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Playstation Phone "Zeus" Revealed

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the two-birds-one-rock dept.

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tekgoblin writes with this excerpt from Tekgoblin: "A video has surfaced on YouTube which shows the new Playstation Phone now called the Zeus. Rumors had surfaced that the phone would be announced on December 9th but with this leak the rumors have now been made fact. The phone is called the Sony Ericsson ZEUS (Playstation Phone). The demo video shows the phone running Android 2.3 codename Gingerbread. The video also shows the phone with the standard Playstation buttons along with a touch pad in the center. The controller for the phone is placed normally where a physical keyboard would be."

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Prices and locked down? (2, Interesting)

iamhassi (659463) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455228)

All I want to know is how much the games will be, and since it's running Android will everyone be able to make games for this or will it be locked down in some manner?

Re:Prices and locked down? (3)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455334)

looks like it's an android phone with a psp emulator app. No doubt it will be locked down and you'll need to buy psp games through a Sony psp app store.

Re:Prices and locked down? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34456116)

fuck your psp store you fucking apple appstore wanna-be. they innovate, you copycat. they > you. dumbass fucking niggers.

Re:Prices and locked down? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34456674)

looks like it's an android phone with a psp emulator app.

No, it looks like a stupid piece of shit.

besides a few 10-year-olds, who the hell would want that gameboy-esque piece of junk?!

Re:Prices and locked down? (2, Interesting)

headhot (137860) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455450)

Andriod will probably only be the boot OS. The games will run on the custom hardware. Sort of like the Sega Dreamcast, running on WindowsCE. The games were not windows games.

Re:Prices and locked down? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34455696)

The Dreamcast didn't use Windows CE as its boot OS. A handful of games were ported using a version of WinCE, but its boot OS and the vast majority of its catalogue used Sega's own libraries. The couple of dozen or so that did use it were mostly shovelware or ports of games from the previous generation of consoles.

Re:Prices and locked down? (1)

TrancePhreak (576593) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455970)

Actually, I believe the main interface was written in Windows CE, but you are right.. That was just running on top of the hardware (not a main part of the system), like most games. Worms Armageddon actually used WinCE, but it suffered because of it.

Re:Prices and locked down? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34457236)

Sega Rally 2 was hardly shovelware.

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It is SONY (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34455680)

Sony has a long history of illegally harming their own customers (rootkits on audio CDs) and general consumer hostility (engineered incompatibility, price gouging, etc).

There is no good reason to buy anything from Sony.

Re:Prices and locked down? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34455872)

All I want to know is how much the games will be, and since it's running Android will everyone be able to make games for this or will it be locked down in some manner?

It's pretty basic, really. It runs Android. You'll be able to put Android apps on it. It also has a PlayStation app which will in almost all certainty turn it into something very similar to a PSP Go, complete with PSN game downloads.

Re:Prices and locked down? (5, Interesting)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456380)

Question: Why exactly would you WANT this? I mean really? All the OEMs have been "pulling an Apple" and trying to make the thinnest sliver of a battery known to man, and if this thing has even halfway decent graphics it WILL pull the juice, so why in the name of all that is good would you want the ability to make a call tied to whether or not you had been gaming?

I can just imagine the kinds of conversation owners that would have this will be having, stuff like "Sorry dear I didn't get that call about your mom being rushed to the hospital, but I was playing "Super Crash Bandicoot Bust a Nut 4" and totally ran the battery dead, sorry". I mean it isn't the smartest idea to tie a device you need and use every. single. day. and have its functionality depend on whether or not you played some shooter on lunch break.

So I'm sorry but I just don't get it. It would be different if they would put a big beefy battery on the thing so you could get a solid 12 hours of use out of it whether you gamed or not, but we all know that wouldn't make it sleek and sexy, so instead they'll put a little sliver battery that will be lucky to get 4 hours, and that is only if your game isn't any more graphic intensive than Tetris. Any heavier on the GPU and this thing will go through power like shit through a goose and who wants to spend their day either looking for a plug in or carrying a charger in your pocket just so you can make and receive phone calls? While this whole "convergence" thing is cool in theory, until we get some better battery tech or the OEMs admit that devices with a lot of functions need real batteries instead of iSlivers I just don't see the usefulness in it. Maybe you can enlighten me?

Re:Prices and locked down? (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456752)

The worst part is, I bet that even if someone managed to make a safe, portable nuclear reactor the size of an AA battery, companies wouldn't use it because it's not thin enough.

Re:Prices and locked down? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34457902)

Smartphones already last less than a day under any kind of usage. This means that people who use them have learned to adapt. Most people can find a way to charge there phone at work. I keep a USB cable for my phone at work and that works perfectly. So when i return from playing on my lunchbreak i plug in and if my wife calls to say her mother is being rushed to the hospital that is fine because when i answer i am fully charged. To many people on slashdot keep talking this nonsense about "a phone that is just good at making calls". Guess what most of the population dont want that. I spend at most 10minutes a month actually speaking on my cellphone. Everything else is text or chat.

So yes i want convergence. I want my phone to do absolutely anything and everything that any peice of portable electronics can do. I want this because im not batman and i dont wear a utility belt in order to hold a cellphone, gps, mp3 player, portable video player, camera, psp, eReader, graphing calculator,flashlight, laptop and wireless card for it. Hell i want to be able to hook up electrodes to my phone and have it act as a digital multimeter and a portable oscilloscope as well as an EMF meter, digital thermometer, Sound level meter, light meter and spectroscope.

I also want this megaphone to be as thin as possible. I want this so i dont have a huge, non phallus shaped bulge in my pocket or massive thing on my belt messing up my silhouette and decreasing the likelihood of females wanting to have sex with me. I know this concept in particular is difficult for the slashdot horde to grasp.

It is considerably less cumbersome and less expensive to carry 1 smartphone and if you are really worried about battery life an extra battery or usb cable.

The cellphone that just makes calls died with saved by the bell.

Re:Prices and locked down? (5, Funny)

walshy007 (906710) | more than 3 years ago | (#34457990)

I want this because im not batman

decreasing the likelihood of females wanting to have sex with me.

Something tells me, both of these problems could be solved by simply becoming batman.

Re:Prices and locked down? (1)

Bitmanhome (254112) | more than 3 years ago | (#34458064)

There can only be one Batman. And you have to kill all the other Batmans to become The One Batman.

Although, I might be thinking of some other movie.

Re:Prices and locked down? (1)

bemymonkey (1244086) | more than 3 years ago | (#34457928)

I've gotten rid of most of my separate devices (DAP, nav unit and so on) and now only carry an Android smartphone and a battery pack (About 20Wh)... gives me about 3 full phone charges). It's much less to carry, and having one device that does it all just gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside ;)

It's doable. :)

Re:Prices and locked down? (1)

MorpheousMarty (1094907) | more than 3 years ago | (#34458334)

I'll ignore all your condescension and answer simply:

You value call time/quality highly, which obviously won't be the strong suit of this phone. I'm interested because I value gaming highly, and nothing can replace a full gamepad for that. I don't make a lot of calls, if I miss a call they can leave a voicemail, even if I am playing a game.

Re:Prices and locked down? (1)

B1oodAnge1 (1485419) | more than 3 years ago | (#34458396)

But if you *really* valued gaming highly wouldn't you want to use a device that was designed for gaming without having a phone tacked on as a clunky extra feature?

Re:Prices and locked down? (1)

DrXym (126579) | more than 3 years ago | (#34458340)

I agree it would be nice if smart phones lasted longer before charges but the way they are now is still useful. A single device that does music, vids, phone, internet, games, PIM, apps etc. on a charge that lasts a day or two is still better than carrying around a whole bunch of different devices.

Re:Prices and locked down? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34458366)

Well, the power supply cable is actually quite portable, so is an extra battery.

This could actually be surprisingly awesome (5, Insightful)

AdmiralXyz (1378985) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455248)

Based on App Store and Marketpace sales, I think people are itching to have a phone that doubles as a gaming device, but there's nothing that scratches that itch perfectly yet. The iPhone doesn't do the trick because it has no physical controls (touch- and accelerometer-based games are great for some genres, but lousy for many others), and Android's game library is still pretty lame.

Of course, if anyone can screw this up, it's Sony. Their recent track record with both phones (Ericsson, ick) and portable gaming (PSPGo, double ick) is not great, so trying to do both at once could be a big bag of fail.

Still, I'll be paying close attention.

Re:This could actually be surprisingly awesome (1)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455344)

counterpoint: n-gage.

Re:This could actually be surprisingly awesome (3, Insightful)

auLucifer (1371577) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455486)

Good point. Nokia screwed it up too

Re:This could actually be surprisingly awesome (1)

lennier1 (264730) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456418)

Exactly.
A console is a product that's supposed to stay on the market for several years. OTOH most people don't want to buy a cell phone whose technology is a year older than what the competition offers.

Re:This could actually be surprisingly awesome (1)

JavaBear (9872) | more than 3 years ago | (#34457188)

N-Gage never did have the number of titles available to it that the PSP already have.

The question then becomes, are titles purchased on the PSN store transferable to another "PSP" unit, be it the dedicated ones, or next years PSPhone?

Re:This could actually be surprisingly awesome (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34458326)

The Nokia N-gage screwed up because Nokia tried to make a phone "that can game" not the other way around.

I'm actually fairly confident that Nintendo could make a better "game device that is also a phone" seeing as it pretty much does that already short of an actual UMTS radio.

Re:This could actually be surprisingly awesome (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34455406)

I don't know, the Xperia X10 Mini and Mini Pro are pretty nice little phones.

Whatever the case, I still want this PSP phone. I don't care about any of that social media crap or gang of useless apps on the other phones. I just want a phone that will talk, play music and play real games.

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Re:This could actually be surprisingly awesome (1)

EdIII (1114411) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455812)

Of course, if anyone can screw this up, it's Sony.

True Dat.

What I am wondering is if Sony picked the name Zeus. That would be particularly funny to me since Pandora was a punishment against all men for stealing fire (technology) from Zeus via Prometheus. So will we be forced to use a Pandora battery to "steal" our technology from Zeus yet again?

Pandora gaming PDA (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455938)

So will we be forced to use a Pandora battery to "steal" our technology from Zeus yet again?

No, we will be forced to use a Pandora gaming PDA [openpandora.org] , provided they can make them fast enough (not likely).

Re:This could actually be surprisingly awesome (1)

black3d (1648913) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455960)

I hope that they're using the name Ericsson simply due to the fact it's Sony's own phone brand, rather than this device being comparative to any previous Ericsson devices. I have always found them lacking. :( However, like a sucker, I frequently end up with them due to the Sony association. Certainly - this will be no different. I MUST HAVE ONE!

Re:This could actually be surprisingly awesome (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34457306)

Of course, if anyone can screw this up, it's Sony.

I still remember, just over two years ago, Sony pushed out a PlayStation Store update and raised the prices of PSP downloaded titles to above the price of the physical retail copies. It's within Sony to fail.

Re:This could actually be surprisingly awesome (1)

DrXym (126579) | more than 3 years ago | (#34458050)

Of course, if anyone can screw this up, it's Sony. Their recent track record with both phones (Ericsson, ick) and portable gaming (PSPGo, double ick) is not great, so trying to do both at once could be a big bag of fail.

Sony can screw this up simply by not licensing the PSP brand to other handset manufacturers. A single handset model from a single manufacturer which may end up on a limited number of networks / payplans is never, ever in a million years going to compete with gaming options available for iPhone, Windows Phone or even Android. I realise Android has crappy gaming support (no cloud services for gaming), but I don't believe that Google don't have plans to rectify this.

Sony have a very limited window to convince a other handset manufacturers, and Google that Playstation is the best way to extend the Android platform with gaming functionality. If they don't do that then this thing is a deadend. It might sell well as a handset but it isn't an industry changer.

Awesome games! (1)

Chelmet (1273754) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455270)

That game looks awesome! Did you see the open/close manoeuver? I can just imagine the *snick* as it hits full extension.

Finally, a game I can play on my N900

Heard it before. (2)

Pyrus.mg (1152215) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455284)

Sure it can run Linux... for now.

Re:Heard it before. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34455662)

You'd have to be outta your gourd to buy anything from SONY at this point in the game. I'm firmly focused on the alternatives from companies looking to participate in a competitive market, and SONY can go straight to hell.

Nice video. Silent, but (mostly) clear and sharp.. (3, Insightful)

denzacar (181829) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455316)

Now show me one where this smug bastard [nowgamer.com] eats crow. Preferably a live crow.
CmdrTaco can join him. [slashdot.org]

Re:Nice video. Silent, but (mostly) clear and shar (1)

BRock97 (17460) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456048)

Except that it showed nothing. All I saw was a slider running Android with a d-pad and buttons where the keyboard should be. There wasn't even an analog pad.

Listen, I don't want to be a pessimist but until video footage surfaces that had some form of gaming content, I wouldn't get too excited yet. The really pessimistic side of me wonders if someone didn't dummy up an Android app and called it "Playstation". I'll ignore that little voice for the time being though.

The nerd in me would like you to keep that plate of crow warm. The concept looks cool (except they better have some form of analog control) so now show me the substance to seal the deal.

Re:Nice video. Silent, but (mostly) clear and shar (1)

Facegarden (967477) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456136)

Except that it showed nothing. All I saw was a slider running Android with a d-pad and buttons where the keyboard should be. There wasn't even an analog pad.

Listen, I don't want to be a pessimist but until video footage surfaces that had some form of gaming content, I wouldn't get too excited yet. The really pessimistic side of me wonders if someone didn't dummy up an Android app and called it "Playstation". I'll ignore that little voice for the time being though.

The nerd in me would like you to keep that plate of crow warm. The concept looks cool (except they better have some form of analog control) so now show me the substance to seal the deal.

The analog control is in the form of the multi-touch thumb bar, which appears to have two nubs to help position your thumbs. Might work alright (i hope).
This device would be hard to fake. That's a lot of components to fabricate even to make the outside. And it does appear to be the unreleased Android 2.3, so really only a manufacturer would be able to have that yet.
So I guess some *other* company could be making a phone that looks like this and someone could pretend it's a Sony device, but that seems unlikely.

Re:Nice video. Silent, but (mostly) clear and shar (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 3 years ago | (#34457818)

The analog control is in the form of the multi-touch thumb bar, which appears to have two nubs to help position your thumbs. Might work alright (i hope).

Not a sort of control I'd like. This sort of thing detects movement adequately but not brilliantly and is no good for precision control. The position is the centre of your thumb. That's a large area so very coarse.

Re:Nice video. Silent, but (mostly) clear and shar (1)

Facegarden (967477) | more than 3 years ago | (#34457864)

The analog control is in the form of the multi-touch thumb bar, which appears to have two nubs to help position your thumbs. Might work alright (i hope).

Not a sort of control I'd like. This sort of thing detects movement adequately but not brilliantly and is no good for precision control. The position is the centre of your thumb. That's a large area so very coarse.

Yeah, it's certainly a compromise. Likely a big one. But I never did like even the low profile analog sticks on the PSP, so I'm not sure what they'd be able to do that was much better without it being enormous.

Hopefully the rest of it is good and they don't screw it all up like they usually do. If anything I'm just excited for the prospect of improved interest in android gaming.
-Taylor

Re:Nice video. Silent, but (mostly) clear and shar (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456508)

Except that it showed nothing. All I saw was a slider running Android with a d-pad and buttons where the keyboard should be. There wasn't even an analog pad.

Seriously, what a waste of time that video was! Open the phone to show the D-pads. Close it, show the Android home screen. Flip it over to show the Sony Ericcson brand. rinse, repeat 4-5 times. Based on that video, we have no clue whether it can run any game at all - heck, can it even launch a game? Can it even launch an Android app, since we didn't see that either? For all I could tell, that "Android" homescreen could've just been a jpeg screenshot from some other, real, Android phone.

I can see the legislation now... (2)

AllWorkAndNoPlay (1952586) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455336)

We are going to need to outlaw playing GT5 while driving. Word has it, playing video games while behind the wheel may distract some drivers.

Re:I can see the legislation now... (1, Interesting)

zach_the_lizard (1317619) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455540)

Why invent all these special-case laws? Jjust charge them with negligence or something. Maybe invent a distracted driving law?

Re:I can see the legislation now... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34455844)

That makes too much sense. You'd get nowhere in politics.

You'd have my vote though.

Re:I can see the legislation now... (1)

Sethumme (1313479) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455952)

Exactly. If there is no issue that some bank-rolled special interest group can get behind, then the law has to be about blaming some specific action or product -- not making citizens responsible for their own behavior. The voting masses don't like being told to use common sense.

Re:I can see the legislation now... (2, Funny)

neoprint (949158) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456228)

Yo dawg...

carrier locked? forced data plan? GSM? CDM? (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455390)

carrier locked? forced data plan? GSM? CDM?

Re:carrier locked? forced data plan? GSM? CDM? (2)

Shikaku (1129753) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455396)

In this day and age, of course to the first 2.

Re:carrier locked? forced data plan? GSM? CDM? (1)

Xugumad (39311) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455674)

I'm sure you'll be able to buy an unlocked version of the phone, but don't expect too much change from $1k from it (any more than you would from buying an unlocked iPhone 4 - I'm aware they're not available in the US, but the UK edition is £500/$800 or more inc tax).

Direct Youtube Links (5, Informative)

pavon (30274) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455394)

Tekgoblin was very slow to load for me, so here are some direct links to the YouTube Videos in case the site gets slashdoted.
Video 1 [youtube.com]
Video 2 [youtube.com]

Re:Direct Youtube Links (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34455730)

Naturally. "tekgoblin writes with this excerpt from Tekgoblin" -- cool $7/m Bluehost site, bro. Why oh why do the editors allow self-promotion, blog links, and indirect sources?

Re:Direct Youtube Links (1)

tekgoblin (1675894) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455986)

The site is not hosted at Bluehost only the DNS records are :)

Re:Direct Youtube Links (1)

symbolset (646467) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456172)

Actually if you have a lot of domains on Bluehost, it's more like $10/yr each. Very affordable, and great service.

Re:Direct Youtube Links (1)

pinkushun (1467193) | more than 3 years ago | (#34458208)

OT Rant: Days like these I wish that work did not block youtube. All from those damn implementers who abused it all day long. Grrrr :/

Same name as a botnet? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34455416)

Funny, the first thing that came through my mind when I read the name was the Zeus botnet. Is the PS phone (oh god, it also abbreviates as PSP) going to be a botnet client by default?

N-Gage, anyone? (1)

rekenner (849871) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455524)

We clearly didn't want a gaming phone then, but do we want it now?
Will digital distribution and the increased processing power available make the difference?
I'll admit. Part of me wants to see Sony fall on its ass - But I also want to see Android succeed.

Re:N-Gage, anyone? (5, Insightful)

Xugumad (39311) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455666)

The N-Gage was a badly designed device that was neither a good phone, or gaming device. Side-talking was absurd looking, and put many people off the phone. The needs to remove the battery to switch games also did not help it.

The Zeus may not be perfect (especially as the PSP is exactly new, any more), but at least should launch as a phone that looks like a phone, with a good sized game catalogue.

Re:N-Gage, anyone? (1)

aztracker1 (702135) | more than 3 years ago | (#34457426)

Honestly, I'd be as happy with a dpad on the left and a qwerty keypad to the right... Though with swype, a physical keypad is less important... the trouble is, I don't trust Sony, and haven't spent a dime on them in nearly a decade...

Re:N-Gage, anyone? (2)

DrXym (126579) | more than 3 years ago | (#34458352)

The Zeus seems to have a fairly unconventional form factor except that instead of having a slide out keyboard it has a slide out game pad. It makes the device a little chunky but otherwise nothing extradordinary.

The biggest issues I see it facing is how much the games cost for it. And how the PSP brand can survive if it is tied to a single android phone model from a single manufacturer. The PSP 1 platform asted 5 years (and is still limping along). Phones don't last a year before something better comes along, so what are Sony's long term plans here? What happens if Google launches a gaming platform for example.

Again? (1)

Scrapz (1941854) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455526)

I remember reading articles about this a couple of months ago, complete with pictures. It was soon told to be fake, and the pictures were photoshopped. Is this the same thing but with an elaborate video-shop?

Re:Again? (1, Offtopic)

tekgoblin (1675894) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455568)

How the hell do you video-shop this?

Video on Youtube (1)

metrix007 (200091) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455544)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfypiLFvMyY [youtube.com]

Looks interesting

See metrix007 the troll run instead (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34458294)

http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1888084&cid=34378092 metrix007: You're a troll that ran when he was confronted on his trolling there in that URL I just put up, because you weren't able to dispute and disprove what was posted and you were asked to. You talk a big game metrix007, but you can't even show anyone here that you've done more than those you called "ignorant and misinformed" in that URL above. Grow up and do something with your life, before you try to play "expert" with anyone here or elsewhere that have (which is what you tried above, and you ran, lol!). You're FAR from being able to judge others on technical expertise pal, above all else, just based on your trolling and running in the URL above I just posted.

Phones and consoles? (1)

Windwraith (932426) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455670)

Anyone remembers the Nokia N-gage? 'nuff said.

Re:Phones and consoles? (1)

RazorSharp (1418697) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455798)

Anyone remembers the Nokia N-gage? 'nuff said.

The tech just wasn't there with the N-gage. It was a neat idea, but it came out at the wrong time. I don't see this Playstation phone becoming the next big thing with sales rivaling the iPhone, but I don't see any reason why it won't be able to find its niche, especially amongst teenagers.

Re:Phones and consoles? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34456016)

Remember it? It still exists! [wikipedia.org] But it's an old platform and the technology has matured. It seems more that it was you who has lost sight of what was going on there.

Re:Phones and consoles? (1)

Windwraith (932426) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456602)

Stop derailing my attempts at discussion you internet person!

Youtube link in summary (1)

DuranDuran (252246) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455774)

Perhaps one day the technology will be invented to link the words "A video has surfaced on YouTube" to the actual video on Youtube. In the meantime, here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6cxaVRs60w [youtube.com]

There was a PSP emulator for Android... (1)

Kenja (541830) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455842)

Cant find it off hand now, but there was a PSP (original playstation 1) emulator for the Android phones floating around a while ago. This makes me wonder if it was an internal app leaked from sony. Regardless, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that it wont be too long for the official PSP app to make it out into the wild.

Re:There was a PSP emulator for Android... (2)

rekenner (849871) | more than 3 years ago | (#34455956)

The correct initializations for the first playstation are: PS1, PSX. PSP = Playstation Portable.

Re:There was a PSP emulator for Android... (1)

Atomic Fro (150394) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456332)

I don't think PSX [wikipedia.org] means what you think it means.

Re:There was a PSP emulator for Android... (1)

Tukz (664339) | more than 3 years ago | (#34457856)

It means exactly what he thinks it does (unofficially)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSX [wikipedia.org]

The PlayStation 1 is very often referred to as PSX, so in this context, PSX means PS1.

Re:There was a PSP emulator for Android... (1)

wintermute000 (928348) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456034)

Exactly, if sony had ANY brains at all they would make it 100% PSX compatible and provide some sort of dual thumbstick or equivalent button controls.
Even easier with PSP re: control layout, but needs better hardware I'm guessing + more work has been done re: emulating PSX as opposed to PSP.
Still being the manufacturer there is no reason why they can't create some sort of shrunken clone for the original PSX for 100% compatibility. Surely the tech is there.

From what I've seen on my now pitiful Nexus 1 the gpu is well above that of PSX and yes there are emulators, I think the latest droids can run a lot of PSX games emulated no worries.

Instant massive game library for relatively low cost. Heck make is super attractive by bundling games or say DL coupons good for 6 titles or whatever. I know I'd rather take the entire PSX/PSP back library over the current iOS offerings

Re:There was a PSP emulator for Android... (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456158)

provide some sort of dual thumbstick

I think that's what those two dots are... optical "mice"?

Re:There was a PSP emulator for Android... (1)

wintermute000 (928348) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456182)

yeah not totally sold on that but I guess you'd have to try it for yourself to make an accurate judgement.

Might be a physical limitation, can't think of how you'd fit a physical joystick into a slider, and most people wouldn't want an exposed joystick setup on their phone, also the size increase too.

Re:There was a PSP emulator for Android... (1)

MrDoh! (71235) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456176)

Makes total sense, all it needs is the dual shock controllers (and it looks like there could be space for it).
Sony probably won't do the sensible thing here alas.

Re:There was a PSP emulator for Android... (2)

wintermute000 (928348) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456210)

yeah maybe even make the dualshock a separate accessory. Heck you can pair a PS3 dualshock with droids already, why not make a variant with a phone mount, and make the connectivity 100% perfect / seamless.

I wouldn't mind having to carry around a separate pad if it means its a fullsized grip

Wonder how locked down this device will be (1)

mlts (1038732) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456004)

I wonder how locked down this device will be. Will it deny sideloading like Android devices on AT&T, or will it completely deny access via the ADB mechanism?

I'd consider buying it if it was easily rooted (Android's antipiracy mechanism is completely separate from the presence/absence of root, unlike iOS.) However, if it was so locked down that an adb shell command was an impossibility, I'd just mark the phone as unsuitable for human consumption and continue on.

Now... (2)

inglishmayjer (1417713) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456120)

if only I had friends to call.

Re:Now... (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456816)

That's the beauty of this phone! If you don't have anyone to call you can play game online with your friends!

Oh, never mind.

What?? (1)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456180)

a leak not related with Wikileaks and not hunted down by the State Dept? Must be a fake or somethin'!

TFS: ... but with this leak the rumors have now been made fact

Obvious reason (4, Informative)

The_mad_linguist (1019680) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456250)

It isn't actually called Zeus. That's just the codename for the Prototype.

Z??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34456310)

Zeus? It's like my Zune, right?

Why can't my Zune work with this?

It hasn't worked since the leap year bug.

So which platform gets abandoned? (4, Interesting)

grapeape (137008) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456378)

My guess is the original PSP will stay zombified as it has been since a year or so after launch. The go is still fairly new but I cant see Sony maintaining 2 different handheld non-compatable systems, but you know that Sony isn't going to put out an android device that isn't locked down and wouldn't go through them for content...greed is too strong with that one.

Game prices? (1)

anethema (99553) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456638)

iOS is a huge booming platform for games, which dwarfs pretty much everything.

The main reason is obviously some decent games, ability to have games RFN, and of course, the 1-5$ pricing.

I could see the Playstation phone having the first two,but the last? Not sure how well it will compete if it can't live up to the iPhone/Android pricing model. I certainly wouldn't move from paying $1-5 for some suprisingly good games, to $30.

Not the best evidence. (1)

tycoex (1832784) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456712)

Honestly this is just a video of an Android phone with a typical d-pad and 4 face buttons instead of a keyboard slide-out. Every single game company (more or less) has used the 4 button scheme since the snes. Even the computer gamepads you can buy from logitech look exactly like a dualshock controller. There's no reason to believe this isn't just an Android phone with a playstation emulator on it. That would be good enough for me anyways. The only thing that keeps my using my psp instead of a smartphone is that my phone doesn't have real buttons. This would be perfect to load all my emulators on.

Where is the (1)

nikanth (1066242) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456772)

analog stick?

No XMB?! (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 3 years ago | (#34456916)

XMB is one of the best device interfaces I've used second to iOS and they're not skinning 2.3 to use XMB?

Fuck them.

Android on PS3? (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 3 years ago | (#34457054)

Now that the PS3 has been jailbroken, both restoring OtherOS to any PS3 and cracking the Hypervisor for OtherOS app access to RSX, VRAM and all 7 Cell SPUs, I wonder whether Android would be a better OS than Linux for the PS3. Even with the jailbreak, the PS3 has only 256MB RAM ( + 256MB VRAM) for apps, which makes it a lot more like a mobile phone than a PC - despite all its other differences. If Android is going to run apps developed for a "Playstation Phone", maybe those apps would be a better library for PS3 than the Linux apps that largely will not run in the small RAM available on PS3. And since now the only basic OS component missing on PS3 is an RSX video driver that will have to be written, maybe it would be better to write the driver for Android than for Linux.

You insen!siTive clod! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34457200)

ransOm for their nearly two years

You fAIL it (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34457340)

guesTs. SOme people lead to 'cleaner

It crashed (1)

AC-x (735297) | more than 3 years ago | (#34458220)

I like how, in the youtube video, the phone crashes as soon as the keypad is slid out. Reminds me of the Windows 98 demo printer bsod.

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