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US Government Seizes Torrent Search Engine Domain

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the war-on-torrents dept.

Government 305

Voulnet writes with this excerpt from TorrentFreak: "This morning, visitors to the Torrent-Finder.com site are greeted with an ominous graphic which indicates that ICE has seized the site's domain. 'My domain has been seized without any previous complaint or notice from any court!' the exasperated owner of Torrent-Finder told TorrentFreak this morning. 'I firstly had DNS downtime. While I was contacting GoDaddy, I noticed the DNS had changed. GoDaddy had no idea what was going on and until now they do not understand the situation and they say it was totally from ICANN,' he explained. Aside from the fact that domains are being seized seemingly at will, there is a very serious problem with the action against Torrent-Finder. Not only does the site not host or even link to any torrents whatsoever, it actually only returns searches through embedded iframes which display other sites that are not under the control of the Torrent-Finder owner."

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Hoax (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34350672)

This is a hoax. Whois the IP's involved.

Re:Hoax (1)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350872)

I had a big ole analysis to post to this, but slashdot was complaining it was too long.

With that said, I dont know how you think this is a hoax. I see no proof one way or the other. It is leading back to a Hosting company in South Carolina.
Is this the original hosting company? Who knows. But it would be dependent on what the hosting company says about what is going on. Did they put up that graphic or did the owner of the site?
However, this story does not surprise me. We have given away so many freedoms that this could have been executed under any act, including the patriot act.

Re:Hoax (2, Interesting)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350942)

Looks like the site got redirected to that SC hosting company
After reading TFA I found SOFTLAYER is the host of torrent-finder.com/ torrent-finder.info
So... how is this a hoax? Please explain your findings.

Re:Hoax (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34351202)

Confirmed: Not a hoax. NetSol (used to be) private registration leads to immixGroup IT Solutions, working for the public-sector (US Government) out of Virginia.

See also: SEIZEDSERVERS.COM registered two days ago.

This isn't a question of your country giving away your freedoms. This is a question of international responsibility, lack of it, and the impartiality and global importance of the DNS.

Now, states seizing their own domains is one thing and subject to their laws, and the US does own .COM, .ORG and .NET and unilateral actions without any form of apparent judicial warrant or oversight like this will shift people away from them. The old WHOIS data was deliberately invalid, so under the rules, they don't need notice. Even so, one of the affected sites is a .TV - I wonder what Tuvalu would have to say about this, diplomatically speaking? dotTV may be 80% owned by Verisign, but it's still 20% owned by Tuvalu. I wonder if this was cleared by them?

International reaction from this could be interesting - the host is only a little tier2. They are watching, and it appearing on the news is obviously making a bit of noise. They may get substantially more interest than they expected in the short-term, but it will wane unless they do something really stupid like target a high-profile site or, God help us, a fully-autonomous ccTLD on the DNS root - which, on their little power-trip, they might. One does hope they wouldn't be so... foolish: bullies get their toys taken away.

Party Pooper (1, Funny)

Thing I am (761900) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350880)

Hey don't take away our fun of believing everything we read on the Internet and making wild speculations!

Re:Hoax (3, Interesting)

Svippy (876087) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351080)

This is a hoax. Whois the IP's involved.

I did. And torrent-finder.info resolves to 208.101.51.56, while torrent-finder.com resolves to 74.81.170.110.

On first inspection, those two IPs seems to be very distant from one another IP-block-wise, but you never know with the internet, so both got a whois, and apparently 208.101.51.56 is owned by Softlayer (as a poster prior to me mentions), while 74.81.170.110 is owned by Caroline Internet, Ltd.

So maybe the guy changed the IP for his .com-address and bought hosting somewhere else? I don't know what this Caroline Internet, Ltd. But if he did buy a virtual machine at a datacentre, then I will say 'will played, good sir!' That is a lot of a bucks spend to fake a site takeover.

Re:Hoax (3, Interesting)

mauriceh (3721) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351148)

CarolinA Internet - Lets get that name straight first.
They are in Charlotte, NORTH Carolina - Lets get the location right as well.

They are well know for hosting porn and other dodgy sites.

AND they are crooks. A lot of their equipment has been fraudulently obtained.

https://www.caro.net/about [caro.net]

There, just setting the facts straight.

Re:Hoax (1)

Svippy (876087) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351212)

Thank you. The unintional misspelling of their name probably let to the wrong results online. Though, I did find caro.net, which seems to be a datacentre.

My point remains regarding whether it is a hoax. I doubt the owner of torrent-finder purchased a machine at a datacentre to successfully carry out the hoax.

So even if they are crooks, and does host porn and other dodgy sites. The conclusion should be that either the government is lending servers for their ceases from crooks (which would not seem unreasonable) or this was committed by hackers who liked to pose as government officials (though, I doubt how they got it through ICANN in that regard, if the owner is to be believed).

Re:Hoax (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34351194)

Poison? In my DNS nameserver? It's more likely then you think!

Don't use godaddy (1)

Sean (422) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350674)

They have done things like this before.

Re:Don't use godaddy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34350690)

They have done things like this before.

[citation needed]

Re:Don't use godaddy (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34350858)

They have done things like this before.

[citation needed]

Really? Do you not read slashdot that often? Search Slashdot archives. There's your citation.

too popular, you get killed (1)

Gunstick (312804) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350678)

the site was popular. So it's not if the contents is on the site, only in iframes or only linked. The site is popular and mostly used for "bad" stuff.
So it gets kicked.

Well, message to other torrent searches: don't become popular :-)

Or don't use .com or other top level domain under government control.

I wonder what would have happened if the site had only an IP address instead of a DNS name.

First?

Don't use GoDaddy? All warez sites use GoDaddy !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34350692)

GoDaddy takes any scum with $. Ill-gotten then all the better. Google it if you are new to GoDaddy !!

Slippery Slope continues. (5, Insightful)

Tovias (798585) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350696)

How long before the government takes control of sites that hosts or links to information that the government just doesn't like or deems "unpatriotic"? What kind of oversight is involved before the government can just take down a site? I'm not pro-piracy or advocating it in any way, but I'm definitely all for due process.

Re:Slippery Slope continues. (5, Insightful)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350788)

What kind of oversight is involved before the government can just take down a site?

Thats the thing - apparently there isn't any! The site owner didn't know what was going on, and even his web host had to do some investigating to figure it out. If neither of them were adequately informed about whats going on - that suggests some serious inbalance in power. People worried about an Internet Kill Switch? This demonstrates they already effectively have access to such a mechanism.

And given that the site doesn't hosts the files themselves, only links to other sites - NONE of this should have happened. This is no different then me going "Hit Movie Torrent" in Google and clicking on a link that takes me to the sites with Torrents. Why hasn't Google been taken offline? In fact I'm sure most people who want to get into Torrenting go use Google to find the Bittorrent application. Then they use Google to find a torrent site.

It's injustice, they aren't blindly applying law as it should be - they're picking and choosing who they want. And the laws they've posted on the Torrent-finder aren't even relevant! Wilful Copyright infringement: Torrent finder isn't infringing on the copyrights. They are not hosting or distributing them either. Trafficking counterfeit goods - not only is a direct copy of the data not counterfeit but again, they aren't the ones trafficking the data.

Re:Slippery Slope continues. (1)

phyrexianshaw.ca (1265320) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350838)

Why hasn't Google been taken offline?

Because they pay taxes in the USA. :P

Re:Slippery Slope continues. (3, Insightful)

dyfet (154716) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351032)

I think they pay them in Ireland, actually, and at a nicely reduced rate, too :)

Re:Slippery Slope continues. (1)

Kazymyr (190114) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351070)

Maybe they don't pay taxes, but they do pay "taxes", i.e. financial contributions to political campaigns.

Re:Slippery Slope continues. (3, Insightful)

bhagwad (1426855) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350896)

Isn't due process a constitutionally guaranteed right in the US?

Re:Slippery Slope continues. (2, Insightful)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350930)

It should be. If I were the site owner, I would start a giant lawsuit in the multi-millions for damages caused. Not only for lost traffic (thus lost revenue) but also damages to their reputation.

Re:Slippery Slope continues. (1, Insightful)

camperdave (969942) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351166)

So? Due process does not involve informing the criminals* that you are shutting them down. Due process means getting court approval. Just because neither the website owner nor hosting service were informed does not mean that due process was not followed. Lack of communication does not imply lack of due process.

I am not saying that hosting a torrent site, or even linking to a torrent site is criminal.

Re:Slippery Slope continues. (1)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351206)

I am not saying that hosting a torrent site, or even linking to a torrent site is criminal.

Would you say that informing the public of what is considered criminal should be part of Due Process?

Re:Slippery Slope continues. (4, Insightful)

bhagwad (1426855) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351222)

Doesn't it require due process in order to label a particular act as criminal in the first place? And doesn't that involve the right to defend your act before it's labelled as criminal?

Re:Slippery Slope continues. (1)

mschaffer (97223) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351236)

Unfortunately, the US Government thinks the Constitution is just wasted toilet paper.
In the grand scheme of things, compared to the Guantanamo Bay detention facility, the TSA, and other jack booted trampling on civil rights, taking down a website is small potatoes.

Re:Slippery Slope continues. (2, Insightful)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350964)

Actually it wasnt the "site owner", it was a DNS redirect. Or in the hacking world a "DNS poison" initiated by the government, owners and controllers of ICANN.

Re:Slippery Slope continues. (4, Interesting)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350966)

    I'd suspect it won't be very long. The Internet was generally untouchable. With flexing new found power, they will expand the use of it until the people complain too much about it.

    Consider air travel. It went from x-rays and metal detectors, to puff/sniffer rooms to detect for explosives, to full bodyscans and intrusive patdowns. When enough people started refusing to get more radiation on every flight than they get from normal medical screenings, it became a problem. And yes, I'm one of them. I refused standing in the machines, not for the sake of a political stand, but for the sake that it's not necessary. We, a people as a whole, are refusing to submit to the continued abuses, and they realize that they have to back down.

    I guess the question then becomes, what action will the people take about this? Do they passively accept that the government did this for our safety? Then the actions will continue. Soon enough, people will see that sites like this are now directed to seizedservers.com, with two IP's and the web server on the same subnet at CaroNet Managed Hosting, Inc, and the domains are now "owned" by "immexGroup IT Solutions", a government contractor. Expect the DDoS to begin, but not without retaliation by the government.

    Americans have become passivized. They may moan and groan about things that they don't like, but they won't take actions against it. Most likely, users of seized sites will just say "oh, that sucks", and move on to somewhere else, until they find that the other things they enjoy are gone also.

    Slashdot is down the list a bit, but I wouldn't be totally surprised if some folks would like to see it go away. There are the trolls, who can just (and still) be ignored. There are those who preach passive acceptance, which is in the best interest of the government overreaching their powers. And finally, there are some who say "Stand up against what you believe are injustices". If there's anything the government hates more than those who mess with corporate America, it's those who try to suppress the government's uncontrolled powers. And I am one of the later. If you don't like it, stand up against it. Don't just make a little noise. Make a lot. If you do this, you may find yourself with a good number of followers, and you yourself may find yourself participating in government. What would we do with leaders who actually believe in and protect the freedoms of the individuals?

Re:Slippery Slope continues. (4, Informative)

marcelC (592689) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351118)

ImmixGroup seems to have "been awarded a contract with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Cyber Crimes Center (C3)" http://www.immixgroup.com/news/pr_display.cfm?ID=117 [immixgroup.com] . That would make a hoax unlikely.

Re:Slippery Slope continues. (1)

visualight (468005) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351158)

The only way to beat this is with money. A large scale boycott of big media would change everything, but that suggestion never gets any traction.

It's been almost 10 years since I purchased a CD, DVD, or a ticket to the movies. I say so in conversation whenever the topic comes up. I've suggested in on /. several times but it never seems to get any traction ('it's too hard, not enough people will participate so I won't either, etc).

Fools are always on slashdot bitching about the state of copyright law, all the while giving money to the greedy bastards that wrote those laws.

Stop worrying about whether enough people will support a boycott and just look at yourself. Find some personal integrity ffs.

Bullshit (1)

metrix007 (200091) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350702)

I can't believe the scare tactics that are being used, as well as the fact there was no good reason to take this guys domain. What kinds of bullshit powers are these where people don't have a chance to defend their property, when it isn't even being user to solicit illegal activity as per caselaw?

Re:Bullshit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34350992)

I can't believe the scare tactics that are being used, as well as the fact there was no good reason to take this guys domain. What kinds of bullshit powers are these where people don't have a chance to defend their property, when it isn't even being user to solicit illegal activity as per caselaw?

Well, sadly, Team America: World Police [imdb.com] has become true for copyrighted stuff.

Now the rest of the world has to deal with your asshat corporations and laws. America has now officially become a tyrant. Fuck you all. I'm sure they will start applying the morality of the puritans on the rest of us.

People fear Islam? You should fear American corporate interests -- at least a good portion of Muslims are sane and normal people. The same can't be said for multinationals.

There goes U.S. Control of ICANN. (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350706)

in 3, 2, 1 ...

Re:There goes U.S. Control of ICANN. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34350856)

Well it won't be coming to the UK as they are proposing exactly the same thing.

Homeland Security... (5, Insightful)

TheLink (130905) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350716)

Good to see the US Gov has its priorities right.

I'm sure everyone in the US can sleep easy at night, knowing that Homeland Security is keeping a vigilant eye over torrents and other similar threats to the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave.

Re:Homeland Security... (3, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350766)

I'm sure everyone in the US can sleep easy at night, knowing that Homeland Security is keeping a vigilant eye over torrents and other similar threats to the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave.

Have you missed the parts lately where protection of US copyrights is a matter of national security?

Why do you think that god awful ACTRA treaty is being pushed down everyone else's throats?

Expect this to become commonplace -- anything which can deemed to have a primary function of telling people where to download copyrighted works will be squashed quite thoroughly. I fully expect the RIAA/MPAA to allow the rest of us to use the internet under their terms now.

Re:Homeland Security... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34350994)

someone probably searched for one of al-awlki's videos. But if that is the case why is the intellectual properties in on it. There is also plenty of linux distros, and other such free content available through the site. The problem is with the source of the torrents but that is too hard to get so they are hoping they are swinging with a sledge hammer at anything that moves. Either way maybe sites like this should start using alt dns.

Re:Homeland Security... (1)

Spad (470073) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351228)

It *is* a matter of national security. The US and other "Western" nations have now farmed out so much of their manufacturing infrastructure to places like China that pretty much the only thing they "make" any more is Intellectual Property. Thus, protecting that property from anything that removes its revenue stream from their control - be that Torrenting, counterfeiting or the heinous crime of listening to a song twice having only paid for it once - is essential to ensure the continued survival of the economy.

Re:Homeland Security... (1)

westlake (615356) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351252)

I'm sure everyone in the US can sleep easy at night, knowing that Homeland Security is keeping a vigilant eye over torrents and other similar threats to the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave.

ICE [ice.gov] is U.S.Immigration and Customs Emforcement, the principal investigative arm of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the second largest investigative agency in the federal government.

ICE now has more than 20,000 employees in more than 400 offices in the United States and 46 foreign countries.

Crimes with an interstate and international dimension are a federal responsibility --- and that is something the geek is going to have to learn to live with.

Cyber Crimes Center [ice.gov]

Notification (1)

Amorymeltzer (1213818) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350720)

Ignoring all other issues, doesn't the government need to notify you when they seize your property? I can't imagine they would take your car or computer and just have you figure it out when you get home at night to find it missing, like seems to have happened here.

Re:Notification (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34350862)

They don't need to notify you. They need to notify the court and a court has to issue a search warrant. In this case, it is just a seizure of property.

But then the whois information for Torrent Finder,

Registrant:
      Torrent Finder
      15 Alexandria St.
      N/A
      Alexandria, 55555
      Egypt

      Administrative Contact:
            Gadelkareem, Waleed kurtubba@gmail.com
            Torrent Finder
            N/A
            N/A
            Alexandria, 55555
            Egypt
            20121578967 Fax -- 2034411838

So, the contact information is most likely bogus. maps.google.com can't find that address. Heck, it's not even remotely close to street names in Alexandria. The phone numbers lead to a mobile phone and some fixed line (for fax). So that *could* be correct... But then heck, this could be part of some anti-terrorist operation too and who knows, maybe torrent-finder.com was used to sponsor terrorism??

In any case, maybe try contacting the people that have the domain now to figure out what has happened.

Re:Notification (1, Offtopic)

phyrexianshaw.ca (1265320) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350908)

this has been my #1 problem with whois information. every domain should contain up to date whois information, and it should be checked every 90-180 days. failing a check should result in immanent expiry of the domain (after sufficient warning has been issued).

Re:Notification (2, Insightful)

rickb928 (945187) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351058)

Well, the phone +011 20 12 157-8967 would resolve to a mobile number in Egypt, the area code being non location-specific.

+011 20 3 441-1838 (the fax number) would resolve to Alexandria, Egypt, area code 3 and all.

201-215-78967 doesn't work as a DC-area number.

So let's believe the contact data and stipulate that Waleed lives in Egypt.

Also, he registered some other domains that have names consistent with an Arab-based business. And DHS might, just might, have some other interest in an Egyptian web site than just torrents, though the content it linked to might be the problem.

I'm not happy with these confiscations, but this doesn't seem to be as pointless as it might.

Oh well, another great story shot to hell.

Well let's just fix that. (1)

phyrexianshaw.ca (1265320) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350724)

who's got the IP of torrent freak? let's just get together and put up a public DNS server somewhere of domains that have been blocked.

Re:Well let's just fix that. (1)

phyrexianshaw.ca (1265320) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350728)

and by that, apparently I mean torrent-finder... which I've never even heard of. o.O

208.100.11.174 (4, Informative)

bradley13 (1118935) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350742)

208.100.11.174

Hardcode that into your HOSTS files... apk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34351132)

Add that to your HOSTS files using a text editor, & enter it in the form of

e.g.-> 216.34.181.48 it.slashdot.org

(Replacing "it.slashdot.org" with the correct domain/host name for the site you're trying to reach, of course_

Why?

Well, because - this lets YOU act as your OWN "DNS server", more-or-less, and lets you also go FASTER to said site & in a MORE SECURE MANNER also...

(Simply because you're not asking ANY DNS server, which can be bushwhacked (see here for yesterday's example done to SECUNIA.COM no less by a hacker/cracker -> http://secunia.com/blog/153 [secunia.com] ), and, it additionally not only makes you FASTER, but, it also makes it possible for you to reach said site even if the DNS server you reference is down (or hijacked per the Kaminsky flaw being used to redirect them) as well as avoiding DNS request logs (which CAN 'track you' more easily than other means since you call on them asking them questions).

APK

P.S.=> This just makes it more "automated" & easy for you all, as well as a faster way to get there + to avoid being "DNS log tracked" (which CAN "work against you", think about it)... & if they change it again? Re-Ping said site & the TLD that does NOTHING but resolve hosts/domains to their correct IP will give you a correct IP address (provided you're NOT being "man-in-the-middle" attacked) to reinsert into your hosts file to update it...

Some "food for thought" & a little "tip/trick/technique" for ease-of-use... apk

Re:Well let's just fix that. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34350756)

http://torrent-finder.info/ [torrent-finder.info]
http://208.101.51.57/ [208.101.51.57]

same destination

Re:Well let's just fix that. (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351258)

http://torrent-finder.info/ [torrent-finder.info] http://208.101.51.57/ [208.101.51.57]

same destination

At this point, isn't the horse out of the barn? How do you know that 208.101.51.57 is the real ip address or the corrupt one?

Alternative DNS (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34350744)

I believe its time to support alternative DNS resolution that is outside of the governments control and possible a network of VPN's or Onion-like routing.

Re:Alternative DNS (1)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350804)

I second that motion.

Re:Alternative DNS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34351088)

until you are forbidden by law to make your alternative DNS system.

Re:Alternative DNS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34351174)

Mod parent up!

It's all about Money (4, Insightful)

bkmoore (1910118) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350758)

Unless you've been living behind Jupiter, you probably have figured out that the government is for sale to the highest bidder. You can bet that the RIAA, MPA, etc. have all made their political donations and now are cashing in. Most legislation in America is written by lobbyists anyway. But it's nice that the DHS is keeping us safe not just in the skies, but online as well.

Re:It's all about Money (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34351168)

Unless you've been living behind Jupiter,

What, Uranus is not funny anymore?

Not the hope and change you're looking for (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34350772)

$9 million [opensecrets.org] of campaign contributions buys you a lot I guess.

Re:Not the hope and change you're looking for (1)

bkmoore (1910118) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351010)

For all their shouting matches, the thing both parties have in common is both offer their legislative services to the highest bidder. The voters only matter on election day if at all. Actual elections are tolerated as a necessary evil. Where I originally come from, the one thing both Republicans and Democrats actually agree on is gerrymandering themselves safe districts to prevent elections from actually deciding anything.

Source of Copyrighted Material (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34350774)

Come on, everyone knows that torrent sites are just a repository for unauthorized copyrighted material that gets distributed illegally. About time action is taken against those these criminals.

Re:Source of Copyrighted Material (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34351084)

Come on, everyone knows that torrent sites are just a repository for unauthorized copyrighted material that gets distributed illegally. About time action is taken against those these criminals.

Attention mods ... the above is full-on irony (in the real sense of the word).

This is exactly the line of reasoning which has allowed the RIAA/MPAA to have a US government agency shut down this site. Congratulations America, you have become corporate shills.

Now, fuck off and get your hands off the internet, you hypocritical cocksuckers. If China or Iran did this you'd be winging about freedom and democracy -- when you do it, it's all in the name of defending free enterprise. Land of the free, my ass.

Mirror domains are up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34350792)

It's available on Torrent-Finder.info ( 208.101.51.56 ) as well

Immigration and Customs Enforcement!? (1)

Spazmania (174582) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350796)

What possible basis could Immigration and Customs Enforcement have for seizing a domain name associated with bit torrent? I can see a dozen ways the USG could reasonably go after a bit torrent tracker, but this one just doesn't make sense.

Re:Immigration and Customs Enforcement!? (1)

Rockoon (1252108) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350816)

Wait till someone tells them that you can find Torrents with Google.

Re:Immigration and Customs Enforcement!? (2, Interesting)

bkmoore (1910118) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350828)

They won't block google because google has made political donations and has some lawyers, probably not as many as Oracle, but enough.

Re:Immigration and Customs Enforcement!? (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350830)

What possible basis could Immigration and Customs Enforcement have for seizing a domain name associated with bit torrent?

Customs is responsible for enforcing bringing illegal goods into the US as I recall. A torrent of a movie with a US copyright has now been categorized as this -- at least, that's my guess.

In short, the US government is now an enforcement arm of the RIAA/MPAA cartels, and they're forcing treaties on almost everybody else to make sure that this can now happen worldwide. Basically, the internet is now under the control of multi-national corporations.

Durr hurr (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34350800)

> "Not only does the site not host or even link to any torrents whatsoever, it actually only returns searches through embedded iframes which display other sites that are not under the control of the Torrent-Finder owner."

When is the nerd class collectively going to get over its spergtastic fantasy that the technical letter of the law is far more important than its intent? (For that matter, how is an iframe not a link, or even opening an iframe showing one not 'providing' it?) This kind of blatant attempt at an end run is the IT equivalent of "I didn't kill him, your Honor, bleeding out killed him" and serves as nothing more than a tacit admission of guilt to anyone who doesn't spend their evenings and weekends fighting holy wars over technical minutiae.

Then again, it's not even relevant in this case, as it appears to be a mass seizure of property held by a group which imports counterfeit goods.

Re:Durr hurr (3, Insightful)

phyrexianshaw.ca (1265320) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350874)

In your analogy, it would be like saying:

"I didn't kill him your honor: all I did was point out who did."

posting a link to other content is not in any way analogous to killing someone. hell, in this case it helped the copyright police FIND the infringers.

to me, this is like taking a Private Investigator to court for "not reporting a crime before it had sufficient evidence to even know what was going on was a crime."

Re:Durr hurr (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34351014)

Whoever said there's a direct analogy between the crimes, or even that both should be crimes? Just pointing out that in the eyes of anyone who's left their basement this year they're equally lame attempts to excuse oneself by pretending causality doesn't exist.

Re:Durr hurr (0)

Sepodati (746220) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351238)

Stop with the stupid analogies. Just stop helping people infringe on copyrights, especially as your primary purpose in life.

Collecting IP addresses... (5, Interesting)

Low Ranked Craig (1327799) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350810)

Also note that they are also collecting IP address information of people who visit the site...

try { var piwikTracker = Piwik.getTracker(pkBaseURL + "piwik.php", 1); piwikTracker.trackPageView(); piwikTracker.enableLinkTracking(); } catch( err ) {}

They also have google analytics turned on - UA-19806388-1

Re:Collecting IP addresses... (1)

phyrexianshaw.ca (1265320) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350884)

well, good thing I always connect to sketchy sites via a set of proxies with a sandbox virtual machine! :P

Re:Collecting IP addresses... (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350920)

Well of cousre they are, as only criminals would go there. I wonder if that will be considered 'intent to defraud' and be enough for a search warrant of your home?

Also, why is ICE involved? I would not think that would be the appropriate agency?

Re:Collecting IP addresses... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34351230)

they don't care what it is, ice intellectual properties dhs and any other gov't agency wants in to share the credit. They would refuse other groups participation to avoid sharing credit but then that group would refuse all their requests. I'm just surprised that DEA and many more aren't involved. Also on their reports and statistics at the end of the reporting period they will claim they 'helped' in the seizure of $x assets fines and years in prison, not in proportion to their amount of help but all of it that resulted from even the shortest phone call.

Re:Collecting IP addresses... (3, Informative)

FooAtWFU (699187) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351004)

I have some bad news for you. You don't actually need JavaScript trackers to collect IP addresses of visitors to your website. It happens automatically, really.

Re:Collecting IP addresses... (1)

Spad (470073) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351248)

Your computer is currently broadcasting an IP address! With this address, someone can immediately begin hacking your system!

Re:Collecting IP addresses... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34351016)

So, they will get the IP address of everyone who ever reads the news and goes to the site to check it out. What are they going to do, send me flowers for St. Valentine? This is literally the first time in my life I visited that domain. It's not a crime to visit a website [cnet.com] .

The curious thing is that they are using client side scripts to harvest IPs. Perhaps they are trying to harvest IPs through proxies and other obfuscating services. I'm pretty sure my IP is personal information which I am not willingly sharing if I were to use proxy. I wonder what US privacy laws have to say about that. I'm pretty sure identifying me when I clearly intended not to be identified is a crime where I live.

we need more liberal control (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34350824)

If only we had a powerful idealogical liberal/progressive government in control, we could halt this wave of warrentless searches and seisures....

O wait... meet the new boss... I forgot.

Re:we need more liberal control (4, Insightful)

windcask (1795642) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350960)

Wake up, man. The rights of the individual are not a partisan issue. Progressives will stand behind you if you want to shit on the Bible or burn the flag, sure, but they'll be the first to sign a bill to keep you from smoking or eating French Fries.

So how does this relate? Neither side really cares about individual rights except when it relates to their talking points or agenda, so don't expect either to be free of the influence of the entertainment industry.

Caiman islands anyone? (1)

Drakkenmensch (1255800) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350832)

Expect all domain name providers to move there REAL soon.

If you want to torrent.... (3, Informative)

3seas (184403) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350842)

just put "legal" in the name.
try legal torrents in google..

But dude... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34350848)

You're a pirate, and we all know that pirates are bad people. See, we even got these laws here that say that pirates are exempt from all due process. The government can do anything it wants to, and no one can cry foul.

What a bunch of outright crap. To hell with ICANN for allowing this nonsense.

You know... (4, Interesting)

windcask (1795642) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350876)

Usually, I try to find the opposite side of the story and see things from the perspective of the people who are making and enforcing these laws to protect our country and our people's interests.

I got nothing. This is unadulterated bullshit. This basically says that the interests of the music and movie industries are put up on such a high pedestal in this country that they can and will circumvent due process when it suits them.

DAMN YOU GEORGE BUSH!!! (5, Insightful)

Vinegar Joe (998110) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350882)

I can't wait for Obama to be inaugurated!

Re:DAMN YOU GEORGE BUSH!!! (1)

Excelcior (1390167) | more than 3 years ago | (#34350948)

Somebody, mod this up!

Re:DAMN YOU GEORGE BUSH!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34351152)

Everybody, mod this down?

the US government is a disgrace (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34350906)

If only we could have gotten this action against REAL problems, like BP and its still-ongoing toxic experiment in the Gulf of Mexico. Copyright violation never caused internal hemorrhage or destruction of the food chain.

If this isn't a hoax... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34350940)

...then it's rather clear that the U.S. gov't is taking advantage of ICANN's incestuous relationship with their benefactor, the U.S. Dept. of Commerce.

Now's the time to seriously start looking at alternative DNS frameworks [opennicproject.org] that aren't whored out to ICANN.

Warning would be nice. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34350962)

Here's an idea, how about warning us that said site also has tracking scripts on it to log visitors IP address before plastering it on Slashdot where we're obviously going to visit it?

Re:Warning would be nice. (1)

Andrewkov (140579) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351092)

Dude, all web servers log all visitors IP addresses by default.

And so it has begun (2)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351008)

Sigh.

Freedom -1. Government +10.

Re:And so it has begun (1)

thijsh (910751) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351096)

Freedom -1, People -1, Government -1, Corporations +10, Rich +$$$

How many people still have faith in the government? They are also losing because of this kind of shenanigans...

Call In This Suspicious Activity (1)

anguirus.x (1463871) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351036)

Report Suspicious Activity To report suspicious activity, call ICE toll-free at 1-866-DHS-2ICE. I find it very suspicious that someone is using ICE logos and seals for something that concerns them not at all. If someone is illegally making use of their seals I think they want to know about it. We ought all to call in and report this suspicious activity.

Re:Call In This Suspicious Activity (1)

anguirus.x (1463871) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351112)

I've also called in to ICE through their media inquiries channel. I hope to gain some more information regarding the scope of their operating here and their motivations for doing so.

Hoax? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34351038)

This wreaks of hoax.

Whois information points to dns servers in Scottsdale, AZ, which just so happens to be where GoDaddy is. I checked the whois of the dns servers (domaincontrol.com) and it has the same contact information as godaddy.com. If the DNS servers are owned by godaddy, why would they not be aware of what's going on?

Tracing the address, I am lead not to a government datacenter, but to a commercial one called CaroNet Hosting. I guess whoever investigates torrent sites could be using a private corporation for their business, but I would assume they would be more transparent with query information.

I'm more strongly to believe either the dns was hijacked by someone else or this is a hoax perpetrated by the owners to get in the news.

Re:Hoax? (1)

rickb928 (945187) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351072)

The WHOIS I see:

Domain Name: TORRENT-FINDER.COM
      Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
      Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
      Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com/ [godaddy.com]
      Name Server: NS1.SEIZEDSERVERS.COM
      Name Server: NS2.SEIZEDSERVERS.COM

Go look up SEIZEDSERVERS.COM. The owner has contracts with DHS.

Well, how's W looking to you now?

Re:Hoax? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34351140)

Well maybe they are doing something weird with the domain or it's propogating oddly.

Registrant:
      Torrent Finder
      15 Alexandria St.
      N/A
      Alexandria, 55555
      Egypt

      Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
      Domain Name: TORRENT-FINDER.COM
            Created on: 30-Dec-05
            Expires on: 30-Dec-11
            Last Updated on: 04-Oct-10

      Administrative Contact:
            Gadelkareem, Waleed kurtubba@gmail.com
            Torrent Finder
            N/A
            N/A
            Alexandria, 55555
            Egypt
            20121578967 Fax -- 2034411838

      Technical Contact:
            Gadelkareem, Waleed kurtubba@gmail.com
            Torrent Finder
            N/A
            N/A
            Alexandria, 55555
            Egypt
            20121578967 Fax -- 2034411838

      Domain servers in listed order:
            NS51.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
            NS52.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

EXIF Info (3, Informative)

bruns (75399) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351192)

Out of curiosity, has anyone bothered to look at the EXIF information in the big image that was posted?

Camera Software: Adobe Photoshop CS5 Macintosh
Image Created: 2010:11:18 09:37:21

Xmp m m history:
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Photoshop text layers:
<rdf:Bag><rdf:li photoshop:LayerName="This domain name has been seized by ICE - Homeland Security Inv" photoshop:LayerText="This domain name has been seized by ICE - Homeland Security Investigations, pursuant to a seizure warrant issued by a United States District Court under the authority of 18 U.S.C. 981 and 2323. Willful copyright infringement is a federal crime that carries penalties for first time offenders of up to five years in federal prison, a $250,000 fine, forfeiture and restitution (17 U.S.C 506, 18 U.S.C. 2319). Intentionally and knowingly trafficking in counterfeit goods is a federal crime that carries penalties for first time offenders of up to ten years in federal prison, a $2,000,000 fine, forfeiture and restitution (18 U.S.C. 2320)."></rdf:li></rdf:Bag>

Photoshop document ancestors: adobe:docid:photoshop:48e1c40a-d380-11df-b51a-eeb855fff641
uuid:86BA931467F6DC1181C0B7AB960443B0
xmp.did:E8B2985F047FDF11B5C6CC672C2C4CBE

Draw your own conclusions. :)

Looks shopped... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34351242)

What was the question again?

Re:EXIF Info (1)

bruns (75399) | more than 3 years ago | (#34351250)

Also, if you check the HTML code, you'll see references to 74.81.170.107, specifically https://74.81.170.107/xxxxxx [74.81.170.107] . Take a peek at the security certificate it hands out (expired in 2006).

It seems to try and use piwik AND google analytics to track visits. It just seems _really_ shoddy and i'm leaning more towards this as a publicity stunt perhaps.

I wouldn't trust GoDaddy either - they will lie to save their own asses and bottom line.

Re:EXIF Info (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34351254)

I'm sorry, was there any useful information in the EXIF data?

WikiLeaks connection? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34351218)

Isn't WikiLeaks supposed to be releasing another chunk of data today.... this could just be an attempt to stem the spread of that data via torrents/peer-to-peer.

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  • ol
  • ul
  • li
  • dl
  • dt
  • dd
  • em
  • strong
  • tt
  • blockquote
  • div
  • quote
  • ecode

"ecode" can be used for code snippets, for example:

<ecode>    while(1) { do_something(); } </ecode>