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iPhone Alarm Bug Leads To Mass European Sleep-in

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the yeah-it-was-my-phone dept.

Iphone 487

nk497 writes "A flaw in the alarm clock in iPhone 4s gave Europeans a bit of a lie-in this morning. While the Apple handsets automatically adjusted to daylight savings time, a bug in the alarm system meant many were woken up an hour later than they should have been, after clocks rolled back over the weekend. Annoyingly, Australia was hit by a similar problem last month, but Apple failed to fix the problem or even warn users. American Apple fans, consider yourselves warned. The iOS4 bug can apparently be avoided by using one-off alarms, rather than pre-set regular wake-up calls."

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Not just iPhone 4s (4, Informative)

Vectormatic (1759674) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088550)

my girlfriends 3gs (running iOS 4.x) had the same bug this morning.

Fortunately, my $99 android phone woke us up at the right time

Re:Not just iPhone 4s (2, Interesting)

blai (1380673) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088598)

Where did you get a $99 android phone?

If it were subsidised, I would like you to say it.

Re:Not just iPhone 4s (2, Informative)

Vectormatic (1759674) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088664)

not subsidised, it was 99 euros prepaid at vodafone

the vodafone 845 nova (or huawei 8120 "joy", as it is know in china), is a pretty basic little phone, QVGA resistive touch screen, 128mb ram, android 2.1

I love it though, in a few days i'll upgrade to an htc desire, but even with the added features, i am not sure i wont be dissapointed. the 845 is just excellent bang for the buck

Re:Not just iPhone 4s (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34088666)

I got an HTC Hero (2 months used) for CAD$130 (USD$125) so I think this is possible.

Re:Not just iPhone 4s (4, Funny)

nblender (741424) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088836)

Screw the android... I wanna know how he got a girlfriend...

Re:Not just iPhone 4s (1, Funny)

TheLink (130905) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088872)

How about screw the android girlfriend instead?

Re:Not just iPhone 4s (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34088876)

Maybe his girlfriend is also an android?

Re:Not just iPhone 4s (2, Funny)

zwarte piet (1023413) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089002)

Does she run Linux?

Re:Not just iPhone 4s (2, Funny)

Vectormatic (1759674) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089076)

unfortunately not..

When we got together she actually had sony *shudder* vaio *gag* laptop running vista *pukes*

Re:Not just iPhone 4s (1, Funny)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088608)

If you and your girlfriend aren't careful, you'll get Baby 1.0. That'll wake you up very early, and without fail.

Re:Not just iPhone 4s (4, Funny)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088658)

If you and your girlfriend aren't careful, you'll get Baby 1.0. That'll wake you up very early, and without fail.

No, they're as safe as houses. They use the iPhone rhythm method app for contraception so what could possibly go wron.... oh wait.

Re:Not just iPhone 4s (0)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088610)

my girlfriends 3gs (running iOS 4.x) had the same bug this morning.

Fortunately, my $99 android phone woke us up at the right time

Thank God you have such a cheap but still powerful Android phone. God I hate Apple with their time zone bug. /chimes in ;)

Re:Not just iPhone 4s (5, Funny)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088632)

my girlfriends 3gs (running iOS 4.x) had the same bug this morning.

Fortunately, my $99 android phone woke us up at the right time

I am sure that Apple will fix it shortly, then patent alarm clock apps for mobile phones that adjust automatically for daylight savings.

Re:Not just iPhone 4s (2, Funny)

bemymonkey (1244086) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088958)

Too late, my Desire adjusted automatically and woke me. Prior art? :P

Re:Not just iPhone 4s (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34089106)

LIAR!!!

No one on slashdot has a girlfriend, much less one that lets them sleep in the same bed.

Or at least it would have... (4, Funny)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088738)

If the battery had not died overnight.

Re:Not just iPhone 4s (2, Informative)

mikeroySoft (1659329) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088764)

I just got a new iPhone 4 via advance-replacement repair. I'm in Canada, EST, and the alarm has been going off an hour early since Friday. Beats an hour too late I guess...

Re:Not just iPhone 4s (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089060)

Let me guess: yet another stupid programmer who decided that "french language means France"?

Re:Not just iPhone 4s (1)

zwei2stein (782480) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088838)

Funny, MY android phone woke me up one hour early.

Gotta fix that bug this evening.

Another day (2, Insightful)

pablo_max (626328) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088556)

and another ridiculous Apple story makes it to the front page.

Re:Another day (1, Insightful)

jra (5600) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088596)

"Hey, you might be late to work and get fired next Monday cause you have poor taste in cellphone manufacturers" is a ridiculous story?

Re:Another day (4, Insightful)

Americano (920576) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088652)

Yes, its a ridiculous story.

Get a proper alarm clock for redundancy if you're in a job so sensitive that oversleeping once will get you fired, even with no history of tardiness.

If you're really paranoid, make it a wind-up clock so you don't have to worry about losing power.

Re:Another day (1)

Vectormatic (1759674) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088846)

the first solution that came to mind for power-loss problems was a UPS for me.... (actually, most electronic alarm clocks i had featured a bay for a 9v battery to keep it running in case of a power failure)

Re:Another day (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089036)

actually, most electronic alarm clocks i had featured a bay for a 9v battery to keep it running in case of a power failure

Same, but they didn’t actually work while the power was out. They just kept time. The display went dark, though, and the alarm wouldn’t go off if the power was out.

Re:Another day (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089096)

I've got my alarm clock plugged into a UPS. Annoyingly, if the power fails, the UPS starts beeping, and it will keep on beeping once a minute until the power is restored. There's no alarm off switch. So if the power fails in the middle of the night, I wind up shutting the UPS off.

Re:Another day (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34088942)

I have a proper alarm clock and it adjusted itself for daylight savings time the other day! The clock sets the time based on radio signals, so I assume that it is programmed to change on a certain date.

Re:Another day (1)

cacba (1831766) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089090)

Where did it say people were fired? Its just alarm clocks should work or they are useless.

Re:Another day (1)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089100)

Until you forget to wind it.

We all know that forgetting things leads to Post-It Note Nightmare [cybernetnews.com] No, this is not a solution.

Re:Another day (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34088646)

It's not ridiculous. It's too late!
/. is too poorly represented in australia

Sheesh (5, Funny)

AdmiralXyz (1378985) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088582)

What a bunch of whiners. Apple tries to do something nice for you, give you a little more time in the morning, and this is how you thank them?

Re:Sheesh (5, Funny)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088718)

You know... that sounds awfully familiar...

Are you saying that it's not, in fact, a bug?

And that it could be, instead, a feature?

Re:Sheesh (5, Funny)

Stewie241 (1035724) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088820)

No, rather that it's a problem that all cell phones have because of the nature of the technology.

First Post! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34088592)

Well, maybe not, but my alarm didn't go off on its regular time.

First post! (4, Funny)

A beautiful mind (821714) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088612)

I would have gotten a first post if it wouldn't be for those meddling kids at Apple!

Re:First post! (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089080)

Old Man Withers!

Is this story for real? (0)

js3 (319268) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088644)

I had no idea millions of people used their phone as an alarm clock.

Re:Is this story for real? (1, Redundant)

amalcolm (1838434) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088686)

My Dell Streak, running Android, gave me my 6:30 regular alarm, no problem YMMV

Re:Is this story for real? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34088770)

I'm with you. If you're staying in a strange place, like a friend's house, then sure it could be useful. But if you're sleeping in your own bed, get a dedicated alarm clock. Then you can save your phone battery life.

Re:Is this story for real? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34088914)

I'm with you. If you're staying in a strange place, like a friend's house, then sure it could be useful. But if you're sleeping in your own bed, get a dedicated alarm clock. Then you can save your phone battery life.

Or, you charge your phone [ihomeaudio.com] at night and use it as an alarm clock at the same time. Just sayin'.

Re:Is this story for real? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34089004)

I work rotating shift work with a lot of overtime, so my phone is one among several of my alarms (including my watch and two alarm clocks). I'm also a very heavy sleeper, so I need a lot of agitation to get me up. In total, I have 3 alarms on my watch, 6 on my phone, and 2 on each of my alarm clocks. I need them all.

Re:Is this story for real? (3, Funny)

fredmosby (545378) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088782)

I use mine as an alarm clock. A few weeks ago my brother was asleep on the couch and I couldn't wake him up by calling his name, or poking him in the face, so I set the alarm on my iPhone and it woke him up.

Re:Is this story for real? (2, Informative)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088806)

I had no idea millions of people used their phone as an alarm clock.

Well, companies like iHome [ihomeaudio.com] make clock radios and the like that are meant for it. They even make a nice app for i(Phone|Pad) which allows for multiple alarms with sleep music and wake music.

When I traveled on business last, I was pleased to discover that both hotels I stayed in had these and I could use my iPod in the hotel, as well as my iPad propped up on the nightstand. Charging your iPhone and using it as an alarm is fairly easy with these.

Once you have a device with all of your calendaring and email on it, using it as an alarm clock isn't a big stretch. Heck, even my several year old iPod nano has built in alarms that will work if you're in a docking station.

I'm not sure why you might even be remotely surprised by this.

Re:Is this story for real? (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088832)

I had no idea millions of people used their phone as an alarm clock.

Works better than my clock radio because it's always nearby, easier to set, I can change the alarm noise to something jarring if needed, and I can set it in the middle of the day when I find out I need to get to work early the next day (instead of waiting until I get home and hoping I remember).

Re:Is this story for real? (1)

teslar (706653) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088866)

Yup, they do. It's quite convenient, actually - if you have a mobile phone, why invest extra money in an alarm clock? Mobile phone alarms go off even when the phone is switched off (at least I haven't found a phone for which this isn't true yet). Most phones allow you to schedule your alarms in a more comprehensive way than typical alarm clocks. I have a non-smart, very basic phone (Sony Ericsson w890i) and even on that, I can set multiple alarms and specify for each of them what day of the week they're allowed to go off. I basically never have to worry about (un)setting an alarm - it goes off like it should on weekdays and stays silent at weekends. I also like the fact that it makes my bedroom pitch black - no lights anywhere. Although I realise that completely dark alarm clocks also exist, of course.

So, to summarise - mobile phone alarms do everything a normal alarm clock does plus more and it all comes for free since you likely already have a mobile phone. Why have a normal alarm clock? The one argument I could see is that you want your phone switched off, yet your ability to know the time, even at night, intact. In that case, fair enough.

Re:Is this story for real? (5, Insightful)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088972)

I don't know anybody under the age of thirty who doesn't use their phone as an alarm clock.

Re:Is this story for real? (1)

TheKidWho (705796) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089042)

It's true. I use my mobile phone as an alarm every day, and I've been doing so for about 5 years now.

Re:Is this story for real? (4, Interesting)

ais523 (1172701) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089158)

I use a Nintendo DS as an alarm clock (because it's one of the few things I have to hand that I remember to keep the battery charged on...) and it woke me an hour early today (I'm in Europe). I wonder why the iPhone bug went the other way?

Nexus One rulez! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34088650)

Hm interesting ... my Nexus One calculated that I will have 1 hour more to sleep
when I was setting alarm the night before the switch happened.

My old school phone... (1)

cronco (1435465) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088672)

I have a very low-end Huawei phone that doesn't auto-update it's clock to account for daylight savings and it woke me up an hour earlier than it should have.

Real bug: changing the time (5, Insightful)

noidentity (188756) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088682)

The real bug is that we change the time at all, considering all the problems it brings.

Re:Real bug: changing the time (1, Funny)

garcia (6573) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088808)

Well that's what we get for coming up with this nonsense that the Sun doesn't rotate around the Earth!

Re:Real bug: changing the time (1)

A beautiful mind (821714) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088856)

Absolutely. It's a net loss economically and all those people who like the "longer" hours, would still have them at summer without DST. Just the simplification of software would be worth the benefit.

Re:Real bug: changing the time (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34088874)

Daylight savings saves (hence the name) billions every year in electricity costs. I live in a country that doesn't implement daylight savings, and while it's nice not to have to worry about changing clocks, it's utterly stupid becuase in summer it gets light at 4:30am and the sun goes down at 7:30pm at the latest. Moving that hour of light from 4:30-5:30am and tacking it on to 7:30pm-8:30pm saves a lot of utilities and has all sorts of beneficial effects like reducing car accident rates. The British in WWII set their clocks two hours ahead all year long to save on scace resources in order to defeat national socialism.

It's also a real bummer to be out at the bar all night long and see streaks of sunrise peeking up..."damn it's only 4:30, we have an hour and a half of partying left before we even start thinking about breakfast!"

Re:Real bug: changing the time (4, Insightful)

kidgenius (704962) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088944)

The British in WWII set their clocks two hours ahead all year long to save on scace resources in order to defeat national socialism.

So why not just leave it that way if you can save resources?

Re:Real bug: changing the time (5, Informative)

Aqualung812 (959532) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089072)

Daylight savings saves (hence the name) billions every year in electricity costs."

Incorrect, DST causes more electricity to be used. It is bad for the economy and the environment. [physorg.com] Hint: Air Conditioning uses more power than lights.

Said by somebody... (1, Insightful)

Ga_101 (755815) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088886)

Who most likely doesn't live in the North. I like seeing daylight every now and then.

Re:Said by somebody... (3, Informative)

kidgenius (704962) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088956)

Then take a step outside at noon

This is annoying not only on iPhone (3, Insightful)

balaband (1286038) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088688)

With all new fancy (and not so fancy gadgets), you can NEVER be sure has the damn thing changed the time correctly or not. So you wind up watching weather forecast on TV, only to check the clock in the corner.

Note to engineers everywhere: if your gadget DO change the time, please use some kind of notification that it did so. Otherwise, we can presume that time is wrong, and that we have to manually adjust it

Re:This is annoying not only on iPhone (1)

moronoxyd (1000371) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088900)

Well, with all the fancy gadgets, there's an easy solution:

Just set all your gadgets to the time the majority of them show.
Now, I knew there was a reason why I had that many gadgets.

FYI, the only clocks I had to set this weekend was my old, non-networked alarm clock and the time of my (also non-networked) digital camera. Everythin else knew what to do and did it.

Re:This is annoying not only on iPhone (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089152)

The problem is that the daylight saving dates changed a few years ago. All those gadgets that can't do a firmware updates are helpless.

Not The Whole Story (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34088706)

The story fails to mention several key details.
1. The problem only manifests if you have a recurring alarm set.
2. The alram goes off an hour late if it was set before for DST switch.
3. The alarm goes off an hour early if it was set after the DST switch.

Re:Not The Whole Story (1)

Wonko the Sane (25252) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088754)

That makes a lot more sense. I was wondering why this story wasn't about a bunch of people who woke up early instead of late.

My LCD AC powered clock did just fine (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34088716)

A clock with a 9v backup worked just fine. Who would have guessed?

Why the '!opensource' tag? (0, Offtopic)

Sasayaki (1096761) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088724)

Was this story submitted by RMS? What's with the '!opensource' tag?

Whoever wrote that has obviously never used any open source products, because if that person is under the flat-out delusion that all open source products such as Android and Ubuntu are mysteriously free of strange rarely-occurring or one-time bugs... wow. I want some of whatever she's smoking.

It's snippy, egotistical little things that really piss me off about the open source movement. The benefits of open source isn't a bug free program- it's a program that anyone can change and distribute as they see fit, within the bounds of the licence. (technically, closed source fits the exact same description, except the bounds of the licence are usually extremely tight or completely restrictive).

That kind of attitude only harms the open source movement by making us look (even more) like elitist snobs.

Re:Why the '!opensource' tag? (1)

EricX2 (670266) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088794)

If it was open source it could have been fixed last month when the problem occurred... correct?

Re:Why the '!opensource' tag? (2, Funny)

Americano (920576) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088938)

Yep, and then we could wait for months while the carriers fart around rolling out an update for your particular phone's version of android. If they ever do get around to it.

I mean, "Yay, android and open source. Boo apple."

(am I doin it rite?)

Re:Why the '!opensource' tag? (1)

alvinrod (889928) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088916)

Doesn't matter who you are or what you like, there's going to be a few people in the group that end up making the rest look bad. Look no further than the usual dozens of posts in stories such as this one that are either blatant Apple ass-kissing, or anti-Apple flame that usually isn't even related to the issue at hand.

Some of us like our Macs (or other Apple products) but get annoyed by the people who criticize anyone who uses anything else. Why the hell some people care so much about what kinds of computer devices other people use is beyond me.

Re:Why the '!opensource' tag? (2, Insightful)

moronoxyd (1000371) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088940)

The problem isn't that iOS is not open source, the problem is that Apple didn't fix the bug after it appeared a month ago in Australia.

Responsiveness.... (1)

Apothem (1921856) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088752)

I'm still waiting for the day where these phones will actually have software that someone would want to use. I've yet to see a touchscreen phone with a UI that is as responsive as physical keys.

Re:Responsiveness.... (-1, Flamebait)

Americano (920576) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088796)

It's called an iPhone 4. Just have to live with a minor alarm clock bug.

Now put the cane down gramps, I'm getting off your lawn.

Re:Responsiveness.... (2, Interesting)

alvinrod (889928) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089022)

Just out of curiosity, what kind of software is it that you would want to use?

I only ask this because a while back Apple said that they had already paid out $1 billion to developers. Considering that not all apps cost money and that this doesn't include data from Android phones, which have (or will in the near future) similar numbers of sales, it would appear as though there is a lot of software that people want to use.

daylight savings time (5, Insightful)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088760)

Not one comment yet about the real culprit here: daylight savings time. If we didn't have it anywhere in the world, then programmers wouldn't have to worry about when DST happens in different timezones (or which places have DST and which don't), or worry about what to do with log files or anything else when time jumps an hour.

Someone remind me please what we're saving? It's not electricity, because we use lightbulbs before sunrise and after sunset in summer and winter.

Re:daylight savings time (1)

kidgenius (704962) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089000)

Yes, but you look at a day's schedule for an average person. You wake up, you get ready, and you are off to work, probably less than 2 hours after you've woken up. When you get home, you are most likely awake for something like 4-5 hours before going to bed. So you tend to be at your home longer in the evenings than you are in the morning. Thus, more lighting needed in the evening at your home if you don't have sunlight streaming through your windows.

Re:daylight savings time (1)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089070)

Yes! DST should the culprit. In fact, i would go a bit further, why to have such complex timezones if anyway don't always say when is day and when is night? Lets go all the world to UTC and a fixed clock will work right everywhere, even in space (unless you travel too fast, of course)

But that don't take out the blame from the software. DSTs are around since a century ago, so you have to deal with them. And is something usually well handled by software, unless you have badly defined the timezones or have a coding bug, So if well DSTs could be wrong or right, implementing them badly is Apple's fault.

Re:daylight savings time (1)

marxz (971164) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089078)

recreation time after work... apparently, that's how it's pitched to us... funny I could see that working in Sydney, but not summer , rather for winter, as they live on the east side of their time time zone and they walk out of work in to the pitch black of night during standard time winter, but, Perth folk have, being on the west side of their time zone, a good hour of daylight to commute home in but in summer? meh I don't really get it

Re:daylight savings time (1)

js3 (319268) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089110)

Not one comment yet about the real culprit here: daylight savings time. If we didn't have it anywhere in the world, then programmers wouldn't have to worry about when DST happens in different timezones (or which places have DST and which don't), or worry about what to do with log files or anything else when time jumps an hour.

Someone remind me please what we're saving? It's not electricity, because we use lightbulbs before sunrise and after sunset in summer and winter.

DST does save energy. It may not happen in the place you live but the times for sundown/sunrise does change significantly where I live depending on the time of year. It could be 8pm with the sun still out one part of the year and 5pm in darkness another time of the year. The culprit here is the phone, with auto DST there's no reason for this bug, shame on the programmers. It's a completely silly bug.

Re:daylight savings time (1)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089156)

Think of the Children angle: Daylight Saving Time here makes kids walk home in twilight, where headlights are typically turned on, but totally ineffective for actually improving your view. Couple that with a cloudless day and you get low, bright sun + ineffective lighting + typically dark coloured school uniforms.

!opensource (1)

zill (1690130) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088762)

This would have never happened if iOS was open sourced.

Under a thousand eyes, you won't oversleep.

Hows this bug work? (1)

vlm (69642) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088774)

While the Apple handsets automatically adjusted to daylight savings time, a bug in the alarm system meant many were woken up an hour later than they should have been, after clocks rolled back over the weekend.

How does this bug work?

OK lets work it inductively and assume the phone stores all times internally as local time and trusts the time the cellphone providers send out. So, "spring forward fall back" so your 5am wakeup remains at ... 5am.

Well lets try option 2. Maybe they store it all internally as UTC and get local time from the cellphone tower. So your 5am local daylight time is X UTC. "fall back" to regular time and that wakeup is now X-0100 UTC. The alarm program reads the local time, converts to UTC, and you sleep in one hour. oops.

What mystifies me is that Apple would store the time internally as UTC instead of going pure local time. Not owning an iphone, if you travel east/west across a few timezones, do you have to reprogram all your alerts to the new local timezone which has a new UTC offset?

The other oddity is people use their phone as an alarmclock? A smartphone with a battery life measured in hours, probably dead by wakeup time? I'm with the modern generation in that I haven't worn a wristwatch in over a decade, but is it a generational thing that people don't own/use alarm clocks? What do you glance at, at 2am, when you just want to see the time if you momentarily wake up, etc? Get the tiny little phone, unlock it, put on the glasses/contacts, and read the time?

Re:Hows this bug work? (1)

Wonko the Sane (25252) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088868)

The other oddity is people use their phone as an alarmclock? A smartphone with a battery life measured in hours, probably dead by wakeup time?

I don't use my phone as an alarm clock but I do leave it on the charger overnight.

Re:Hows this bug work? (1)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088898)

This bug don't work, woke up an hour later and got fired.

Re:Hows this bug work? (2, Informative)

musicalmicah (1532521) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088904)

The other oddity is people use their phone as an alarmclock? A smartphone with a battery life measured in hours, probably dead by wakeup time? I'm with the modern generation in that I haven't worn a wristwatch in over a decade, but is it a generational thing that people don't own/use alarm clocks? What do you glance at, at 2am, when you just want to see the time if you momentarily wake up, etc? Get the tiny little phone, unlock it, put on the glasses/contacts, and read the time?

Yes. You plug it in first. Unlocking a phone can generally be done by touch after you've owned it for more than a couple days. And bringing it to your face is a lot easier than sitting up to see the alarm clock if you don't happen to have the right furniture for placing your alarm clock in a better position, which is quite common when you're a 20-something in a cramped apartment. No need to put on glasses, though. At least not for me.

Re:Hows this bug work? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34088934)

I had this bug on my 3gs and figured much the same as you did.

But there's no problem with the battery life. Sure, it's not stellar if you're using it but when you're asleep it's just sitting there. The battery might go down 1% overnight.

If I wake up in the early hours I just press the easy to find button on the phone and it's got huge numbers on it with the time.

We've got a standard clock/radio too tuned to the crap local station to force us to get up and turn the stupid, whittering idiot who hosts the morning show off.

Re:Hows this bug work? (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088996)

The other oddity is people use their phone as an alarmclock? A smartphone with a battery life measured in hours, probably dead by wakeup time? I'm with the modern generation in that I haven't worn a wristwatch in over a decade, but is it a generational thing that people don't own/use alarm clocks?

I'm from your generation, and I used a pocket watch when everyone else used wristwatches (could never stand those things, although I wanted a calculator watch for the geek cred). I have a couple clock radios, but I use them as clocks. My alarm is my phone because it's always around, and the charger is on my nightstand, so it won't run down. I can set my next day's wakeup time at any time during the day, and choose any noise. Maybe the younger set don't even own clock radios, but I think they probably have something to avoid the problems with your other comment regarding fumbling for the phone to check the time.

Cue anti-iphone trolls & "open" android statem (-1, Offtopic)

blahbooboo (839709) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088812)

Yes, I am sure the "open" android based devices wouldn't have this problem (sarcasm). I am sure a patch would be out INSTANTLY and then just wait for one of the many hardware manufacturers to release a patch for your locked device. Given that the hardware manufacturers time to release new versions is usually several months after an android release i am sure it will be timely (LOL).

Perhaps newer devices see patches faster but once your android device is 1yr old the hardware maker has looooong since lost mo4tivation to keep your phone current since that doesn't keep you buying new hardware. Good thing android is open so just upgrade the OS by downloading the OS from google and install on your phone -- oh wait it's locked down too in most countries by the hardware manufacturer.

Face it people, all phone devices are locked down now. Google tried but failed to get us there...

Re:Cue anti-iphone trolls & "open" android sta (1)

shanmuha (668499) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088976)

The nexus one is as unlocked as it gets - I got the latest 2 OS updates OTA not depending on my carrier, direct from google!

Re:Cue anti-iphone trolls & "open" android sta (0, Offtopic)

blahbooboo (839709) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089008)

The nexus one is as unlocked as it gets - I got the latest 2 OS updates OTA not depending on my carrier, direct from google!

Unfortunately, it failed to sell well and was essentially pulled from the market.

iPhones aren't THAT popular over here ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34088826)

a lot of people still use Nokia or HTC smartphones. iPhone penetration is much lower than in the states ... because we like to buy the phones outright and use prepaid SIM/uSIMs.

In fact, I didn't see anyone oversleep ... but then again I'm in Germany and not only is everyone cheap (non iPhones) but they're also steadfastly punctual (unless they work for DB, then they're always 15min late).

Re:iPhones aren't THAT popular over here ... (0, Offtopic)

Americano (920576) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088986)

In fact, I didn't see anyone oversleep

Don't say that, you'll ruin the buzz these people are getting from an early morning apple bash. Now why would you want to go and do that? :(

Time didn't even change on on my phone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34088850)

I have an HTC desire running on Orange and the time never changed. I had to reset it to get the right time.

I do have DST updating enabled.

Is this real? (2)

grrrgrrr (945173) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088888)

My iPhone 3g did not have this problem this morning and I am in Europe. Are there people here who really experienced this?

Jim Furyk (2, Funny)

Trip6 (1184883) | more than 3 years ago | (#34088970)

Hey, Jim Furyk's iPhone made him oversleep and he still won the FedEx cup worth 10 MEEELION dollars, so quitcher whinin!

meanwhile in the wild west of Oz.... (1)

marxz (971164) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089006)

Our work clocks and many computers failed to remember that the western third of the country voted daylight saving/summer time down in to the trash heap of history and promptly told us we all were an hour late turning up for work this morning.... my guess is it will take them ... 4 months maybe?... to fix the clocks and the messed up online calendars.

Saving. Not Savings (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34089034)

It's Daylight Saving Time.
Not Daylight Savings Time.

DST? Which century are we living in? (1)

khchung (462899) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089046)

Not to excuse the iPhone bug, but I never knew about it until I read this story, probably because I live a place without this whole DST business.

But really, which century are we living in here? Why would anyone still wants to adjust their clocks twice a year, and what are we "saving" here exactly?

So what? (1)

franciscohs (1003004) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089088)

Really, these stories are starting to be VERY stupid. When did we start being such crying babies?, in the past if X device didn't serve it's purpose, we would use another thing and be done with it... Yes, I know, devices should work as advertised, blah blah... But the iPhone is not an alarm clock, it HAS an alarm clock function thou. I think the question here is which functions are essential (Phone, for example) and which are just supporting apps and should work as best effort (everything else IMHO). If this weren't the case and the manufacturer was blamed for every little glitch in every application etc etc it wouldn't be possible to market these devices.

new app (1)

Carebears (1867786) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089130)

iLate.

Really overslept (1)

will_die (586523) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089132)

Lets see the time change happened on the night of October 30 to October 31 so if they overslept to the morning on the November 1, then they have more problems then a broken app.

I rarely set my alarm clock (1)

CohibaVancouver (864662) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089150)

I'm always surprised how many people are dependant on alarm clocks... I just go to sleep early enough, such that I wake up naturally in the morning. I usually get up at 6am, so it's lights-out at 10pm. 8 hours later, I wake up. I will use an alarm clock if I need to get up early to catch a flight (i.e. 4am like last week) but even in that case I seem to wake up a few minutes before the alarm goes off.

Main downside is the weekend - My circadian rhythms are set such that I pretty much wake up at 6am seven days a week...

No problems in France (1)

dgilzz (1929066) | more than 3 years ago | (#34089160)

Here in France we never work on November 1st, who's setting an alarm clock on holidays ? And after all, if you've forgotten to turn it off, it's nice to hear it ring one hour later than usually...
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