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Google Unveils Android 'Honeycomb' Tablet

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the i-hear-google-doesn't-render dept.

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adeelarshad82 writes "Google Mobile Platform VP Andy Rubin unveiled the very first Android 'Honeycomb' tablet. While very few specs were released about the device, it is said to be a sleek, black, Motorola tablet that is roughly 10" and runs a NVidia dual core CPU. The device has a very clean homepage and the app page looked almost Apple iPad-like. In fact, the Gmail app looked almost exactly like Gmail on the iPad. According to Andy Rubin, Honeycomb should release some time next year, and most major OEMs planning on building Android tablets have expressed interest in using this version of the Android platform."

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FIRST COMMENT (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34474798)

FIRSTS!

meh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34474842)

just a large android, too awkward to use as a phone, too big to carry around, what's the point?

Re:meh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34474952)

10" is too large? I think you need a bit more exercise. Crawl out of your basement, see the light of the world outside your monitor, use the muscles not on your arms/hands/fingers and jaws

Re:meh (0)

spun (1352) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475070)

10" is too large? I think you need a bit more exercise. Crawl out of your basement, see the light of the world outside your monitor, use the muscles not on your arms/hands/fingers and jaws

Yes, please do not use your jaws, everyone knows Honeycombs tear the shit out of the roof of your mouth.

Re:meh (1)

An ominous Cow art (320322) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475392)

Yes, please do not use your jaws, everyone knows Honeycombs tear the shit out of the roof of your mouth.

I thought that was Captain Crunch? Err, the cereal, not the phreak...

Anyway, I came to the joke thread to ask whether this new device might start a new trend of hexagonal tablets.

Re:meh (4, Interesting)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475042)

just a large android, too awkward to use as a phone, too big to carry around, what's the point?

Exactly my reaction to iPad when Apple announced it. I was wrong, there are plenty of uses for a tablet form factor. Two in my immediate world: 1) A computer that fits in the flap of my camera back to which I can upload photos for in-the-field high res slideshow. 2) A touchscreen program controller for my synth keyboard.

With a bluetooth keyboard and stand, should be perfectly able to replace a netbook or laptop for road trips. Subject to replacing lame Android interface with a real desktop like KDE of course.

Re:meh (4, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475184)

Except for the fact that netbooks are cheap and not limited. While undoubtedly you are going to be able to do more with the Honeycomb tablet than an iPad and it will be cheaper, netbooks still are the way to go for laptop replacements. I can buy a netbook for a bit less than $300 that can do most of the things a tablet can do for a lot cheaper.

Re:meh (4, Informative)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475502)

For $450 you can buy a decent convertible netbook/tablet that does both.

Re:meh (5, Insightful)

RapmasterT (787426) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476228)

For $450 you can buy a decent convertible netbook/tablet that does both.

yes, it does both less well than either of each. Convertibles give you all the bulk and weight of a laptop, combined with an OS that wasn't designed for tablet use. What's not to love?

Re:meh (2)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476644)

Not necessarily true. You have the bulk/weight of a netbook when using it as a netbook. How is that a disadvantage?

You can load any apps/software you want, have a full keyboard, USB slots, etc.

And many of the convertible netbooks/tablets change the OS interface when in tablet mode. When you remove the screen and tablet you leave the weight of the netbook behind.

You have the best of both worlds. Why is that bad?

Re:meh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34476140)

If you notice the amount of time the average person spends consuming vs creating media, you'll find that most people are consumers. That's the whole point of tablets.

Re:meh (2)

RapmasterT (787426) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476202)

Except for the fact that netbooks are cheap and not limited. While undoubtedly you are going to be able to do more with the Honeycomb tablet than an iPad and it will be cheaper, netbooks still are the way to go for laptop replacements. I can buy a netbook for a bit less than $300 that can do most of the things a tablet can do for a lot cheaper.

The netbook/laptop format is most certainly limited. They're nearly unusable while standing or walking, and very awkward to use while sitting but not at a desk. So while you CAN buy a netbook for $300, it can do most of the things an ipad can do, except the things that it can't do or do as well. Those applications are what the slate format excels at, and individuals can decide if those applications are worth the expense.

Pretending the slate form factor is useless because it's not exactly the same as a laptop is just ignoring the obvious.

Re:meh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34475322)

How exactly do you upload pictures from your camera to your iPad? The most convenient way would be to take pictures on a micro SD card (with an SD adapter) and then put the micro SD in your tablet. But you need a tablet with a micro SD slot.

Re:meh (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475426)

How exactly do you upload pictures from your camera to your iPad? The most convenient way would be to take pictures on a micro SD card (with an SD adapter) and then put the micro SD in your tablet. But you need a tablet with a micro SD slot.

Apple sells a camera kit [apple.com] . Basically it gives you a pair of dongles that connects to the Apple connector for thirty bucks -- one for SD, one for USB. Voila, tablet with SD slot. You can then offload from your camera.

A Micro SD -> SD adapter is an exercise for the reader.

Re:meh (4, Informative)

slim (1652) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475648)

Apple sells a camera kit [apple.com] [...] for thirty bucks

Of course if it had a USB socket in the first place -- and some very standard drivers -- you could use a generic MicroSD adapter for $5.

Re:meh (0)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475838)

Of course if it had a USB socket in the first place -- and some very standard drivers -- you could use a generic MicroSD adapter for $5.

While that's true, I have yet to find myself with the need to connect a USB drive to it. It's got WiFi, and I've got Dropbox.

But, I'm also aware that the average Slashdotter nowadays isn't happy with a device unless he can install GNU Hurd on it and resurrect some software from an Amiga. Any devices which can't do that are lame and evil and all that blah blah.

For me, I don't find the absence of built-in USB to be much of a limitation, nor does the fact that I can't install the latest Linux Kernel on it. For what I use it for, it does exactly what I need it to.

Re:meh (3, Insightful)

Vancorps (746090) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476304)

After you spent even more money to get accessories that are already present on every other device in the market. Slashdotters aren't happy with the device because it adds completely unnecessary hurdles to use, a USB port with USB host on it would solve the vast majority of complaints. Of course this is why competitors advertise the fact that they have USB so you can hook any old USB keyboard without the need to buy unnecessary adapters. I give Apple credit for creating an accessory industry out of nothing. Why people keep buying Apple products and the proprietary connectors they use I'll never fully understand when the Archos or APad are far more useful, cost less, and come in a variety of sizes. When the iPad first came out I could understand it, but these day? Hell no

Re:meh (1)

Bucky24 (1943328) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476668)

After you spent even more money to get accessories that are already present on every other device in the market. Slashdotters aren't happy with the device because it adds completely unnecessary hurdles to use, a USB port with USB host on it would solve the vast majority of complaints.

The only complaints I have heard are from people trying to do things that they shouldn't expect to be able to do. Honestly, an iPad is a giant iPhone. It's limited. If you really really want a USB/firewire/ability for linux kernel, buy a netbook. Sure, smaller screen size, and usually no touchscreen, but they are also on average about $200-$300 cheaper than an iPad.

IMO if you buy an iPad you should realize that it is limited, and consider that before putting down the cash.

Re:meh (2, Insightful)

HateBreeder (656491) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476312)

It's not about GNU Hurd, or the latest kernel or old Amiga software. I have no use for those on my tablet.

However, when I buy a piece of hardware .. i'm not buying a lifestyle, or an experience or a free pass into all the latest fashion events.

I'm buying hardware. Just that.

I don't want to change my life to work around this hardware's limitation. I don't want to do things the "apple way". I want to do things just the way I LIKE to do things.

Currently, apple doesn't give me this freedom of choice.

For me, buying an Apple product is just like using GNU Gnome. They might think they know what's good for me, but they don't really.

Regardless, i'm disgusted by the greediness and the closed nature of the company. The hardware and software are brilliant, but they could be so much more had they been open and let users do whatever they want. They could easily take over the market had the iPhone been an open platform that users can change and tweak every aspect of. Wait, you're a granny who doesn't care about these things and want you stuff to "just work"? then don't change them! But give me the choice, because I DO want to customize things!

It all comes down to choice. I like making my choices. You prefer apple to make them for you.

Re:meh (2)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476678)

But give me the choice, because I DO want to customize things!

It all comes down to choice. I like making my choices. You prefer apple to make them for you.

It's not that I don't want to make choices ... it's that most of the "choices" I see defended here on Slashdot ... well, to be frank, I don't give a damn about them. Exercise the choice to buy it or not ... and then get over what the rest of us do with it.

Like I said, if you want the "freedom" and the "choice" to install Hurd or some other obscure thing, and if you want to obsessively fiddle with kernel parameters and mount your own filesystems in new and creative ways or do any manner of wacky things ... then, you're absolutely right, a device made by Apple isn't for you.

Apple knows that you're not their market. But the big wide consumer market is made up of people who don't have any interest (or, indeed, the knowledge) to do the kinds of things you want to. They don't want to compile a kernel, or change their window manager. They just want to touch the screen and have what they expected to see appear. Having all of those options you want largely increases the odds of messing up the device.

After using computers for almost 30 years ... well, there's just some things I don't care about doing for the most part. I can if I have to, but for a device which is primarily used for entertainment, I have no interest.

However, thanks to Apple, people are now at least making additional tablets that do give you the freedoms you want. While still leaving the rest of us the freedom to buy the one that we don't need to do that with.

Until recently, a tablet was an expensive, niche item which few people could fathom. Google wouldn't be introducing this if Apple hadn't demonstrated that people are willing to buy them.

So, run wild. Buy another tablet that suits your needs. Enjoy it. Fiddle with it. Fuck up the operating system and have to reinstall from scratch. Whatever floats your boat. :-P

Re:meh (1)

rreay (50160) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476700)

It requires effort on Apple's part to make these things changeable and tweakable. That's effort on top of the effort to get it to "just work". They appear to have come to the conclusion that they get better results, however they judge that, by spending those resources on different work and features rather than adding reconfigurability to existing features.

Some companies do enough work to get the system working. Others get it working and then spend effort adding the kind of configurability you want. Apple does gets it working and spends extra effort on it's style of polish. I can't think of anyone that does both Apple's type of UI polish and high configurability. Each of these companies is doing what they feel is worth most to them and at least indirectly what it feels it can use to appeal to customers.

Each style offers the companies and customers trades offs between different values and everybody makes different decisions based on their preferences.

When you don't have Wi-Fi (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476632)

It's got WiFi, and I've got Dropbox.

So what do you do when you don't know the WEP key or WPA key of any of the Wi-Fi APs around you? Or when you're riding in a vehicle? That's when USB storage support becomes useful. Perhaps these cases apply to you less often than to me though.

Re:meh (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34476546)

If you had a USB socket in the first place, you wouldn't need to buy anything because most cameras come with a cable to plug them right into USB ports. If it came with an SD adapter you could put it on also. But it doesn't come with either and you have to pay $30 (+shipping) for having one OR the other.

Re:meh (1)

HateBreeder (656491) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475824)

Maybe you haven't heard, but apple has blocked this feature with ios 4.2.1. Too much power is what they claim....

I have to confess, I find this incredibly amusing.

Re:meh (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476134)

Maybe you haven't heard, but apple has blocked this feature with ios 4.2.1. Too much power is what they claim....

*laugh* Really? That is kind of funny.

I guess it's not something I've ever cared about trying -- if I fill my 8GB card in my camera, I have a couple of spare 4GB cards, and if I fill those, I can scavenge a couple of 2GB ones from my older camera. If I realistically expected to be taking the 2K + images that implies, I'd make sure to buy another 8+ GB card.

Definitely not defending bad support for USB/SD after the upgrade, but, I use my cameras and my iPad for different things. However, I'm sure for some people, this is a huge pain in the ass.

Personally, I've found the WiFi to be much flakier after the upgrade. Which is a bit of a pain in the ass.

Re:meh (1)

Grizzley9 (1407005) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476658)

There are also the Eyefi SD cards out there that use wifi and will transmit the pics to a storage device. I recently saw a video from a professional photog that used an iPad wirelessly (and a bit of software) to show the client the pics he was taking right as he was taking them. Being a bigger screen you can also see how well the shot was captured and details the small camera screen can't show you easily.

Re:ginormous (1)

rwa2 (4391) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476162)

Counterpoint: 10" is not ginormous enough! I still want one of the 5 foot high Android display phones they had at their trade show booths in the early days! Until then, I shall never be, uh... satisfied.

Re:meh (4, Funny)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475354)

too big to carry around

Honeycomb's Big!
Yeah yeah yeah!
It's not Small!
No no no!

Re:meh (1)

RapmasterT (787426) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476106)

just a large android, too awkward to use as a phone, too big to carry around, what's the point?

Let me guess, 8 months ago saying "just a large ipod, too awkward to use as a phone, too big to carry around, what's the point?", and you still don't get the point. Well, maybe it's time to buck up and accept that not everyone sees the world through your particularly focused tunnel vision. iPads seem to be selling marginally well, so maybe there's a point after all.

Go Google! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34474858)

Good thing about Google is it can make its Gmail app look exactly identical to the one on iPad and Apple cannot do a thing about it because its Google.

Sweet! (0)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | more than 3 years ago | (#34474924)

n/t

Re:Sweet! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34475014)

Please, do not say "yet another tablet"; finally we have a serious iPad rival. Gingerbread is better then iOS in several aspects.

Re:Sweet! (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475578)

Please, do not say "yet another tablet"; finally we have a serious iPad rival.

Do you? I sorta got the impression that this is a prototype and not generally available yet. It's a teaser ...

Rubin didn't offer my many spec details on the tablet, which he joked would cost $10,000, but he did say it was running an NVidia dual core CPU (presumably a Tegra).

It sounds like something not ready for production, and, I wonder what kind of battery life it has -- a dual core tablet might not have a great battery life. I think trying to cram a desktop into a tablet just gives you a heavy tablet with crappy battery life.

Anyway, no matter what tablet people end up buying ... consumers simply weren't buying tablets in any meaningful numbers before the iPad. Now that a lot of companies are following suit, I expect it to start to become a very prominent form factor, no matter who makes it.

OH HELLS YEAH!!! (2)

sshirley (518356) | more than 3 years ago | (#34474944)

This is excellent news! I love that Google creates these devices that jumpstart the industry to doing their own versions. Great job, Google!

Please. (5, Interesting)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34474972)

Give me these four things, and I'll buy it in a second:

1. Wireless-N
2. Built-in Bluetooth (think external controller used for emulators and games.)
3. SDHC card slot
4. At least one standard USB slot (preferably USB 3.0, but even 2.0 would be fine...just so long as it's a standard port without any proprietary nonsense.)

For the love of Jim Darkmagic, PLEASE FREAKIN' INCLUDE THESE FOUR THINGS.

Re:Please. (1)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475080)

5. Display port.

Re:Please. (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475148)

That would be quite welcome, but if ditching the display port meant gaining a USB port (or even an additional one) or an SDHC slot, I would gladly trade it away.

Naturally, this is based on my own plans for it, so YMMV with that.

Why not both? (1)

LynnwoodRooster (966895) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476116)

That would be quite welcome, but if ditching the display port meant gaining a USB port (or even an additional one) or an SDHC slot, I would gladly trade it away.

My little HSG X5A [jiongtang.com] (a 7" tablet running Eclair) has:

1. One full size USB port
2. One mini-size USB port
3. One mini-size HDMI port
4. One 3.5mm audio jack
5. One SDHC card slot

Items 1 through 4 live on one short end of the device (along with the power jack and the power button); the SDHC slot is on one of the long sides. The other short side and the other long side are empty. There's plenty of room on a 7" - and thus more than enough room on a 10" - for your entire wish list of connectivity.

Re:Please. (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475818)

The EVO 4G does have an HDMI port, so that wouldn't be without precedent.

Re:Please. (3, Insightful)

wiredog (43288) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475186)

Also, a WiFi only version so it doesn't cost $500.

Re:Please. (2)

farble1670 (803356) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476336)

that nails the problem. a lot of folks like the ipad but are put off by the price. if it was replacing my phone or my laptop i wouldn't mind spending $700 for it, but a tablet doesn't replace anything. it's an extra gadget. it won't enable you to do without owning a phone or a laptop. for me and i think a lot of others, that means a tablet needs to be much cheaper.

send in the clones. the problem there is that they are all about the same price as an ipad (counting out the chinese knockoffs). consumers like myself ask why buy a clone when i can get the real thing for a little more? android tablets need to be significantly cheaper, like in the $250-$350 range.

Re:Please. (1)

Kamots (321174) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475192)

My Nexus 1 has all that, so I'd imagine that it'd be on a tablet as well.

Re:Please. (1)

Kamots (321174) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475214)

er, lack of sleep is speaking. Meant to say my Droid X has all that. Not sure where the heck Nexus 1 came from.

Re:Please. (3, Funny)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475288)

The Nexus One came from HTC and Google, duh.

Re:Please. (1)

tangelogee (1486597) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476044)

Except for the standard USB port for connecting accessories...or can you plug in a digicam/SD card/etc through the micro USB connection?

Re:Please. (1)

cb88 (1410145) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475198)

http://www.notionink.com/techspecs.php [notionink.com] Its got it all... won't be standard honeycomb but it should run it. Whenever it is released X.x heh...

Re:Please. (1, Funny)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475202)

I hope at least one of those ISN'T included so I can be modded insightful for bitching about it on every Android story.

Re:Please. (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475278)

I can see your point...after being modded at +5 for discussing your choice of activity involving butts, there's nowhere to go but up! :)

Re:Please. (1)

MasterGwaha (1033282) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475258)

wacom stylus compatibility and photoshop/illustrator, kthx

Re:Please. (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475328)

I personally wouldn't have a use for that, since I draw about as well as the average 3 year old, but that would be an awesome feature to have.

The first person to release a decent tablet that can effectively use a Wacom stylus will almost instantly lock up purchases from everyone that uses a Wacom...although I'm not sure how excited Wacom would be about that :-)

Re:Please. (1)

s73v3r (963317) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476110)

Well, if Wacom was the company contracted out to develop the pen tablet technology, they might be pretty psyched about it.

However, currently, you can try the Pogo Stylus, which is a capacitative stylus that works pretty well, even at detecting some tilt stuff. Its not as good as a Wacom, but at $15, its pretty good for general use.

Re:Please. (1)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475294)

Judging by the summary, it seems you outlined the early prototype, but they had to make some alterations.

They dropped the Wirless for sleek.
They couldn't have bluetooth while being black
They were going to have an SDHC card slot, but decided to drop it to fit the 10-inch form factor.
They decided that if they didn't include a USB slot, they could bump it up to a NVidia dual core CPU.

I hope you are still willing to buy.

Re:Please. (1)

EdZ (755139) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475342)

At the top of my list:
- A decent screen.
The entire device is basically a display with a SOC and a battery glued to the back, but it's the component that always seems to get the short end of the stick. 1024x600 TN panels? What the hell 99% of tablet manufacturers!

Re:Please. (1)

arnott (789715) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475374)

Have you checked Notion ink adam [notionink.com] ? It almost has the specs (micrSD insteead os SDHC) you want, and should be available next month.

Re:Please. (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475722)

I'd like to point out that on the main page [notionink.com] , the clock shown on the tablet is set to 4:20.

Re:Please. (1)

s73v3r (963317) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476146)

Anybody know how much it is supposed to cost? It seems pretty good, but if its gonna be like $1000, its a non-starter for me, and its not gonna dethrone the iPad.

Re:Please. (4, Informative)

Fnkmaster (89084) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475510)

The Viewsonic G Tablet has all those things, and can be purchased now for less than $400 at Sears or Staples in the US. The Advent Vega is very similar over in the UK, with much better stock software.

The G Tab supports Wireless N (I haven't tested this personally, I just have 802.11b/g, but it supposedly does), it has built-in bluetooth, it has an SD slot that supports SDHC cards, and it has a standard USB port (well, USB-mini, but totally standard) that supports USB host mode.

The only issues with it are the out-of-the-box software completely sucks and is dog slow, you need to be comfortable flashing your own ROMs from XDA Developers to get much value out of it at this point, and to do a tiny bit of hacking to get the Market working properly. And the LCD screen is just not as nice as the IPS screen on the iPad, for example, and that's not a software-fixable issue.

I'm running the VEGAn ROM on it right now, which is a port of the Advent Vega software, and it's running great with Froyo. Things will only get better when Gingerbread and Honeycomb are here.

I'm hopeful the next generation of Tegra 2 tablets will be made with better LCD screens. That's what's really necessary to make an iPad-beating device right now.

Ironically, the diversity of Android devices and screen resolutions mean that quite a bit of the existing Android apps in Google's Market run much better on the G Tab than iPhone software ran on the iPad at its release.

Re:Please. (1)

Timmmm (636430) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475554)

2 is in every android phone, and 3 is in nearly all of them.

Re:Please. (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476456)

2 is in every android phone

But I don't want a phone. Phones cost $500-$600 because they're priced with the expectation that a carrier will subsidize the purchase by jacking up the price for service.

Re:Please. (1)

Timmmm (636430) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476544)

Well, no. They cost the same as bigger tablets because small electronics are expensive. Same reason laptops are more expensive than desktops.

The carrier 'subsidy' trickery just lets them sell more.

Re:Please. (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476686)

Well, no. They cost the same as bigger tablets because small electronics are expensive. Same reason laptops are more expensive than desktops.

If an Android tablet is expensive because the miniaturized computer hardware inside is expensive, then how does Apple make money selling its 3.5" iOS tablet [google.com] for $229?

Re:Please. (1)

NightWhistler (542034) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475674)

Sounds like you want an Archos 101.

Has all the things you mentioned, plus a hdmi Port.
It runs Froyo. I have the 70 myself, which is the 7 inch version. That one only has micro usb though whereas the 101 has a full size port.

Oh, and though it officially does not have the market, anyone with some google skill can install it.

Shouldn't be a problem (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475790)

Well, Android devices are required to have an SDHC card slot: it's part of the spec. Most devices have a micro USB slot for charging, and it can be used to connect the device to a notebook or desktop PC as a USB storage device, a USB camera, and a USB wireless modem, depending on mode. In theory, you probably could use the Micro-B port, which is a standard Micro-B port, on Android devices to power USB peripherals, but Google doesn't ship any USB drivers. In theory, I'm guessing that you could compile a Linux kernel module and get it on a rooted device, but I am uncertain as to how that would work and I doubt you could access it using the Android API. The USB device would have to be self-powering as well, since the port doesn't supply power.

All Android devices I've seen also have built-in Bluetooth, so that shouldn't be a problem in the tablet. WIreless-N is the only thing I'm not sure about. I'm pretty sure my wife's EVO 4G only supports WIreless-G, but I could be wrong about that.

Re:Please. (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475924)

The Archos 101 has all that stuff.

If you aren't real picky, the smaller Archos 70 gets you everything but the standard USB (and a Micro-A to A cable turns it into a USB host).

Re:Please. (1)

mrops (927562) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475986)

ummmmm.... get the archos

Re:Please. (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476538)

ummmmm.... get the archos

Any place where I can try Archos products? I tried Best Buy, but they don't have Archos 5 or Archos 43, and without having the device in front of me, I can't tell whether a device will have an unusably unresponsive touch screen and need to be mailed back for an 85% refund.

Re:Please. (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476272)

1. Wireless-N
2. Built-in Bluetooth (think external controller used for emulators and games.)

To be more correct, you want a/b/g/n, and not just b/g/n. a/b/g/n gets you N on both 2.4 and 5GHz, while b/g/n is just N on 2.4GHz. (the iPad has a/b/g/n - 2.4 and 5, iPhone 4 only b/g/n - 2.4 only). Saying N doesn't guarantee a 5GHz radio, and it's nice to use the less-crowded 5GHz spectrum and spare the 2.4GHz for everything else.

Bluetooth is good too, but you need standardized OS support so apps have a unified API. Bluetooth and USB, perferably with PS3 and Xbox360 (via USB - either wired or the receiver) controller support. Crappy controllers seem to rule and using the fairly nice Xbox360 controller (though some prefer the PS3 controller) would be a godsend.

Re:Please. (1)

Vancorps (746090) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476400)

There are a few of these on the market already. The Archos 70 [archos.com] has what you're looking for. There are other models that are differently sized so you even have the option there.

Most of the chinese knock-offs are 802.11g but the newer tablets coming out now are 802.11N like the Archos.

10 inch display? (1)

sconeu (64226) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475024)

Honeycomb's big, yeah, yeah yeah!\

[with apologies to Post cereals and to Hermes from Futurama]

Re:10 inch display? (1)

jtownatpunk.net (245670) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475120)

It's not small, no, no, no.

That was my first thought. Every GenX geek is humming that song right now.

Apple-biased much? (4, Insightful)

denzacar (181829) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475054)

but the app page looked almost Apple iPad-like. Plus, when Rubin brought up the Gmail app, it looked almost exactly like Gmail on the iPad.

Seriously? Gmail app looked a lot like a Gmail app - but on the iPad?
Wow! How does that compare to the likeness to say... Gmail?

Re:Apple-biased much? (1)

TheClarkster (1130495) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475224)

To rephrase what you said in even simpler terms, "Google's Gmail app looks like Google's Gmail app? What a shock!" And the app page looked Apple like probably because it used those new fancy 'icons' Apple invented.

Indeed... (1)

denzacar (181829) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475434)

Gmail app even uses several letters invented by Apple. And if you squint your eyes enough, Google logo looks exactly like Apple's.

Re:Apple-biased much? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34475410)

Gmail the website on the iPad presents a different view than any other device. Like how if you visit YouTube/Gmail/etc. on Android phones or iPhones, you get an optimized view for your phone, you get an optimized view for your iPad.

Obligatory (1)

Ozmodium (1395791) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475062)

So, at roughly ten inches...

Android Honeycomb's big, yeah yeah yeah! It's not small, no no no...!

Honeycomb's got, well, some interesting features.

Re:Obligatory (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34475196)

Perhaps the oddest design choice: there's no power button. If you want to put it to sleep, you have to shake that 10 inches until it cums on your face.

Re:Obligatory (2)

LynnwoodRooster (966895) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476214)

IIRC, getting spooge from a mobile device is patented by Apple. At least that's the way their fanbois act...

video on engadget (4, Informative)

slshwtw (1903272) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475158)

Engadget [engadget.com] has the video.

huh? can someone translate? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34475168)

"The device has a very clean homepage" - what does that mean?

Re:huh? can someone translate? (1)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475304)

I was also confused, so I did some research. Turns out, most people clean themselves -- soap, showers, shampoo, brushing teeth, trim their hair, etc -- on a regular basis. It helps to avoid looking and smelling like a homeless person.

editor? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34475276)

unvieled? WTF, it's unveiled.

Re:editor? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34475652)

Unvealed would be much more impressive.

Re:editor? (1)

LynnwoodRooster (966895) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476178)

That's unpossible!

nVidia CPU? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34475280)

Is that a typo or are nVidia now making CPUs?

Multicore & Carmack (2)

dazedNconfuzed (154242) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475282)

In juxtaposition to the new Google tablet featuring "NVidia dual core CPU", just a few /. stories prior is a link to John Carmack opining "In the not-too-distant future, we're going to be seeing multicore on mobiles" in reference to gaming capabilities.

Interesting times.

Re:Multicore & Carmack (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34475958)

Amazing! Carmack can predict the future!

Re:Multicore & Carmack (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476584)

Amazing! Carmack can predict the future!

I remember The Amazing Carnac [wikipedia.org] could peer into the future - but this is the amazing Carmack?

Updates? (1)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475444)

Developers are getting concerned about fragmentation of the Android platform. If users all have different versions, then it makes it hard to gets apps to those users.

I think the solution is to encourage the hardware OEMs to allow people to flash new versions of Android themselves, or Google/OHA needs to work with them to get the newest versions on all the hardware as soon as possible.

At least with my iPhone, I know I'm going to get all the iOS updates. If you buy an Android phone, there is a good chance you aren't going to get updates to the newer versions of Android.

Re:Updates? (1)

whoop (194) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476290)

You'll get updates so long as Apple decides you can, just like other carriers and Android. I have a lower-end Android phone (HTC Hero). After six months or so, HTC decided it wasn't worth the bother to update it Android 2.2 (before they even released the 2.1 udpate). I'm not all that up on Apple stuff, but I recall a big spat about this update to v4 not working very well on old ipods/iphones. Both of us can just hope the companies will support the device for a reasonable time.

The Android side at least has a pretty dedicated group of volunteers working on the Android source code, the hardware company's kernel sources, etc. to keep the device working well. Once Apple says this device is at the end of the line, is there any further hope for it?

Re:Updates? (2)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476574)

iOS 4 didn't run as well on slower hardware (the 3G has about 1/2 the processing power of the 3GS, which has about 1/2 the processing power of the 4). But at least they all got the update.

My wife has a Samsung Captivate, which shipped months after Froyo (2.2) and still doesn't have it. And I haven't heard plans for when or if it will be released, even though Gingerbread is now out the door.

The Eclair version the phone shipped with has a major bug which makes the GPS painfully slow, and this is fixed in newer releases, but they just don't feel like letting users have that release. Screw you. You have no choice.

To top it off, the one app my wife wants on her phone is Angry Birds, but because the phones are so fragmented, and because she has an old version of Android on a brand new phone, she can't play Angry Birds.

I love many aspects of Android (OSS, Linux based, Google Backed, etc) but fragmentation is a real problem that they need to fix.

Re:Updates? (1)

LordThyGod (1465887) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476308)

At least with my iPhone, I know I'm going to get all the iOS updates. If you buy an Android phone, there is a good chance you aren't going to get updates to the newer versions of Android.

That's just plain wrong. Apple no longer supports the original iphone. Whatever version you have will someday become obsolete as well. Do we need to distinguish OS upgrades from feature / security updates. Seems to me I've gotten both on my android via Verizon.

Re:Updates? (2)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476610)

There are brand new Android phones being shipped and sold today with 2.1 instead of 2.2, with Gingerbread out the door now. And most Android phones/carriers haven't been releasing updates.

Apple has been releasing updates for two generations back on their phones. You're complaining that Apple hasn't pushed updates back three generations, and my wife's Android phone isn't getting support/updates as a brand new phone.

Bald headed dork... Cut with the hype, poindexter! (1)

countertrolling (1585477) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475616)

Jeezus! Another useless press release. Wake me up when the thing hits the shelf.

Count how many times the phrase "show off" is used. *GAG!*

Honeycomb's big! (1, Redundant)

TheABomb (180342) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475664)

Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!

It is all about the battery life (5, Interesting)

0x537461746943 (781157) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475826)

The big advantage to the iPad for me is that it lasts all day on battery with just about constant usage. I know that it is always available if I need it without needing to find an outlet. I sometimes go 2 days without charging it. That nvidia dual core CPU I have a feeling will drain the batteries pretty quickly when something makes heavy use of it. I sure hope they put a big battery in it. If they do I would probably end up getting one. If it only lasts 5 hours on battery under medium use then it will be useless to me.

Honeycomb's big (0)

Linux_ho (205887) | more than 3 years ago | (#34475858)

Yeah, yeah yeah. It's not small. No, no, no

/get off my lawn

Excuse me - iPad like? (1)

LynnwoodRooster (966895) | more than 3 years ago | (#34476012)

the app page looked almost Apple iPad-like. Infact the Gmail app looked almost exactly like Gmail on the iPad

Uhh, that means the app looks GOOGLE like, since they MADE both apps... It was their choice - not Apple's - to make it look the way it looks. I guess tech writers have bought in to the whole "the world is Apple is the world" cult mentality after all...

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