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Empire Strikes Back Director Irvin Kershner Dies at 87

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the they-come-in-threes dept.

Star Wars Prequels 132

bigredradio writes "Empire Strikes Back director Irvin Kershner died at his home in Paris after suffering from illness, his goddaughter Adriana Santini confirmed to the AFP Monday. He was 87."

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Sad day (5, Insightful)

Bobnova (1435535) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375526)

A sad day, that was the best movie of the series IMO. Too bad he didn't do more of them.

Re:Sad day (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34375564)

O_O these things always come in threes.

wonder who's next

Re:Sad day (3, Funny)

u17 (1730558) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375930)

O_O these things always come in threes. wonder who's next

It's the mice. Their reversed aging is sucking the life out of humans!

Re:Sad day (1)

TheLink (130905) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376528)

Surely it's not series.

Re:Sad day (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375576)

They always go in threes. First LN, now IK. Who's #3?

Re:Sad day (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34375612)

Justin Bieber?

Re:Sad day (3, Funny)

FatdogHaiku (978357) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376070)

They always go in threes. First LN, now IK. Who's #3?

Justin Bieber?

Based on historical evidence, we as a planet do not have that kind of luck...

Re:Sad day (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375642)

They always go in threes. First LN, now IK. Who's #3?

Are you volunteering? Sorry, dude, my badge says #6.

Re:Sad day (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375840)

I'm neither famous nor in the film making business.

Re:Sad day (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34376660)

you're famous to us McGrew.

Re:Sad day (1)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376072)

I am not a number! I am a free man!

Re:Sad day (1)

hal2814 (725639) | more than 3 years ago | (#34378066)

Oh wait, here it is: Number 5. In your face, Number 6!

Re:Sad day (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34377450)

If you're Number 6, you're already dead [telegraph.co.uk]

Re:Sad day (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34375652)

I would hope George Lucas... but its too late. He already made the prequels.

Re:Sad day (2, Funny)

ebuck (585470) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376298)

Maybe he can go before he decides to redo the series again. Next time hell probably adding yoda and storm trooper teletubbies, and Han won't shoot at all, the bartender will intercede.

Re:Sad day (1)

Niris (1443675) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376556)

I remember when the prequels were coming out there was talk of him doing an episode 7-9 series. Can always hope he gets taken out before that ever happens.

Re:Sad day (4, Interesting)

EricTheRed (5613) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375690)

They always go in threes. First LN, now IK. Who's #3?

Sir Maurice Wilkes - one of the early programming pioneers of the 1940's?

From The National Museum Of Computing, Bletchley Park twitter feed: http://twitter.com/#!/tnmoc/status/9283716039843841 [twitter.com]

Sad news that today Sir Maurice Wilkes passed away, aged 97. Here he was on a visit last year to #TNMOC http://ow.ly/3gUD2 [ow.ly]

Re:Sad day (2, Insightful)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375854)

You should submiut that as a /. front page story. Far more relevant than Nielson's death.

Re:Sad day (1)

EricTheRed (5613) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376232)

I should have and just have.

Re:Sad day (1)

skine (1524819) | more than 3 years ago | (#34378260)

Did you make sure it was poorly worded, and that is contained small technical errors and misrepresentations of the article?

Otherwise, it will never make the front page.

Re:Sad day (0, Troll)

loafula (1080631) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375960)

Leonard Nimoy..

Re:Sad day (2, Insightful)

gustgr (695173) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376570)

You, sir, have gone too far. You take that back, and take it now.

Re:Sad day (1)

MasterPatricko (1414887) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376826)

Sad news. I'll miss seeing him around the CL. Odd that the University hasn't said anything yet. #RIP mvw1

Sad news? (2, Insightful)

Burning1 (204959) | more than 3 years ago | (#34378054)

Sad news that today Sir Maurice Wilkes passed away, aged 97

We're talking about a pioneer who accomplished a lot in his life, and lived to the age of 97, right? While I'm sure no one's happy to see him go, I can't possibly imagine how this is sad news.

Sounds like he lived life the way it was meant to be lived. Celebrate that.

Re:Sad day (1)

multipartmixed (163409) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376120)

I'm rooting for Steve Ballmer.

Stephen King?? (3, Funny)

mfnickster (182520) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376272)

Stephen King, dead at 63

I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Horror/Sci Fi writer Stephen King was found dead in his Maine home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon.

glad the old ways are not entirely forgotten! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34376402)

informative and posted logged in, kudos, sir!

Re:Stephen King?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34376604)

I still laugh my ass off when I see these.

eom

Re:Stephen King?? (2, Funny)

danieltdp (1287734) | more than 3 years ago | (#34377322)

Is it true? Can't find any news on internet about it.

Re:Stephen King?? (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 3 years ago | (#34377632)

I stopped reading King after Sphere. The guy writes (wrote?) way too well. He's the only writer I've ever read that gave me nightmares.

Re:Stephen King?? (1)

corbettw (214229) | more than 3 years ago | (#34377648)

That was just an early rumor based on a report that someone had died at Stephen King's home. In reality, it was veteran actor Abe Vigoda, who was an old family friend of King's and was visiting for Thanksgiving.

Re:Sad day (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34376384)

Dino De Laurentiis

Re:Sad day (1)

paimin (656338) | more than 3 years ago | (#34377046)

Peter Christopherson (of Throbbing Gristle, Psychic TV, and Coil fame, and electronic music innovator) just died [factmag.com] as well.

Re:Sad day (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34377778)

Leonard Nimoy died???

Re:Sad day (1)

JeffSpudrinski (1310127) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375600)

Indeed. While they are all very cool, SW:TESB was, by far, the best of the lot. Lucas is good (well...okay at it, anyway) and they are all enjoyable to a certain degree, Episode 5 is the one I revisit most often.

-JJS

Re:Sad day (1)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375718)

I notice that these kinds of comments haven't spurred the massive debate (yet) that usually comes with them. Is it that those who disagree are staying silent out of respect for the recently deceased?

Re:Sad day (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375848)

Most of those who view any of the other SW movies probably died due to oxygen deprivation because their brains were too small to adequately manage autonomic biological processes.

Re:Sad day (1)

D Ninja (825055) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375874)

Is it that those who disagree are staying silent out of respect for the recently deceased?

Ha. Hahahaha. HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA.

Whew. Haha...heh...oooo boy. That was...:: chuckle ::...a good one. Haha.

Re:Sad day (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#34377782)

I think you would be hard-pressed to find anyone above the age of ten who would publicly admit to liking any other Star Wars movie better than Empire.

Re:Sad day (2, Insightful)

catbutt (469582) | more than 3 years ago | (#34377526)

As much as I wince at some of the worst scenes throughout the prequels, it always saddens me to see people slam on Lucas so much. Kirschner did a fine job directing ESB, but come on....Lucas is the visionary behind the whole thing and deserves a lot of credit for the amazingly rich world he built.

Re:Sad day (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375608)

I think the first movie ("Episode IV") was the best movie, but Kershner was the best director. The first movie was a bigger and more intense one, a true epic. The sequel was harder, though, like most sequels, and was directed by someone who wasn't the overall visionary - someone who hadn't thought up the movie for his entire life beforehand. The excellence of the directing in The Empire Strikes Back can be seen easily in contrast to the The Return of the Jedi and the next three, all of which are sequels. So while I like Star Wars the best, it's not because its directing was better.

If Lucas gets someone else to direct the next Star Wars movies, he might possibly find someone as good as Kershner was, but he's got an even better chance of finding someone better than Lucas was.

Re:Sad day (3, Insightful)

ultranova (717540) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375696)

The sequel was harder, though, like most sequels, and was directed by someone who wasn't the overall visionary - someone who hadn't thought up the movie for his entire life beforehand.

Which is precisely why Empire Strikes Back ended up better: it's far easier to see and correct the flaws in someone else's vision than your own. That's why editors exist.

Re:Sad day (1)

onkelonkel (560274) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376024)

Good Point! Think how good Slashdot would be if they had editors.

Re:Sad day (1)

Rhaban (987410) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375774)

If Lucas gets someone else to direct the next Star Wars movies, he might possibly find someone as good as Kershner was, but he's got an even better chance of finding someone better than Lucas was.

Future star wars movies could use a better director than Lucas, but what is really needed is that they find a better writer than Lucas. It should not be too difficult.

Re:Sad day (2, Interesting)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375796)

Honestly, I think Brian Singer has a hard-on for 70's sci-fi and could make new Star Wars films that look and feel like the original trilogy.

The prequels look too clean and modern in contrast.

Last I heard, Singer walked away from Logan's Run and wanted to do a new reboot on Battlestar Galactica, ignoring the new SyFy iteration, and stay closer to the original series.

You could set a new trilogy 20-30 years in the future with Luke as the old master now. Harrison Ford has repeatedly said he would never go back to Star Wars, but I think you might talk him into a single scene cameo that explains why he is largely out of the picture.

If you got Timothy Zahn to work with Lucas on stories/scripts, I think the fans would buy in.

Re:Sad day (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375946)

Frankly, I think we're going to have to wait for Lucas to kick the bucket, and then his heirs will, in the interests of maximizing profit, find someone more suitable. By then, I'll wager most of the original cast will be too old or dead, so you'll have to move to new characters.

I think having Mark Hamil come back as Luke Skywalker, in a sort of Yoda position, would be cool. I can't see Ford returning, though. I'm not sure it would be necessary. You could always reference his death somehow.

Re:Sad day (1)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376034)

The problem is that Lucas likes the paychecks he is getting from all the Star Wars novels he insists are canon (except when they aren't) and they have written 40+ years out I think at this point. The main characters (save for Chewbacca) are still alive. If he made new movies where Han had died, then his entire line of novels goes out the window, and all the revenue that comes from them.

He could do it, but it would be stupid.

I think his best bet would be to work with Zahn (who has made the most popular and best selling novels, and has a close relationship with Lucas) to write a sequel trilogy that doesn't entirely piss in the face of the novel continuity. If he took characters and plot points from the novels, and perhaps just skewed the time frame, then I think people could live with that. Take Zahn's 5 book series that follows Return of the Jedi, and just push it out 20 years, and tweak it.

Those books are amazing, and feel like a natural extension to the classic trilogy. It would make bank.

Re:Sad day (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376430)

I'd suggest a new Starlost, but Harlan Ellison would probably sue anyone involved with that.

Re:Sad day (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#34377858)

If you worried about Harlan Ellison suing, you would never get any science fiction movie made. He thinks he came up with *everything* first. Of course, he also thinks he's not a mediocre, overrated hack. Wrong on both counts.

Re:Sad day (2, Insightful)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375860)

Episode V was the best because Lucas was as far from the process as possible. Lucas may be a visionary, but he also has the extraordinary tendency to poison that vision.

I can only imagine how good Episode III would have been if someone like Kirshner had been driving the car.

Re:Sad day (1)

superdave80 (1226592) | more than 3 years ago | (#34377400)

Sad to lose the director of my favorite movie of all time (not just SW movie). I know that most wouldn't put it that high on their list, but it shined far above all the other movies in the best trilogy ever.... and I'm a bit of a SW nut :-)

Re:Sad day (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#34377676)

As has been observed many times, Empire is the only one that felt truly mature and aimed at grown-ups. It's also the one Lucas had the LEAST to do with (no coincidence there, IMO). He should have been allowed to do Return. Maybe there would have been more of Luke and Vader, less of the teddy bears.

May the Force... (2, Interesting)

lag10 (667114) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375528)

be with him.

Re:May the Force... (2, Funny)

TED Vinson (576153) | more than 3 years ago | (#34377204)

Lucasfilm has announced the December release of a 'new director's cut' of The Empire Strikes Back in which Mr. Kirshner will make a cameo appearance as a 'Force ghost' to honor his contribution. This is the perfect, must-have gift for Star Wars fans everywhere.

Lucasfim has also announced the January 2011 release of a 'special, revised director's cut' of The Empire Strikes Back in which the Kirchner Force ghost will be played by Hayden Christensen...

Re:May the Force... (1)

arkane1234 (457605) | more than 3 years ago | (#34378140)

Why isn't this modded Funny yet?

I hope that this experience (4, Insightful)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375532)

Will make him more powerful than ever.

Re:I hope that this experience (1)

A. B3ttik (1344591) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375658)

No, they're going to freeze him in Carbonite.

Re:I hope that this experience (1)

Arancaytar (966377) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375724)

More powerful than we can possibly imagine, even.

blah blah (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34375568)

blah blah blah, star wars... who cares..

I felt a great disturbance in the Force (2, Interesting)

tedgyz (515156) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375580)

as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

Gee, that's what I felt when Oracle bought Sun (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375742)

as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

The someone to OpenOffice, "Use the fork, Luke. Use the fork."

Re:I felt a great disturbance in the Force (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#34377074)

Wrong movie. A more appropriate quote would be: "I love you." "I know."

He's bene encased in carbonite (1)

Spy Handler (822350) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375584)

indefinitely...

i guess... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34375594)

he didn't shoot first.

NOOO!!!! (1)

masmullin (1479239) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375606)

NOOO!!!!!

In all seriousness though, RIP Mr Kershner. May the force be with you.

Re:NOOO!!!! (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375800)

more accurately:

Do not want

RIP (1)

Uthic (931553) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375618)

Condolences to his family (well ok, not that they'll read this). Sad that I have no idea what else he did besides TESB.

Re:RIP (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375790)

Sad that I have no idea what else he did besides TESB.

Filmography
Stakeout on Dope Street (1958)
The Young Captives (1959)
Face in the Rain (1963)
The Luck of Ginger Coffey (1964)
A Fine Madness (1966)
The Flim-Flam Man (1967)
Loving (1970)
Up the Sandbox (1972)
S*P*Y*S (1974)
The Return of a Man Called Horse (1976)
Raid on Entebbe (1977)
Eyes of Laura Mars (1978)
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
Never Say Never Again (1983)
The Last Temptation of Christ (actor) (1988)
RoboCop 2 (1990)
SeaQuest DSV (TV series) (1993)

Wikipedia is your friend. [wikipedia.org]

Re:RIP (4, Funny)

imakemusic (1164993) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375998)

Wikipedia is your friend.

Some friend! It keeps asking me for money!

Marathon Needed (1)

sunking2 (521698) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375662)

Sounds like a good opportunity for Spike to get one more in before the end of the year.

Re:Marathon Needed (1)

hesiod (111176) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376304)

Like the one that played... yesterday?

Prefer to believe... (1)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375716)

I prefer to believe he is merely frozen in carbonite.

That being said, I recall the AFI Tribute to George Lucas, where Lucas openly admitted he couldn't write dialog. And Harrison Ford blasted him for writing dialog. Lucas is very good at coming up with a basic story and innovating at effects. But he isn't great at getting acting performances from actors, nor writing dialog. He knew he had these limitations, and thusly he allowed others to write the scripts and direct on Empire and Return of the Jedi.

So why exactly did he demand to write and direct the prequels? Wouldn't you want to put the best product forward and work around your personal limitations?

Read below (1)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376800)

Kershner wasn't available. And the pressures on George Lucas were very different. The original was made pretty much as a self-financed project with the powers that be thinking "meh, if he fails it is his money, if he succeeds, we got a nice flick out of it that sells a few tickets to the kids".

And then Star Wars happened. And he got pretty much a green light on the 2 sequels because NOBODY understood just what the fuck had happened.

Many people don't understand anymore just what effect Star Wars had. The world, of entertainment at least, was shattered and it tooks years, no decades before the rest of the world recovered. We haven't had a movie on the scale of Star Wars until the Lotro trilogy. Pure escapist a thrill a minute fantasy ride. It just wasn't done back then and nobody understood just how a simple movie that is at best a bland copy of ancient stories often told better did so amazingly well.

The HYPE for the pre-quels was insane. Only Peter Jackson can begin to understand the pressure to deliver anything close and he at least had the advantage that he was doing something new to him. If he failed, people would just say that he failed because he sucked. Not that he had once succeeded and then failed. Never being a genuis is far easier then being an ex-genius.

And Lucas was pegged in, there are things you can't do anymore. The actors from A New Hope were relatively unknown. Yes yes, Alec Guinness was known. Okay, but from WHAT exactly? Could he pull the same with the new movies or did he have to get some known names because that is the way you make triple A titles?

Could he get away with dwarves in silly costumes and a very simple camera trick to transport us to an alien planet (the two suns, a classic piece of cinematography). No, been there, seen that. The audience expected more.

George Lucas was set an impossible task. A story that was nothing more then a couple of words in an 20 year old script to explain some backgrounds of two dimensional characters. And an audience used to full CGI wonder lands expecting the same mystique as the first movie to truly transport us to an alien civilization we had visited over and over again.

Yes, he screwed up and he screwed up big time. But my god, so did everyone around him. The actors SURELY could have acted better. Why couldn't any of the newbies pull an Alec Guinnes or Harrison Ford? Why did none of his helpers pull the movie up like his wife and others had done with the originals?

The original three movies are a coincedence, a happy cojuction of the right people meeting at the right time with the right frame of mind. The pre-quels are the example of a product designed by a commitee were nobody dares to upset the chairman.

Re:Read below (1)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376982)

That's the point. Princess Leia may not have been a committee, but George Lucas is, by himself. He has the ego of an auteur and wants 100% control. He didn't want a studio offering input. He didn't want anyone to question him.

But from day to day he doesn't seem to know what he wants.

A New Hope started as a Dune rip-off. And it was a single movie, except when it was going to be 6, 9 or 12 movies. And the Jedi where the Whills, and they used spice on a twin-sun desert planet where a fat human villian controlled the spice-trade, that was produced by worm-like Krayt Dragons.

And Lucas insists for 25 years that Star Wars is a larger story about Luke Skywalker (who originally was an older General Skywalker until he split into the two characters of Obi Wan and Luke) bringing the Jedi Order back. Except now Lucas maintains the series was always about Anakin's rise, fall and redemption.

Just like Ric Olie was going to be a major character in the prequels, along with Aura Sing, until they disappeared. And the prequels were going to explain Force Ghosts in 2 and 3, because it was so important to the overall plot. And Syfodius was critically important until he disappeared. And so were the Lost 20.

I respect Lucas kick-starting a universe I love so much, but he really has no idea what he is doing from day to day. And if he truly wanted Star Wars to succeed, he needed to let go a little bit and trust others to write scripts and direct the movies.

What was lost in the whole shuffle is that Lucas did excel in what he does best. He continued to innovate by pushing the bar on new standards in sound and CGI (though Episode I really had mixed CGI, some incredible and some really terrible).

Coincidence? (2, Interesting)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375792)

I just added Forbidden Planet to my Netflix queue, and noticed Empire was one of the "more like this...." features. Spooky. Was this because it also featured the work of a just-deceased person? Or did God just order up the same movie, and decided that he wanted "more like this" and took Kershner too? If it's the latter, then Bill Shatner and/or Leondard Nimoy may be in trouble, because The Search for Spock was suggested next to Empire; and Rod Taylor of the 1960 The Time Machine (also suggested to me) is getting on in years, and might want to be extra careful for a while as well.

Re:Coincidence? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34375908)

Don't even say that. What's wrong with you?

Re:Coincidence? (1)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 3 years ago | (#34377824)

I'm not superstitiously irrational.

Re:Coincidence (1)

mikaelwbergene (1944966) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376336)

Or more likely: People have gotten word of both deaths and Netflix (automatically) noticed that people who got the first movie also got the second and thereby suggested it to you.

Just a case of a simple program doing what it's programmed to do and accidentally appearing creepy.

Re:Coincidence (1)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376586)

Or it just suggested them both because they are both science fiction.

Despite Netflix actually having a suggestion algorithm contest, it still seems really, really simple and basic.

Re:Coincidence? (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 3 years ago | (#34378144)

I just added Forbidden Planet to my Netflix queue, and noticed Empire was one of the "more like this...." features. Spooky. Was this because it also featured the work of a just-deceased person? Or did God just order up the same movie, and decided that he wanted "more like this" and took Kershner too? If it's the latter, then Bill Shatner and/or Leondard Nimoy may be in trouble, because The Search for Spock was suggested next to Empire; and Rod Taylor of the 1960 The Time Machine (also suggested to me) is getting on in years, and might want to be extra careful for a while as well.

In Heaven, there is a real Star Wars I being filmed with Leslie Nielson voice acting a droid and directed by Kershner. Jim Henson is doing the alien work.

and NSNA (2, Informative)

Srsen (413456) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375920)

He also directed the understated and underrated (IMO) Never Say Never Again [imdb.com] .

Re:and NSNA (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#34375984)

That was a great Bond film, much better than the trash that Moore was puking at at that point. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Connery was Bond, and even playing a middle-aged Bond he was still far better than Moore.

Re:and NSNA (1)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376584)

No.

Connery's greatest role was, is, and always will be Zed .
That Bond role will be merely a footnote to his true greatness.

Re:and NSNA (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376812)

Between Zardoz and 2001: A Space Odyssey, I assume LSD was mandatory for making and watching Sci-Fi of that era.

It figures... (1)

Lilith's Heart-shape (1224784) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376144)

It just figures that the one Star Wars movie that didn't suck harder than Miley Cyrus while getting her first record contract was the one that George Lucas didn't direct. Too bad Lucas had to direct the others.

Re:It figures... (1)

Jonner (189691) | more than 3 years ago | (#34377924)

Lucas didn't direct "Return of the Jedi" either: it was Richard Marquand. According to Lucas, he didn't have time to direct either episode 5 or 6. IMHO, those were the two best because Lucas didn't direct them as well as the fact that Lawrence Kasdan was involved in the writing. What Lucas doesn't explain is why he had time to write and direct the prequels by himself, as they seem to have been much bigger, more complex productions. It seems to me that when he realized his limitations and collaborated with better writers and directors, he obtained the best results, but when he decided he could do it all himself, things went downhill.

Celebrity Death Watch! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34376176)

Who will be number 3?

One of the last guys to tell George to stuff it... (4, Interesting)

GPLDAN (732269) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376302)

Solid article on Kershner and his push-pull relationship with Lucas:


http://www.salon.com/entertainment/col/srag/1999/05/13/kershner [salon.com]

Kershner was too ill to accept Lucas' offer to direct Phantom Menace. One wonders what his sensibilities for human drama and actual tension would have done to that cartoon.

Re:One of the last guys to tell George to stuff it (1)

Cornwallis (1188489) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376926)

One wonders what his sensibilities for human drama and actual tension would have done to that cartoon.

Yeah - we're really going to miss Ewoks "emoting".

Re:One of the last guys to tell George to stuff it (1)

norminator (784674) | more than 3 years ago | (#34377208)

The Ewoks were only in Return of the Jedi, and he didn't direct that one.

Re:One of the last guys to tell George to stuff it (1)

GPLDAN (732269) | more than 3 years ago | (#34377320)

He specifically turned Lucas down after reading the ROTJ script, saying "he didn't believe it."

So thanks for helping me make my point.

Nerds having a cat fight :( (1)

jonaskoelker (922170) | more than 3 years ago | (#34377748)

So thanks for helping me make my point.

One of the makers of nerd culture has passed away, and already we have people fighting.

I have a bad feeling about this...

Re:One of the last guys to tell George to stuff it (1)

danieltdp (1287734) | more than 3 years ago | (#34377376)

And they were Lucas idea, of course.

I'm sad (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376466)

I'm sad to see a great man passing. I don't think he got enough credit for directing the best of the Star Wars series. Rest in peace.

RIP (1)

Marthis (1949724) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376628)

ESB was the best of all the SW movies, IMO

Entertainment (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 3 years ago | (#34376772)

Am I the only one that had to double-take because of the "Entertainment:" prefix on the title?

Mod me redundant if you must but... (0, Redundant)

Slutticus (1237534) | more than 3 years ago | (#34377140)

RIP

May the Force be with you

'twas the best movie of the three by far

A great disturbance in the Force as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

AND

Wish he had made more

come on, Woody, don't let me down (1, Funny)

corbettw (214229) | more than 3 years ago | (#34377780)

My death pool is doing really well this year. If Woody Allen would just join Messers. Kershner and Nielsen I'll pocket $1000.

Come on, Woody, give in to the ennui! I hear Heaven is a lot like Manhattan!

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