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Kentucky Announces Creationism Theme Park

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the ride-the-dinosaur dept.

Government 648

riverat1 writes "On December first, Kentucky Governor Steve Beshear announced that a creationism theme park is expected to open in 2014. Park developers are seeking state tourism development incentives and could receive up to $37.5 million over a 10-year period. Gov. Steve Beshear said he does not believe the incentives would violate the principle of church-state separation because the 14-year-old tax incentives law wasn’t approved for the purpose of benefiting the Ark Encounter. The park will have a 500 foot replica of the Ark with live animals on it and a Tower of Babel explaining how races and languages developed. The park will be turned over to Answers in Genesis after it is built. They are a non-profit organization which may allow them to discriminate in hiring on the basis of religion."

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yay! (2)

igotmybfg (525391) | more than 3 years ago | (#34433964)

and i'm fucking going.

I wish Maude were alive to see this. (5, Funny)

snookerhog (1835110) | more than 3 years ago | (#34433978)

she would be proud

Re:I wish Maude were alive to see this. (0)

nbvb (32836) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434574)

Why, oh WHY don't I have moderator points today ?????

will it be built... (5, Funny)

snookerhog (1835110) | more than 3 years ago | (#34433996)

in 6 days?

Re:will it be built... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434500)

4000 years ago...

Universal Studios (1)

redemtionboy (890616) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434000)

As long as it doesn't end up like Flander's Bible land and is more like Universal Studios Islands of Adventure, then I'm for it!

i'm impressed (2)

jcombel (1557059) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434006)

first time a post made me knee-jerk donate to a lobby [au.org]

Re:i'm impressed (2, Interesting)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434626)

Assuming the organisation is being treated exactly the same as a secular one, I don't see the issue. In the same way that religion should get no special benefits (I know that religious groups do get some benefits over similar secular ones, and I'm strongly against that), it equally shouldn't be singled out as 'untouchable' by community funding.

Re:i'm impressed (4, Insightful)

DrgnDancer (137700) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434672)

I typically like Americans United, but I'm not sure I'd support a lawsuit here. The Governor makes a valid point, backed by several other organizations that are usually good Church/State watchdogs. The tourism development law doesn't care about the possible ulterior motives of the developers, or the validity of the science presented by the facility. It cares about the development of tourism, which seems likely to occur if this facility is built. Now if they turned around and *didn't* fund a non-Christian theme park which had similar projections for jobs and businesses, then there would be a problem... As it is, this seems like a valid application of the state's money, much though I disagree with the park's purpose.

hopefully (4, Insightful)

alphatel (1450715) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434012)

Now I can finally get the state to approve my Pastafarian noodle coaster with Scientology bumper cars

So what? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434022)

There are other fantasy theme parks, so why not this?

Re:So what? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434236)

Because this park doesn't claim to be fantasy.

Re:So what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434298)

*whooshing sound*

Re:So what? (1)

Foobar of Borg (690622) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434340)

There are other fantasy theme parks, so why not this?

Because they are seeking government incentives. If it were all privately built, we could point and laugh, but that would be the end of it. When they receive government backing, they are basically giving government support to Evangelical Protestant Fundamentalism.

Re:So what? (1)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434488)

To quote myself from slightly further up:

Assuming the organisation is being treated exactly the same as a secular one, I don't see the issue. In the same way that religion should get no special benefits (I know that religious groups do get some benefits over similar secular ones, and I'm strongly against that), it equally shouldn't be singled out as 'untouchable' by community funding.

Re:So what? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434504)

Because, even if this (tax rebates) were about wanting to create jobs. The jobs created will only be available to people with a specific religious background (taken from the AIG Creation Museum jobs page):

All job applicants need to supply a written statement of their testimony, a statement of what they believe regarding creation and a statement that they have read and can support the AiG statement of faith.

Any job creation for members of a specific religious background is not deserving of federal money, lest you violate the separation of church and state.

Handouts for the Rich (1, Offtopic)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434026)

ALL of the handouts by government are just Corporate Welfare. Whether it's for a park or football stadium or whatever new idea the corporations hatch. The working class is being forced to help the rich.

do it the right way (2)

Mantorp (142371) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434030)

Have one guy (and a few relatives) build it himself using 2000 BC technology, pack it with animals, and then see if it floats.

Re:do it the right way (1)

Nimey (114278) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434194)

...it's a duck?

Re:do it the right way (1)

DrgnDancer (137700) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434476)

No but it weighs the same as a duck.

To what extent (1)

inforichland (1946038) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434036)

will the religious nuts not stoop to in order to convince us heathens of their world views? Maybe we need to start a Science Theme Park...

Re:To what extent (2)

Mindcontrolled (1388007) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434148)

This is not about conversion of us heathens, I guess. This is just a part of the evangelical fundamentalist echo chamber. They probably don't even expect probable converts to go there, they expect True Believers(TM) to go there to reinforce their beliefs.

A science theme park would rock, though, sign me up!

Re:To what extent (2)

oldspewey (1303305) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434152)

1) Build the Science theme park next to Creationworld.
2) Start an ugly PR war
3) ?????
4) Creationworld is reduced to a glowing, gently smoking crater
5) Profit!!!!

Re:To what extent (2)

Mindcontrolled (1388007) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434284)

Well, with the science theme park right next to it, you could point the "nuclear science" and the "science of high-energy chemical compounds"-sections in a certain direction and have the kids do fun experiments which most certainly would help with turning Creationworld into Smoking Craterworld...

Re:To what extent (2)

thehostiles (1659283) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434178)

We don't need to. All modern theme parks are testaments to science.

I can't remember the last time I prayed a roller coaster with pyrotechnics into existence. Science and engineering on the other hand...

Re:To what extent (1)

oldspewey (1303305) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434208)

I can't remember the last time I prayed a roller coaster with pyrotechnics into existence.

You may not remember it, but it was last Saturday at 2:31AM while you were totally fucking tripping on acid.

Re:To what extent (1)

Mindcontrolled (1388007) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434336)

The resulting rollercoaster with the moebius looping that led to the klein bottle section sure made everyone vomit, though. And don't get me started on the 21-dimensional part. Not going back there, No Sir!

I hear a rumor... (5, Funny)

filesiteguy (695431) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434038)

...that the park actually evolved from lower forms of parks, each being incrementally better than the previous park.

It is just a rumor.

Re:I hear a rumor... (1)

billstewart (78916) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434248)

... And the governor's a dinosaur, so he got left behind on the ride...

Re:I hear a rumor... (2)

bluie- (1172769) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434510)

what? that's too hard to understand, so is therefore false.

Re:I hear a rumor... (1)

dgr73 (1055610) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434668)

That's a patent lie. The old swings, sandboxes and merry-go-rounds were put there by God to test our faith.

Why do they need $35mil? (1, Troll)

PORNorART (1949708) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434042)

Why can't God just create the park? I mean a theme park is a lot simpler than a whole race of people.

Maybe if God wanted a creationist theme park he would have created it himself?

Re:Why do they need $35mil? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434104)

He can't do everything!

Re:Why do they need $35mil? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434526)

He can't do everything!

Therefore you agree that He is not omnipotent and omnipresent??

Re:Why do they need $35mil? (1)

Winchestershire (1495475) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434238)

I asked a strongly Christian friend of mine this and his response was, "He already built us the Earth, and that it was his staff's (he was referring to humanity) job to build new rides." I'll give him credit, it was a strange yet creative response from a creationist.

I hate Kentucky (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434052)

What is more reasonable: that we organically evolved or something magical and mystical happened. Just sayin.

Re:I hate Kentucky (1)

tibman (623933) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434468)

hah, i'm sure there are well funded nuts in your state too : )

Re:I hate Kentucky (5, Funny)

eln (21727) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434534)

To be fair, there's no evidence at all that evolution has ever occurred in Kentucky.

Fair enough. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434078)

As a citizen of Kentucky, if this project gets even a dollar in tax cuts... I reserve my right to post signs on anything that reads:

"Creationism isn't science. It isn't even a theory. There is no scientific method involved. There is no empirical evidence. There is no verifiability. Proceed with caution".

Re:Fair enough. (1)

tibman (623933) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434576)

It is funny though. But why build that junk here? Is the land cheaper in KY than Ohio?

Hyuk! (1)

Caerdwyn (829058) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434082)

Hey, it's an underserved demographic. People who completely ignore science, hard evidence, and rational thought need entertainment too, and what the heck! They have money (somehow).

Re:Hyuk! (2)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434274)

Hey, it's an underserved demographic. People who completely ignore science, hard evidence, and rational thought need entertainment too, and what the heck!

What, are the cable news channels not good enough for these people??

Re:Hyuk! (4, Insightful)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434308)

They have money

If they had money the state wouldn't have to kick in $37 million.

Re:Hyuk! (1)

ThatMegathronDude (1189203) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434440)

Creationists may have their eyes closed to science, but they know how to screw people pretty well. Hell, they've been doing it for all of their supposed history (i.e. the bible).

Re:Hyuk! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434420)

They'll probably use technology based on science to build the attractions. I heard it works way better than technology based on magic and miracles.

Hell, no (5, Insightful)

KingSkippus (799657) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434088)

Not only had this better not see one red penny of taxpayer money, but any public official who says it doesn't violate separation of Church and State should be immediately impeached for not upholding protecting the Constitution.

If people want to build these things and run them with private money, even for a profit, I don't care. But the second you start taking my money to proselytize your religion, I get VERY agitated.

Re:Hell, no (-1)

filesiteguy (695431) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434258)

Actually, this wouldn't be a violation of the First Amendment. If you recall the text,

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

IOTW, there's no law being made here and no prohibition against any other religion other than Judeo-Chritianity in this. (I suppose Muslims are included also, since they read the old testament, I think.)

By the way, I agree it is a horrendous idea to include taxpayer dollars, just that it isn't unconstitutional. :P

Re:Hell, no (5, Informative)

Foobar of Borg (690622) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434560)

Actually, this wouldn't be a violation of the First Amendment. If you recall the text, Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; IOTW, there's no law being made here and no prohibition against any other religion other than Judeo-Chritianity in this. (I suppose Muslims are included also, since they read the old testament, I think.) By the way, I agree it is a horrendous idea to include taxpayer dollars, just that it isn't unconstitutional. :P

You fail Constitution Law 101. The key phrase is "respecting an establishment of religion". Allocating money to a theme park requires the use of legislation. If that legislation supports Fundie Evangelical Protestant Christianity, then it violates the first amendment. By giving tax money to the theme park, you would be giving preference to Fundie Evangelical Protestant Christianity over all other forms of Christianity (the literalist interpretation of Genesis being considered a bit bizarre and stupid, even in the early Church), Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and so on, and so on, and so on.

On the contrary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434660)

I'd like to see them receive tax money, not because I think they deserve it, but because I think you (the self-righteous voter) deserve it. You certainly approve of government taking money from other people to fund your interests, right? Even for things those people may be dead against and wouldn't ever choose to fund voluntarily, right?

Well, the road goes both ways. I'd absolutely love to see your money taken from you, by force, and distributed to other people for the purpose of serving their interests. Hopefully I'll get to watch you throw the hissy-fit as well.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. As for those of us who believe in strict limits on government power and revenue, we already know exactly how you feel.

Re:Hell, no (-1)

Anomalyx (1731404) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434708)

Any public official who thinks this does violate the Constitutional separation of Church and State should be slapped for failing to actually read and understand the Constitution. It's absolutely unbelievable what people believe about that document, despite it being available to anybody to read.

The phrase "separation of Church and State" does not exist in the Constitution. Go read it sometime. That phrase came from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to the Baptist Association of Danbury, Connecticut in 1802, which expressed that the "wall of separation between Church and State" was intended to be a one-way wall, keeping the government from making anti-religious laws. Unfortunately, it is exactly the opposite today. Government now oppresses religion freely.

If people want to push their religion of evolution (it's a religion... it has not been and cannot be absolutely PROVEN) with private money, even for a profit, I don't care. But the second you start taking my money to proselytize your religion, I get VERY agitated.

My point is that you're just one side of the coin. Perhaps the solution is neither heads nor tails, but rather to allow both to exist "outside the coin" - without stepping on each other's toes (or in this case, wallets. I don't want my money spent on your religion, and I fully respect you not wanting to spend money on mine).

Seriously though... (2)

eepok (545733) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434094)

I would love to go see this. I want to see how distant their representation is from the Bible and see if I can walk around without laughing/getting thrown out.

Re:Seriously though... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434206)

Actually if its being directed by the people of Answers in Genesis, it will be direct on with the Bible and not far from it. If you've been to the Creation Museum or read anything by Ken Ham you would know this.

Re:Seriously though... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434692)

Actually if its being directed by the people of Answers in Genesis, it will be direct on with the Bible and not far from it. If you've been to the Creation Museum or read anything by Ken Ham you would know this.

Who the fuck would go to the Creation Museum or read anything by Ken Ham? You're an ignorant redneck who needs to have a bullet put in you courtesy of the non-knuckle-dragging morons in society.

Re:Seriously though... (1)

tak amalak (55584) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434698)

" If you've been to the Creation Museum or read anything by Ken Ham you would know this."

What?! This is like saying, "If you've falling 2 stories on your head or ingested a gallon of anti-freeze you would know this."

Re:Seriously though... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434722)

So the dinosaur with a saddle was mentioned in the Bible?

Re:Seriously though... (1)

Mindcontrolled (1388007) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434246)

Indeed, indeed. I am as atheist as they get, but I actually do like the bible, at least in part. Heavy storytelling and full of insights into how people used to explain their world, how they retconned their history to reinforce certain ideologies - interesting stuff. I also happen to like theological thinking, if only as an intellectual glass pearl game. What really amuses me is how much of current fundamentalistic evangelical thought is outright heretic if measured against any true scholarly theology. And that's from the viewpoint of an atheist. I'd probably die laughing in there...

Our governor (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434096)

Our governor is a fucking moron.

We have some of the lowest unemployment rates, we certainly have the worst education (OBVIOUSLY), and our health is poor to say the least.

But instead of taking care of, you know, problems....

**sigh**

I'm moving to Canada. At least up there I can smoke my worries away.

You can help stop this horseshit (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434100)

Join FFRF [ffrf.org] .

New Kentucky State Motto (1)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434132)

Kentucky: Home of Bourbon, Fried Chicken and Idiots

Sadly... (4, Informative)

Dexter Herbivore (1322345) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434138)

Sadly... this isn't the first [wehaitians.com] . These sorts of parks have even been lampooned in Bill Maher's Religulous [imdb.com] .

Reminds me of Dinosaur Adventure Land (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434170)

The guy there didn't want to pay his taxes either.

Apparently God declined to show up at his hearing.

I'd invest in that (4, Insightful)

Weaselmancer (533834) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434188)

Hell yeah I would. Are they offering any stock?

PT Barnum says this park will be a hit.

Separation of church and state principle... (-1)

aristotle-dude (626586) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434212)

Does not mean what some of you think it means. All it does is prevent the state from establishing a state church like the Church of England and interfering with (disrupting) church activities and the free exercise of your freedom "of religion". There is no freedom from religion. Your rights do not extend into the lives of others. If you choose to be an atheist, that is you personal choice but you cannot impose that choice upon the rest of society, other individuals or restrict the free exercise of religion by anyone even if they are public officials. They still retain all of their personal rights and freedoms.

I'm not sure how I feel about this park and the use of tax payers funds but then again, I'm not sure if it is fair for the tyranny of the minority to always win over the majority. If the majority of tax payers are in favor of this, I don't see the problem. There is plenty of tax money spent on other things that are not necessarily for the benefit of all tax payers.

Re:Separation of church and state principle... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434338)

The first amendment prevents "respecting an establishment of religion" which has been widely interpreted as meaning that they can't spend taxpayer money on evangelism on some particular religion, which is exactly what this park is.

Re:Separation of church and state principle... (0)

clone52431 (1805862) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434516)

The first amendment says CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW respecting an establishment of religion.

So if this violates the constitution, what’s its house or senate bill number?

Re:Separation of church and state principle... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434562)

So it says, "Congress shall make no law". How does that apply to states using state tax money (not federal tax money). I hope it applies somehow because I would hate to see more people's money wasted on this type of fantasy - but I personally don't see how it applies if the actual amendment is about Congress and not about states.

Re:Separation of church and state principle... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434398)

So when a majority of people believe its okay to segregate schools - you're okay with that? I had hoped we had evolved enough to recognize that we need laws to protect minorities. Non-christians are a minority in this land - and we don't appreciate the use of tax dollars to fund christian mythology.

Re:Separation of church and state principle... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434472)

"All it does is prevent the state from establishing a state church"

Except that to favor a particular religious group over others is a de facto establishment. The majority of taxpayers cannot elect to have the state treasury tithe to a specific church; this is a recognized violation of separation.

Stupidity tax (1)

jfengel (409917) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434220)

The lottery and slot machines are even more clearly taxes on stupidity. If transferring money from the dim-witted to the state helps close budget gaps, I guess I'm reluctantly for it. You can't ban the stupidity itself, so maybe you can tax it into nonexistence. Or at least bankruptcy.

Bankruptcy for the individually stupid, unfortunately. For the parks, I'm sure it's immensely profitable, which profits they then turn into creating more stupidity ex nihilo. The perpetuum mobile of stupidity. A Von Neumann machine that passes the Anti-Turing Test of Artificial Idiocy.

Look at me... I'm reduced to just calling it names. It's such an obvious fallacy on the face of it that there's simply no way to reason with it; reason itself has been chucked as premise #1 of the argument. All I can do is fiddle while Rome burns, trying to keep myself amused while the barbarians build themselves amusement parks, reducing me to mixing my metaphors.

Neighbors (1)

confused one (671304) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434224)

I think this is fair... as long as we can build a dinosaur park next door, including skeletons, full sized animated replicas, and a museum that explaines, at length, the evolutionary timeline from Triassic to the modern chicken.

Re:Neighbors (1)

aristotle-dude (626586) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434306)

I think this is fair... as long as we can build a dinosaur park next door, including skeletons, full sized animated replicas, and a museum that explaines, at length, the evolutionary timeline from Triassic to the modern chicken.

Why do you need another one? A lot of tax payer money is already spent on exhibits such as what you describe.

Re:Neighbors (1)

rogabean (741411) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434394)

Well I'm not sure how close the two will be to each other but Kentucky does already have Dinosaur World.

The governor's talking it up (4, Insightful)

Nimey (114278) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434254)

How is that /not/ a violation of the separation of church and state?

Oh please oh please (5, Funny)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434260)

let it be built in a flood zone.

Kentucky wins - (1)

meerling (1487879) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434264)

It is now the official 'Most Ignorant State In the Union'. Next year they're going for 'Most Bigoted State'.

Mommy, where are the Fruitbats? (1)

JBBW (1951870) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434296)

I wonder if they are going to explain races using the "Curse of Canaan"? Chances are they will just gloss over that ugly story.

How about a muslim theme park? (1)

kaptink (699820) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434318)

I wonder if someone came up with the same thing but instead a muslim theme park, would they get the same government support? mmm.

Re:How about a muslim theme park? (1)

Mindcontrolled (1388007) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434408)

Now give me a volunteer to start Muslimworld and then sue for discrimination when he does not get government support. I'll get the popcorn and watch the fireworks...

i would worry abour speration of brain... (1)

thbigr (514105) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434344)

What is going on here is the separation of brain and common sense.

Why (2)

Nihn (1863500) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434432)

So people are fine with the propagation of ridiculous lies to the degree of building a shrine to it? Really? Why is it that people with imaginary friends are treated like they are...I mean I know it's not nice to pick on people with mental difficulties but there has to be a limit to what they are allowed to do. It's not in progressions best interest to keep putting money and time into a fantasy, the concept of faith is buried deeply in the stigma of human ignorance. Having a tough life? Well, believe in a lie and make it all better. Don't worry if you are called on the lie, you can just say they will burn in hell for suggesting you are simple minded. And now on top of the thousands of tax free churches that occupy every street corner you can have a family day out with other delusional people making it that much easier to get your children into the cult. And yes, all faith is defined as cult behavior.....look it up...and not on wikipedia, out of an actual dictionary.

"Allow then to discriminate"... really? (2)

TheSpoom (715771) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434436)

They are a non-profit organization which may allow them to discriminate in hiring on the basis of religion.

Citation please? I may be a crazy liberal Canadian living in the US but I gotta think that even in Kentucky, discrimination based on religion must be illegal. Right?

Re:"Allow then to discriminate"... really? (1)

rogabean (741411) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434490)

We have "loopholes" for everything here.

Re:"Allow then to discriminate"... really? (2)

clone52431 (1805862) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434592)

Churches are non-profits and most of them are pretty discriminating when it comes to who they hire as their pastor. Usually it goes that to get hired as their pastor, you have to be exactly the same religion as them and agree with them on pretty much everything.

Re:"Allow then to discriminate"... really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434674)

So it should be illegal for a mosque to refuse to hire a Catholic priest as their imam? I'm just not getting your argument.

Would love to see the original (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434474)

A *replica* of the Ark?

Family Guy (1)

baresi (950718) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434482)

Will they be showing Carl Sagan's Cosmos for Rednecks edition on large screens?

I didn't know that... (1)

sammysheep (537812) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434568)

Kentucky had tourism. :-) I do however like their scenery as I have driven from Ohio to Florida or Atlanta.

Lot's Family (1)

crow_t_robot (528562) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434582)

Are they going to be performing live shows recreating events like when Lot's daughters got him shit-faced so they could have sex with him to impregnate themselves since they had to leave behind their boyfriends in Sodom? If so, COUNT ME IN, FELLOW CHRISTIANS!

Speculative? (1)

jdelisle (582839) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434590)

"Gov. Steve Beshear said he does not believe the incentives would violate the principle of church-state separation ... which may allow them to discriminate in hiring on the basis of religion."

You are speculating on a couple of the most important pieces of the article. Perhaps this story conflicts with your beliefs and is clouding the objectivity of your post.

Religious clap-trap (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434604)

This is what I posted as a comment on that ark site's blog. It seems that they want to select what comments are posted, and I doubt my comment will be. Odd that they don't trust god to stop the "bad" messages...

Can't you see that religion is a tool used to control others? And with that control comes money, power, and access to members of the opposite sex. Yes, it's all about biology. Unless you are a catholic priest[1].

The details of silly little stories, like the ark, are there to detract from the realities of the world. Whilst people are bickering over details and meanings of bible stories they are not paying attention to what those at the top of society are doing.

So give up on religion, it is all based on dodgy logic anyway - we can't prove there isn't a god, so there must be one. Yeah, and because you can't see where I parked my car, it must be on the far side of the moon. Give up on just staring at the TV for hours everyday, get out there are speak to people. Use your brains, and always question everything. Why do people do things? Always ask, never take anything as true just because an authority figure says so.

The most dangerous elements in society will always be drawn to positions of authority, and they will be prepared to cheat and back-stab to get to the top. So ultimately, most people in positions of authority are corrupt to some degree.

[1] I don't want to discriminate. Other churches are full of child abusers too!

What's the name of the theme park? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34434606)

Idiocracy?

interestingly enough, I have no issue with it. (1)

Biggseye (1520195) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434612)

Interestingly enough I have no issue with this happening. They have the right to attempt to create this theme park. Why would the fact it is based on the creation myth of the Judo-christian religion be of any significance? Last I read the Constitution of the United States, the 1st amendment states "Freedom of Religion" not "Freedom FROM Religion". There is a modern Myth that there is a separation of church and state in the constitution. It does not exist, If you think it does, please show me the word "separate" in the first amendment. Read the constitution from the point of view of how the people that wrote it used the language, not how you interpret it. Languages change, work meanings change, the intent of the founders and writers does not. That being said I want you to understand that I am not a religious person, i do not subscribe to any form of religion. All religion is a man made creation to explain where the world comes from and how it works. I like to call myself a Duncar. That is a really short for I Don't care. I don't think the government should care one way or the other. If they want to create a theme park based on Judo-Christian myth, go ahead. If they want to apply for money from development funds, please go right ahead. why should anyone care. It does not matter to me at all. It does not matter to them that i will not be visiting it, or that you who so easily scoff at religion will not be visiting it. They are making it for people that will go there. I have never visited any Disney theme park, I just do not care to. So should Disney not be allowed to build or apply for funds? No. my beliefs or lack there of is not reliant, neither is yours. Are they proposing violence? how about anarchy? overthrow of the Government? Last I looked it was OK to believe in anything you wanted to as long as it was not detrimental to others or a violation of the law.

Laws? (1)

khr (708262) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434636)

...he does not believe the incentives would violate the principle of church-state separation because the 14-year-old tax incentives law wasn’t approved for the purpose of benefiting the Ark Encounter

Huh? Does that mean we can violate laws if they weren't specifically meant for benefit of what we're doing?

Re:Laws? (1)

clone52431 (1805862) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434730)

No, those laws are not being violated at all.

Science Museums= 0 Creation Museums=Two (1)

Kylere (846597) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434656)

Northern kentucky will now have two myth based museums and ZERO science museums. Pretty much what I expect from people that voted Rand Paul into office.

Replica? (1)

duranaki (776224) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434686)

Don't you have to know what the original of something looks like to even make a replica?

I live close to the Museum (1)

mattwrock (1630159) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434696)

The creation museum is not far from Cincinnati, in Northern Kentucky. The seriously messed up thing is that they use DINOSAURS to promote the creation Museum. I am guessing they will use scientists to promote the theme park.

Disney World (1)

kehren77 (814078) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434718)

Awesome, another theme park filled with imaginary characters.

Maybe (1)

ThatsNotPudding (1045640) | more than 3 years ago | (#34434734)

Maybe it's finally time to Divide that House...
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