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Long-Delayed L.A. Noire Gets Trailer, Spring 2011 Release

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the dark-and-stormy-night dept.

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It's been years since the announcement of L.A. Noire, an expansive murder mystery game set in 1940s Los Angeles. After several lengthy delays, Rockstar Games has now posted a trailer and confirmed that the game will release in Spring of 2011. One of the game's major undertakings is to step up the realism of the voice acting and the way characters' faces and bodies are animated, "allowing players to analyze every subtle nuance of an actor's performance in order to get to the truth." The trailer shows in-game footage (though not actual gameplay), and while it's always a good idea to take such displays with a grain of salt, the facial expressions do look pretty realistic.

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I think this about sums it up (4, Insightful)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 3 years ago | (#34204942)

Re:I think this about sums it up (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34205190)

If you ignore the fact that it features a huge sandbox world many times the size of all combined doom levels, and isn't even an FPS, then your point stands! A++ would read again!

Re:I think this about sums it up (1)

imakemusic (1164993) | more than 3 years ago | (#34207178)

I hope you're right. However, "huge sandbox world" could just mean a big world that you have to drive through to get between the rigidly defined points of action.

Re:I think this about sums it up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34205600)

I assume the point that you're trying to sum up is that you're fucking retarded? LA Noire is a 3rd person, open world game. If it follows Rockstars past efforts, it will have a map larger than all the levels in the first 3 Doom games combined.

Re:I think this about sums it up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34209718)

raped

Re:I think this about sums it up (1, Troll)

ildon (413912) | more than 3 years ago | (#34207678)

RTFA. This game isn't an FPS it's a sandbox game like GTA3. Everyone who modded this insightful instead of off topic is an idiot and should go back to reddit.

DOOM E1M6 (1)

antdude (79039) | more than 3 years ago | (#34208018)

As a former DOOMaholic, I remember that old school map from DOOM [idsoftware.com] 's Episode 1 Map 6 (E1M6) [Central Processing] [wikia.com] . :D

Re:DOOM E1M6 (1)

cjb110 (200521) | more than 3 years ago | (#34214764)

Thanks for that! I knew I recognized it as soon as I saw that 'squiggly' (well squiggly for doom) tunnel.

But fuck knows why my brain decides that remembering map layouts of game I last played 16 odd years ago is a good idea! Maybe it's because your using most of your senses and non-repetitive muscle movements??

Re:DOOM E1M6 (1)

antdude (79039) | more than 3 years ago | (#34216702)

Is it because you played too much DOOM like me? I was a DOOMaholic. I made mods, maps [zimage.com] , visited ftp.cdrom.com/pub/idsoftware/doom.../ daily to download stuff, played a lot, etc. Here's even sadder. I still have DOOM 1 and 2 installed, but with Doomdays Engine [dengine.net] stuff. I haven't touched it for ages though.

Re:DOOM E1M6 (1)

cjb110 (200521) | more than 3 years ago | (#34217222)

well no, that's the thing...yes I played it quite a bit, but not *that* much! didn't play

Same as Wolfenstien I know all the secrets on the first few levels, but again not played that in years.

But it gets released on a phone or latest console and I know exactly where to go:)

Uncanny Valley here we come! (3, Interesting)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 3 years ago | (#34204954)

The faces do look real, but I am going to have to agree with the uncanny valley crowd here and say that they look creepy.....maybe it looks better on an hd tv than it does in the trailer, but damn those things were creepy.

Re:Uncanny Valley here we come! (2, Insightful)

caius112 (1385067) | more than 3 years ago | (#34204984)

The faces do look real, but I am going to have to agree with the uncanny valley crowd here and say that they look creepy.....maybe it looks better on an hd tv than it does in the trailer, but damn those things were creepy.

It's chiefly because of the terrible (or rather, nonexistent) lighting. Seriously, it looks like global lighting from a 2002 game. I hope it's because it's only an alpha.

Re:Uncanny Valley here we come! (1)

naz404 (1282810) | more than 3 years ago | (#34205264)

Also, they have absolutely horrendous eye-capture technology.

Except for some cultures like the Japanese where they talk without making a lot of eye contact, a large part of facial expressions & mannerism is with the the eyes.

Valve's Half-Life 2 was amazing because of this (well, they did bag the guy who worked on Gollum's animations...)

That being said, Noire looks like it's full of creepy animated corpses because the eyes aren't alive. They keep staring in the distance instead of properly focusing at proper objects/people and flicking around like normal human beings.

Also, Rockstar needs to learn proper editing and pacing of cutscenes. They all kept dragging on painfully in GTA IV/Expansions, making them really irritating to watch and yet unskippable if you wanted to find out more about the story.

Re:Uncanny Valley here we come! (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 3 years ago | (#34205576)

Also, Rockstar needs to learn proper editing and pacing of cutscenes. They all kept dragging on painfully in GTA IV/Expansions, making them really irritating to watch and yet unskippable if you wanted to find out more about the story.

Ugh, no lie. GTA IV was easily the worst game I've ever played for this. After GTA:SA it was like pushing hot knitting needles into my eyes. Played it anyway though.

Re:Uncanny Valley here we come! (1)

Loosifur (954968) | more than 3 years ago | (#34205736)

Yeah, it's impressive in comparison to previous Rockstar games, maybe the best facial animation I've ever seen in a retail game. Still, there's something wrong with the eyes, and I can't quite put my finger on it. It's almost as if they're not connected to the rest of the expression, if that makes sense.

Also, the animation of the body as a whole is still too stilted to look real. To be fair, I've never seen any game get that right. People are constantly in motion, making tons of small movements such as blinks, twitches, shifting their weight from foot to foot, breathing, etc. No one isolates movement to the "relevant" parts without fairly intense training and concentration. This game gets pretty close, but not quite. Also, the edges of the characters are too crisp. Everyone looks like very detailed paper cut-outs on top of a realish-looking background.

Of course, none of this matters to me since it's only being released on console, apparently. I guess that's fine; I already know the Irish captain is in on it, and when you go to his house to tell him about the case he's gonna plug you in the kitchen.

Re:Uncanny Valley here we come! (1)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 3 years ago | (#34206848)

I didn't find them particularily creepy but one thing I noticed the trailer didn't show is a CHANGE in anyone's facial expression. No one went from calm to angry - which always seems to be where graphics have lacked. I've never not been able to tell when a character was mad, or sad, or whatever, in Half Life 2, or Doom 3, or whatever other FPS out there lets you see the face. The problem is that characters rarely seem to change their mood and their expressions to go with it. And if they do, it never seems to happen in the players view.

Why the 404? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34204988)

The http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/11/12/037241/Firefox-4-Regains-Speed-Mojo-With-No-2-Placing can not be found, though a few people seem to find it judging the the already posted comments, what is going on?

Re:Why the 404? (1)

Anne Honime (828246) | more than 3 years ago | (#34205022)

noticed this too.

Re:Why the 404? (2, Interesting)

naz404 (1282810) | more than 3 years ago | (#34205118)

Offtopic, but yeah :-/ Can't access the page too. I guess this is as good as anywhere to comment on it right now.

Re:Why the 404? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34205110)

anything on news.slashdot.org is broken.
my guess is broken mod_rewrite

i cant tell if real people are lying (2, Insightful)

aplusjimages (939458) | more than 3 years ago | (#34205010)

So how am I supposed to know if a game character is lying? I have to agree that the lighting is oddly non dramatic on the characters.

Re:i cant tell if real people are lying (1)

Takichi (1053302) | more than 3 years ago | (#34205350)

Maybe this can actually be used as a training tool for people that aren't able to interact with others because of their inability to recognise common social cues. (Not accusing you of anything, just saying)

I wonder if they'll be any multiplayer (1)

irockash (1265506) | more than 3 years ago | (#34205132)

Seems like it would be tough, but I would love to have some sort of online detective story... Maybe where some players commit the crimes, while the others find them.

Could go 2 ways (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34205150)

This could either be really brilliant or pretty bad.

What would have been pretty impressive is if there was a multiplayer mode. And YOU actually have to control those little expressions using the entire controller.
So, D-pad controlled left side of face, Action buttons right side, shoulder buttons arms and legs. Buttons appear in center of the group of buttons, even several at once, you mess it up, you let out a twitch, a lop-sided expression, a dodgy blink, whatever.
God that would be such a fantastic mode to play.

These are the kind of things that could be made in to a series as well.
DLC, episode could be released for DLC, bunch of them over time, then on disc for those who lack connection.
And before the anti-DLC people come flying in, go fly up your own ass instead. This is the right way to do DLC.
Those who do have internet get the advantage of being able to play the episodes before those who don't, those who do are being rewarded for making them spend less money in distribution. (for the initial release)

Of course, this all depends on whether or not it succeeds.

Re:Could go 2 ways (2, Insightful)

Jesus_666 (702802) | more than 3 years ago | (#34205250)

If you want to see how this would work in practice I recommend that you do an image search for "garry's mod".

Re:Could go 2 ways (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#34206948)

Do you know of a good source of how to's for Garry's mod?my young son is getting into it, but most the information we can find either makes a great assumption on what the person knows, or is wrong.

My gut is that there is something fundamental we aren't getting. Like we are missing some basic software pack. It' works, but when ever we try to add models to it, specifically the tools need to create trains and rails, it never laods them.

Re:Could go 2 ways (1)

Jesus_666 (702802) | more than 3 years ago | (#34209582)

Unfortunately I never got around to actually getting Garry's Mod. I hope someone else can help you.

Re:Could go 2 ways (2, Informative)

Kenoli (934612) | more than 3 years ago | (#34213512)

My gut is that there is something fundamental we aren't getting. Like we are missing some basic software pack. It' works, but when ever we try to add models to it, specifically the tools need to create trains and rails, it never loads them.

A lot of stuff that people use to build things in garry's mod doesn't come with the game.
There are some addons that are so widely used that they're practically required. At a minimum I would recommend "PHX Model Pack 3" and "Wire Mod".

They can be downloaded and updated via SVN:
https://phoenix-storms.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/phoenix-storms [sourceforge.net]
https://wiremod.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/wiremod/trunk/wire/ [sourceforge.net]

Adding a folder in gmod's "addons" folder and putting the files in it is sufficient for installing an addon.

Additionally, content from other source games such as Half-Life 2, TF2, and Counterstrike is also widely used. Installing those may help with missing models/textures.

Why don't the hats cast shadows on faces? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34205384)

Took me a minute to twig what didn't quite look right about these - it's the hats, they don't cast shadows onto the faces. Considering the number of people in hats and focus on faces, this does seem quite a blunder. Sure self shadowing objects aren't the simplest of things to implement, however when striving for this level of realism, it's essential.

So they finally made something (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34205452)

I nearly ended up working for Team Bondi about 4 years ago. At the time, they had already been working for a few years, and didn't even have a working codebase they could show me, just lots of vague designs and promises. I wrote the place and the project off as just a way of milking money from investors, and went on my way to work elsewhere.
Now if Rockstar have pushed them into making an actual game, based on the huge amount of background research they were talking about when I saw them, I could have been very wrong to write them off. I'd like to be proven wrong, if they've done what they were talking about back then, then it'll be the kind of game that shows that video games can indeed compete with other forms of art.
I just hope they haven't churned out a quick shooter to try and prove they weren't another Duke Nukem Forever team.

Oscar nomination? (1)

Yuioup (452151) | more than 3 years ago | (#34205544)

The animation looks impressive. I wonder if games will become sophisticated enough to merit Oscar nominations.

If Andy Serkis kan be nominated for an Oscar in Lord of the Rings for his performance as Smeagol/Gollum, surely the same can happen to voice/motion capture actors in games.

Y

Re:Oscar nomination? (1)

macaddict (91085) | more than 3 years ago | (#34205820)

I wonder if games will become sophisticated enough to merit Oscar nominations.

Not likely. The Oscars are for films, given by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. Television actors (even in "made for TV" movies) and theater actors don't get Oscars either.

Re:Oscar nomination? (1)

delinear (991444) | more than 3 years ago | (#34207260)

Video games seem to be a serious competitor in the entertainment industry, it's not inconceivable that they could usurp movies. Who is behind the Oscars anyway? If it's the stuios, they'd have a vested interest in keeping the newcomers locked out, if it's an independent body they might want to get on board before it's too late. And I wonder what happens as the line between the two blurs still further. I'm thinking a movie that uses clever scripting to allow the audience to shape the experience somehow, so a very simplistic game, but a game nonetheless.

Re:Oscar nomination? (1)

jackbird (721605) | more than 3 years ago | (#34254818)

It would be a different awards ceremony. Television, books, stage drama, and recorded music area all major parts of the entertainment industry, and have their own awards. Sometimes these overlap (i.e. the Emmy awards), but the oscars are and will always be about movies, because they're awarded by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. Even the technical Oscars, which have been given for things that are fundamental to video game production (Premultiplied alpha, for example), were given because they represented huge advances for film visual effects.

Re:Oscar nomination? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34206110)

Actually, video games would fall under the realm of the Peabody Award.

Re:Oscar nomination? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34206422)

Any ladies out there want to win a pee body award? Ealry 40s male, well hung, hard body, very generous iso shaved asian or caucasion female under 30 to engage in water play and possibly scat. DD free.

Props! (1)

KuRa_Scvls (932317) | more than 3 years ago | (#34205694)

Team Bondi (pronounced bondai) is Sydney based, and judging from the trailer, they seem to be doing a wonderful job.

Good on ya!

So it *looks* good (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#34206190)

How is the actual story and gameplay?

Re:So it *looks* good (1)

BobMcD (601576) | more than 3 years ago | (#34206728)

Yeah, I had this same thought as well. I hadn't heard of the game until today, and while the trailer tells you about the setting and the cutscenes, it tells you absolutely nothing about how to play the game. Do you sit there and press 'X' to advance from one cutscene to the next, like a movie? Maybe with options, like one of those DVD games? The game is from Rockstar, so do you spend the time in between cutscenes stealing 40's era cars and beating up classy Betty Grable-style hookers? I'm confused.

Re:So it *looks* good (1)

delinear (991444) | more than 3 years ago | (#34207288)

To be honest, even if it boils down to a period GTA with prettier cutscenes I wouldn't be entirely disappointed. I'm surprised they haven't explored GTA in other settings (locale and time period) a little more, I'd love some European GTA titles (I know they did GTA London a long time ago, how about an update with the new engine).

No PC version. (1)

wiggles (30088) | more than 3 years ago | (#34206596)

No PC version? Rockstar won't be getting any of my money...

Re:No PC version. (3, Insightful)

delinear (991444) | more than 3 years ago | (#34207300)

Well, let's see how this plays out. These days if a title is "exclusive" to a particular console, it just means it will be released for all other platforms three months later.

Re:No PC version. (2, Interesting)

imakemusic (1164993) | more than 3 years ago | (#34207598)

Well I couldn't play GTA:IV on my machine even on lowest settings, despite it meeting the requirements, so I wouldn't be in a hurry to buy another Rockstar game for PC anyway.

A giant leap forward in game design (1)

presto87 (1942172) | more than 3 years ago | (#34264402)

This game looks like it will be really, really amazing. Too bad they didn't release a video with gameplay, but I'm really looking forward to when it finally comes out
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