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Nokia Builds a Touchscreen Display Made of Ice

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the cold-touch dept.

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hasanabbas1987 writes "Touchscreens have been with us for quite some time now and we have seen all kinds of them: resistive touch, capacitive, multi-touch, etc. However, Nokia's research lab in Tampere, Finland has developed a rather unique kind of touchscreen: a touchscreen made of ice. Well, to be honest, it's not really a touchscreen for everyday use, nor is it very portable, as the rig includes a projector and some infrared cameras (PDF) which are connected to a computer, but after all it's a touchscreen made out of ice and that is quite remarkable. Nokia says this 'playful experiment' reveals that interactive touch displays can be built anywhere, and we are very sure that Mr. Freeze from Batman will be highly interested in the project."

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After what break? (4, Informative)

netsharc (195805) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298186)

Wow, nice straight copy and paste job of the blog post there...

Direct link to article (3, Informative)

minsk (805035) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298514)

For anyone who doesn't feel like clicking through the slow copy-and-paste blog to get to the actual NewScientist article:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20827875.800-worlds-first-ice-touchscreen-virtually-burns.html

Sorry, forgot /. doesn't auto-link http:// (NT) (1)

minsk (805035) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298632)

No text. Really.

Re:After what break? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34323072)

Wow, nice straight copy and paste job of the blog post there...

http://www.fixonsolutions.com or http://www.effexon.com
OMG you all must be slow you can buy these or visit them t see the TECHNOLOGY is not fake they are cheap also but anyways it's not PR stunt, they just letting you know that APPLE dd not invent touch screens

Nokia finally listened (2, Funny)

mhh91 (1784516) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298190)

to the voices of the north pole population

Maybe there IS a use for it... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34298194)

Be kind of interesting if they made this for that "Ice Hotel" that gets built every so often.

Re:Maybe there IS a use for it... (4, Interesting)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298308)

"Every so often"? I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's probably built regularly around once a year. Usually around the same time to boot.

Re:Maybe there IS a use for it... (4, Informative)

Securityemo (1407943) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298512)

Yah, I live in Kiruna (you can see the site from the hill across my house if you have a good set of binoculars). The Ice Hotel gets rebuilt from ice blocks hauled up from the frozen Torne river every year. I believe it's some sort of collaborative art/architechtural project as far as the actual design and building goes, but I'm not really sure. It's privately owned, in any case.

Re:Maybe there IS a use for it... (1)

sznupi (719324) | more than 3 years ago | (#34457838)

It seems the Ice Hotel is made more out of snow, similar to this [wikipedia.org] - how does it manage to pass building regulations?! ;)

Either way, it nicely adds to the already "fun" ;) neighborhood - together with space academic departments, an European spaceport that's actually in Europe or, in the future, Spaceport Sweden... (could be interesting during arctic night / maybe even inside an aurora) ...NVM moving the town (even if buildings being simply torn down seems to be ignoring great opportunity ;) )

Re:Maybe there IS a use for it... (3, Funny)

mickwd (196449) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298574)

...around once a year. Usually around the same time to boot.

Man, they need to work on those init scripts. Get some services starting in parallel.....

Re:Maybe there IS a use for it... (2, Funny)

camperslo (704715) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298530)

Well, it looks like we have a new toy for those spy shows. It'd be kinda funny to see images on an ice cube in s cocktail, with a tongue touch interface. Another reason to hire spies with long tongues...

But will they be able to power it all from a slice of lemon? Toothpick WiFi antenna... Olive processor.

Cool (1)

rossdee (243626) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298200)

It would work well here in Minnesota durring the 5 months of winter

Re:Cool (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298242)

It would work well here in Minnesota durring the 5 months of winter

No No No! It's infrared! It would melt everything. Besides, it would likely exacerbate Global Warming.

Re:Cool (5, Funny)

AdmiralXyz (1378985) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298284)

Cool

Icy what you did there.

Re:Cool (3, Funny)

houghi (78078) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298992)

Please do not use this type of chilling humor.

Re:Cool (2, Funny)

Amorymeltzer (1213818) | more than 3 years ago | (#34299606)

Well, what are your remedies? You going to give him the cold shoulder?

Just to clarify (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34298238)

It's not really a "touch screen" like on an iPad et al, it's really a "touch surface" like on the Microsoft Surface [wikipedia.org] .

Styluses (1)

AnonymousClown (1788472) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298240)

I'll be sure to have a glass of Scotch or Bourbon to use as a stylus.

cool (2, Insightful)

weorthe (666189) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298254)

Just don't put your tongue on it.

Re:cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34298286)

I wouldn't put my tongue on a normal touch screen either...

Re:cool (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34298564)

Well, that's because you are not apple fanboi.. They are seen licking their own, er, devices...

Re:cool (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#34299656)

Sigh, you do realize that that's an urban legend, right? Your tongue can't stay stuck there for very long as both your tongue and your breath have heat. You just pull in closer and breath on the pole. It comes unstuck quite quickly.

Re:cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34300126)

You mentioned a 'pole', are you talking about metal or ice? As far as metal is concerned, I guess breathing might work if it's very close to freezing, but at proper winter temperatures it's not likely to be useful anymore.

Ice will, of course, melt quickly.

Re:cool (1)

Sir_Lewk (967686) | more than 3 years ago | (#34301284)

You realize it still hurts like hell right? Speaking from personal experience, I can assure you that "don't lick metal poles during winter" is very sound advice.

Re:cool (1)

sznupi (719324) | more than 3 years ago | (#34450296)

What I want to know - why would anybody lick metal poles at any time of the year?

no fingerprints? (1)

Cyko_01 (1092499) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298292)

Maybe this could solve the problem of leaving fingerprints behind (for people to lift and mimic) in high security areas. Just use it and when you are done you can just melt it down or blast the surface with a blow torch.

Limited applications? (1)

gilesjuk (604902) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298336)

Maybe David Blaine will have one next time he stands outside in a block of ice?

More details (4, Informative)

minsk (805035) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298364)

That work was just published at the ACM Interactive Tabletops and Surfaces conference, so there is a rather more coherent explanation (and another video) at:
http://www.dfki.de/its2010/papers/sp199.html [www.dfki.de]

(Not affiliated with either group, but ITS was a lot of fun)

Suitable for cold climates, I'm sure. (1)

LongearedBat (1665481) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298426)

In really cold weather regular touch screens would probably freeze up and stop working from the cold. So an ice touch screen would be perfect, especially for a cold place such as Finland. Well, at least for part of the year.

Do you think the elves who work for Santa Claus at the North Pole would be interested in this?

Re:Suitable for cold climates, I'm sure. (2, Funny)

Sulphur (1548251) | more than 3 years ago | (#34299830)

Do you think the elves who work for Santa Claus at the North Pole would be interested in this?

All the elves at this year's New Elves Workshop got icePods.

Re:Suitable for cold climates, I'm sure. (1)

LongearedBat (1665481) | more than 3 years ago | (#34302576)

ROFL =D

Re:Suitable for cold climates, I'm sure. (1)

Sir_Lewk (967686) | more than 3 years ago | (#34301522)

With the amount of power the lamps in projectors take, I think you could pretty easily heat a normal display to keep it operational.

Re:Suitable for cold climates, I'm sure. (1)

sznupi (719324) | more than 3 years ago | (#34304478)

The location is actually not North Pole, but some place in the Lapland region of...Finland. Only fitting / I'm sure there's more to the story with this touchscreen.

Congratulations Nokia, you accomplished nothing. (-1, Troll)

jimmetry (1801872) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298454)

Projector-based touch surfaces have existed for years. All Nokia have done is, rather than using the conventional surface material (glass with a matte finish), they've made a few blocks of ice to use instead and played with a few thresholds. Sounds to me like an attempt to sound edgy to the masses when really they're way behind.

Re:Congratulations Nokia, you accomplished nothing (2, Informative)

minsk (805035) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298494)

Blame the idiotic coverage rather than the folks building the wall. They're well aware it was just a cool (sorry) art piece. And shared their experiences for anyone who wants to build or build on the design.

What about frosted glass? (1)

Meshuggah24 (1683458) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298544)

Why ice? Wouldn't frosted glass work just as well? And wouldn't that be able to be applied anywhere all year round instead of just cold areas. Is there some special light property ice has?

Re:What about frosted glass? (2, Insightful)

minsk (805035) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298612)

Fun :)

And shared experience, so someone else will have a little less tinkering to do when they look at this and go "Hey, I wonder if I could..."

Re:What about frosted glass? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34307252)

Because an ice touchscreen will generate more interest and press coverage than one made from frosted glass.

actually (1)

BlackBloq (702158) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298626)

MR Freeze would hate this. He is cold as ice so the device wouldn't work for him.

what the hell does "after the break" mean? (1)

PJ6 (1151747) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298634)

It *might* make sense to include a note about the page layout in the text beyond simply "see below" if everyone's browser window were always the same size. I usually see "after the break" in the middle of a page, and I'm always like - What break? Where? What the hell are you talking about? Does it mean something I'm not getting, or are the authors really that stupid?

Re:what the hell does "after the break" mean? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34298844)

when you view the overview of all posts, typically you will only see the beginning of the post. "after the break" means you have to click to view the full post before you see the content they are referring to.

Re:what the hell does "after the break" mean? (1)

PJ6 (1151747) | more than 3 years ago | (#34299646)

Yeah, no, I'm not talking about the ./ post, but the article it points to, and all those like it.

Don't use your tongue... (3, Funny)

Trip6 (1184883) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298646)

...gives "Sticky Keys" new meaning...

Re:Don't use your tongue... (1)

EricFr (1611979) | more than 3 years ago | (#34300520)

sticking to ice is usually only a 5 second problem, sticking to a metal pole however....

That's ice and all, but... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34298728)

I give it a couple of months before it becomes vaporware.

As long as it's not... (1)

TeethWhitener (1625259) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298802)

...Ice-nine.

Nerd Up (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 3 years ago | (#34298928)

I think Superman may have prior art.

Know your audience (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 3 years ago | (#34299128)

"from batman" was unnecessary. All the geeks here know who Mr. Freeze is.

Re:Know your audience (1)

The_mad_linguist (1019680) | more than 3 years ago | (#34300072)

Governor of California, right?

The end of the video... (4, Funny)

orphiuchus (1146483) | more than 3 years ago | (#34299132)

"The system could be used in cold countries for interactive displays..." I couldn't help but laugh at that. I just imagine them showing up in Alaska planning to sell this to all the Eskimo's to use in their igloos and being shocked that they actually have heated homes now.

Re:The end of the video... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34300792)

Yeah, cause Finns know nothing about cold weather what with only a quarter of the country inside the Arctic circle.

We Eskimos have always been forgotten... (1)

Brafil (1933028) | more than 3 years ago | (#34299230)

... now we finally have touch screens! *goes off buys Nokia smartphone*

shi7? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34299994)

bureaucra7ic and

"It's not really a touch screen!" (1)

Ichido (896924) | more than 3 years ago | (#34300036)

This is NEWS? Nokia Makes multi-touch interactive display made of Ice "Touchscreens have been with us for quite some time now and we have seen all kind of them, resistive touch, capacitive, multi-touch, etc. However, Nokia’s research lab in Tampere, Finland has developed a rather unique kind of touchscreen, a touchscreen made of ice. Well to be honest it’s not really a touchscreen for everyday use, nor is it very portable as the rig includes a projector and some infrared cameras which are connected to a computer, but after all it’s a touch screen made out of ice and that is quite remarkable. Nokia says that this “Playful experiment” reveals that interactive touch displays can be built anywhere and we are very sure that Mr. Freeze from Batman will be highly interested in the project. Watch the MAGIC ice in action after the break."

mod 0p (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34300176)

more gran3iose [goat.cx]

Mr. Freeze? (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 3 years ago | (#34301234)

Forget about Mr. Freeze, this is the kind of technology that is welcomed by all Canadians!

That's really neat. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34301732)

Now if only they could build a phone that worked and was actually worth developing for.

Now we just need ice (1)

mysidia (191772) | more than 3 years ago | (#34301842)

Ice that doesn't melt at room temperature.

Otherwise, this product could have a very short lifetime after purchase.....

Re:Now we just need ice (1)

sznupi (719324) | more than 3 years ago | (#34450246)

Be careful what you wish for... [wikipedia.org] (that said, some form of pykrete based on translucent fibers could largely do the trick, especially for various values of "room temperature")

Superman needs this... (1)

Mattness (636060) | more than 3 years ago | (#34302478)

Perfect for the Fortress of Solitude secret project they've not yet announced up there in the land of snow and ice.

leanspa (1)

johnniegonzalez (1945092) | more than 3 years ago | (#34303910)

go to the phone settings and click enable the option operator logo on, the phone will automatically save your logo however,it is not possible to have it in the standbymode as your phone doesnot support that feature.. http://twitter.com/leanspaacia1 [twitter.com]

Hand Zambonis (1)

T.E.D. (34228) | more than 3 years ago | (#34304192)

After extended use, an ice touchscreen would probably become a bit pitted. I see a nice new market for Zamboni!

Global Warming? (1)

Dabido (802599) | more than 3 years ago | (#34304792)

Oh great, and in ten years we'll be running out of ice and need to mine something else to make touch screens!!!!

Now if we only knew what they were made of! (1)

radtea (464814) | more than 3 years ago | (#34307004)

I've only read the headline, but it left me wondering: "What on Earth are these things made of?"

It's too bad the headline doesn't provide any information at all about the composition of these displays. For some reason the /. editors have opted for some non-geeky marketing-speak that completely ignores the facts and instead goes for... well, something, I guess. I don't know what.

I guess they think people here are dumb enough to go read a summary with a deliberately misleading headline, and then go and read a story with a deliberately misleading summary. What they've done instead is drive anyone intellegent to google "new Nokia display technology" and find some actual information.

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