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Google Unveils Beta Chrome OS Notebook

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the wait-this-is-new-now dept.

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adeelarshad82 writes "Google has unveiled a beta version of its Chrome OS notebook, dubbed CR48. The device will have a 12.1-inch screen and full-size keyboard, as well as an oversized, clickable touchpad. It will also include world-mode 3G and 802.11 dual-band Wi-Fi. Google promised eight hours of active use and eight days of standby, as well as a webcam.Those hoping to get their hands on a Chrome OS device, however, will either have to wait until mid-2011 or obtain one through one of several Google-backed giveaway options. Google plans to release two, Intel-based Chrome OS notebooks from Acer and Samsung in mid-2011, with Verizon Wireless providing cellular connectivity which comes with 100MB of free data per month for the first two years. According to Sundar Pichai, Google's vice president of product management, CR48 is not and will not be for sale. All Chrome OS devices will be launched and priced by their partners, who will hold their own launch events in the future with more details."

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Will it be as hard to update as Android? (3, Interesting)

eaddict (148006) | more than 3 years ago | (#34479678)

With all the flavors of Android out there will google do something different to make this hardware can take upgrades?
Hopefully google will keep Chrome OS in house and not sell it to vendors to cover with their unremovable crap.

Re:Will it be as hard to update as Android? (3, Informative)

grantek (979387) | more than 3 years ago | (#34479722)

TFA says there'll be a "jail-breaking mode", so Google have obviously realised they've been hurt by the closed Android platforms

Re:Will it be as hard to update as Android? (1)

The MAZZTer (911996) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480020)

Developers can get root by compiling the OS themselves. Normal users using a precompiled OS cannot AFAIK.

Re:Will it be as hard to update as Android? (5, Insightful)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480462)

TFA says there'll be a "jail-breaking mode

Why should there be a jail in the first place?

Re:Will it be as hard to update as Android? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34480506)

Security? Bad things happen when you let people administer their own computers.

Re:Will it be as hard to update as Android? (1, Insightful)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480726)

Security? Bad things happen when you let people administer their own computers.

Or drive their own cars or own their own homes.

Re:Will it be as hard to update as Android? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34481348)

Yes, but for those examples there are other barriers to entry.

To drive your own car legally, you have to pass a competency test.

To own your own home, you have to make a large financial investment.

So, it seems perfectly reasonable to force computer users to jump through some sort of hoop, before allowing them to administer their box. Rooting/Jail-breaking seems perfect. It requires some technical skill, and a certain acceptance of risk.

Re:Will it be as hard to update as Android? (1)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 3 years ago | (#34481804)

Or cook their own food.

Re:Will it be as hard to update as Android? (2)

iammani (1392285) | more than 3 years ago | (#34482058)

Yeah imagine the horror, one could literally burn their fingers (and possibly other parts of the body)

Re:Will it be as hard to update as Android? (2)

alvinrod (889928) | more than 3 years ago | (#34482330)

I understand the point you're trying to make here, but please understand that in the real world otherwise intelligent people with a decent amount of common sense will behave like complete morons when put in front of a computer. For whatever reason they imagine that it's some kind of magic box and don't understand the damage that they can do to themselves with it.

Some will send their life savings to the prince of Nigeria; a few will open hotnude.jpg.exe, unleashing god knows what horrors on the machine; others will share all sorts of information that they probably shouldn't with phishers; more still will post pictures or comments in manners that could cost them a job or ruin a career;

People have these wonderful devices that they use without really understanding the dangers involved or the consequences of their actions. Protecting these people from themselves is a good thing and it's a partly why Apple is having money-fight Fridays every week. It's not really a jail if there's an easily accessible way out of it. Most people are probably better off in the comfort of the confined area. Anyone who's feeling adventurous or understands the risks can easily leave that area.

Re:Will it be as hard to update as Android? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34482752)

TFA says there'll be a "jail-breaking mode

Why should there be a jail in the first place?

If you like malware, you are in luck: There is a switch that allows you to disable the OS integrity check. Just flip it, reboot, and hope some malware manages to load a kernel module that intercepts keystrokes and phones home with them.

Re:Will it be as hard to update as Android? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34480002)

It will not have the Android model of upgrade, but the Chrome silent upgrade in which every time there is an update it is installed without the user's direct knowledge.

Re:Will it be as hard to update as Android? (2)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480214)

It will not have the Android model of upgrade, but the Chrome silent upgrade in which every time there is an update it is installed without the user's direct knowledge.

Or approval.

Re:Will it be as hard to update as Android? (1)

chaboud (231590) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480488)

You'd just screw it up anyway. Better that nobody tells you.

Re:Will it be as hard to update as Android? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34482814)

It will not have the Android model of upgrade, but the Chrome silent upgrade in which every time there is an update it is installed without the user's direct knowledge.

Or approval.

Browsers load untrusted data from the internet every time you use them. Using an out of date browser is a security risk. Unless updates are silent and automatic, most users won't upgrade. That won't stop them from being pissed when they get hit by malware. Google shouldn't ignore the needs of 99% of users so that you can avoid an upgrade.

If you don't want to upgrade, you don't have to. If you are clever enough to understand the issues, then I am sure you can figure out how to disable automatic updates. The code is open source, and the only thing stopping someone from releasing update-free-chrome is the fact that running an outdated browser is a terrible idea.

Re:Will it be as hard to update as Android? (1)

Stregano (1285764) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480060)

I was under the impression we could download the OS itself and not just use it on proprietary hardware. If that is the case, if vendors are trying to change it in their favor, then that would be dumb since you could always dump that version and get the version directly from Google. Honestly, anybody on /. is smart enough to google this, but you can technically download the beta right now and use it. If that is possible, then It should not matter what 3rd party companies decide to do when you can seriously just reinstall the OS with the google defaults, and not the Samsung defaults

Re:Will it be as hard to update as Android? (1)

ZankerH (1401751) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480774)

Chromium OS is open source and you're free to try it on any hardware you can get it to run on. Chrome OS is Chromium OS + hardware-specific firmware + Google branding.

Re:Will it be as hard to update as Android? (1)

biryokumaru (822262) | more than 3 years ago | (#34482458)

Ya, but it's little more than just a crappy, Google-branded BrowserLinux [browserlinux.com] with a bunch of recommended links put in, taking up about 10-20 times as much hard drive space. I was really looking forward to it when I installed it on my netbook, and was pretty disappointed.

Re:Will it be as hard to update as Android? (1)

x1n933k (966581) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480094)

The release of a new version in Chrome OS is every 6 weeks. That is the OS alone, not the kernel. Unfortunately, like Android there is too much hardware out there and too many companies playing for standards. It will be up to the company you bought the laptop from to make sure the essentials work properly--in the end it is still up to them to screw your system as well. Acer loads a lot of crap-ware on their PCs, laptops and Notebooks. I expect them to do exactly the same thing with Chrome.

Updates will obvious fit in 100MB/month (1)

billstewart (78916) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480254)

So it shouldn't take any time at all to update...

No root. (1)

Timmmm (636430) | more than 3 years ago | (#34479696)

It requires jailbreaking, and they said "Native applications are web applications. It's fully possible to do everything that you can do with native technology with web technologies". Which sounds pretty dubious, although it does apparently support NativeClient.

Re:No root. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34479822)

It's fully possible to do everything that you can do with native technology with web technologies". Which sounds pretty dubious,

Pretty easy, actually — just add some way to execute machine code via javascript or something. Granted, there are some issues with this strategy.

Re:No root. (1)

VortexCortex (1117377) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480104)

It's fully possible to do everything that you can do with native technology with web technologies". Which sounds pretty dubious,

Pretty easy, actually — just add some way to execute machine code via javascript or something. Granted, there are some issues with this strategy.

Chrome's V8 JS engine already compiles JavaScript into machine code to gain performance... Granted, there are some security issues with this strategy (note: Firefox, IE & Safari also run JS as machine code).

Provide some bindings for JS to take advantage of OpenGL (like WebGL [khronos.org] ), and sockets (like WebSockets [websockets.org] ), and yeah, you can do just about anything with JS compiled into machine code as you can with C compiled into machine code.

IMO, machine code should run in a hardware supported VM environment to help prevent exploits... Davlik is a software VM, perhaps this should have just been an Android tablet... I just can't wait to fully "jail break" a Chrome OS tablet and install Android on it (I already develop for Android... Google, STOP FRAGMENTING THE MARKET).

Re:No root. (1)

ZankerH (1401751) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480806)

I just can't wait to fully "jail break" a Chrome OS tablet and install Android on it (I already develop for Android... Google, STOP FRAGMENTING THE MARKET).

Chrome OS is for netbooks, Android is for smartphones and tablets. There won't be an official Chrome OS tablet.

Re:No root. (2)

nine-times (778537) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480054)

Well they said:

The device also features a jail-breaking mode. It's fully available for you to break into.

So it will require jailbreaking, but they'll provide the ability to do that. Of course, since they're planning on having other integrators actually produce these machines, it will probably end up like Android-- theoretically open, but by many practical measures the devices are closed.

Re:No root. (1)

hitmark (640295) | more than 3 years ago | (#34481030)

Yep, this specific computer is built as specified by Google for use as a test bed of the eventual design specs for the various OEM variants. That the switch is there in this limited production run is not indicative of it being there when the various products start showing up in stores. And as one market area specifically aimed at is office use, i suspect it will not as that would compromise the image of security they are trying to sell.

Re:No root. (1)

shawb (16347) | more than 3 years ago | (#34482274)

And once these are out on the market, it could actually reduce attempts at jailbreaking on the commercial offerings. Those who want to play with the system get their hands on a CR48 due to the ease of hacking.

Re:No root. (1)

hitmark (640295) | more than 3 years ago | (#34482768)

i don't think there will be that many ot there.

Re:No root. (1)

GWBasic (900357) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480178)

It requires jailbreaking, and they said "Native applications are web applications. It's fully possible to do everything that you can do with native technology with web technologies". Which sounds pretty dubious, although it does apparently support NativeClient.

My guess is that Jailbreaking may be needed for bleeding edge browser plugins.

Google's on a roll today huh? (2)

pyalot (1197273) | more than 3 years ago | (#34479702)

A tablet and major JS engine overhaul wasn't enough, on a whim they just threw a notebook into the mix or what?

Re:Google's on a roll today huh? (5, Funny)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 3 years ago | (#34479908)

Eric Schmidt: Okay guys. It's time for the choppin' block. Whaddya got for me?

Tablet Lead: We just announced our tablet today!

Eric Schmidt: Way to set the bar high! Next! You!

Chrome Browser Lead: We... err... Overhauled our Javascript Engine! 100% faster! Totally! We'll announce it this afternoon

Eric Schmidt: Good good! I'd hate to have to fire you. I like you. Next! You there, what good news do you have?

Notebook Lead: Err... We... uhh. Yeah, we can totally announce our new notebook as well! Definately. It might not be READY till Mid 2011 but we can definately announce it oh god please don't fire me.

Eric Schmidt: ... *Flips a coin* ... You got lucky this time. Next!

Search Engine Lead: There's... err... Nothing new to report... Not even a doodle for the main page today... I... I'll go pack my things. It was really nice working here.

Eric Schmidt: No need, I'll have security escort you out then throw your belongings out the nearest window.

Re:Google's on a roll today huh? (2)

isorox (205688) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480612)

Search Engine Lead: There's... err... Nothing new to report... Not even a doodle for the main page today... I... I'll go pack my things. It was really nice working here.

Shame, they could turn off instant preview (or allow disabling it without greasemonkey). Remember when google was an awesome fast light search engine?

Re:Google's on a roll today huh? (4, Informative)

bhartman34 (886109) | more than 3 years ago | (#34481856)

You can already turn the instant preview off. It's under the search settings.

Re:Google's on a roll today huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34482800)

Google is an awesome fast light search engine, and the Instant only works better for me.

I also use Chrome, so I can use Instant from the address bar.

I'm no slouch of a typist, but quite often the webpage or search results load before I'm done.

Also, what the other guy said. You can turn it off. You just have to be willing to accept their cookie.

But unless you're running something like Privoxy and don't use flash, your silly attempts at anonymity and whatnot are futile.

Is Google Ripping Off Apple (4, Funny)

ahsile (187881) | more than 3 years ago | (#34479714)

Oversized touchpad == Macbook Wheel???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA [youtube.com]

(Yes this is a joke folks)

Black??? (3, Interesting)

harrkev (623093) | more than 3 years ago | (#34479792)

The PICTURES [engadget.com] show it as black. With a name like "chrome," shouldn't it at least be shiny?

Re:Black??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34480170)

My dad got black chrome hood hinges for his jeep and they have a nice color to them. Glossy metallic black.

Re:Black??? (1)

entotre (1929174) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480332)

Anything that help people forget the device (including not making it shine) would serve the goal of reducing the barrier between user and web.
The caps-lock button has been removed [google.com] , but in those pictures there is a button in the same spot. Is it a google-button?

Re:Black??? (1)

Art3x (973401) | more than 3 years ago | (#34481362)

The PICTURES [engadget.com] show it as black. With a name like "chrome," shouldn't it at least be shiny?

No.

looks exactly like a (0)

lx93 (1618927) | more than 3 years ago | (#34479804)

macbook? google is a copycat

Re:looks exactly like a (3, Insightful)

Lally Singh (3427) | more than 3 years ago | (#34479984)

Well it does have a screen, hinge, keyboard, and trackpad.

Naughty Google! Very Naughty!

Re:looks exactly like a (1)

karlwilson (1124799) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480800)

All cars have steering wheels.

Re:looks exactly like a (0)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 3 years ago | (#34481176)

Not really. The MacBook is only quite ugly, while this thing has the aesthetic appeal of an engineering brick.

"CR48"? (1)

grub (11606) | more than 3 years ago | (#34479854)


"CR48"? They should have named it "CR49".

It's pronounced "Crate"? (1)

billstewart (78916) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480226)

Or something; l33tsp34k it however you'd like...

Re:"CR48"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34480310)

More like CR4P, amirite?

Re:"CR48"? (1)

ArsonSmith (13997) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480838)

It's going to be "CR4P"

Wait, that's not right... (3, Interesting)

LeftHanded (160472) | more than 3 years ago | (#34479862)

Chromium [wikipedia.org] is 24 on the periodic table of the elements. The element that's 48 is cadmium [wikipedia.org] . Maybe they're going for some sort of esoteric Chromium Chromium == 2 * 24 == 48 kind of thing?

Re:Wait, that's not right... (5, Informative)

harrkev (623093) | more than 3 years ago | (#34479950)

Isotopes of Chromium [wikipedia.org]
48 is an unstable isotope of Chromium with a half-life of less than a day.

Re:Wait, that's not right... (2)

Achoi77 (669484) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480642)

Does this mean the laptop will be pulling in updates more than twice a day in order to squash bugs/improve performance?
At least the OS will be up-to-date...

Re:Wait, that's not right... (1)

Arthur Grumbine (1086397) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480706)

Isotopes of Chromium [wikipedia.org]
48 is an unstable isotope of Chromium with a half-life of less than a day.

Sounds more like Windows to me!

Bazinga!

Re:Wait, that's not right... (1)

elashish14 (1302231) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480736)

Well that's the kind of karma you can only find on slashdot...

Re:Wait, that's not right... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34480844)

I think I just had a nerdgasm.

Re:Wait, that's not right... (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480892)

So they expect it to have the same product lifetime as the Nexus One, then?

Re:Wait, that's not right... (2)

Nyder (754090) | more than 3 years ago | (#34482774)

Isotopes of Chromium [wikipedia.org]
48 is an unstable isotope of Chromium with a half-life of less than a day.

Well, to be fair, it did say the battery last for 8 hours of use and 8 hours of standby...

Re:Wait, that's not right... (3, Insightful)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480032)

Chromium [wikipedia.org] is 24 on the periodic table of the elements.

Chromium (Cr) 48 is the isotope of Chromium with atomic mass 48, an unstable isotope of Chromium with a half-life of about a day. (The most common isotope of Chromium is Cr-52, which is stable.)

So Cr-48 is a fairly clever name for a beta test device for running the OS developed through the Chromium OS project.

Is There A Bonus USB Memory Stick Option (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34479866)

with the Wikileaks [wikileaks.info] insurance file decryption key?

Hackers want to know !!!

Yours In Electrogorsk,
Kilgore Trout, C.I.O.

You’re eligible to receive a free Chrome not (2)

jekewa (751500) | more than 3 years ago | (#34479902)

Either they're quick with the invitations, or someone's quick with the phishing. I got an "invite" in the mail before I saw the notice on /. Free notebook...sigh.

Re:You’re eligible to receive a free Chrome (1)

The MAZZTer (911996) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480042)

I got a notice right in my freaking New Tab Page about the program.

bah. they all suck. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34480028)

i want a lattice
http://www.androidpads.com/2010/06/22/innoversals-lattice-tablet-comes-with-android-and-a-pixel-qi-display/

I hope this OS never takes off. (1, Troll)

Blice (1208832) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480034)

Buy a netbook and get NOTHING but the web: "feature"
BUY websites: "feature"

Please be a joke.

The feature is security and ARM (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34481636)

Since the user only has to run a web browser, the OS's security can be made FAR stronger and run on any processor architecture, MIPS, ARM, SH5, etc. I would have used OpenBSD instead of Linux for the kernel.

Is it 1992? (1)

jtownatpunk.net (245670) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480234)

100 megs of cellular data transfer on an internet device? What is it with the magically shrinking data caps these days? Verizon's been hyping LTE for months then cut off it's own nuts with 5 and 10 gig data caps and insane overage charges. AT&T's selling 2 gig plans with their ipads and iphones like that's going to be enough for these media-heavy devices.

I'm currently testing Clear's 4G service and, while the performance is excellent so far, there is strong evidence that they're throttling heavy users after they've moved about 10 gigs of data and calling it "network management". So far, I'm approaching 20 gigs (7 yesterday, 13 today) without a hitch but I may be in what we used to call the "honeymoon period" back in the DirecPC days. (Before they disclosed their throttling policy DPC sometimes didn't throttle new customers until they were past the return period.) Clear also just flipped the switch in my area so it's possible there isn't enough traffic to trigger the "management" protocols. The sad thing is that if Clear wasn't so "clearly" regurgitating DirecPC's playbook regarding throttling, I wouldn't feel the need to pound the crap out of their service to see if they'll cut me off. I pulled WAY more data through DirecPC's satellites just probing and testing their Fair Access Policy than I ever would have moved if the system just worked as advertised. Or if they'd just been honest about what they were doing. :)

Now where did I put that onion?

Re:Is it 1992? (1)

isorox (205688) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480714)

My typical phone data usage is 100mb/month, tops. Plenty of surfing on the go (like now on the train), little bit of ssh over VPN, plenty of email, but wifi at home and office. Aside from downloading tv shows, I never hit 20gb/month at home. What do you do?

Re:Is it 1992? (1)

jtownatpunk.net (245670) | more than 3 years ago | (#34481200)

Like I said, the only reason I'm pounding Clear's service is because of rumors that they're throttling heavy users and the language they're using when communicating with customers about this topic is identical to the language used by another company that was discovered to have been intentionally reducing performance for "heavy" users. Since the user experience (reduced speed at specific thresholds) and corporate response (deny, deny, deny, obfuscate) looked identical, the only way I can find out the truth is to experiment and draw my own conclusions. So I downloaded the Debian DVD ISOs. Perfectly legal and legitimate use.

The fact that YOU never use 20 gigs in a month doesn't mean that other people don't have legitimate reasons to move that much data. Before I signed up, I told Clear that I needed to be able to move 50-100 gigs of data a month. "I know clear offers service in my area but I need to know whether Clear will be able to consistently deliver 50-100 gigs of data per month or if I will be subject to limits on the amount of data I can transfer." "Yes we certainly can." So I've got users reporting 7-10 gig caps on one side and a sales rep telling me they can certainly deliver 50-100 gigs of data per month on the other. How do I determine which claim is true? Experiment.

And, with HD video streaming becoming the norm rather than the exception, 50-100 gigs per month seems like a reasonable estimate. Streaming an HD movie from Netflix runs about 1.5-2 gigs for a 90 minute movie. If I watch 2 movies a week, that's 12-16 gigs right there from one person, not counting anything else at all. Clear markets their service as a cable/DSL replacement so they shouldn't be shocked by that kind of use.

Here it comes... (1)

imrec (461877) | more than 3 years ago | (#34481378)

I've soooo been waiting to see Google start their attack on the mobile world. This looks like it. Android as a platform, for all it's flaws, is coming along, sure. Selling products with pre-paid connections? Not part of their business model.

Getting people connected to the internet everywhere? Through Google products? FOR ONLY THE PRICE OF ADVERTISING TO YOU??

Free 3G connected Google devices are coming. Show me an mp3 that has hammered the conventional big-business music industry and I'll show you a Google phone that completely obsoleted the idea that a cell phone provider charge you ANYTHING.

pay as you go (1)

fermion (181285) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480236)

I do like is the apparent pay as you go, if the prices are not too high. $10 is ok for the day pass. I wish ATT would let us buy data on a as used basis instead of every month, and pay for even if you did not use the it. I suspect Verizon is going to charge at least $20 for a gigabyte, which would be high but in some ways better than ATT subscription model.

Re:pay as you go (1)

isorox (205688) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480692)

I suspect Verizon is going to charge at least $20 for a gigabyte

$10/meg on uk o2 when I was recently in Pakistan and China. Hotel and office had wifi so not too bad.

Re:pay as you go (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 3 years ago | (#34481228)

I suspect Verizon is going to charge at least $20 for a gigabyte

Per TFA, aside from the $9.99 day pass, $20/month for 1GB, $35/month for 2 GB, and $50/month for 5GB. Its not pay as you go other than the day pass.

USB support? (0)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480248)

Will it have USB support? I'm not sure if Google told anything about that? Even if I won't store anything on my computer (I know that's not something this OS is aimed for), I still need to store photos on Flickr and docs on Google Docs. I sure hope you can plug in an USB stick, or an external hard drive via USB, and get access to its files in some sort of file manager? Otherwise it's horrible -- you'd need to use another computer just to get stuff from your mobile phone, etc.

Also, I doubt Apple will ever support iPhone syncing with this thing, since it doesn't have iTunes for the web. I know Google don't care much for Apple, but that could be a bad thing for Google. Remember that purchases on iTunes would then be out too, and this is a hugely popular store. And Spotify is super-popular in Europe as a music service, and they don't have any web client, or any announced plans to release one. It's things like these, Google...

Re:USB support? (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480906)

Will it have USB support? I'm not sure if Google told anything about that?

Per TFA, USB support in Chrome OS is one of the issues that is still being worked on. I presume the Cr-48 hardware will include USB, but I wouldn't expect it to work on day one.

Re:USB support? (0)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 3 years ago | (#34481238)

From the pictures, the hardware has one USB port and one VGA port. Seriously, in 2010, they're releasing a device with a VGA port. Not DisplayPort, not DVI, not HDMI, VGA. For this kind of device, I'd have thought composite or HDMI so that people can plug it into a TV to watch GooTube videos would make more sense. Who is going to want to plug a crippled laptop into an old monitor or projector?

Re:USB support? (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 3 years ago | (#34482758)

Who is going to want to plug a crippled laptop into an old monitor or projector?

Just about everything has a VGA port. Sorry, it's least-common-denominator.
 

I hope it's made by HTC (1)

chrisj_0 (825246) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480308)

coz if it's samsung I'll be stuck for 6 months on an outdated version of teh software :(

Test drive a Chrome notebook. (1)

grusapa (756151) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480540)

We have a limited number of Chrome notebooks to distribute, and we need to ensure that they find good homes. That’s where you come in. Everything is still very much a work in progress, and it’s users, like you, that often give us our best ideas about what feels clunky or what’s missing. So if you live in the United States, are at least 18 years old, and would like to be considered for our small Pilot program, please fill this out. We'll review the requests that come in and contact you if you've been selected.

Test drive (1)

Aggrajag (716041) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480574)

Too bad the pilot is US only, this device would be perfect for my non-profit!

Re:Test drive (2)

entotre (1929174) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480618)

I will give you advice:
1. Install Ubuntu
2. Install Chrome
3. Chrome OS equivalent obtained!

Re:Test drive (1)

MrHanky (141717) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480870)

Not quite. I tried installing Google Talk via the Chrome store today, and it complained that it only supports ChromeOS.

Re:Test drive (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 3 years ago | (#34481268)

That's not really an equivalent to ChromeOS - Ubuntu is capable of running useful programs as well as web apps...

Re:Test drive (1)

hitmark (640295) | more than 3 years ago | (#34482496)

someone linked to a vim plugin/app for chromeos over on twitter...

Cripplepad (0)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480696)

There, I think that sums it up. Take a general purpose computer and cripple it so it can only run a browser. Brilliant. Good luck with that.

Re:Cripplepad (1)

Taxman415a (863020) | more than 3 years ago | (#34482600)

There, I think that sums it up. Take a general purpose computer and cripple it so it can only run a browser. Brilliant. Good luck with that.

I'm not as against the ChromeOS idea as much as some people are. I think it might work for certain large segments of the population that would be better off having a computer automatically managed for them. But this announcement basically has only that one small upside and all the downsides you mention and two more important ones. Intel processor that sucks battery power and probably is an atom so isn't that powerful anyway - no thanks, 8 hour battery life - no thanks, there is more functional hardware out there that can do at least that aready.

The only thing that would have made this worth it would have been an ARM chip and a 12-18+ hr battery life

Here is what I don't get... (2)

TrippTDF (513419) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480724)

... why are they not just making the OS free for all? The Hexeh Chromium builds have shown that it can run on a variety of hardware... I don't understand why Google is partnering with device manufacturers instead of just letting this into the wild for everyone...

Re:Here is what I don't get... (1)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480820)

... why are they not just making the OS free for all? The Hexeh Chromium builds have shown that it can run on a variety of hardware... I don't understand why Google is partnering with device manufacturers instead of just letting this into the wild for everyone...

Not everyone at Google is smart I suppose.

Re:Here is what I don't get... (2)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480852)

Oh wait, this is Google's Bob. [wikipedia.org] Google figures, it's growing up to be a big important company like Microsoft, it too needs a Bob. A kind of rite of passage.

Re:Here is what I don't get... (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 3 years ago | (#34481422)

I don't understand why Google is partnering with device manufacturers instead of just letting this into the wild for everyone...

Google is partnering with device manufacturers because they'd rather not restrict the Chrome OS market to the small slice of people that would replace the OS bundled with their hardware with something else, and because they'd like casual users to have the experience provided by the OS running on hardware designed for Chrome OS rather than tailored for use with some other OS.

Of course, Chromium OS remains open source and freely available, and if people want to build it and install it on their own hardware, Google will let them do that.

Re:Here is what I don't get... (2)

yelvington (8169) | more than 3 years ago | (#34481686)

... why are they not just making the OS free for all? The Hexeh Chromium builds have shown that it can run on a variety of hardware... I don't understand why Google is partnering with device manufacturers instead of just letting this into the wild for everyone...

The Hexxeh builds show that it is free for all. Problem solved.

The builds that will come preinstalled will be highly tuned and tightly bound to the particular hardware. That's how they manage to boot so quickly -- there's no probing. See this video (over a year old) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTFfl7AjNfI [youtube.com]

Nice Notebook, boring OS (1)

joh (27088) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480754)

I really like this thing, but looking at Google web apps running in a browser looks extremly last century. Google is just *so* desinterested and uninspired with its webapps that it almost hurts.

Re:Nice Notebook, boring OS (1)

Kagetsuki (1620613) | more than 3 years ago | (#34482670)

What? Just what about it do you like? It's generic hardware made by... Acer and Samsung ... it's like they took the two worst companies they could find in both products[hardware] and services[support]. I have no idea what the big deal is with those damn click able trackpads either, what's wrong with the tap mode that's been available on every track pad for the last 20 years that I have to physically depress the device? And how about those Verizon data prices? I pay about $20USD for unlimited wireless data at 21mbps... This is easily one of the least appealing products I have ever seen from Google.

100 MB? (1)

myspys (204685) | more than 3 years ago | (#34480972)

"with Verizon Wireless providing cellular connectivity which comes with 100MB of free data per month for the first two years"

Surely that can't be right. What can you do with 100 MB?

Not even Verizon can be that cheap..

Re:100 MB? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34480998)

Especially on a device where EVERYTHING is run in the cloud!

Re:100 MB? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34481114)

It's free. Quit your bitching.

Re:100 MB? (2)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 3 years ago | (#34481192)

Surely that can't be right. What can you do with 100 MB?

If you are usually using it places with WiFi connectivity and only occasionally need access over 3G, probably enough to satisfy many users (or at least to make the 100MB monthly free usage + 1-2 $9.99 unlimited day passes a better deal than the $20-50 2-5GB monthly plans.)

If almost all of your use is out of WiFi coverage, you'll probably want a higher limit than the free plan.

Re:100 MB? (2)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 3 years ago | (#34481282)

100MB isn't there to be useful, it's there to persuade you to buy more data. Mind you, it has WiFi, so if you only use it outside WiFi range occasionally it's probably not so bad.

bye bye caps lock (1)

Gravis Zero (934156) | more than 3 years ago | (#34481250)

It also will not have caps locks

YES! they are keeping true to their "dont be evil" mantra.

NO CAPS-LOCK? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34481252)

It also will not have caps locks or function keys, hard drives, or spinning discs.

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE

The BIG question (1)

Linker3000 (626634) | more than 3 years ago | (#34481288)

But does it run...android?

Re:The BIG question (1)

ducomputergeek (595742) | more than 3 years ago | (#34482216)

But which version? 1.5, 1.6, 2.0, 2.1, 2.2 and what interface? Motorola's, Samsungs, HTC, LG...

Why 2011? (1)

Provocateur (133110) | more than 3 years ago | (#34481920)

That only gives me one year to fully enjoy it before the end of the world.

Good move Google (1)

BigBadBus (653823) | more than 3 years ago | (#34482150)

Google have done the right thing and not rushed out Chrome OS in time for Christmas, unlike the disastrous Vista. But will Chrome OS enabled netbooks have a sticker on the box saying "you must be connected to the internet to use this machine"?
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