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HP CEO Goes On the Lam As Oracle Hunts Him Down

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the it-only-gets-stranger dept.

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theodp writes "Oracle said HP has refused to accept a subpoena requiring new CEO Leo Apotheker to testify in a trial against his former employer SAP, which will determine how much SAP owes Oracle for copyright infringement by its discontinued TomorrowNow unit. 'Mr. Apotheker started work for HP on Monday, but it now appears that the HP board of directors has decided to keep him away from HP's headquarters and outside the court's jurisdiction,' an Oracle spokeswoman said. 'We will continue to try to serve him,' she added. An HP spokeswoman countered: 'Given Leo's limited knowledge of and role in the matter, Oracle's last-minute effort to require him to appear live at trial is no more than an effort to harass him and interfere with his duties and responsibilities as HP's CEO.' The spokeswoman declined to discuss the whereabouts of Mr. Apotheker, who was featured in a 2006 SAP/TomorrowNow press release attacking the 'uncertainty' of Oracle. Coincidentally, among the charges leveled at SAP/TomorrowNow was 'pretextual customer log-in,' an area in which HP has some subject matter expertise."

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CEO? Must be in Taihiti (3, Insightful)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124258)

Why would a CEO be at work? That is just a silly assumption.

Re:CEO? Must be in Taihiti (1)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124326)

Well it's the only place he can have his affair without his wife finding out.

Re:CEO? Must be in Taihiti (1)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124376)

You've clearly never been to a Clubhouse.

Every man can play his best, and away, at the 19th.

Re:CEO? Must be in Taihiti (4, Funny)

Stargoat (658863) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124422)

In 2010, a cracked CEO was sent to prison by a patent court for a crime he didn't commit. This man promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, he survives as a soldier of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find him, maybe you can hire... The HP-Team.

Re:CEO? Must be in Taihiti (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34124606)

Ta ta ra tam....

Re:CEO? Must be in Taihiti (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34124618)

In 2010, a cracked CEO was sent to prison by a patent court for a crime he didn't commit. This man promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, he survives as a soldier of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find him, maybe you can hire... The HP-Team.

Do not be fooled. He's actually a Hershey-bar big-lipped chocolate colored kneegrow sort of like Undercova Brotha. Spelled that way because something about the melanin-enhanced brain hates -er sounds and wants to replace them with -a sounds. In any case, anybody with a 'fro that big should tip you off.

Re:CEO? Must be in Taihiti (1)

poena.dare (306891) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124752)

Cue obligatory 5 minute montage of the HP-Team coding solutions out of discarded corporate IP. Followed by a dramatic showdown with flashy error messages which throw the enemies in the air but somehow, magically, never kills them.

but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34125232)

where's my 42 million dollar bonus?!!!
Do you know how many staplers I have to steal to make that kind of dosh?!!!

ooops, that was CEO n-1, nevermind...

Don't mess with Larry (3, Funny)

wandazulu (265281) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124264)

He's a ninja.

Or, at least, he can afford to hire a bunch of them.

Re:Don't mess with Larry (2, Insightful)

aliquis (678370) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124448)

But pirates > ninjas.

Re:Don't mess with Larry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34125228)

While butt pirates ninjas

Re:Don't mess with Larry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34125394)

That means the people who try to serve him are NOT pirates.

Re:Don't mess with Larry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34126138)

I think you meant:

Butt Pirates > Ninjas (?)

Re:Don't mess with Larry (1)

Bigjeff5 (1143585) | more than 3 years ago | (#34126462)

Only on the high seas, and possibly while delivering pizza.

Re:Don't mess with Larry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34126498)

What do butt pirates have to do with it?

Re:Don't mess with Larry (1)

Vectormatic (1759674) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124484)

Larrys kind of crazy and ruthless behaviour is more befitting of a pirate i think..

So don't worry about ninjas clad in oracle red, three-mast 40-gun sailing ships however..

Re:Don't mess with Larry (1)

Miseph (979059) | more than 3 years ago | (#34125700)

Hardly any pirates ever commanded a ship that big or well-armed... excepting outliers like Morgan, Drake or Teach (and, frankly, they mostly fit the bill as well) virtually all of them were low-rent criminals and thugs going after small un-armed merchant craft just to keep the crew from starvation. Few of them were particularly competent fighters or sailors, and the majority died swift, painful deaths after a very brief career.

Of course, it makes for a much less compelling movie if you've only got 5-10 half-starved men on a small boat carrying 2 guns and only enough powder and shot for one and a half volleys, running away from anything that has an actual soldier aboard and mostly plundering ships that immediately surrender because they are simply too small to fight and fail to run away. The reality isn't even approximate to the fantasy.

Re:Don't mess with Larry (2, Insightful)

SydShamino (547793) | more than 3 years ago | (#34126732)

You're not thinking modern times. Corporations pull in billions from their customers and lucrative government contracts. Then, when the armada closes in, the CEO strands their crew on a desert island and make their escape via golden parachute.

Re:Don't mess with Larry (1)

ArhcAngel (247594) | more than 3 years ago | (#34126746)

You go around telling children there is no Santa Clause or Easter Bunny or Tooth Fairy don't you?

Re:Don't mess with Larry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34127040)

Right, but Larry has lots of big boats, including that 90 ft tri he sailed in the Americas Cup.

Re:Don't mess with Larry (1)

MikeDaSpike (1196169) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124674)

If anything he''s a ninja. If Hollywood movies and weekend morning cartoons have taught us anything, it's that a trained ninja's ability is inversely proportional to the amount of the adversaries he is facing. Don't believe me? When a ninja is facing a thousand samurai, a single punch can thrust them meters away, and he will defeat them swiftly and without fail. When a ninja is facing a single samurai, it will be a duel that will be sung for centuries and. So if he hired a army of ninjas, all that Oracle would need to do is hire a single one to counter them.

Re:Don't mess with Larry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34125018)

That would be directly proportional.

Re:Don't mess with Larry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34125162)

That was a big fail on my part :X
I even thought about it when I wrote that part...

Re:Don't mess with Larry (1)

JxcelDolghmQ (1827432) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124696)

You misspelled "cocksucker."

Re:Don't mess with Larry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34125292)

Which is his mistake for not following the inverse ninja law. He should know to hire just 1.

Lesson is... (0, Flamebait)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124316)

...change your passwords often and restrict access?

Re:Lesson is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34124524)

From the bloomberg article [bloomberg.com] :

SAP said TomorrowNow, which provides software support to clients, was authorized to download materials from Oracle's Web site on behalf of TomorrowNow customers. The unit made ``some inappropriate'' downloads of fixes and support documents, SAP said.

In its lawsuit, Oracle said TomorrowNow used identities of Oracle customers and phony users to gain access to its systems. Customers for whom SAP allegedly conducted illegal downloads included Merck & Co. and Bear Stearns & Co., according to the March 22 lawsuit. Oracle didn't say how much the damage cost the company.

I admit I'm just guessing here, but it appears they used "Platinum" style support contracts to download some fixes to which regular joe-blow customers weren't entitled (like Microsoft has fixes for certain support contract customers) for their own use instead of their clients'.

Re:Lesson is... (1)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 3 years ago | (#34127450)

it appears they used "Platinum" style support contracts to download some fixes to which regular joe-blow customers weren't entitled (like Microsoft has fixes for certain support contract customers) for their own use instead of their clients'.

The big issue is that it wasn't for their own use -- they were using that material to support their other clients, who had not paid Oracle for that level support -- SAP was able to undercut Oracle support contracts, and they used stolen Oracle support materials to do so.

Black girls (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34124320)

I screwed a black girl, and even though i'm average size, it was just lost in there, I mean rattling around.
This was a gaping vag the size of a hallway.
I probably won't ever do that again, since black girls are too much man for me anyway.

hmm (2, Interesting)

nomadic (141991) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124334)

Seems a little silly, the proper approach is to file a motion to quash the trial subpoena. It's a pretty simple motion and would be a lot easier than hiding your CEO.

Re:hmm (1)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124416)

Actually Leo Apotheker is one of those unique individuals who can fit inside a regular computer box without any issues. He hid inside one of the HP boxes when he got the letter, knowing that this would be the one opportunity his rare skill might become handy.

Warning to HP Customers - if your new HP computer looks suspiciously like a human being, do NOT attempt to plug it in - that is not a power adapter.

Re:hmm (1)

sakdoctor (1087155) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124520)

I just calculated my height in rack untits, just in case I need to hide in the server room one day.
I would need around 40U to stand "comfortably".

Re:hmm (2, Funny)

NatasRevol (731260) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124734)

It's not the height, it's the width requirements that would kill most nerds...

Rack width requirements (1)

becker (190314) | more than 3 years ago | (#34125192)

That's why 24" racks (instead of the 19" standard "relay" rack) are becoming much more common.

Re:Rack width requirements (1)

NatasRevol (731260) | more than 3 years ago | (#34126130)

Do they have double-width racks?

Re:Rack width requirements (1)

NevarMore (248971) | more than 3 years ago | (#34126838)

Yea but you gotta nail 'em together in the middle to keep the raccoons out.

Re:hmm (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 3 years ago | (#34127462)

It's been my observation that few of us are normal sized, but half are overweight and half are underweight.

Re:hmm (1)

bughunter (10093) | more than 3 years ago | (#34125500)

my height in rack untits

Associative Freudian slip, or veiled mammary reference?

Re:hmm (1)

sakdoctor (1087155) | more than 3 years ago | (#34125656)

Well spotited

Re:hmm (1)

NevarMore (248971) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124570)

Warning to HP Customers - if your new HP computer looks suspiciously like a human being, do NOT attempt to plug it in - that is not a power adapter.

Ooooh. So HP isn't selling a sex box yet?

Re:hmm (1)

Miseph (979059) | more than 3 years ago | (#34125746)

It's my turn with the sex box... and her name is Sony!

Re:hmm (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124526)

It's a pretty simple motion and would be a lot easier than hiding your CEO.

Wow! Hide & Seek, Corporate Edition!

Maybe we could settle corporate lawsuits with Hide & Seek contests, instead of trials? Up next, Nokia vs. Apple. Apple gets to hide first . . .

Nokia: "One, two, three, four . . . "

Re:hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34124708)

Something like that would have to be on a world wide scale [youtube.com]

Re:hmm (1)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124766)

I'm thinking we dress him up in a red-and-white striped shirt and put him in a few populated areas. "Where's Leo"?

Re:hmm (1)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 3 years ago | (#34125262)

How about we turn it into a game show like Where in the World is Leo Apotheker?

Re:hmm (1)

Miseph (979059) | more than 3 years ago | (#34125794)

Holy fuck, his name scans into the theme song well enough to work... it's not as catchy by a mile, but what can you do?

Anyway, where's an all-male a capella group when you really need it?

Re:hmm (1)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124568)

And spoil the chance to play cloak and dagger for a while? Now he gets to be all dramatic and pretend he's a secret agent or something. Maybe he'll even trick out his car with missiles and oil slicks. Of course his name sounds more like a Bond villain than a 'good guy', so maybe he'll build himself a secret island fortress and transfer a bunch of HP underlings out there to be his evil henchmen. Once they finish building the doomsday satellite he'll be able to use his massive orbital weapons platform to destroy Oracle once and for all! Bwah hahahahaha!

Re:hmm (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 3 years ago | (#34125012)

Seems a little silly, the proper approach is to file a motion to quash the trial subpoena. It's a pretty simple motion and would be a lot easier than hiding your CEO.

Not if, despite your PR, there was no valid reason to quash to subpoena. So, one must conclude that either HP is acting irrationally, or...

Re:hmm (1)

ModernGeek (601932) | more than 3 years ago | (#34127082)

You know it's a good time to start looking for a new job when your employer starts hiding the CEO from the authorities.

Search Everywhere (1, Funny)

rakuen (1230808) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124356)

Did anyone check the dumpster out back? That's where I'd hide the body, I mean, hide a CEO from the law.

Re:Search Everywhere (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34124650)

This is an honest question. What is the bleedin' deal with marking obvious jokes as Troll? I'm not trying to provoke anyone with this remark. I mean, WHO would I provoke? The CEO who can't even look at this because then he would be on the map and able to be subpoenaed? Neither is it very offtopic, as the post is relevant to the conversation. Maybe they ARE hiding the CEO in a dumpster. You're not them, you don't know. Really, I see a far better use for mod points being downrating actual flaming and ignorance of the subject at hand, rather than harmless jesting.

Or maybe I should simply be honored someone saw fit to bother spending a mod point on me to begin with. What do I know?

Re:Search Everywhere (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34125050)

This is an honest question. What is the bleedin' deal with marking obvious jokes as Troll?

You are so right. For obvious jokes, marking them Redundant makes a lot more sense. Someone should get to work on that immediately.

Re:Search Everywhere (2, Funny)

corbettw (214229) | more than 3 years ago | (#34125288)

Note to self: avoid rakuen's dumpster, especially shortly after eating.

Don't worry... (3, Funny)

DWMorse (1816016) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124360)

Don't worry, they'll find him when he checks his Facebook page!

Re:Don't worry... (2, Funny)

Vectormatic (1759674) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124730)

Leo Apotheker, status: What's up doc.. eh Larry?

Larry Ellison, status: SSSHH i'm hunting Wabb.. eh.. CEOs

Re:Don't worry... (1)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 3 years ago | (#34127516)

Larry Ellison, status: SSSHH i'm hunting Wabb.. eh.. CEOsWhat is that, some kind of double-encrypted super secret transmission protocol? Do you have the specs for it? Is it up for approval as a standard?

I guess regular old SSH isn't cutting it anymore.

Quash (1)

Benosaurus (1100067) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124424)

Why not just file a motion to quash? Interesting.

Is it me or (3, Interesting)

Anon-Admin (443764) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124454)

has HP become less than reputable, Sun's continued existence become questionable, Oracle's motives become dubious, all while Linux continues to gain market share.

Ok, the Linux bit was just for fun, but really what in the heck is the Tech world smoking. It is getting strange!

Re:Is it me or (4, Insightful)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124578)

...has HP become less than reputable

Eventually, your reputation reflects your actions. I think HP has thoroughly buried its previous reputation as an innovator and great place to work.

Re:Is it me or (1)

Machtyn (759119) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124700)

When did you come to that reality? I got to that point at around the late 1990's. Their HP-48GX calculators were great, though (released late 80's - early '90's).

Re:Is it me or (1)

UncleTogie (1004853) | more than 3 years ago | (#34126206)

When did you come to that reality? I got to that point at around the late 1990's. Their HP-48GX calculators were great, though (released late 80's - early '90's).

I call them the "Fiorina Days", and still gripe about it.

Re:Is it me or (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34124732)

Software is treated like a commodity and now so are the people. In a war of Oracle vs. SAP vs. HP the only good outcome is that the management of all the companies gets drug through the mud and sent packing with their golden parachutes tucked into their cash stuffed brief cases. The nerds no longer rule the roost but the lawyers and business hacks are at the helm.

Re:Is it me or (-1, Troll)

haruchai (17472) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124586)

It's all a secret strategy by the SCO_M$ (pronounced "scums") Axis to make themselves look more respectable as they plot and plan
their global takeover. To keep a low profile, the SCO_M$ are avoiding the usual high-profile venues, preferring to meet at informal, purportedly impromptu, gatherings, or "tea parties".

Re:Is it me or (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34124592)

No it's not you. I find HP's executive board's decision to make Leo CEO unstable to HP's brand. I know HP and Oracle like to work together on large deals too, so it makes for strange bedfellows. The reality is HP has some real talent in their ranks at the executive level that could have easily taken the reigns. I think there would have been more pride for the HP employees to see someone from inside their ranks get the title of CEO. But now it looks like some tech giant CEO shuffle as CEOs play pass the title from one failure or embarrassment to another. The only up side is maybe this is a bit like the days where kingdoms forced marriages between royalty to stave off conflicts. Except HP and SAP to release a press release in the next few quarters on "working together."

Strange times (1)

wandazulu (265281) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124620)

I think you're right; the tech world is full of weirdness right now. Everyone was familiar with the whole "windows on the desktop, unix on server, mac for graphics" paradigms, but with the rise of the smart phones, cloud, social-media-everything, it really is a new world, but not new enough that you can't read the billboards.

Awesome times if you embrace the weirdness; people who hold fast to the way it used to be will ....HEY GET OFF MY LAWN!

Re:Is it me or (1)

drerwk (695572) | more than 3 years ago | (#34126188)

They died when they spun off Agilent. I liked their test equipment, and possibly their early ink jet printers.

How about... (5, Interesting)

blisteringsilence (1290138) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124538)

He's traveling right now. I saw him in Plano last week, and he's been to many HP sites worldwide in the last 3 weeks, in a bid to calm employees and reassure HP's biggest customers. I don't know what this BS is about the board keeping him away. He's doing his job, meeting people and reaching out.

And after hearing him speak and meeting with him last week, I have to say I'm impressed. He's not the used car salesman that Mark was, nor the fiery bitch that Carli was. He's kind of a geek, and a definite software nerd. Not only that, he genuinely impressed me. He's sharp and capable without being slimy. And unlike most Germans, he appears to have had his sense of humor reinstalled.

Moreover, he's SMART about the tech HP sells, and why people buy it in a way that Mark never was.

And I'll take that.

Re:How about... (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34124626)

Glad you like him. We had him for too short a time I think. I totally agree with your assessment of him as a person. The only downside that I remember is that he has a small case of foot-in-mouth disease. About 1 in every 4 meetings he would say something that I'm sure made the PR people cringe. On the up side, it makes listening to his keynotes and Q&A more interesting.

Re:How about.../PR People (1)

uzd4ce (1916592) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124928)

and I think that making PR people cringe is a good thing... Wow, he is human after all. It's nice to have someone who's down to earth and has a real sense of humor leading for once. Now just to see if it trickles down through the many layers of management....

Re:How about... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34124712)

This is payback for all the Sun attacks prior to acquisition >:)

Re:How about... (1)

Nevo (690791) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124750)

Still, the company could accept the subpoena on his behalf. Not doing so is just going to piss off the court.

Re:How about... (1)

ceejayoz (567949) | more than 3 years ago | (#34125416)

I'm pretty sure you have to be served a subpoena directly.

Re:How about... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34126060)

Actually it depends upon the judge. It's definitely happened where a judge accepted a subpoena as delivered that was merely left on the individual's doorstep.

Re:How about... (1)

Comatose51 (687974) | more than 3 years ago | (#34125154)

Good to hear that. There is a lot of love and respect for HP among nerds. They do great work and have excellent engineers. If only they found the management and board to match the quality of their engineers, HP will be great.

Re:How about... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34125846)

to bad they have had a lot of stumbles lately and the perception is their stuff is not only lagging in terms of bang-for-buck but now getting more bug ridden.

I cite their most recent firmware update that might fix a data loss issue for common raid levels and "large slow downs" with "high load" issue with all their p-series raid cards. this bug had been reported to them a long time and reject by them repeatedly as not possible. then they quietly fix it 1.5 years later.

seriously HP is lagging, I can't wait till my company pull our heads out and dump the 1,000+ hp servers we have for something that isn't a bug riddled slow I/O POS.

hpacucli has so very many bugs that a first year C programmer in college could fix. that HP continues to not address these issues is shameful.

if anyone at HP is reading this, fix your direction, get back to making decent product. That acutally looks like it had some QA testing done on it. Get back to the performance leader board. OR don't and see how long people keep swallowing the junk you have been putting out for the last few years.

Re:How about... (2, Informative)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 3 years ago | (#34126778)

There is a lot of love and respect for HP among nerds.

There was at one time, before Carly and Hurd, and while the illustrious founders were still alive. Speaking as a nerd.

Re:How about... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34125644)

Under Leo's leadership, SAP fell of the employee satisfaction charts. We hemorrhaged top talent and lost credibility with our customers. Major changes to the way we operate, implemented after Leo's forced departure are finally starting to right the ship... so, yeah, good luck with Leo. You're welcome to him.

Re:How about... (1)

yuhong (1378501) | more than 3 years ago | (#34126270)

I know, but I think Mark Hurd was worse. For example, he cut salaries, while Leo didn't from what I read.

Re:How about... (1)

yuhong (1378501) | more than 3 years ago | (#34126242)

Which begs the big question: Will things improve for HP employees?

Re:How about... (1)

Bigjeff5 (1143585) | more than 3 years ago | (#34126512)

Figures HP would get someone good after I leave.

Lets see how this goes... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34124598)

Lets see how this goes.

Before when a small UK company didn't turn up to court, they were ruled against by default, under the assumption that whatever the prosecution said about them was uncontested.

Here will the CEO of a big company be likewise assumed guilty?

Re:Lets see how this goes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34124878)

Since he's not on trial here, it's kinda different.

Re:Lets see how this goes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34125784)

IANAL -- either here or in the US

would he not be exposed to the risk of a "contempt of court" charge (or whatever local equivalent is in place)?

Re:Lets see how this goes... (1)

gknoy (899301) | more than 3 years ago | (#34126930)

If a subpoena isn't actually served to him, what would he be in contempt of? "Your honor, we're pretty sure that he knew we wanted to serve him, but can't prove it, and never managed to serve him his subpoena..."
I doubt that would fly far.

I'm confused (3, Interesting)

somaTh (1154199) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124604)

How is HP not guilty of obstruction of justice?

Like I really need to say it, but here it is anyway: IANAL.

Re:I'm confused (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34125314)

You're also not a skeptic. Taking what Oracle says at face value is pretty naive. If you're that way in general, please remember to ask any of your sexual assaulters to wear a condom (assuming they leave you conscious).

Re:I'm confused (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34125678)

He is the CEO of an american multinational, he has spent most of his life in Belgium and Germany. I would imagine his only reasons to set foot on US soil are business meetings and site visits. Considering the extent of HPs international holdings and operations, he need never visit the nation during his tenure as chief executive. Unless you fancy trying to extradite a witness, it's probably better for Oracle just to "let it go". ... background: I worked for a US multinational corp for a decade and avoided having to submit to the indignity of US border controls.

Re:I'm confused (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34125816)

Thanks! I wish I had mod points for the information.

Re:I'm confused (2, Informative)

Bigjeff5 (1143585) | more than 3 years ago | (#34126716)

It's not a matter of extraditing him. He's in the US, and he will be working in the US. He is currently visiting all the HP hubs around the country/world - it's completely legitimate business, especially for a new CEO.

They have to serve you in person. They also cannot serve you with a subpoena outside the court's jurisdiction, so until he returns to HP headquarters they are shit out of luck.

They can't serve it to HP because HP is not a person, and is not the person the subpoena is for. So they are stuck until they find him in person and can serve him.

Re:I'm confused (1)

Bigjeff5 (1143585) | more than 3 years ago | (#34126564)

Because the guy is actually working (he's a new CEO, he's going to HP's hubs around the world for what boils down to a meet and greet), and you don't have to accept a subpoena.

However if you accept it (whether you know what it is when you accept it or not), you've got to show up.

Basically, Leo hasn't been served the subpoena yet, and until he is served he is not required to show up in court. HP is not accepting the subpoena for him (since it's not HP that the subpoena is for), so until they manage to track him down and serve him they are stuck. The fact that he knows about the subpoena now makes it very difficult to serve him if he doesn't want to do it.

Wow. (2, Funny)

RiotNrrd (35077) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124622)

As someone who is a customer of both of these companies, I kinda wish they'd spend less time throwing lawsuits at each other and more time providing value to their customers. I'm just sayin'...

Re:Wow. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34124724)

Quiet, pleb. They're trying to make money here. This has nothing to do with your petty concerns as a customer. Now go buy more ink cartridges and laptops like a good lower-class-than-they-are money conduit.

Oh come on now really (0, Troll)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124640)

'Given Leo's limited knowledge of and role in the matter, Oracle's last-minute effort to require him to appear live at trial is no more than an effort to harass him and interfere with his duties and responsibilities as HP's CEO.'

And staying away from the office, hiding somewhere out of jurisdiction isn't interfering with his duties and responsibilities? Just fucking show up, testify, and be done with it. What's that going to take, a day, a week tops?

Actually... (3, Insightful)

uzd4ce (1916592) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124678)

He's been travelling to HP sites across the globe to get face to face employee input and hopefully boost morale. I'd much rather he do that and get a handle on the company than submit to Oracle's harassment in a suit where he's already given sworn, taped testimony. The last thing HP needs is another lame-ass distraction for the CEO.

Hmmm..... (4, Informative)

mseeger (40923) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124694)

Honestly: if Oracle is after him, the guy must be inocent.

All I can say is "Bwwwwaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha (1)

fkx (453233) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124798)

The corporate asshole clown circus must be in town.

I could find him in a few days (1, Funny)

Wireless Joe (604314) | more than 3 years ago | (#34124832)

All I'd have to do is stake out the next pro-am golf tourney, the most expensive ski resort, the biggest VIP box at his favorite sports team's next game, the most expensive rental in Martha's Vineyard, or the biggest sloop at the next luxury yacht regatta. Looking for a CEO at work is just stupid.

"Oracle" is Greek for "Shylock bastards" (1)

swschrad (312009) | more than 3 years ago | (#34125322)

and Ellison really needs to get back on his meds.

HP's position seems strong here (2, Interesting)

Comrade Ogilvy (1719488) | more than 3 years ago | (#34126012)

From TFA:

"Oracle had ample opportunity to question Leo during his sworn deposition in October 2008 and chose not to include him as a live trial witness until he was named CEO of HP," an HP spokesperson said in a statement. "Given Leo's limited knowledge of and role in the matter, Oracle's last-minute effort to require him to appear live at trial is no more than an effort to harass him and interfere with his duties and responsibilities as HP's CEO."

Of course, HP may be pulling the wool over our eyes. But if it was not obvious in 2008 and 2009 that live testimony would be likely necessary, then it is difficult to believe that he is so important to the suit here in late 2010.

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