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With the Jack PC, the Computer's In the Wall!

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the that's-pretty-sweet dept.

Technology 119

cylonlover writes "The Jack PC from Chip PC Technologies offers a neat and novel thin-client desktop computing solution where the computer doesn't just plug into the wall, it is the plug in the wall. Running on power provided by the ethernet cable that also connects it to the data center server, the computer-in-a-wall-socket supports wireless connectivity, has dual display capabilities and runs on the RISC processor architecture."

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Obligitory Hackers reference... (1)

NoxNoctis (936876) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110342)

"RISC is good."

Re:Obligitory Hackers reference... (1)

JavaBear (9872) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110526)

You'll never achieve greateness without a little RISC.

Re:Obligitory Hackers reference... (1)

Bluesman (104513) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110778)

RISC architecture is going to change everything.

Re:Obligitory Hackers reference... (1)

bhcompy (1877290) | more than 3 years ago | (#34112972)

Active matrix, man. A million psychedelic colors

Re:Obligitory Hackers reference... (1)

Misagon (1135) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110980)

Where I come from, any reference to the movie "Hackers" made without irony will yield you an immediate (and deserved) flogging.

Re:Obligitory Hackers reference... (1)

NoxNoctis (936876) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111210)

I'm coming up short on irony. Where do I submit for my flogging?

Re:Obligitory Hackers reference... (1)

rickb928 (945187) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111778)

You're just asking for it. Really.

And no, not Michigan. L.A.

Re:Obligitory Hackers reference... (1)

Hordeking (1237940) | more than 3 years ago | (#34113716)

Where do I submit for my flogging?

Into BDSM much? Slashdot BDSM is probably far more extreme than normal BDSM.

Re:Obligitory Hackers reference... (1)

Requiem18th (742389) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111678)

Michigan?

Old news. (5, Informative)

bchickens (255621) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110354)

I've used the JACK PCs before on a citrix environment (A couple years ago). Actually I installed and tested the system. Neat little things but hardley new news.

Re:Old news. (2, Interesting)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111038)

These are kind of cute but I have to wonder why? I mean why not a tiny box that could use POE or a wall wart? Maybe even build it into a keyboard?
They only benefit I see to having to bolt these into the wall is in a school or a public place where theft would be a concern.
Other than that it seems more pain then gain to me.

Re:Old news. (4, Insightful)

vlm (69642) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111354)

They only benefit I see to having to bolt these into the wall is in a school or a public place where theft would be a concern.

Bolt it into a wall behind the big screen. Instant super digital picture frame or announcement board, just add software.

The main threat is from the long cable industry, using a traditional cheap PC somewhere else with long cables. The other threat is no upgrade path, if you'll need to do the long cable thing on the next generation anyway, why not do it now.

Re:Old news. (4, Funny)

Defenestrar (1773808) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111862)

Or convention centers, church pulpits, wall mounted information displays, neo-classically designed retro-arcades, computer controlled entertainment centers, etc...

You're certainly right in calling this in-wall mount a "niche" market though ;)

Re:Old news. (2, Insightful)

mlts (1038732) | more than 3 years ago | (#34112430)

That is exactly where these things come in handy -- environments such as schools or places with computer labs that if a lab monitor turns around, equipment would be walking out the door.

I can see using these Jack PCs (secured in the wall with Bryce Key-Rex security screws or something of that nature) in an environment where you want as little equipment out in the open as possible, where if a crackhead goes werewolf and rips a monitor off a Kensington cable and dashes off with it, that isn't as big a loss as losing a computer. Plus, the crackhead isn't going to be looking at a plug in the wall for something to steal unless he is going to try to rip out the wiring to sell the copper.

Add Citrix or MS terminal server, and this is a decent solution for a number of applications.

Re:Old news. (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#34114234)

Add Citrix or MS terminal server, and this is a decent solution for a number of applications.

And you just drove the cost way up. For those sorts of places a simple PXE linux environment would be enough.

Slashvertisement (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34110358)

Slashvertisement! Also, FIRST POST!

Re:Slashvertisement (0, Redundant)

JavaBear (9872) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110542)

Not even close.

Jack PC? (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34110370)

Sounds like a computer that has the porn pre-downloaded.

A great time saving feature!

Welcome... (5, Insightful)

Cloud K (125581) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110380)

...to 2006 [slashdot.org] .

Am I missing a development (the 'news') bit or is this just a slashvertisement?

Re:Welcome... (5, Funny)

MillionthMonkey (240664) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110528)

I don't know what's more pathetic- that three of ten commenters immediately remembered some random Slashdot story from 2006, or that I did.

Re:Welcome... (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110624)

I didn't knew it was actually the same product, same concept though. So sign me up on those 3/10 to =P

Anyway, funny how the specs is the same now to, impressive, no development in four years :D
And totally comparable with a 1.2 GHz x86 chip even today, never mind any efficiency progress of x86 chips.
(As if it was even back then?)

P3? P4? Pentium-M? Core i7?

Re:Welcome... (2, Insightful)

poena.dare (306891) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111044)

Those who cannot remember posts of the past are condemned to re-read them. -- G-Dawg "Santa" Yanayana-bing-bang

Re:Welcome... (4, Funny)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110714)

Too bad they're not sold at the Wal mart in the mall. Then you could get a Wal Mart Mall Wall Wart.

Re:Welcome... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34113718)

Too bad they're not sold at the Wal mart in the mall. Then you could get a Wal Mart Mall Wall Wart.

I hate you so much. This same comment has been posted every time there's a wall wart story.

Re:Welcome... (1)

monktus (742861) | more than 3 years ago | (#34114264)

And if it fries your switch, or you slice your hand open installing it, you could get legal advice from Bob Loblaw's Law Blog.

Re:Welcome... (1)

noidentity (188756) | more than 3 years ago | (#34112322)

Slashvertisement? No way. I mean, it "runs on the RISC processor architecture". No way that could be marketing material. Nor this: "PC Technologies offers a neat and novel thin-client desktop computing solution". And what could be better than having the computer inside the wall? Imagine all the problems this crea..er, solves.

Just slightly old news/dupe (2, Informative)

spec8472 (241410) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110386)

From 2006: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/06/01/1255225

Yet another press release from cylonlover (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34110428)

Is it just me, or has the amount of slashvertising gone markedly up the last year?

It's not like this is breakthrough or anything -- these things have been around for many years, so why put this on the front page when all there is is yet another model?

Re:Yet another press release from cylonlover (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110694)

when all there is is yet another model?

Seemed like the same one to us.. :D

data center server (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34110454)

So the ethernet cable runs directly from the device to the "data center server?" Interesting.

Re:data center server (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110646)

And that one is also a jack pc running on ethernet power! Amazing!

Re:data center server (1)

Talderas (1212466) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110678)

It's powered over ethernet and supports wireless connectivity!

I can't be the only person that realized the pointlessness of the wireless connection.

Re:data center server (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111260)

I can't be the only person that realized the pointlessness of the wireless connection.

Two words: Access point.

Re:data center server (1)

NeverVotedBush (1041088) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110802)

Dude, doesn't your data center server have at least 256 Ethernet ports on it?

Any server worth its salt has them built in on the motherboard! All 256 of them... ;-)

The RISC processor architecture? (1)

CigarBuff (61105) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110466)

"runs on the RISC processor architecture – which gives the solution the equivalent of 1.2GHz of x86 processing power."

"comes with either a 333MHz (800MHz x86 equivalent) or a 500MHz (1.2GHz x86 equivalent) RMI Au processor."

I always enjoy when people write articles without actually understanding what they're saying.

Re:The RISC processor architecture? (1)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110648)

Maybe RISC architectures are like the Highlander, there can be only one. Watch out MIPS, they are after your head!

Re:The RISC processor architecture? (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110658)

I always enjoy when people write articles without actually understanding what they're saying.

Yeah, they should stay out of tech press and stay in politics!

Obligatory: Get of my lawn!

Re:The RISC processor architecture? (3, Funny)

a_nonamiss (743253) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110752)

No, clearly it is you that doesn't understand that making chips out of RISC makes them faster. That has always made me wonder, why don't they just make all chips out of RISC. I mean, it's clearly better than whatever other stuff they make the other chips out of. 2.4 times better in fact.

Re:The RISC processor architecture? (1, Redundant)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111402)

Ignore this if above poster was being sarcastic. I think he might be, but I'm not sure.

First off, we're disputing the use of a general type ("RISC architecture") instead of the actual architecture (ARM, MIPS, etc.). That's just bad tech reporting. I'd expect such sloppiness from Fox or MSN, not /.

Second, pretty much all processors now are RISC internally. Yes, i386 is a CISC instruction set, but processors translate those complex instructions into one or more RISC-type instructions, which are then run. That's arguably more efficient - instructions are stored on disk and in memory as complex instructions, for better code density, but they are processed as efficiently as RISC instructions. Only downside is more complex processors, and a bit more power draw from the translation unit.

Re:The RISC processor architecture? (1)

a_nonamiss (743253) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111464)

Definite sarcasm. I guess I should have made it sound even more ignorant. :)

Re:The RISC processor architecture? (1)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 3 years ago | (#34112010)

No problem. I'm just a bit cynical about things like that.

Re:The RISC processor architecture? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34111878)

You obviously do not understand the workings of the X86 processor. Today's X86 has a risc core but, the most common CISC instsructions never see it. They are hardware processed. Comparing RISC to CISC today is like comparing a VW bug to a MACK tractor.

wtf is a data center server? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34110550)

So this thing has a special cable that plugs into a "data center server?" I love bullshit marketing nonsense.

dual display over the network must needs lots of b (0)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110552)

dual display over the network must needs lots of bandwidth to be at a speed that does not fell like the old dial up days of slow loading pages.

Re:dual display over the network must needs lots o (1)

Bert64 (520050) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110574)

Over a 100mb lan it should be fine, even better over gigabit.

Re:dual display over the network must needs lots o (1)

a_nonamiss (743253) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110804)

It's just RDP or ICA. It would be just fine over 10mb, probably even coax, although I don't think you can do PoE over 10base2.

Re:dual display over the network must needs lots o (1)

Amouth (879122) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111496)

<quote>although I don't think you can do PoE over 10base2.</quote>

Not sure either -- but I've got a car battery and some cable - let see if it lights up any thing, quick be ready to catch the magic smoke.

Re:dual display over the network must needs lots o (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34113932)

Don't forget a bucket to catch the bits if the cable melts...

Re:dual display over the network must needs lots o (1)

kgkeys (239243) | more than 3 years ago | (#34112100)

A lot of ham radio accessories use power injectors at the transceiver to power remote antenna switches, tuners, etc. I think coax just fell out of use before PoE really came out in force.

but how many systems on the same switch or link (0)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110846)

but how many systems on the same switch or link back to the data center?

also how much more power does the data center need for dual display over 1 display per systems?

Re:but how many systems on the same switch or link (1)

jonbryce (703250) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111164)

Same as with any other Citrix setup. It is not that unusual, and obviously you aren't going to use this machine for video editing.

Re:but how many systems on the same switch or link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34111792)

Even for you, this is an impressively stupid question. I often wonder whether you're a very subtle troll, 12 years old, or retarded.

New Features of Wall Socket Engineering (1)

happy_place (632005) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110566)

The good thing about having a computer right in your wall is that when the thing overheats, your wall burns down... taking out your whole house.

Re:New Features of Wall Socket Engineering (1)

oddaddresstrap (702574) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110698)

Sort of gives a new meaning to the phrase "crash and burn".

Re:New Features of Wall Socket Engineering (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34110726)

When it overheats due to heavy portscanning, it will spontaneously create a firewall. Problem solved.

Re:New Features of Wall Socket Engineering (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34110882)

I don't believe 5W peak-power are enough to burn your wall down. Regular outlets can be more dangerous IMHO.

Re:New Features of Wall Socket Engineering (1)

StuartHankins (1020819) | more than 3 years ago | (#34112150)

I doubt that's an issue with this low-voltage, low-amp RISC device. Your cell phone charger probably pulls more amperage and creates more heat.

BFD. (2, Insightful)

AnonymousClown (1788472) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110580)

So they put the computer in the wall and run it off the power of the ethernet - it can't have much of a processor if that's the only power it needs.

If I want a less cluttered desktop I'll get one of those all-in-one machines from Lenovo, HP, or Apple.

Maybe someone should come up with an buried computer - dig a hole in the yard, put the computer in their, and run cables into the building and have it run off of its own heat pump!

Or the cat box computer! Put the computer in the cat box have it run on the heat of the turds and the energy of the cat burying its shit!

I mean. there are TONS of useless gimmicks to sell a commodity appliance like PCs - just see what the toaster manufactures are doing.

I'm just getting really cranky with sales and marketing bullshit that tries to sell mediocre products.

Re:BFD. (1)

Lennie (16154) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110640)

Most people call it a thinclient.

Re:BFD. (1)

lavacano201014 (999580) | more than 3 years ago | (#34112578)

I got my kerosene powered toaster running Arch once.

GPL viotation, (5, Informative)

Zappy (7013) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110588)

Uses modified Debian, source nowhere to be found.

Asking by e-mail several questions consistently ignored my request for the sourcecode until all other questions where resolved then I got completely ignored.

Re:GPL viotation, (2, Insightful)

Maavin (598439) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111204)

Then go with the WinCE version, no GPL problems there ;)

Re:GPL viotation, (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34112856)

Uses modified Debian, source nowhere to be found.

Asking by e-mail several questions consistently ignored my request for the sourcecode until all other questions where resolved then I got completely ignored.

Time to load Harald Welte (http://gpl-violations.org/ [gpl-violations.org] ) onto the trebuchet and open fire at them.

Re:GPL viotation, (1)

TheBrutalTruth (890948) | more than 3 years ago | (#34113544)

Eh? Ours had Windows CE on it...

Wireless wires? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34110608)

"Running on power provided by the ethernet cable that also connects it to the data center server, the computer-in-a-wall-socket supports wireless connectivity" ...

I know it's a fad right now to make everything wireless, but there are some applications where it's just not justified.

That's nothing! (1)

SIR_Taco (467460) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110614)

Pfffft.... that's nothing... they've had servers [slashdot.org] running in walls for years now :)

Re:That's nothing! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34110864)

That might be entertaining except for the fact that I get "This article has been moved/deleted from the system" when I click on the techweb link in the slashdot summary you've linked to.

Re:That's nothing! (1)

silverglade00 (1751552) | more than 3 years ago | (#34114132)

Nobody read that article anyway.

Cost? (2, Interesting)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110618)

the problem with most thin clients is that they cost more than a cheap PC, we just setup some clients at work, they are 1.6ghz dual core atoms with 2 gig of ram and a 160gig laptop drive at around 150$ each new (not counting software which is mint anyway) vs a $200+ thin client

you for got to add the backedcosts for thin pc t (0)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110954)

you forgot to add the backed costs for thin pc that cost alot more then just backed cost for full power pc.

Re:you for got to add the backedcosts for thin pc (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#34114300)

What backend cost?
Elec will be pretty low with atom, neither one will ever be fixed, just tossed and replaced.

Re:Cost? (1)

Maavin (598439) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111178)

but you can't integrate 10 of your cheap PCs into the desk construction of a small industrial control room, where heat and dust are very prevalent faktors...

Re:Cost? (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 3 years ago | (#34112158)

maybe, the ones we just used are fanless though

Upgrayedd (1)

plastick (1607981) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110634)

You may need to learn about drywall to upgrade your PC.

So, how do you turn Jack-Off? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34110682)

How do you jack it off?

Muhahahahahaah, mod me and dream of me to-nite!

In Soviet Russia (-1, Troll)

drumcat (1659893) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110794)

the wall is in computer.

WiFi? (1)

ArhcAngel (247594) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110916)

I saw "supports wireless connectivity" and wondered why a device that is POE would need WiFi. Need more caffeine.

Re:WiFi? (1)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111470)

I saw "supports wireless connectivity" and wondered why a device that is POE would need WiFi. Need more caffeine.

One, it can be used as a Wi-Fi hotspot. Second, it can also use a normal power adapter, for cases of unpowered Ethernet, or using Wi-Fi connection. There might be other uses as well, but those are the two main ones.

Re:WiFi? (1)

Amouth (879122) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111552)

same thing here..

then i realized hey just means it has blue tooth..

then i read the article/crap and realized it is via an optional USB adapter.

surprised they don't just start listing support for everything imaginable that can be connected via USB.

This is news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34110934)

Must be a slow day

What a stupid idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34110968)

So you put your PoE-powered thin client inside the wall, and that's somehow a good thing? If something on the device fails then you have to move a desk/cublice and pull out a wall plate to replace the unit. That sounds smart. And now you have cables for mouse/keyboard/audio/video that have to be long enough to run to the wall plate? And if you move your desk/cubicles around then you have to consider whether or not the new location is within USB/DVI/audio cable distance of a wall jack?

Here's a better idea: make a tiny thin client that uses PoE and put it in a 5"x5"x1" box that can live on your desk. Then you only have the single ethernet cable to run tot he wall plate. Or if you don't like desk clutter, make one that has screw holes to have it fit the VESA mount on the back of your LCD monitor.

Re:What a stupid idea (1)

cynyr (703126) | more than 3 years ago | (#34114010)

I was thinking if it could run boxee with netflix support it would be great for behind the tv that is already mounted to the wall with the vesa mount. Or in the kitchen to drive a touchscreen. Give me this with high bitrate VC1 and h264 and DTS decoding and I'd gladly shove one in the wall behind my TV. The way it is i already need a small switch in my living room... TV, PS3, HTPC, xbox360, If i had a separate bluray player, some receivers have Ethernet connections. very quickly i hit around 6 connections in my living room. being able to stick one of those behind a wall would be nice for the cords.

Also it looks like you could just cram it in a standard depth double gang outlet box here in the USA. A bit of plexi/polycarb and you have a vesa mounted system.

Crysis benchmarks? (-1, Troll)

ElephanTS (624421) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110970)

C'mon let me know. Did RTFA lol.

Title (1)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 3 years ago | (#34110984)

Jack PC [chippc.com] + OnLive [onlive.com] = Cheap gaming cafe?

But what's the application? (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111132)

I will agree that it's kina cool to have such a tiny server, but how many companies are so extremely short of space that they can't even find room for an ITX? This doesn't seem to be any more powerful or useful, and it's rare that an office wil be so small that there's no room for one of those.

Mechanical Horrors (5, Informative)

Maavin (598439) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111138)

I deployed about 200 of these things in an industrial environment (control rooms in a steel plant). They are small and perform rather good.
BUT
The electrical connection between the the JackPC and its shell is terrible! Some are so weak, that you only have to bump into the table and they lose connection.
It's so bad we considered soldering a short cat5 pigtail directly to the damn things and fix everything with hot glue...

moed down (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34111222)

Re:moed down (1)

lavacano201014 (999580) | more than 3 years ago | (#34112656)

Wild Goatse appears!

In Soviet Russia (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34111462)

PC jacks you!

Or you could get something useful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34111468)

Like a Lenovo Q150 net top that isn't that much bigger, has wifi, 2 GB of memory, 160 GB of hard drive space, can run Windows 7 decently, and comes with a mounting bracket where you can stick it on the back of a monitor or bolt it to a desk.

RISC is good! (1)

Chas (5144) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111490)

Oh for the love of Moore's saggy left...

The differentiation between RISC and CISC simply ceased to have any real meaning years ago, and people still drawing this pointless distinction would do well to stop living in the past.
Most of the chips some poor, benighted "RISC purist" would identify as CISC are, in fact, hybrid chips implementing technologies from both RISC and CISC architectures.

I love the "specs" (1)

rrossman2 (844318) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111586)

http://www.chippc.com/thin-clients/jack-pc/ [chippc.com]

2 of the 3 models they sell list this as a spec in the spec sheets

100% Virus / Trojan Immunity

On top of that, they run (unlike someone incorrectly said they run linux) Operating System Enhanced Windows CE-6.0 R2

Read the specs for each of the three models yourself lol

Re:I love the "specs" (1)

rrossman2 (844318) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111674)

Correction, ALL 3 models list that

Edgar Allen Poe's . . . (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 3 years ago | (#34111708)

"The Tell-Tail PC" and "The Cask of PC!" Does it make strange noises in the wall in the night, slowing driving the owner insane? Or does the owner go back fifty years later, and say, "May it rest in peace!" . . . ?

The Jack PC, BRILLIANT!!!! (1)

bigtone78 (943249) | more than 3 years ago | (#34112388)

Jack PC Sales Man: Hey potential customer this PC has no power cable!!! This is the next big thing.

Potential Customer: No power cable? Really? But it still uses electricity right?

Jack PC Sales Man: Of course, don't be silly.

Potential Customer: So where does the power come from?

Jack PC Sales Man: From the ethernet cable!!!

Potential Customer: So you're using the ethernet cable as a power cable? How is that not the same as having a power cable?

Jack PC Sales Man: ...um....ugh...It's an ethernet cable. You can now get rid of that unsightly power cable and get the power from this other cable that's not a power cable.

Potential Customer:....right.....(backs away slowly)

x86 equivalent (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34112546)

My eyes started glazing over when the press rel-- I mean the story -- explained the processor speeds in "MHz x86 equivalent." Is that a single-in-order-core Atom x86, or a multi-core OoO with lots of L3 cache i7, or a really-long-piped Pentium 4 or...? Seriously, this tells you nothing. It's totally ok to use "x86" as shorthand for certain qualities of a processor, but performance (especially in terms of clock speed) sure as hell isn't one of those infer-able qualities.

This car has a color, similar to a painted Ford.

Let's go even further (1)

giuseppemag (1100721) | more than 3 years ago | (#34112550)

Would be even cooler if we could have similar computer inside CELLPHONES!!! Oh, wait...

I have never bought anything... (3, Informative)

sootman (158191) | more than 3 years ago | (#34112784)

... from a company with a page like this. [chippc.com] If I can't buy easily, directly from your site, I'm not going to buy. FFS, do you want to sell things or not? If so then set up a damn store somewhere--Yahoo, eBay, etsy, I don't care. But don't tell me "Here's a bunch of links to the front page of some resellers, start searching." At the very least, post a "suggested price" so I know if it's even worth the effort to pursue.

Junk in the Wall (1)

TheBrutalTruth (890948) | more than 3 years ago | (#34113522)

We got one for testing a few weeks ago. Never got past a boot screen. Re-install OS per manufacturer resulted in a brick. Waiting for a week for support to respond.... (Disclosure: Other folks working with it. I have no exposure to it other than laughing at their increasing frustration / cussing). Now, this can happen with any product, so I'm not dead to it. But DOA unit on the 1st try certainly dampens perception.
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