (proprietary companies) market share is only going to dwindle, but not significantly any time soon. As for me I will wait until I get a Linux root-able device as anything else is a waste of my hard earned money.

Give me freedom or give me death!

And do not forget these other Android offerings:

Acer is plenty of offering a family of tablet computers this month [linuxfordevices.com] , $299 - $699. Not sure if it will be root-able or not.

Acer is planning to add a 10 inch tablet to their 7 inch Android offering 4th quarter (this year, 2010, or next?) [linuxfordevices.com]

Back in January at CES [linuxfordevices.com] , HP unveiled a Qualcomm Snapdragon-based Android "smartbook" prototype while also announcing three netbooks using Intel's N450 Pineview processor that support SUSE Linux: the Mini 210, Mini 2102, and Mini 5102. If it will run SUSE Linux, it will run others, no problem.

At CES, Nvidia showed five prototypes of Tegra 250-based tablets, two of which are said to run Android [linuxfordevices.com] : Notion Ink's Adam and the Ultra from Innovative Converged Devices (ICD). We covered the Ultra (pictured at left) earlier today in a separate story, here, that also covered ICD's 15.6-inch Android tablet/kitchen computer.

And do not forget the promise of the Tegra 250, The Tegra 250 offers up to four times the performance of the previous Tegras, and can easily handle 1080p video playback, claims Nvidia. The Tegra 250 includes eight independent processors overall, which may be "used together or independently to optimize power usage at all times," says Nvidia. The SoC is said to incorporate a dual-core version of ARM's Cortex-A9, clocked at up to 1GHz. [linuxfordevices.com]

No Linux Root Access = Dumb device!

I know for a fact that there is one other root-able Linux tablet that is coming out of Asia that is not mentioned above, I first read about it over 5 months ago. So I am sure its out and shipping already. Fully root-able, fully configurable as any smart device must be to be considered smart!

I have always said that if you have only two choices, you have NO CHOICE. Above I have listed, five...and there our more.

So can we stop saying that there will never be an inexpensive Linux clone of the iPad, as that ship has sailed and you can order one today and more are coming before the end of 2010.

What might next year hold? I for one am looking forward to it.

Thanks to Linux I can have a cloud in my home, a phone in my pocket that has full PHP/PIM capabilities and now a tablet, oh yea the future is looking bright. And the future promises even more freedom! Its about time....

Now if I could have Fiber To The Home, FTTH and I would finally have decent bandwidth!

Get the HSG X5A (1)

LynnwoodRooster (966895) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070240)

YouTube review video [youtube.com] . You can get them for around $140, a little less if you're in China (Taobao is your friend!). Android 2.1, 256 MB RAM, 4 GB Flash, full-size SD slot (32 GB goodness loaded in mine), glass screen, metal body, lasts for at least 8 hours of book reading or at least 2 movies (so far, that's all I've ever used it for at one time, on a long plane flight). Same 7" screen which is great for most uses, resistive screen is plenty responsive (and perfect for doing quick sketches and note taking, which I do a lot of), HDMI output, and it has two USB ports, the mini USB being an OTG port as well. Games, music, movies, books - great little entertainment device for a LOT less money than an iPad.

Re:Get the HSG X5A (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070550)

Do you know of any such such tablets that run Android 2.2? Need this for running Skritter. From taobao is fine...

Re:Get the HSG X5A (1)

LynnwoodRooster (966895) | more than 3 years ago | (#34071116)

Not at this point, but the local electronics shop in Metro City (Shanghai, Xujiahui district) says that HSG will have a 2.2 update for the X5A before the end of the year, and it'll be a free install for X5A owners...

I thought this was a Cherry Pal? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070306)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chastity_belt

Cheap as dirt? (1)

markov_chain (202465) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070352)

I'm not surprised they are from Palo Alto, $188 is probably a reasonable price for dirt there :D

huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070430)

"Speakers 1 high quality stereo speaker"

i might not be up to par on my audio terms, but...i dun get it.

800 mhz 256 meg ram pc is cheaper (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070446)

does more for me too

Re:800 mhz 256 meg ram pc is cheaper (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070526)

But how easily can you carry it with you?

You can buy this right now for around $100 (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070702)

Its called a "Pandigital Novel" and it can be bought at Kohls with coupons and the right sale at around a hundred bucks.

Fifteen minutes to flash it with your choice of a half dozen different Android 2.0 images from Slatedroid, and bobs your uncle.

Work on 2.1 and 2.2 on the PDN is underway.

I have one, and its a perfectly workable browsing/email tool. Only problem is that everywhere I take it, people ask me a million questions about what it is and if they can buy one already done up with the firmware mods.

Re:You can buy this right now for around $100 (1)

Eil (82413) | more than 3 years ago | (#34071078)

The specs may be similar, but the tablet reviewed in TFA is definitely a different device.

Cherrypal loves the mayor (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070738)

Apparently, they strongly endorse the mayor of Palo Alto.

From their website:

"Unlike other manufacturers we never experienced any mayor quality issues with our products ..."

http://www.cherrypal.com/store.htm

Got the Mono? (2, Funny)

WCVanHorne (897068) | more than 3 years ago | (#34070784)

I don't know if I trust a company that prints the spec: "Speakers 1 high quality stereo speaker:"

Obligatory (1)

istartedi (132515) | more than 3 years ago | (#34071096)

Narrator: IN A.D. 2010, WAR WAS BEGINNING.

Captain: What Happen?

Mechanic: Somebody set up us the Cherry BOMB.

Opeartor: WE GET WiFi SIGNAL.

Captain: WHAT !!

Operator: All your lameness filter are belong to us.

You will not type the rest of this parody because you
are too lazy to fix it.

Mark your time.

Operator: Medium-sized SCREEN TURN ON.

Will try one (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34070980)

Sort of what I am looking for, a cheap device to show photos take notes, pass time on a plane with simple games, ect. At this price point, why not? Just pulled the trigger on one. Price has been such a reason to stay away from the ipad. I know, its so far from perfect, but its a toy, no way I would pay $5-600 for an ipad toy, but this, why not?

Do not purchase from this company (5, Insightful)

LurkersA (1495713) | more than 3 years ago | (#34071072)

Do not purchase from this company. I ordered one of their $99 netbooks earlier in the year, and it never showed up. I tried to contact the company via email and phone on several occasions and no contact was ever made. My bank eventually reversed the transaction, but it was still a major pain in the ass. Google yields plenty of results for people with similar experiences from this company.

A Perfect Gucci Handbag For You (-1, Offtopic)

tomiy (1931644) | more than 3 years ago | (#34071088)

Handbags are always popular among ladies. Famous brands are everywhere, which one is your favourite? If you have never bought one of Gucci handbags [cheap-wholesaler.com] , then it may be your new try.

Re:A Perfect Gucci Handbag For You (0, Offtopic)

wjsteele (255130) | more than 3 years ago | (#34071456)

Is this really offtopic? If Slashdot can post an article on a cheap chinese knockoff device, why can't one of the posters respond with a cheap knockoff handbag to hold it in?

Free Shipping - Delivering Good Service (0, Offtopic)

tomiy (1931644) | more than 3 years ago | (#34071110)

One can obtain from our secure online store with free shipping and fast delivery, discount and high quality.

Hmm. Tough decision (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34071132)

Do I want a slick, nicely designed piece of hardware with well thought out software, or do I want some rip off piece of junk hardware with crappy software that was slapped together in no time?

Yeah it's cheaper, but so is that $10 drill from Walmart, that doesn't mean I want to replace my Makita with it.

Its not the only one.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34071286)

Here's one "available" retail in the UK which is certainly from the same litter as the CherryPad, better specified memorywise but not so good with regard to processor speed and rather cheaper at 90 quid (about 145 dollars). [toysrus.co.uk]

I like the look of the next one up: eTouch 10" Android Tablet PC [toysrus.co.uk] which looks a more capable thing all round, apart from the abysmal battery life. At 150 quid, it works out at about 240 dollars.

Note the damn things are at ToysRUs and are out of stock. Either the Christmas supplies aren't in yet, or people want something that looks a lot like Apple product, has the features they want and comes in at a third of Apple prices (at least here in the UK).

Looks like this is at least the SEASON of both the Tablet PC AND Linux in the hand!

EBay is filled with these things (1)

DrXym (126579) | more than 3 years ago | (#34071310)

Some factory in China is pumping out cheapo Android pads in a variety of styles and selling them wholesale for $80 each. Usually they're called aPads or Eken books and I've seen a number of announcements (e.g. Next [bit-tech.net] are flogging a 10" variant for £180) which are obviously based on these. Indeed ebay is full of the generic 7" and 10" aPad / eken tablets. If you're determined you'll be able to buy a 7" one for $100. Although I don't expect they are anything to write home about, they are a herald of things to come.

There will a some perfectly usable tablets in the $200-299 range before long and I expect they will fulfill most of the things the iPad is bought for but a fraction of the price.

More junk advertising? (1)

wjsteele (255130) | more than 3 years ago | (#34071452)

Seriously? Why is Slashdot advertising that piece of crap? It's ANOTHER knockoff Chinese clone... similar to the Augen Tablet and a thousand other clones, but more expensive.

Bill

Be carefull buying these el-cheapo tablets (2, Interesting)

jonwil (467024) | more than 3 years ago | (#34071740)

A number of these companies (especially those where the original product comes from China) continue to violate the GPL as applied to the Android Linux kernel.

Now some people may not care about such things but this is /. so I hope people here care :)

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