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DDoS Attack On Wikileaks Increasing

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the that's-a-lot-of-bits dept.

Crime 919

tetrahedrassface writes "According to the Twitter feed for Wikileaks, the attack on the controversial site is increasing and is now at 10 Gigabits per second. In light of the recent release of highly sensitive documents and calls by many lawmakers around the world to swiftly find, extradite, and try suspected rapist Julius Assange for breaches of national security, one nation, Ecuador, has offered asylum."

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If you didn't do anything wrong, (4, Insightful)

Ismellpoop (1949100) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388454)

then you have nothing to hide.
At least isn't that what the government tells us?

Re:If you didn't do anything wrong, (5, Funny)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388662)

At least isn't that what the government tells us?

The government also tells you to hide under your desk in the event of a nuclear attack.

Re:If you didn't do anything wrong, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34388746)

Duck and cover.

Re:If you didn't do anything wrong, (1)

countertrolling (1585477) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388750)

Well, if it's made out of lead, you should be safe, right? Desks are amazing. They also protect you from tornadoes. Of course that was back in the 60s. These new wimpy ones will crumple if you drop your pencil.

Re:If you didn't do anything wrong, (1)

paiute (550198) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388912)

Well, if it's made out of lead, you should be safe, right? Desks are amazing. They also protect you from tornadoes. Of course that was back in the 60s. These new wimpy ones will crumple if you drop your pencil.

Hell with that. I'm getting in the old Frigidaire.

Re:If you didn't do anything wrong, (1)

Barrinmw (1791848) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388772)

Which makes sense if you are on the outskirts of the blast radius because the flying debris is more dangerous than anything else at that moment.

Re:If you didn't do anything wrong, (2, Insightful)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388800)

That depends, you also need to not share the name of someone who did something wrong. Otherwise you may end up on a no-fly list, or kidnapped from your country and taken to Afghanistan for torture.

Re:If you didn't do anything wrong, (4, Insightful)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388810)

At least isn't that what the government tells us?

Right, because you don't have any embarrassing secrets. You don't tell friends things in confidence.

Thanks to this leak (and to the idiotic flubbing of security in the first place), it will be at least a little bit harder for American diplomats to make friends who will tell them things in confidence.

Ut Oh! (5, Funny)

PORNorART (1949708) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388478)

/. is in trouble now for leaking the US's inability to conduct a succesful DDoS campaign.

Re:Ut Oh! (2, Interesting)

GrumblyStuff (870046) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388542)

Are they doing it? Have they announced where the majority of the attacks are coming from or is like a /. effect?

(They can't lose! Either they're being attacked for revealing the truth and/or they're super popular!)

Re:Ut Oh! (2, Insightful)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388660)

A DDoS is more than a simple /. effect.

Only when your servers are not designed for massive amounts of traffic at a time will you be harmed by the slashdot effect. Usually it happens on /. because we link to some university Website, who is only used to maybe a couple thousand students and not millions of internet viewers.

Wikileaks is in the business of being read by as many people as possible - You'll notice Wikileaks is still UP during all this. This suggests they expected this kind of stuff and likely they have a sophisticated firewall capable of blocking DoS attacks and seperating the legit requests from the bad.

It's not just a popularity thing.

Re:Ut Oh! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34388684)

How in the hell would a firewall help with a DDoS? The attack is due to an overload of traffic, surely this would affect the fw as well?

Re:Ut Oh! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34388816)

The packets get dropped before being sent to the server. If you send me too many packets eventually im just gonna throw out whatever you send me. Kinda like junk mail, junk mail is a ddos to keep me from my daily activities.. I refuse to read the junk mail knowing its junk, and I "drop" the "packet" into the trash:)

Re:Ut Oh! (1)

bsquizzato (413710) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388822)

Firewalls can optionally drop packets from a source IP without really even processing the packet or sending back any kind of "service unavailable/connection refused" reply -- saves on CPU consumption there.

Re:Ut Oh! (1)

JavaBear (9872) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388864)

Correct, the DDoS attack is all about saturating the site's connections and ports, preventing (or severely reducing) legitimate users' access. Sadly, a DDoS like this doesn't just harm the target. To reduce the effectiveness of an attack, you have to filter the traffic before it hits the (comparatively) narrow connections to the end customer.

Re:Ut Oh! (1)

PORNorART (1949708) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388796)

There are a number different types of DDoS attacks that don't overwhelm the website per se but attack the lower level networking layers.

I've always been curious though.. who pays for the bandwidth? 10Gbps doesn't sound cheap.

Re:Ut Oh! (1)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388676)

/. is in trouble now for leaking the US's inability to conduct a succesful DDoS campaign.

I believe that if the US Government wanted to stop Wikileaks, they'd simply bomb the data centers. Electronic attacks like this are not what this government does; It's what its citizens do.

Re:Ut Oh! (2, Insightful)

oldspewey (1303305) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388734)

Electronic attacks like this are not what this government does

Re-read that a few times and give it some thought, then let us know if you'd like to amend that statement.

Re:Ut Oh! (1, Insightful)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388752)

Two problems with this:

1. The data centers are in another country - and bombing other countries is an act of war
2. The data center is in a disused nuclear bunker. So you're going to need a hell of a lot of bombing.

USCYBERCOM (4, Insightful)

AhabTheArab (798575) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388812)

I believe that if the US Government wanted to stop Wikileaks, they'd simply bomb the data centers. Electronic attacks like this are not what this government does; It's what its citizens do.

I beg to differ:

"USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks; and prepare to, when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace operations in order to enable actions in all domains, ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries."

Looks like they're "denying the same to their adversaries" (maybe).

Re:USCYBERCOM (2, Insightful)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388914)

There is no strategic value in attacking wikileaks that I can see. The damage is done.

Re:Ut Oh! (1)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388894)

Electronic attacks like this are not what this government does; It's what its citizens do.

You must mean unsophisticated electronic attacks. This [wikipedia.org] is what governments do. DDoS is for the Pirate Bay and their ilk.

Wait a minute - isn't WikiLeaks TPB's ilk? Maybe we should be looking more closely at Assange's "LOOK AT US, THEY'RE TRYING TO SILENCE US!" claims. Just sayin'.

Re:Ut Oh! (1)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388682)

/. is in trouble now for leaking the US's inability to conduct a succesful DDoS campaign.

No - posting on slashdot is the US's DDoS campaign. Go on can you resist going to wikileaks [wikileaks.org] to check it for yourself?

Slashdotting (4, Insightful)

Barryke (772876) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388858)

The main site seems to work fine after
A) Worldwide mass interest
B) DDOS
C) slashdotting and other causes of sudden increase in traffic.

This should be featured on Discovery's "How do they do it." for sure. I'm peaked.

At least someone has balls (and common sense) (1, Insightful)

MmmmAqua (613624) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388480)

Bravo, Ecuador. Though I do wonder how long he will be welcome once Wikileaks outs something big about Ecuador.

Re:At least someone has balls (and common sense) (3, Insightful)

grub (11606) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388508)


His plane will have "engine trouble" on the way to Ecuador and crash. Just watch.

Re:At least someone has balls (and common sense) (4, Insightful)

mark72005 (1233572) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388736)

Worldwide intelligence services have more than enough information about him to move whenever they wanted.

If this was something they were considering, having him whacked, why wouldn't they have done it before this past leak which was the largest ever?

The reason he's still living is that he hasn't exposed anything embarrassing enough to Russia, or another country that doesn't have any problem getting their hands dirty.

Re:At least someone has balls (and common sense) (5, Insightful)

spazmonkey (920425) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388526)

Wikileaks doesn't out anything anymore, unless its US intelligence. Haven't you noticed they pulled all private corporate leaks and European and other countries leaks? It's not a generic leaks site anymore or I would still support it. They are solely an anti-US espionage org now. They lost any credibility, and any respect, at that point. I say hang him.

Re:At least someone has balls (and common sense) (4, Insightful)

mysidia (191772) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388586)

Assange is out of control. Wikileaks needs to oust him and go back to their original mission, of actually being a whistleblower, rather than just leaking things and hurting national and global security.

Julian Assange should go to jail for a very long time.

Re:At least someone has balls (and common sense) (1)

geegel (1587009) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388634)

How do you separate one from another? Really, how do you? And who should judge which is which?

Re:At least someone has balls (and common sense) (4, Insightful)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388678)

Jail for what? Guess what: US law doesn't apply worldwide! Incredible, I know!

Re:At least someone has balls (and common sense) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34388836)

If only that was true, you will note just how many western states just hand people over to the US government because it decides it wants to convict them.

Re:At least someone has balls (and common sense) (2, Insightful)

Jedi Alec (258881) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388692)

Julian Assange should go to jail for a very long time.

For what exactly? Has he broken any laws you can name *and* been convicted? And no, just because Palin called him a terruhrist doesn't count, that's actually an endorsement in my book.

Re:At least someone has balls (and common sense) (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388774)

How exactly are you be a whistleblower and not leak things that governments are going to claim hurt national security? If you're not pissing off some government or company somewhere, you're NOT a whistleblower.

its the truth - you just don't like it. (0, Offtopic)

spazmonkey (920425) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388704)

don't censor it with mod points just because you don't want to accept it. That wasn't a troll.

Re:its the truth - you just don't like it. (1)

RichardDeVries (961583) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388890)

You don't back up your claims and you generalize your own opinion. "They lost any credibility, and any respect, at that point" may be what you think, but it's not what everyone thinks. Your only valid and somewhat interesting claim is that they "pulled all private corporate leaks and European and other countries leaks," but there could be other reasons for that than being "solely an anti-US espionage org". Still, that's not trolling. Calling for a hanging (of Assange, presumably) is, though.

Re:At least someone has balls (and common sense) (1)

geegel (1587009) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388716)

I think it has more to do with information availability (most of the data was obtained through SIRPNET) and the bias of news organizations towards US. Nonetheless, I don't dismiss your theory either. The data is simply incomplete to draw any reasonable conclusions

Re:At least someone has balls (and common sense) (4, Informative)

PseudonymousBraveguy (1857734) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388576)

Ecuador ranks a whooping 101 on the press freedom index [wikipedia.org] , with an annually deteriorating index value. I'm not quite convinced it's the best country to exile to for people publishing inconveniant documents.

Re:At least someone has balls (and common sense) (1)

airfoobar (1853132) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388820)

Perhaps the Wikileaks documents revealed some interesting truths to the Ecuadorian administration, and that's why they are being nice?

Re:At least someone has balls (and common sense) (1, Offtopic)

A. B3ttik (1344591) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388908)

I don't buy that freedom index at all. Not only is the US #20, it's actually BELOW the UK. A girl was recently arrested for burning a Koran in the UK, and I remember some kids getting arrested for flying a certain flag. In the US, however, NeoNazis and Hippies and Fred Phelps and Gay Pride Parades are all PROTECTED by Police Officers. The US is the only place I know of where an officer of the Law will put his life in the way of your Freedom to speak, even if he and everyone else think that what you are saying is the most hateful, disgusting drivel on the planet.

Savannah down too (unrelated) (-1, Offtopic)

jackjeff (955699) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388486)

Savannah is down too... but no one cares :)
http://savannah.gnu.org/ [gnu.org]

Re:Savannah down too (unrelated) (-1, Offtopic)

masmullin (1479239) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388602)

I care.

Gov't Sponsored DDoS (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34388490)

Seems very likely the US Gov't, through one of it's shadowy connections, hired and paid for this DDoS attack. Interesting trend. I wonder what's next.

Re:Gov't Sponsored DDoS (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388560)

I doubt it - just because they'd know the DDoS wouldn't work. Wikileaks has mirrors, and given their reputation for (perhaps justified) paranoia, probably a hundred or so volunteers around the world hanging on to backups.

Re:Gov't Sponsored DDoS (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34388610)

They also know that body scanners and related security theatre doesn't work, yet... :)

Re:Gov't Sponsored DDoS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34388562)

From what I've read on Slashdot for the last 10 years, this is perfectly acceptable as long as you believe your motives to be just.

Ironic that Wikileaks should be whining about something like this.

Re:Gov't Sponsored DDoS (1)

geegel (1587009) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388568)

That's a bit of a stretch. Plenty of right wingers are pissed on WL and DoS attacks can be easily set up without much geeklore.

Re:Gov't Sponsored DDoS (1)

alta (1263) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388878)

geeklore? Is that like some sort of spell casting thing? We playing a MMO here?

I'm going to cast a lvl 7 extended ddos of destruction against your eth0.

Now, for an AoE it's going to be the expanded godly packets of purity against your entire netmask!

Re:Gov't Sponsored DDoS (1)

wjousts (1529427) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388642)

Seems very likely the US Gov't, through one of it's shadowy connections, hired and paid for this DDoS attack. Interesting trend. I wonder what's next.

Seems very likely to you maybe, but those of us in the non-tin foil hat crowd are less inclined to jump to such a ridiculous conclusion.

Re:Gov't Sponsored DDoS (5, Insightful)

copponex (13876) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388720)

The US government has overthrown democratic governments, it's FBI has assassinated American civilians, the CIA is currently torturing someone to death in a secret prison somewhere in the world, and right now it has the right to extra-judiciously assassinate any person, even US citizens, that it believes to be involved in terrorism.

With these facts, I hardly think an orchestrated DDoS attack seems unlikely.

Re:Gov't Sponsored DDoS (1)

countertrolling (1585477) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388654)

I wonder what's next.

Just like any other terrorist organization, it's more like what's now [bbc.co.uk] ...

Re:Gov't Sponsored DDoS (1)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388738)

Seems very likely the US Gov't, through one of it's shadowy connections, hired and paid for this DDoS attack. Interesting trend. I wonder what's next.

Why do they need shadowy connections? Surely they can decent broadband.

Re:Gov't Sponsored DDoS (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34388744)

Yes, of course. People would be foolish to think otherwise.

There is zero possibility that it could be:
1). Wikileaks creating their own publicity by staging a "DDoS Attack" on their own. They *NEVER* play the victim card, *EVER*.
2). Every single person on the planet trying to "see what the fuss is about".
3). Some indignant hacker with access to a botnet delivering his/her own form of "justice".
4). Some other government (China, Iran, etc...) not wanting their dirty laundry aired.
5). Slashdot.

Only the pure, raw, satanic evil of the US Government - through one of it's "shadowy connections", of course - could ever deliver the sheer bandwidth of *TEN WHOLE GIGABITS* against a website. Why, that's almost one server with a CNA or ten average desktop computer's worth of bandwidth there - or 666 Internet connections at 15mbps... yeah... /sarc

I think (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34388502)

I think the charge for rape is just to get him to a country that the US can extradite him from after they change the laws so it will be illegal to rat on the politicians.

Re:I think (4, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388838)

You mean that Assange *didn't* suddenly become a child molester and rapist exactly two weeks after releasing a cache of classified documents that embarrassed the most powerful country in the world? Are you implying those charges might be TRUMPED-UP as part of an attempt at character assassination?!?!? The hell you say!

Julius Assange (1)

ardmhacha (192482) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388530)

"Julius Assange"

Is he related to Julian Assange?

Re:Julius Assange (1)

gibbsjoh (186795) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388600)

Maybe they confused him with Julius Malema?

Re:Julius Assange (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388732)

"Julius Assange"

Is he related to Julian Assange?

Now I finally know what rhymes with Julius Orange

Re:Julius Assange (1)

M. Baranczak (726671) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388758)

Who cares? Arrest both of em!

Assange should feel lucky... (1)

edremy (36408) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388534)

...that he decided to spread US diplomatic cables. Imagine if he had gotten a hold of a similar set of Russian ones and publicized them. His site wouldn't be DDOS'ed, he'd be dead.

Can't be The Jester then. (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388540)

That's one theory set aside. A hacker called The Jester had claimed credit for the attack, using some sort of uber-DoS tool he wrote that looks suspiciously like a slickly-GUIed implimentation of the old octopus attack as used in anoctupus and varients of slowloris. This, however, ie *far* beyond his level of ability - revealing him to be just yet another script kiddie claiming credit for something he had nothing to do with.

Re:Can't be The Jester then. (1)

geegel (1587009) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388666)

It can be a lot of jesters though. There is strength in numbers you know?

Re:Can't be The Jester then. (3, Funny)

multipartmixed (163409) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388832)

Have you watched Saturday Night Live in the last ten years?

It is very rare for multiple jesters to be as effective in a group setting than a talented hack working alone.

In Soviet Russia (0, Offtopic)

Picardo85 (1408929) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388544)

Wikileaks DDoS the USofA

Biased summary (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34388552)

"...suspected rapist..."

way to give subtle bias in favor of the world's superpower against one person...

Re:Biased summary (1)

nomadic (141991) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388766)

Were you also criticizing most of the slashdot stories on Assange which have been overtly biased in favor of Assange?

I confirm the asylum offer. (5, Funny)

Ecuador (740021) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388566)

He will be quite comfortable and safe in my mother's basement.

Re:I confirm the asylum offer. (1)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388722)

He will be quite comfortable and safe in my mother's basement.

My basement is far better equipped, and is not in my mother's basement. Though... if you want, I could dress up like your mom. Everybody's got their kink you know.

Personal Attacks & Defamation (5, Insightful)

MBHkewl (807459) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388574)

"suspected rapist Julius Assange"

Their attempt at discrediting the accuracy of the info by repeating the word "suspected rapist" is a bit of an old cliche, don't you think?

Also, does this still work, even with so much data available?

Re:Personal Attacks & Defamation (1)

spazmonkey (920425) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388670)

But isn't he currently a rape suspect? As well as being a fugitive, and engaging in flight to avoid prosecution? All of these things are true, and all your fond hopes and wishes that it was all trumped up to stop him are just that - you don;t know if they are true or not. you just want it to be a conspiracy so you can continue to worship the guy regardless of fact.

Re:Personal Attacks & Defamation (2, Insightful)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388886)

Oh come on, we all know its poisoning the well - example

"Man steals car"

"African American aslyum-seeker steals car"

"Black illegal immigrant steals car"

All three of those can describe the same story. Do you notice the bias towards the end?

Sure they're all true, but are they linked to the story? Does him being a rape suspect, in any way contributes to this story? Of course it could be "Mothers Against Rape Suspects" DDOSing him, but that's unlikely.

Re:Personal Attacks & Defamation (1)

wjousts (1529427) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388698)

Although technically true, "Julius" [sic - his name is Julian] is accused of rape, so he qualifies as a "suspected rapist", I agree that throwing that into the summary is irrelevant to the story and unnecessarily prejudice.

Re:Personal Attacks & Defamation (1)

countertrolling (1585477) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388852)

Also, does this still work, even with so much data available?

Yes! of course. Every election result with their 95% reelection rate of corrupt politicians is proof that it works extremely well.

Re:Personal Attacks & Defamation (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388874)

"suspected rapist Julius Assange"

I'd have gone with Anti-American douche-bag, myself.

Re:Personal Attacks & Defamation (5, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388918)

I think possible dog molester MBHkewl is right. Much as I disagree with MBHkewl's alleged disgusting lifestyle, I think it's possible, just possible, that we're seeing an obvious case of character assassination here. And I urge readers to overlook the fact that MBHkewl purportedly rapes innocent puppies long enough to consider that he may have a point.

Wikileaks isn't a leaks aleaks site anymore (2, Insightful)

spazmonkey (920425) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388588)

They pulled all corporate and other countries leaks. Now they are simply an anti-US organization. They lost all claim to moral superiority or credibility at that point. Its simply a politically motivated espionage group now with an axe to grind against one country. Treat them like it. When he disappears, or accidentally falls down an elevator shaft on to a pile of bullets, no one will cry.

Re:Wikileaks isn't a leaks aleaks site anymore (1)

dragonhunter21 (1815102) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388694)

I've heard rumors that the next leak is US Bank.

Can they help it that the United States is the juiciest target?

Re:Wikileaks isn't a leaks aleaks site anymore (4, Insightful)

spazmonkey (920425) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388756)

Where did all the other leaks, private and government go then? Why did they pull even the old ones from their archives? Justify that.

Re:Wikileaks isn't a leaks aleaks site anymore (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34388696)

But Slashdot will cry.

Re:Wikileaks isn't a leaks aleaks site anymore (1)

Bobakitoo (1814374) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388712)

Oh look! Someone drank all the kool-aid.

Re:Wikileaks isn't a leaks aleaks site anymore (1)

IgnoramusMaximus (692000) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388850)

When? If just now then the most likely scenario is that they pulled everything but the latest stuff in an effort to minimize the size of the pages and the load on the servers in face of the DDOS. A common practice in such cases.

Its not that th3j35t3r kid again is it? (1)

kaptink (699820) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388598)

Its not that th3j35t3r kid again is it? Or is it the US government in disguise? I would have thought most people would want to know all the dodgy stuff the government has been lying about. I'm still straining to find this information that puts soldiers in jeperdy any more than those in Washington did in the first place. If you havent watched the Restrepo documentary that has just come out I'd highly recommend it. Couldnt help remember how GW got out of active service and then signed up these poor buggers. But back on topic, why are people so opposed to a guy just trying to show the world all the dodgy crap being pulled on us?

Re:Its not that th3j35t3r kid again is it? (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388710)

th3j35t3r appears to be a person with one effective DoS tool (He acts like it's some super-secret uberweapon he designed himself, but what he describes looks a lot like some varient of the old octopus attack). He can use it to easily knock out a lot of sites, until the admins catch on and make a trivial configuration change. But this is completly beyond him: He doesn't use a botnet, and just doesn't have so much bandwidth at his command. He's just another script kiddie bragging about something he had nothing to do with.

I still wouldn't be surprised if this was the work of a patriotic hacker trying to defend his home country... but not that particular patriotic hacker.

Re:Its not that th3j35t3r kid again is it? (1)

spazmonkey (920425) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388792)

I would like to see those leaks too. I see a distinct difference between a leaks site and a political hack. I would bet we don't see all anyway - with his obvious bias, he won't publish a lot of leaks he doesn't want out. How much did he redact from this?

He is rocking the boat that people are sitting in (5, Interesting)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388794)

People don't like people who rock the boat they are sitting in, especially if its edge is already close to the waterline. They tend to kick people overboard, even if they are the person trying to signal a rescuer.

Wikileaks is exposing not just the obvious criminal corruption, the stuff you claim on others, but the widespread moral apathy that is the US of A. You can see it from the murder video. 12 civilians clearly unarmed shot with the murderers expressing clear joy at their slaughter. The US reaction? Absolutely nothing. If any of these soldiers were ever to be brought before a war crimes tribunal, the US of A has invasion plans for The Netherlands to stop any international justice by whatever force required.

This is America, and it doesn't sit well to have this truth shoved in their face. They want to believe the US of A is the land of the free, defender of democracy, hero of the oppressed.

You have to remember that most countries have the same thing. The Netherlands and its war crimes in Indonesia. Recently the state refused to meet a survivor of a masacre the germans would have been proud off, because it was going to upset the murderers. Don't ask the british about their colonial behavior or say the treatment of Jews after WW2.

Wikileaks is kicking up the dirt in peoples eyes and the people don't like it one bit.

Easier to kill the messenger then deal with the message. Always has been true, always will be. Cue this message running a high change of instantly disappearing because a teabagger is upset and mods it down to never be seen again.

Assange = Terrorist (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34388622)

I hope the CIA gets Assange. Telling people what their government does in secret and how they treat allied nations is a crime against Democracy. People vote better and make smarter decisions when they don't know the truth. Assange needs to realize that people must be protected against their own stupidity and that in order to protect Democracy we must take away people's freedom of choice.
Oh yeah, and he hurt the US of A while trying to expose their bad actions against other nations! How can anyone do that?? We're the USA, the good guys! Didn't he see enough Hollywood movies? Even if we seem wrong, we're actually serving the greater good but it's just hard to see the bigger picture! What a jerk! People who don't realize the USA are morally better than anyone else deserve to be shipped to Gitmo without a trial. Maybe Obama can order his assassination, this would be great because no trial is possible if the President gives that order so Assange would not get away from that.

Mod summary "-1 Flamebait" (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34388624)

I don't care how much the CIA is paying tetrahedrassface, unless they're cutting Taco a check too there's no reason to include the bogus-ass "rape" charges in the summary.

DDoS is dumb (1, Troll)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388628)

This is the work of some self-described patriot, living in his mother's basement in Montana with a pile of guns and a disused American Flag pinned up to the wall, yelling "ye-HAW!"...

Sad to say, but this is actually progress. Remember the day when only well-educated people knew how to cause major electronic mischief? I suppose it's a sign that technology is becoming increasingly accessible when even the most repulsively stupid amongst us can manage it.

Re:DDoS is dumb (1, Insightful)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388860)

And you know that your favorite fantasy redneck villain is behind this (as opposed to Iranians, Chinese, Koreans, Saudis, or anyone else unhappy about their off the record discussions being made public) how, exactly? Ah, you don't. It's just a chance for you to make a petulent, sniffing, elitist poke at your favorite stereotype, from your own basement, while wearing your mother's clothes, with a Julien Assange blow-up doll in your lap. Right? Because I have just as much information about you as you have about the imaginary person you're blaming. What's especially fun is that you miss the irony of your preferred state of affairs, where "well-educated" people with broken ethics considered their own smartness to be a license to be jackasses.

Pied Piper (4, Interesting)

FuckingNickName (1362625) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388640)

What we've learnt about the US is that they privately criticise and occasionally seek intelligence on important figures, and they don't like their citizens being arrested. Moreover, several million people have US "secret" clearance, which means anyone foreign and relevant also had the information: the release was therefore benign.

In other shocking news, I sometimes mumble "idiot!" under my breath after leaving a meeting and double-check a CV. Don't get me wrong, it's a great laugh to see a few fragile egos insulted, but the most interesting thing to come from this in the West will be whatever law stops it happening again.

This leak was damaging to those who the US are currently LARTing, from the UK to Saudi Arabia; from a diplomatic PoV, the US government has come out pretty well while playing the perfect victim. It's almost like we're approaching a significant anniversary of another time it did that: now the fires need stoking from an information warfare angle.

If wikileaks is being DDoS'd, it certainly isn't the US government trying to put some genie back in a bottle.

I'm sure I'm not alone when I say... (1)

dragonhunter21 (1815102) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388668)

Go Equador.

simple solution (2, Insightful)

VincenzoRomano (881055) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388690)

Put everything on bittorrent.

Re:simple solution (2, Informative)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388776)

Its been done already. The files were placed on pirate bay and encrypted. Its a clever backup.

Freenet? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34388702)

Why does not Wikileaks post all their leaks on Freenet which is somewhat robust to DDoS _and_ provides great encryption and anonymity?

Re:Freenet? (1)

Ash-Fox (726320) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388840)

Why does not Wikileaks post all their leaks on Freenet which is somewhat robust to DDoS _and_ provides great encryption and anonymity?

Freenet suffers from a few problems involving retention of information and the lack of userbase capable of using it.

I don't know if I would go to Ecuador yet. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34388788)

I don't know if I would hurry to Ecuador and become a citizen yet...since they have honored extradition requests from the US in the past (www.oas.org/juridico/MLA/en/ecu/index.html specifically under the "description and general explanation of extradition system").

Coral CDN Link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34388862)

Maybe it helps:

http://cablegate.wikileaks.org.nyud.net/

http://cablegate.wikileaks.org.nyud.net/reldate/2010-11-30_0.html

©ontrol (2, Interesting)

sean_nestor (781844) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388870)

Fight the power and the power will fight back!
You're only as good as the system you hack;
If you become a problem you will be replaced--
banned, shut down, erased!

The world has capsized, gone erratic
Constitutional rights have dissolved into static
The truth is based on misinformation--
reality is only a hallucination!

-MDFMK, ©ontrol

Maybe it's the banks? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34388892)

TV said something about the next wikileak release being about banks at an executive, and being on the level of "Enron emails".

If anyone's got something to hide, it's those banks eh!

Picking your targets (1)

David Gerard (12369) | more than 3 years ago | (#34388916)

Gosh, it's a good thing that the mysterious source of these DDoS attacks isn't targeting an organisation led by someone with tremendous technical chops who knows every dirty trick you can do with computers on a network and knows how to defend and preempt them [underground-book.net] . Or anything.

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