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A Third of World's Spam From One Russian Man

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the hormel-should-be-so-proud dept.

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DaveNJ1987 writes "The FBI believes that one third of the world's spam messages are being generated by one 23-year-old Russian man. Oleg Nikolaenko of Moscow is being blamed for operating the Mega D botnet that sent spam emails from over 500,000 infected computers."

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somebody should kill the bastard (0, Flamebait)

FudRucker (866063) | more than 2 years ago | (#34429920)

put a bullet or two in his head, preferably from a large caliber pistol, semi jacketed hollow point

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34429952)

put a bullet or two in his head, preferably from a large caliber pistol, semi jacketed hollow point

Such a dumb idea.

Shoot him in the gut. While he's slowly (and painfully) dying, maybe he'll have a chance to think about all the evil he has caused.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (2, Insightful)

devbox (1919724) | more than 2 years ago | (#34429990)

Yes, lets forget about laws and giving sentences that are in line with the crime. No matter how you want to spin it, spamming clearly isn't as big crime as rape, violence or killing someone.

In fact, screw sentences and court. Let's just kill anyone that breaks laws.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (2, Informative)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430034)

Yes, lets forget about laws and giving sentences that are in line with the crime. No matter how you want to spin it, spamming clearly isn't as big crime as rape, violence or killing someone.

Yes but it might be 1/500,000 as bad - justifying the same sentence.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (4, Insightful)

digitalsushi (137809) | more than 2 years ago | (#34431036)

Nope, it's not. Find someone who would rather be raped to deleting 500,000 messages from their inbox.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34430122)

Fuck'n A bubba! Wait, you were joking? damn....

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (1)

aardwolf64 (160070) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430230)

You're right... we should just slap him in the face. Once for every spam message sent out from his servers, which would be 1/3 the spam sent out for the last decade or so.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430284)

How about one hit with a spoon [youtube.com] for every spam sent?

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (1)

jolyonr (560227) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430316)

You should be shot for that comment!

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (1)

Tom (822) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430892)

Yes, lets forget about laws and giving sentences that are in line with the crime. No matter how you want to spin it, spamming clearly isn't as big crime as rape, violence or killing someone.

Number of offenses counts for something, you know? Raping ten women does and should yield you a higher sentence then raping one.

So while each individual crime is tiny, do sum it up. So, for all I care, give him one second of jailtime for every spam message he sent. That'd get him put away for a couple hundred years.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (0, Flamebait)

captainpanic (1173915) | more than 2 years ago | (#34429970)

Apologies for stereotyping... but you must be American...

Civilized countries arrest someone, then try him. People are not guilty until proven guilty... and you certainly won't get shot until proven guilty.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (1)

oranGoo (961287) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430000)

If your geo-socio stereotyping is correct, he actually might have much higher chance of getting shot then average citizen of the world.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (0)

ByOhTek (1181381) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430006)

Wow... that stereotype makes about as much sense as a stereotype saying black people have teeth.

Yep, it's true, but it doesn't really distinguish them from any other ethnicity.

Way to be a bigoted dumbass my friend.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34430128)

as a stereotype saying black people have teeth

Wait... they DO?! Shit.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34430404)

Yes, they have teeth. Down There. My pappy tol' me so when I was 12.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (1)

thousandinone (918319) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430494)

Vagina Dentata! What a terrible phrase...
Vagina Dentata! It'll make you crazed...

It means fuckin teeth, when you're going to get laid...

Oh thank God for thee,
Pornography...

Vagina Dentata!

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (2)

timeOday (582209) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430276)

Executing, no. But are there any other nations arresting/kidnapping people from various countries and shipping them to secret prisons around the globe for indefinite incarceration and torture without ever standing trial? It's not a rhetorical question. I can't think of any other nations that do that.

There are also a outcry from surprisingly mainstream figures in the US for the summary murder of Julian Assange. I can't think of any people from other countries who talk that way about US citizens, other than people we call terrorists. So, I'm curious why you say it's universal. Again, not a rhetorical question, what I'm asking for is a example or two of where else this is happening.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (2)

ByOhTek (1181381) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430854)

Of course other countries do that, they just do a better job at keeping it secret. Just because you don't know of a case where that happens, doesn't mean there isn't one.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (1)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430086)

Apologies for stereotyping... but you must be American...

Civilized countries arrest someone, then try him. People are not guilty until proven guilty... and you certainly won't get shot until proven guilty.

I would say " ... and you certainly won't get shot deliberately until proven guilty. People certainly have been shot [bbc.co.uk] before being proven guilty.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (1)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430190)

> ... and you certainly won't get shot deliberately ...

Sounds pretty deliberate to me (self defense is still deliberate, even if that's what it was).

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34430094)

Apologies for stereotyping... but you must be an idiot...

Americans might say how they feel. That rarely translates into actions.

Ever hear that old saw "actions speak louder than words"?

Despite our rather tarnished reputation -- a gift from another idiot -- we too start by arresting people and trying them in a court of law. Some people even think we invented that. Certainly our track record is (usually) a lot better than what you can expect in lots of other places in the world.

Now go back under your bridge...

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (4, Insightful)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430110)

> Apologies for stereotyping...

Apology not accepted.

> ...but you must be American...

Like the Canadian advisor to the PM who recently called for the murder of Julian Assange? Or the British police who attack Brazilian tourists in the subway and shoot them in the head?

> Civilized countries arrest someone, then try him.

And, not coincidentally, he has been arrested in the USA and will be tried.

Ah, nice BULLSHITTING (1)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430270)

The brazillian was NOT a tourist, he was an illegal alien who ran from the police trying to make an arrest. But I suppose "criminal fleeing from armed police and failing to respond to a stop order gets shot" isn't in line with your bleeding heart.

And since you are a bleeding heart who twist the truth to suite his agenda I will from now on assume that everything you say is twisted and a lie.

Just what the world needs, an advocate for truth who lies. That will get people to see things differently.

Re:Ah, nice BULLSHITTING (1)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430446)

he was an illegal alien who ran from the police trying to make an arrest

He wasn't an illegal alien, and the CCTV footage released of the incident shows he wasn't running, or wearing a big bulky jacket. NEXT!

Re:Ah, nice BULLSHITTING (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34431074)

He wasn't an illegal alien

According to the Home Office, he arrived in Britain on 13 March 2002, on a six-month visitor's visa. After its expiry, he applied to stay on as a student, and was granted permission to remain until 30 June 2003. The Home Office said it had no record of any further correspondence, but added: "We have seen a copy of Mr Menezes' passport, containing a stamp apparently giving him indefinite leave to remain in the UK. On investigation, this stamp was not one that was in use by the Immigration and Nationality Directorate on the date given."
- Wiki [wikipedia.org]

CCTV footage released of the incident shows he wasn't running

It was later indicated by the leaked IPCC documents that Menezes may have run across the platform to get a seat on the train, and did not know at the time that he was being watched or pursued.
- Wiki [wikipedia.org]

[not] wearing a big bulky jacket.

Correct.
Menezes was wearing a pair of jeans and a light denim jacket.

Then again,
Mark Whitby, a witness to the shooting, told Reuters that he observed Menezes wearing a large winter coat, which "looked out of place".
Anthony Larkin, another eyewitness, told the BBC that Menezes appeared to be wearing a "bomb belt with wires coming out."

- Wiki [wikipedia.org]

Re:Ah, nice BULLSHITTING (1)

locofungus (179280) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430506)

The brazillian was NOT a tourist, he was an illegal alien who ran from the police trying to make an arrest. But I suppose "criminal fleeing from armed police and failing to respond to a stop order gets shot" isn't in line with your bleeding heart.

"Fleeing from armed police" means "sitting on a tube train"
"Illegal alien" means "Was here legally"

I'm amazed you didn't also mention
"jumped over barriers" means "stopped to pick up a metro on the way into the station"
"Wearing heavy clothing" means "wearing a denim jacket"

You really were taken in by the police lies weren't you.

And it's so convenient that the CCTV in the tube train just happened to stop working when this happens which allowed all these lies to be promulgated.

Tim.

Re:Ah, nice BULLSHITTING (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34430604)

You forgot to mention that he was shot in the head...several times...while not resisting arrest

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (0)

camperslo (704715) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430558)

Since his spamming goes beyond national boundaries, even extending to satellite net links that reach into space, this may fall under Cardassian jurisdiction.

"In Cardassian criminal trials the defendant is presumed guilty and in fact the punishment is already decided before the trial begins; the purpose of the trial (effectively a show trial) is merely to help the defendant acknowledge his wrongdoing. In Cardassian mystery novels, everyone is always guilty, the puzzle being to work out who is guilty of what. In Cardassian mythology the Galor deity was a helmeted, warrior demigod of antiquity. Tribute is paid to the vessel class of the same name as well as the likeness seen in the national symbol."

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Cardassian [wikimedia.org]

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34430932)

Keeping up with the Kardashians was an instant hit for E! - in its first month on the air it became the highest-rated series on Sunday nights among women aged 18 to 34 and was also seen by 1.3 million total viewers. The second season continued the success and was viewed by 1.6 million viewers - a 23% increase from the first season.

The fourth season's premiere, The Wedding, became the highest rated episode in the series history with nearly 3.2 million viewers and also brought in the highest rating in the women 18-34 demographic E! had ever had. The second episode of the season topped the success of the premiere and became the new highest rated episode in the series with 4.1 million viewers. This record was then broken for a third time by the season finale with 4.8 million viewers - which also made the episode the most watched broadcast ever in E!'s history.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (1)

aclarke (307017) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430852)

Like the Canadian advisor to the PM who recently called for the murder of Julian Assange?

You mean, like the FORMER advisor to the Prime Minister? If you're going to state "facts", get them straight: http://www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2010/12/01/flanagan-wikileaks-assange.html [www.cbc.ca] . Here we have a guy, who has an opinion. BFD. He doesn't reflect the Canadian government's opinion in any way; he's a guy who said something on TV.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (2)

HaZardman27 (1521119) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430126)

Apparently America is not a "civilized" country because its citizens are free to use humor as they see fit. I sincerely doubt the GP would actually shoot this man, but it's Friday morning and many would like to start their morning with humor.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (2)

sco08y (615665) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430382)

Apparently America is not a "civilized" country because its citizens are free to use humor as they see fit. I sincerely doubt the GP would actually shoot this man, but it's Friday morning and many would like to start their morning with humor.

In its haste to bring about world peace, it seems the UN forgot to include humor in its declaration of human rights. We'll have to ask Libya and Sudan at the next meeting of the Human Rights Commission if they'll approve adding it.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (1)

khallow (566160) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430930)

And civilized countries will be the first to go when the zombie apocalypse hits. People who ruin other peoples' jokes on Slashdot should be shot.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (2)

Krau Ming (1620473) | more than 2 years ago | (#34429978)

that's too quick (obviously). i'm thinking coliseum full of people, him with a dull sword, and some hungry tigers.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (1)

ByOhTek (1181381) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430022)

That'd be too quick. maybe every few minutes, add some starving weasels.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (1)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430018)

Naah, that's too uncivilised.

Force him to read spam emails for the rest of his life.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34430026)

You are the type that want to solve everything with a bullet. Think of his family, even if him is an asshole, he deserves a trial. Also if you put him down who is gonna deactivate the botnet?. You also may suggest hollow point bullets for every infected PC and its owner.
Take him down, and ten more will appear. The spam only exists because there are people willing to pay for sending it, as long as there is no punishment for the clients, this thing will get happening over and over.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34430274)

I agree with you and disagree with your parent post. That's why I shot him.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (0)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430030)

I don't understand why people hate Email Ads so much.
All you have to do is filter them out.
It's not worth killing someone.

Now the head of the RIAA or MPAA - that's a different story. They are extortionists ("Pay $5000 or else we'll ruin you life"), and deserve to die.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (3, Insightful)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430194)

Email, on the server-side, is an io-bound process. That is, disk usage is a concern every bit as much as memory and bandwidth. I've seen spam kick loads on servers that would be running ~2-5 up to around a 15. Dropping the spammer in the firewall brought the load down almost immediately. I then had to remove all the mail they were pushing to us from the queue so I could force-deliver the legitimate mail, as the queue had become severely backed up, and mails that should have gone through right away had been backed up for several hours. The server had been in critical for CPU for several hours in nagios before I came in and fixed it because the people on the previous shift hadn't thought to check the mail queue, despite the fact the mail queue was also in critical on that server.

Spam is a plague like no other. It's a vector for phishing and infection and causes verifiable harm in and of itself.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (3, Informative)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430228)

> I don't understand why people hate Email Ads so much.

They constitute more than 99% of email traffic.

> All you have to do is filter them out.

It is impossible to reliably filter them all without losing real mail.

> It's not worth killing someone.

Correct.

> Now the head of the RIAA or MPAA - that's a different story.

No it isn't.

Wow, spam worse than murder! (0, Flamebait)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430080)

Amazing on how some people view the world. Apparently if you interfere with their lives or fun its OK to make jokes about killing the person who causes it.

Were any lives lost? Human or animal? So how is this so adversely affecting you or others that it should cost this man his life.

Look, we have people fight every day to keep monsters alive, serial killers and rapist who have proven their lack of value, are given more accordance than the homeless. Something is very wrong in society when monsters are more important than victims and when punishment has little bearing on the crime

Re:Wow, spam worse than murder! (1)

e3m4n (947977) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430302)

in some countries the punishment for stealing is to cut off ones hand. I suppose removing several fingers with a cigar cutter would be on par with this level of rationalization. Of course some youtube videos of him becoming some cellmates bitch could be a really good deterrent for the next would-be spammer out there. Not only would he/she be risking the same fate, but all their friends seeing them prison raped on youtube would be the salt in the wound for sure.

As for murders and rapist, I say dump them on a sparsely vegetated island with no indigenous life and tell them they eat what they kill. Cheaper on the tax payer that way.

Re:Wow, spam worse than murder! (2)

osgeek (239988) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430442)

How many billions and billions of dollars does spam cost in terms of hardware, bandwidth, and human effort?
How much does the opportunity cost of these billions of dollars hurt the world in terms of more productive progress?
How many financial lives are ruined through scams, trojans, and viruses that enter people's computers through spam?

This guy was likely responsible for ruining many lives.

Having dealt with an assortment of people dealing with emotional loss, whether because of molestation, rape, or financial ruin - I can tell you that it's all the same. The perpetrator of these crimes took perfectly good lives and damaged them, possibly destroying many.

By sitting on the sidelines and poo-pooing the true devastation that spam causes, you're complicit in society's failure to deal properly with its worst enemies.

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (1)

jolyonr (560227) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430576)

>somebody should kill the bastard

Let me help fix the article for your benefit:

"The FBI believes that one third of the world's spam messages are being generated by one 23-year-old Russian man. Oleg Nikolaenko, also known by his alias Julian Assange, is being blamed for operating the Mega D botnet that sent spam emails from over 500,000 infected computers."

Re:somebody should kill the bastard (1)

bluie- (1172769) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430632)

underrated!

Can I be first in line... (1)

cdoggyd (1118901) | more than 2 years ago | (#34429926)

...to punch him in the balls? PLEASE!

Hand me the lighter fluid... (2)

redemtionboy (890616) | more than 2 years ago | (#34429938)

Who's ready for a good old fashioned lynching?

Re:Hand me the lighter fluid... (1, Insightful)

grcumb (781340) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430144)

Who's ready for a good old fashioned lynching?

You guys go ahead. We're a little busy right now, coercing data services here in the US to stop spreading the truth about our diplomatic corps.

Best,

The US Govt.

Re:Hand me the lighter fluid... (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430712)

I never heard precisely what truth that was. That we spy, like everyone else? General consensus seems to have been that the embassy wires were embarrassing, but not scandalous, and I havent heard that the gov't is trying to prevent people from reporting on it.

In fact, if anything, Ive heard how embarrassing it is that the gov't's response has been so timid.

More Details and Background (5, Informative)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 2 years ago | (#34429942)

There's better coverage over at the Journal Sentinel of Milwaukee [jsonline.com] . Apparently the FBI agent tracking them is based out of there. Neat little story about how he got nabbed coming to Las Vegas for some big car show.

From the article cited in the summary:

The botnet sends out millions of spam messages ...

You're a few orders of magnitude off there. Try tens of billions ...

Re:More Details and Background (1)

Bromskloss (750445) | more than 2 years ago | (#34429986)

From the article cited in the summary:

The botnet sends out millions of spam messages ...

You're a few orders of magnitude off there. Try tens of billions ...

I'd say it has the wrong dimension altogether. Is that the number of messages per second, per year, per Planck time?

Re:More Details and Background (5, Funny)

hedwards (940851) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430042)

Planck time? That's a great suggestion. All we need is a suitable ship and we can make sure he gets some Planck time.

Re:More Details and Background (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34430182)

I heard there was a good candidate for that here [abc.net.au] .

Re:More Details and Background (1)

MillionthMonkey (240664) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430830)

"I hereby sentence you to 10^-33 seconds."

In other news I noticed that one 10^-33-th of my spam is gone this morning.

Re:More Details and Background (1)

Neil Boekend (1854906) | more than 2 years ago | (#34431022)

one 10^-33-th = 1/(10^-33)=10^33
You lost 10^33 as much spam as you had? Interresting! All the spam must be gone, even the spam from the future and the past!

Re:More Details and Background (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430346)

Maybe it's sending millions of spam messages per parsec?

Wow (4, Funny)

Rik Sweeney (471717) | more than 2 years ago | (#34429946)

The FBI believes that one third of the world's spam messages are being generated by one 23-year-old Russian man

Congratulations to Oleg Nikolaenko for achieving so much at such a young age!

Re:Wow (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430362)

If he can keep going, maybe he'll be able to send 8/3 of the world's spam messages by the age of 30!

Re:Wow (1, Insightful)

dangitman (862676) | more than 2 years ago | (#34431028)

The FBI believes that one third of the world's spam messages are being generated by one 23-year-old Russian man

Congratulations to Oleg Nikolaenko for achieving so much at such a young age!

Unfortunately, the article is inaccurate. He's not a man yet, he's only 23.

Paradigm shift (1)

RogueRat (1710322) | more than 2 years ago | (#34429956)

Wow, a large scale internet operation that CAN'T be blamed on 4chan. Looks like they need to step up their game.

Re:Paradigm shift (1)

bughunter (10093) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430058)

Well, the FBI doesn't say who the other two thirds comes from. 4Chan could /b/ doing just fine.

Fake Rolexes and Fake Zoloft (1)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430032)

The botnet sends out millions of spam messages on behalf of scam artists selling fake prescriptions and Rolex watches.

Now we can identify the truly stupid people by their fake Rolex and their false sense of well-being.

Re:Fake Rolexes and Fake Zoloft (1)

dangitman (862676) | more than 2 years ago | (#34431042)

Now we can identify the truly stupid people by their fake Rolex and their false sense of well-being.

It didn't say the Rolexes were fake, only the prescriptions.

Too Early? (4, Funny)

bughunter (10093) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430040)

I looked at this summary over my first sip of coffee and read "A Third of World's Sperm From One Russian Man," and nearly spit it onto my macbook.

Titles like this should wait until after 10:00 am Eastern/7:00 am Pacific.

Re:Too Early? (3, Funny)

Ogive17 (691899) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430096)

Is it surprising a male (assumption) macbook user had sperm on the mind? ;)

(who needs karma anyway!)

Re:Too Early? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34430530)

Also interesting: the need to point out that it was "my macbook" and not "my laptop" or "my keyboard".

Re:Too Early? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34430452)

My sleep deprived brains forgot the context of coffee sipping and focused on the word "sperm" and "nearly spitting it", hereby constructing a peculiar form of reality..

Re:Too Early? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34430476)

Interesting, my initial read was - A Third of World's Spam (as in the meat in a can) From One Russian Man. I was wondering what kind of farm this guy had. :)

Re:Too Early? (1)

elysiana (1152995) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430662)

That's okay, I must be a sick puppy because my first thought was "Man, there really ISN'T much real meat in Spam, is there?"

Re:Too Early? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34430542)

Plane your girlfried in the morning before leaving the bed, then you do not need to think about sperm the remaning of the day

Re:Too Early? (2)

bughunter (10093) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430644)

Similarly, have an egg or a pancake before replying, and you need not concern yourself with planing fried girls.

(I prefer to plane my girls baked, for the record...)

Re:Too Early? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34430862)

"Tits like this should wait until after 10:00 am Eastern/7:00 am Pacific."

Damn!

Re:Too Early? (1)

frizzantik (944615) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430994)

You spit a third of the world's sperm onto your macbook?

EXCLUSIVE: This is the next Google project! (3, Informative)

Noryungi (70322) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430078)

Somewhere in Moscow, a geek named Oleg Nikolaenko is hunched over a pile of computers in a dank and dark basement.

Suddenly, a knock on the door!

Cautiously, Oleg watches through the door peephole at a tall, muscular stranger, with shades on, dressed all in black leather, except for a "Google" patch on the left side of his jacket.

The stranger (with a strong Austrian accent): "Oleg Nikolaenko?"

Several days later, at a Google HQ conference in Mountain View:

- "Yes, our motto is, and still remains: 'Do not be Evil'... We made an exception this one time, but the project nicknamed 'Extreme Prejudice (beta)' has been officially disbanded and the blueprints destroyed. The persons responsible for the projects have been sacked. Any questions?"

- "Yes, Mr Brin, what is the *other* project Google wanted to discuss?"

- "Well, we are pleased to announce that the new Google Map now incorporates 'Satellite Friend Tracking' to know -- in real time -- where all your friends are, anywhere in the world!"

Re:EXCLUSIVE: This is the next Google project! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34430514)

Kill yourself. Suck-start a howitzer.

What do they do with the botnet? (1)

abcjared (1126307) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430092)

Do they take it down? Confiscate it for the governments use?

one guy? (1)

X10 (186866) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430176)

How come this guy is not in jail yet?

Re:one guy? (1)

Relayman (1068986) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430724)

He is. The submitter and the original story missed that part...

In soviet Russia... (2)

Etriaph (16235) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430206)

...spam sends you.

Re:In soviet Russia... (2)

Tukz (664339) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430246)

...to jail.

Re:In soviet Russia... (1)

arndawg (1468629) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430334)

On slashdot.....soviet russia was never funny.

Why can't we take action? (1)

J. L. Tympanum (39265) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430288)

With all the talent lying aroung here, why can't we just take unilateral action to attack this guy and his botnet? Can it be that hard to track them down and hack them to pieces?

("hack" in the computer sense, not the Texas sense)

Re:Why can't we take action? (1)

darkgumby (647085) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430540)

As a native Texan I think both types of hacking are appropriate.

Re:Why can't we take action? (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430760)

If you have a way around all the jurisdictional issues of "hacking" infected computers across states, countries, and continents, please do tell. Then we can deal with the issue of "how do we properly remove rootkits and viruses from 500,000 computers, when there is no 100% effective method of disinfecting 1".

Re:Why can't we take action? (1)

J. L. Tympanum (39265) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430972)

Obviously it has to be done "underground", i.e., outside the reach of any jurisdiction. As for the lack of a 100% effective method - that's not necessary. It would be sufficient to (a) disrupt Oleg Nikolaenko's machinery, and (b) disable 90% (or any significant fraction) of the botnet. Extra points if (b) can be done while leaving the functionality of the machines innocent victims which have been recruited into the botnet intact.

Re:Why can't we take action? (1)

Neil Boekend (1854906) | more than 2 years ago | (#34431078)

With all the talent lying aroung here, why can't we just take unilateral action to attack this guy and his botnet?

Most of us pretend to be hackers/lawyers/sentient. The actual talent here may be below zero.

Is it true? (1)

NetServices (1479949) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430304)

I don't know if I believe this. If they can honestly believe that to be true why hasn't he been stopped?

FBI versus Spamhaus (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430308)

I don't see this guy listed on the spamhaus top 10 spammers list [spamhaus.org] . We know that if he was arrested in the past week his spam volume would not have decreased that dramatically that quickly; so why does the US government disagree with the magnitude of this guy's role?

Fuck The Feel-Good Response (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430402)

And by that I mean don't kill this guy. No matter how much it might stoke your ego and make you feel righteous, it is the wrong thing to do. Not only would the punishment be orders of magnitude worse than the crime, it wouldn't accomplish anything anyways.

We all read about spam gangs and botnets regularly. We know that no one person is worth crap to the spam community; even if the 10 most prolific spammers were killed this afternoon the volume would not change appreciably - hell there is an argument that could be made that such an action would actually increase spam volume as people from the next tier would start jockeying for power.

Indeed, no amount of violence or government action (or violent government action) will do anything to the spam problem. If you want to stop spam, you need to attack the motivating force behind the spam - and I'll give you a clue, spam isn't sent off just to piss you off (no matter how much you may want to believe to the contrary).

So take a moment, put down your weapons, and listen. Think about why this guy does what he does. If you can change that, then he won't want to do what he's done anymore.

Luckily precedent is available. (5, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430436)

One of the lesser-known sections of the code of Hammurabi reads "If a man shall falsely promise p3n1s 3xt3nsion and thereby cause public nuisance and distress, his own penis shall be stretched by one digit for each such false promise. If he spreads his false promises by means of another man's messenger, he shall be flogged."

They often skip this one in elementary history lessons on the matter; but it is arguably quite salient in today's interconnected world...

Re:Luckily precedent is available. (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430798)

To any students using the internet rather than a library to do their homework: I am lying in order to score "funny" mods. Also, "a guy who calls himself fuzzyfuzzyfungus told me" is not an acceptable citation format in any version of the MLA handbook.

PSA Ends.

Shoot him in the face. (1)

LoudMusic (199347) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430474)

Shoot him in the face.

No!

Build a contraption in which he is placed that requires him to read spam email out loud continuously lest it begin doing evil things to his person.

Then when he's read all the spam shoot him in the face. Don't bother getting the gun ready.

misread as... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34430518)

A Third of World's Sperm From One Russian Man...

Outsourcing everything (1)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430584)

It used to be that spam kingpins like Alan Ralsky were based right here in the good old USA. Now it seems we're contracting out even our criminal behavior!

in soviet russia.... (1)

inerlogic (695302) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430658)

DAMNIT PEGGY!!

non-emergency mass-alert/notification system! (1)

mikeru22 (1222780) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430750)

amazing...well at least now we can confiscate his equipment and use it as a non-emergency mass-alert/notification system!

so ? (3, Insightful)

Tom (822) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430828)

So what are we waiting for? Someone shoot him.

Oh, I forgot. We live in an age where the general public is not something that anyone stands up for anymore. Our politicians are all bought, we ourselves are too lazy and scared, and most of what we have in NGOs has become a political quagmire of commercialized selling of "feel good".

Sending the same amount of traffic to an individual company would result in charges for a DOS attack, no questions asked. But no, as long as you have enough victims and only minor damage to each, nobody really cares very much.

Will he be punished? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34430924)

Yes the US authorities will never pursue this guy as hard as they are trying to with Julian Assange.
I think that if anyone of us (Slashdotters or other sysadmin type people) met this guy in the street and knew who he was, would not think twice about punching him as hard as possible in the face, repeatedly.
People such as this guy really need to be made aware of the problems that they cause. While I'm not advocating violence towards this man, I do feel that the current laws really do not make it easy for the adequate punishment that we feel that he deserves.

you're approaching this (1)

nimbius (983462) | more than 2 years ago | (#34430960)

from the wrong side, once again. The FBI would have done better had they simply concluded that 1/3rd of the worlds spam comes from computers running unpatched and compromised Microsoft Windows operating systems and programs. Capitalism prevails again, and we dont blame corporations at fault for the mistakes and problems we see.

this is somewhat like saying 1/3rd of all funeral coffins come from one man who designed a flyer especially for people who smoke cigarettes.

all this russian gent has done is set to make a profit off our own stupidity.
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