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Netflix Signs Deal With Disney-ABC

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the instant-goofy dept.

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tekgoblin writes "Netflix announced today that they have brokered a deal with Disney-ABC to add their content to the Netflix library. The deal should add a substantial number of new TV shows and Movies to instant watch. The episodes will be added rather quickly to instant watch only 15 days after initial telecast."

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Wow surprising (4, Insightful)

grapeape (137008) | more than 3 years ago | (#34494726)

Thats kind of a huge deal if it includes streaming. Just yesterday there was an article about how Netflix was non-sustainable because its deals were not direct with the content providers but rather mostly 3rd party like Starz. Guess they are working to pre-emptively fix that issue.

Re:Wow surprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34494814)

Streaming will make all the difference...

Re:Wow surprising (5, Insightful)

omnibit (1737004) | more than 3 years ago | (#34494922)

Er what? I think you misread what the CEO was saying (assuming the article you don't cite mentions it). Netflix was saying that third-party content providers were not essential to its success. [yahoo.com] At the end of the day, Netflix has the subscriber base and the cash rolling in to negotiate with whomever they want. It doesn't matter if they go direct or via some third-party route.

At the end of the day, it's in the studios' or brokers' best interest to receive large slabs of money because content providers can double dip as much as they want. First the air it on TV (money), host it on their sites (more money), make it available to iTunes and other pay-per-view services (the dollars continue to flow), then sign up as many streaming services as those companies can afford (ooooh, they're getting richer) before releasing to DVD and syndication.

Direct or indirect - Netflix doesn't care because someone will agree to those handsome checks.

Re:Wow surprising (1)

afidel (530433) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495682)

Yeah but Fox or CBS would have been much bigger wins since they have a significantly better lineups (personal opinion but backed by Nielson numbers).

Re:Wow surprising (1)

grapeape (137008) | more than 3 years ago | (#34496044)

No actually you just assumed the wrong article. What I was referring to was this...

http://gawker.com/5471943/why-netflix-wont-be-the-hbo-of-the-21st-century [gawker.com]

Several others have been posted recently as well, mainly pointing out that the current deals allowing streaming to piggyback on existing licensing will be mostly dried up by 2012 causing netflix to have to compete with the big boys like hbo and showtime on a more equal footing as far as costs go. The current deal with Starz for instance was signed for an amount that is barely more than what HBO pays for a handful of films from the major studios.

Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34494764)

15 days after air ?

Pfft

I can get them on torrents after 1 or 2 days

unless its the next day, I am still not interested.

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (1)

omnichad (1198475) | more than 3 years ago | (#34494880)

How does that matter? Well - that is, except for the biggest shows. If you just delay the start of your season by 15 days, you can have weekly episodes coming in. Are your shows really that important to yourself and the water cooler talk that goes with it?

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (2)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#34494924)

Why do you care?
$7.99, no commercials, no lawsuits, no hunting through torrent sites or setting up rss downloaders.

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495018)

You're missing the biggie: Streaming. You click 'play' and a moment later you're watching it, even to your cell phone or blu-ray player if you like.

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495254)

Works on my blu-ray player(PS3) but due to netflix's relationship with MS not on my phone or computer.

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495362)

Why not on your computer?

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34495574)

Doesn't work on my computer either.

Not trying to put words in his mouth, but good chance it's because netflix chose a highly non-standard mechanism to deliver the video content. They could have chosen any number of platform independent technologies, but instead they chose a proprietary one that only works in a few kinds of environments.

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495592)

They definitely use some proprietary stuff, but what I was curious about was the 'deal with MS' he referred to. Netflix works just fine on my Mac and PC. The only 'MS agreement' I know about was the reason the Wii version of Netflix required a disc, and that expired a couple of months ago.

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#34496042)

The MS deal I refer to was their choice of silverlight for non-tech reasons. It was chosen since the owner of netflix sits on the MS board.

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#34496034)

They lack a linux client, which means it does not work on my computer nor my phone.

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (1)

nizo (81281) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495618)

I recently bought a standard def roku box on ebay that I use to watch Netflix streaming through my tv capture card on linux; works like a charm!

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34495712)

Astraweb $10/month.
SickBeard [sickbeard.com]

Hour long TV shows are done in under 10 minutes. So they're usually available to watch in XBMC [xbmc.org] in $endtime + 15.

No commercials, no lawsuits, no hunting sites, I guess sickbeard does technically count as a rss downloader, but setup is near trivial.

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (4, Insightful)

Gothic_Walrus (692125) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495008)

Believe it or not, some people prefer obtaining their content legally.

Or just don't want to risk getting sued, or in trouble with their ISP.

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34495508)

That's the cue when you go to McDonalds for the wifi. You don't just work there... you live your second life there.

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (1)

Rockoon (1252108) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495602)

My biggest objection to pirating movies/television is the toil of hunting around for it.

Hulu essentially delivers my subscriptions to me without me having to hunt for them.

The pirate alternative is to hit the torrent sites or (gasp) IRC and hunt down the latest episodes... then start downloading them with the hopes that the download will complete at some point convenient..

I subscribe to 8 or 9 shows on Hulu, so the pirate method is performing a hunt 8 or 9 times per week.. vs streaming immediately with hulu whenever I have some free time.

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (1)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495724)

What's this "hunting" of which you speak?
SickBeard [sickbeard.com]

Does Torrents & NZB files. I've NEVER had it miss a show. It aggregates like 6 different search providers so there is a lot of overlap.

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34495846)

eztv.it

Sometimes it borks up, but generally the shows are up within a few hours, and certainly the next morning. Lists all the shows by episode, include back episodes.

There's RSS feeds to track specific seasons and download when the new torrent is put up.

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (1)

BradleyUffner (103496) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495238)

15 days after air ?

Pfft

I can get them on torrents after 1 or 2 days

unless its the next day, I am still not interested.

One or 2 days? If you know the right sites you can get them 5 to 10 minutes after they air.

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34495282)

One or 2 days? If you know the right sites you can get them 5 to 10 minutes after they air.

If you know the right sites, you can get them BEFORE they air.

Why wait to see it when it's in the can already?

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495436)

It's not how soon after air you can get them, but how long after air. Torrents fail for unpopular content. Try fetching Quincy vs CSI Miami.

Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (1)

bigstrat2003 (1058574) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495516)

Right. Or you could wait a whole 15 fucking days, and not be a douchebag leeching off the work of artists.

I understand this complaint when it's a length of time spanning months or years, but two weeks is hardly unreasonable.

15 days is quickly? (4, Insightful)

Yossarian45793 (617611) | more than 3 years ago | (#34494798)

15 days after initial telecast doesn't seem that "quickly" to me when they're competing against the Scene which releases new episodes within a few hours of initial telecast -- sometimes even 15 minutes after. If they're asking for money they better think about same day releases.

Re:15 days is quickly? (1)

vux984 (928602) | more than 3 years ago | (#34494988)

Why exactly do I care to get a scene download when I can get a legit download a couple weeks later?

Re:15 days is quickly? (2)

Sonny Yatsen (603655) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495016)

I agree with your general sentiment, but you aren't getting a legit download. You're getting a legit stream.

Re:15 days is quickly? (4, Insightful)

vux984 (928602) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495252)

Fair point. But for a TV show (and most movies for that matter), the odds I care to watch it twice are pretty low. And I can always stream it again.

my "scene" download (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34495496)

my watch anywhere any time

Re:15 days is quickly? (1)

moonbender (547943) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495500)

Might not be a factor for you, but it is for many people. This is why the DRM of a game is already somewhat of a success if it keeps the pirates (arr) at bay for even a couple of days or a week: many people want to play the game on day 1, and if they can afford it they will pay for the privilege even if they wouldn't, otherwise. Or so the theory goes. I think the same applies to TV series, particularly the popular, water-cooler-talk ones.

Re:15 days is quickly? (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495558)

But look at what netflix is charging (even after their recent rate increase) - $7.99 for the streaming-only plan. Isn't Apple's service $1 for every single episode? (They're going to get blown away unless the reconsider that.)

$7.99 is the same price as Hulu plus, which doesn't have any movies and still has commercials.

Come to think of it, I bet Netflix will introduce ads with this deal... I sure hope not, but I have a bad feeling. It's Disney after all. They make you watch ads at the start of DVD's, for pete's sake.

Re:15 days is quickly? (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#34496008)

If they do any advertising I will cancel and let them know why.

I will go to blockbuster or redbox. Any advertising would make the streaming dead to me.

As Lao-tzu said (3, Insightful)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495714)

"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."

I'm quite sure Netflix would be happy to offer immediate availability. However, they are fighting with a very entrenched media industry, an industry that regularly acts against their own best interests. So, maybe there needs to be some middle ground. Eventually hopefully it'll be immediate streaming to Netflix. As it stands, this isn't bad.

Please remember Netflix offers five things that warez does not which make it worth paying for:

1) Instant gratification. Netflix is streaming. You punch play, you are watching seconds later. Warez is all download. Now on a fast connection, the difference isn't a big deal. If you are rocking 50mbps cable or FIOS, you can pull down a 100-200MB file so fast it makes no real difference. However most people aren't. On a 5-10mbps cable connection, which is more normal, you can wait several minutes and that is presuming your download is fast. With Netflix, it just buffers for a second and then goes.

2) Ease. Netflix is really, really easy to use. Very friendly for non-technically savvy people, and even those of us who are good with computers can appreciate the good interface. Locating and watching things on it is dead simple, and it has useful features like recommending new stuff you might like (sometimes people want to watch something but have nothing specific in mind).

3) Quality control. When you watch something on Netflix, you get what you want. I've never seen its streaming to error. With warez, well sometimes shit isn't what it claims to be. You deal with idiots uploading things, jackasses who want to cause trouble, media industry spamming bad stuff, etc. Not a major deal but you can spend 30 minutes downloading only to find you've got something you don't want.

4) Device integration. Netflix is available on all kinds of devices. Blu-ray players, TVs, etc. This is real nice for living room watching. I don't break out my laptop, just turn on my Blu-ray player and it handles the rest. Yes you can build a media center box for warez'd stuff, that takes technical know how, not to mention is probably going to cost a bit more.

5) Legitimacy. Perhaps you personally don't care at all if what you are doing is legal or not, and feel no morals about downloading stuff you didn't pay for. Some people do, some people care. They want to do the right thing. Netflix offers that. It is 100% legal and legit.

So while it isn't perfect, it is getting better and that's all we can ask really. Netflix has gone from a unique form of DVD rental service to one of the largest video streaming services in the world in only a few years. Now they are growing their content, and getting better time tables. If this keeps up, we hopefully WILL see a large catalogue of quickly available stuff in a few years time.

Re:As Lao-tzu said (1)

PRMan (959735) | more than 3 years ago | (#34496038)

As for streaming errors, one time I had an indie movie that didn't have audio.

Re:As Lao-tzu said (1)

KhabaLox (1906148) | more than 3 years ago | (#34496040)

Mod +1 Insightful.

I agree with what you said. Even for a moderately tech savvy person like myself, I prefer Netflix for convenience and ease of use. The only drawback is the size of the library.

It's a double edged sword. I hope they get big enough to be able to get similar deals with a lot of other content providers (maybe they already are). But at the same time, I don't want to see them be the only game in town. They killed Blockbuster. Maybe Redbox or someone else will come along and provide some good competition. I'd hate to see them get complacent and stop innovating or expanding their library.

Re:15 days is quickly? (1)

aztracker1 (702135) | more than 3 years ago | (#34496032)

Honestly, I have a few shows I watch the night of, or next night.. wouldn't take much to get used to watching a couple weeks out... Though sometimes discovering a series that's been on a while, and catching up on a few seasons is really nice.

Re:15 days is quickly? (1)

LoverOfJoy (820058) | more than 3 years ago | (#34496234)

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "the Scene"? I did a google search but I guess scene is too generic to narrow it down to what you're talking about.

Hmm (4, Interesting)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 3 years ago | (#34494802)

How about all those cool Disney Afternoon series? Duck Tales. That Jungle Book one. Darkwing Duck.

Dan Casltellana was a better Genie, IMHO.

I'm old. :-(

Re:Hmm (1)

Xaedalus (1192463) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495594)

I wish they'd open up the Disney vault for those shows. Darkwing Duck HELLZ YEAH!!!!! As for Duck Tales, bring that back, PLUS Duck Tales: Treasure of the Lost Lamp (one of the most criminally underappreciated Disney movies EVER-waaay ahead of its time)

15 Days? (3, Insightful)

webdog314 (960286) | more than 3 years ago | (#34494812)

Forgive my ignorance, but why the delay? Is this "punishment" for not viewing it when it's broadcast? I mean, why wait more than 24 hours? If you are that much of a fan of a show, you're going to watch it when it airs, yes? And if you already have NetFlix, then offering it more quickly would just increase your chances of acquiring new viewers that might turn into fans who might just watch it when it airs. If you are already a fan, then it's just gravy in case you miss an episode. So where is the advantage to waiting?

Re:15 Days? (4, Insightful)

phyrexianshaw.ca (1265320) | more than 3 years ago | (#34494898)

Though I am a fan of a number of TV shows,

I do not have a TV, or cable of any sort in my home.

being that I currently spend months waiting for the shows to come to DVD, this is a LOT better than nothing.

Re:15 Days? (5, Insightful)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#34494916)

Forgive my ignorance, but why the delay? Is this "punishment" for not viewing it when it's broadcast?

No. It's so Disney continues to make money from advertisers. If the show turns up 24 hours later on Netflix commercial free, then there's little incentive for somebody to purchase advertising time during its broadcast.

Re:15 Days? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34495000)

The problem with this thinking is if someone misses an episode. Fox had a similar system with some of their shows for a while and the result was that once I had missed one episode, I stopped watching the broadcast for the rest of the season since I wanted the watch the previous episode before watching the next one. By providing it online 5-6 days later, people can catch up last weeks episode and still watch the broadcast for the current week.

Re:15 Days? (1)

colinnwn (677715) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495414)

This has exactly happened to me watching Fringe and Glee. I've quit watching Fringe on air day, and been catching back up using (supposely less lucrative ad rates) Hulu. Glee I may watch a couple from the beginning on iTunes, but for most I'll probably wait until Netflix has on DVD.

Re:15 Days? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34495510)

"The problem with this thinking is if someone misses an episode."

If you miss an episode you miss the advertising. They do not care otherwise.

Re:15 Days? (1)

Galestar (1473827) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495226)

So how about Netflix with commercials that you can get as soon as the show is aired?
If I miss an episode in a season, I will have to stop watching the television broadcast altogether, and start just watching Netflix (or, since neither of those solutions is optimal, pirate it)

Re:15 Days? (1)

KhabaLox (1906148) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495652)

No. It's so Disney continues to make money from advertisers.

The kid's Disney channel (with MM Clubhouse, etc.) doesn't show commercials except between the shows.

Re:15 Days? (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495788)

We're not talking about the Disney channel. Quoth the article:

Prior season episodes of current ABC hit series “Grey’s Anatomy,” ”Desperate Housewives” and, for the first time on Netflix, “Brothers & Sisters,” all of which are among the network’s most successful and popular TV franchises in recent years.
Every episode of recent ABC favorites “Lost” and “Ugly Betty,” the latter making its streaming debut at Netflix.
Each season of several hit series from ABC Studios, including “Scrubs” and “Reaper,” which are both new additions to Netflix.
A host of content from the Disney Channel, including the hits “Phineas and Ferb” and “Good Luck Charlie,” which are also new to Netflix; updated and expanded offerings of “The Suite Life on Deck” and “Wizards of Waverly Place;” and library offerings from the smash hits “Hannah Montana” and “The Suite Life of Zack & Cody.”
A wide range of content from ABC Family, marking the introduction of ABC Family content streaming from Netflix. Included are the hit series “Greek,” “Make It or Break It,” “The Secret Life of the American Teenager” and “Melissa & Joey.”

Re:15 Days? (1)

KhabaLox (1906148) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495808)

We're not talking about the Disney channel. Quoth the article:

A host of content from the Disney Channel, including the hits “Phineas and Ferb” and “Good Luck Charlie,” which are also new to Netflix;

We aren't? ;)

Re:15 Days? (1)

omnichad (1198475) | more than 3 years ago | (#34494920)

This wouldn't matter so much for Disney, but I assume that it's exactly that - punishment for not viewing when broadcast. I'm sure the content deal with Netflix brings in less money that same-day broadcast advertising sales.
 
For myself, there were just too many shows that started this fall, and half of them may be crap. I'm following half of that half weekly right now. When they're on break, I'll go back and catch up on the rest. Would be a whole lot easier if those were just all on Netflix. And if you wait, you just get to watch them all together as a continuous story - which can be nice.
 
I look at shows and follow the news to decide what's worth my time - I don't just sit and stare at the TV and hope something interesting comes on. Don't have enough time for that.

Re:15 Days? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34494948)

Pretty much. If it's delayed only 24 hours, then people will have an incentive not to watch the broadcast (and COMMERCIALS). That would canabalize their broadcast income.

Re:15 Days? (1)

alkad (1952450) | more than 3 years ago | (#34494968)

Forgive my ignorance, but why the delay? Is this "punishment" for not viewing it when it's broadcast? I mean, why wait more than 24 hours? If you are that much of a fan of a show, you're going to watch it when it airs, yes? And if you already have NetFlix, then offering it more quickly would just increase your chances of acquiring new viewers that might turn into fans who might just watch it when it airs. If you are already a fan, then it's just gravy in case you miss an episode. So where is the advantage to waiting?

Probably because they don't want Netflix to become a substitute for regular broadcast TV. If episodes were available on Netflix the day after they aired, why would I ever bother to watch the show live? Easier to do it on my own time and avoid ads. Ideally, these companies would rather you watch all their shows live, not on Netflix at some indeterminate point in the future. The 15 day waiting period is a compromise that lets Netflix subscribers view old shows and ones they've missed, but doesn't cut into the viewers who are wiling to work their schedules around live TV. It isn't "punishment" as much as they are trying to increase the total number of viewers without cannibalizing the broadcast TV market that they've leaned on for 50 years.

Re:15 Days? (1)

badboy_tw2002 (524611) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495910)

I don't think they care about you watching live so much as they care about the ratings for advertisers. I'm guessing they have all the data for Hulu, but maybe the ads aren't as lucrative?

Re:15 Days? (2)

spazdor (902907) | more than 3 years ago | (#34494984)

It's so they can continue to sell their content to "first-run" network broadcasters at an artificially high price, while doing a halfhearted bare minimum to be able to claim that they're playing nice with online distributors and trying to give their geeky customers an alternative to piracy.

Re:15 Days? (1)

dAzED1 (33635) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495074)

I don't have cable (like another commenter) but I do have a TV. It has a PS3 attached to it, and the PS3 has Netflix. I don't sit around talking about my favorite TV shows with people, so if I watch it a painful 15 days later - I won't care - especially since I only pop in to netflix every couple weeks anyway, when I've nothing else to do.
But then, I don't watch things like "Glee" or whatever it is people sit around talking about at the proverbial water cooler anyway.

Re:15 Days? (1)

c_jonescc (528041) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495098)

It might have something to do with how long the average show sits on a Tivo, and how much ad value they feel there is for a show on Tivo vs. on Netflix.

I know everyone fast forwards through commercials with DVRs, but even seeing the existence must have more impact than not having them at all.

So, if people cycle through what's saved on their DVRs every two weeks on average, they make more in ad revenue if they delay the release beyond that window.

Re:15 Days? (1)

mattack2 (1165421) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495162)

If you are that much of a fan of a show, you're going to watch it when it airs, yes?

No, not necessarily. In fact, there have been cases where I have deleted my Tivoed recordings of a show that I liked _more_ because I knew it was more popular and would get on DVD eventually.. That was to make room for something else. Even for shows I like a lot, I often bank up MANY episodes and then watch them later. (Heck, I'm on 2007 episodes of Cold Case.) If more of the Netflix shows had captions (especially useful when watching while walking on a treadmill), I'd probably nuke some of my Tivo recordings and use the netflix streams instead.

Finally, I can watch Tron again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34494834)

... hopefully before Legacy comes out next week? (I know I could get it from RedBox or Blockbuster, but that defeats the purpose of having Netflix)

Canada? (5, Insightful)

Guspaz (556486) | more than 3 years ago | (#34494840)

What territories did Netflix get these rights? Because I doubt that we'll ever see any of this on netflix.ca.

Re:Canada? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34495096)

I'm a netflix.ca paid subscriber as well; I'm already p/o'd that we don't get any of the star trek content that's on netflix.com.

Re:Canada? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34495344)

I wonder if it's something you could work around using a US proxy? I'm not sure... maybe not, if they also key it on your physical address. But if it's just an IP->geo map, you might be able to do it.

Re:Canada? (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495634)

...we don't get any of the star trek content that's on netflix.com

I was considering netflix, but if such content isn't there, no dice.

I just checked the site: None of the recent Doctor Who, Battlestar Galactica, V, Starlost, Space 1999, Hogan's Heroes, Gilligan's Island, Get Smart, Stargate, Bewitched (Well, they've got the movie, but not the series), Farscape, Breaking Bad, Junkyard Wars, Lost, Survivorman, Joan of Arcadia, Corner Gas...

Pretty pathetic.

Re:Canada? (1)

Dave114 (168228) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495284)

Well, I'm seeing the press release listed in the Media Centre section of the Netflix.ca website. Not sure if that means anything or not. Has Netflix in the past limited the release of media announcements regarding US-only stuff to their US website or have they always cross-posted to netflix.ca?

Guess I'll have to wait and find out.

"Brokered" doesn't mean what you think it means... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34494864)

If there is no third party, then Netflix has in no way "brokered" a deal with Disney/ABC Please use this word properly in future.

Wholly owned subsidiary (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#34494910)

As I imagine it, the third party is a wholly owned subsidiary of The Walt Disney Company, probably with "Buena Vista" in its corporate name. Such use of wholly owned subsidiaries is a common tactic in Hollywood accounting [wikipedia.org].

I've become somewhat wary of streaming... (1)

nebaz (453974) | more than 3 years ago | (#34494896)

Having never seen Lost, it was in my instant queue for a while, untill one day it just became "unavailable". According to Netflix's FAQ page, some titles may become available/unavailable based on deals provided by the content providers. Lost will be available again (I think tomorrow), possibly due to this deal. On the other hand, some DVD items that I have wanted to watch have also become unavailable, and will probably remain so for the near future. Specifically out-of-print anime items that I am looking for. It is too bad, because I don't think some of those items will ever be available on streaming. Netflix is transitioning more toward a streaming company, but I hope they don't neglect their dvd market as well. I don't like being subject to the whims of the content provider in terms of streaming availability.

Re:I've become somewhat wary of streaming... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34494952)

Yeah, you didn't miss anything. -1 Troll for LOST hating, but come ON people, it was the most pointless show.

Re:I've become somewhat wary of streaming... (2)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#34494956)

As part of this deal do not be surprised to see out of print disney stuff disappear from dvd as well.

Re:I've become somewhat wary of streaming... (1)

Adriax (746043) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495234)

Oye, the Vault... Worst part about working the music shop in disneyland, having to explain to people why the best movies were not being sold anymore. Hell, we got all our info on vault locked titles not from corp HQ or anything official, we used a 3-ring binder filled with printouts from ultimatedisney.com

Re:I've become somewhat wary of streaming... (3, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495270)

This is one of those things that makes me want copyright to be maybe 14 years max and surely void if you ever refuse to sell the material.

Re:I've become somewhat wary of streaming... (1)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495650)

This is why I prefer physical media. Streaming as a trap and I am sure the studios love pushing back towards subscriptions. The next step will be Netflix going to pay per view.

Re:I've become somewhat wary of streaming... (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495974)

I do not think the customer base would go for that. The studios can only sell what folks will buy.

Either way, enjoy it while it lasts.

Re:I've become somewhat wary of streaming... (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 3 years ago | (#34496006)

It's only a trap if it costs the same, if it costs 1/20 as much (an argument that could probably be made for Netflix), it doesn't have to provide the same value as the physical good in order to be worth it for many people.

If you mean that you think streaming leads to a world where people have no other choices, I don't think the demand for entertainments is really that inelastic (that is, at some point people really would start reading books or playing stickball rather than forking over for streamed video).

Re:I've become somewhat wary of streaming... (1)

hazem (472289) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495396)

I've seen stuff disappear out of my "Instant queue" as well. In fact, I was just starting to watch Farscape for the first time and after only seeing 3 episodes, it was removed.

However, I think even with the stuff that's removed from their streaming service, it's still mostly available via DVD. While you can get the unlimited streaming service for I think $8.00, if you go up to $10/month, you can get unlimited streaming and 1 DVD at a time. You may be able to get those out-of-print programs that way (if they have them on DVD).

Re:I've become somewhat wary of streaming... (1)

nebaz (453974) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495528)

I do use the dvd service, quite often. The problem I have is that Netflix does not seem to be restocking their less popular DVD's, and since DVD's wear out after being mailed around and seen by so many people, inevitably some items will be unavailable. (Disk 1 of a series was unavailable but 2-6 were there. That's kind of tough to get around). I had just hoped streaming would not have that problem, since there is no disk to scratch, yet these items become unavailable because of contract stipulations, resulting in artificial scarcity. I just hope that since Netflix seems to be focusing more on streaming, that they don't ignore the DVD's that they already have and restock the "out of print" items more than they do.

Re:I've become somewhat wary of streaming... (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495598)

Netflix is transitioning more toward a streaming company, but I hope they don't neglect their dvd market as well.

I have noticed Netflix has fewer and fewer of the DVD's I want to watch; I have more in Saved than in my Queue. Am I the only one, or is netflix slowing down on DVDs?

Re:I've become somewhat wary of streaming... (1)

npsimons (32752) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495828)

I have noticed Netflix has fewer and fewer of the DVD's I want to watch; I have more in Saved than in my Queue. Am I the only one, or is netflix slowing down on DVDs?

You're not the only one; I've had several DVDs moved to my saved section, after being in my queue for years (I filled up my queue rather quick, then let it sit for a while; what can I say, I've been busy). For me, I currently don't have the bandwidth to stream, so I hope they don't neglect their DVD side.

And around the world... (3, Insightful)

Rooked_One (591287) | more than 3 years ago | (#34494958)

the cry of netflix users is hear. I would hate to see disney policy in ANY way change netflix one bit.

Re:And around the world... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34495862)

Unless Disney/ABC also agreed to give Netflix more freaking Twin Peaks Season 1, Disc 1 DVDs. I think it's a conspiracy.

This is new? (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495032)

I know the summary (and linked article) both mention "TV shows and movies" - but didn't Netflix already have an agreement with Disney regarding getting their movies quickly?

Step in the right direction...ish.. (1)

grasshoppa (657393) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495124)

I mean, besides Disney and all that.

I have netflix, and love the streaming capabilities. That said, it seems their streaming content is getting less rather than more. I had several titles in my queue that I was watching that are no longer available for streaming.

On top of that, none of what I want to watch seems to be available for streaming.

Re:Step in the right direction...ish.. (2)

Xtifr (1323) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495610)

That said, it seems their streaming content is getting less rather than more. I had several titles in my queue that I was watching that are no longer available for streaming.

Um, they add and remove titles all the time. To conclude that it's "getting less rather than more", you would have to show that the number they remove each month exceeds the number they add, which does not match what I see. In fact, I frequently have movies that were in my DVD queue magically appear in my streaming queue (which is nice of them to do).

On top of that, none of what I want to watch seems to be available for streaming.

That sounds like a personal problem. I'm sorry your tastes are so limited. :p

I actually felt a little like that at first, but I've become very pleased with the opportunity and encouragement to explore all the interesting indie and foreign films they offer, and have actually ended up enjoying that more than when my movie-watching time was spent on whatever new Hollywood Blockboiler had the advertising budget to make me interested.

meanwhile.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34495164)

Netflix streaming *still* doesn't work on desktop Linux.

Re:meanwhile.... (1)

colinnwn (677715) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495484)

And it will likely be years from now if they ever get streaming on Linux. I used to get POed about this, since I only use Linux at home. But ever since I can get a Roku box for less than $100, or watch on my Wii (or if you have a PS3 or Xbox), it has mostly been a non-issue. I see how they don't want to invest big $$$ to create a custom studio approved DRM system on Linux, for such a small base of users.

Re:meanwhile.... (2)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34495544)

Although I could afford the $100 box, I've got *plenty* of boxes around already and don't really want to get another one just because they couldn't be arsed to support video codec standards.

Closed captioning (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34495264)

What I really want to hear is that they've added closed captioning for most titles (ie more than just Lost) and that players like Roku actually can show them.

My folks have Netflix for now but since they are hard of hearing basically can only enjoy foreign films.

Re:Closed captioning (1)

KingAlanI (1270538) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495844)

Is turning on the English language subtitles, a classic shortcut on closed-captioning issues, available here?

Goodbye Dish Network (2)

KhabaLox (1906148) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495626)

The main reason I've been keeping Dish Network is because my two toddlers love Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. Now, if Netflix can ink a deal with Nickelodeon so we can get Wow Wow Wubbzy, Dora and Diego, I'll be set. And if they can get more adult content streaming (e.g. AMC, HBO, etc.), I'd be willing to pay up to $20 or $30 per month, even if there is a couple week delay

Linux support (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34495764)

When will they support Linux again? The only reason I'm not a Netflix subscriber (anymore) is that they refuse to support the operating system of my choice. I have a Mythgentoo box hooked up to my TV, and I have an Ubuntu laptop next to my bed that I watch movies on before bed...

The only Windows machine I have is my gaming rig, and it's not in a suitable position to watch movies/tv on.

Re:Linux support (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#34495962)

After Amazon has their streaming subscription. Since that is flash and works on linux and many other platforms, netflix will be forced to change their ways.

Probably Not As Good As It Sounds (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 3 years ago | (#34496232)

Disney does, after all, hold to their "vault" model of distribution - where a movie is only for sale for a certain period of time and then taken out of circulation for years before being re-re-released. Amongst others, Tron is an excellent example of this; you can't buy it in a store (Disney-owned store or not) for any price right now because Disney simply won't sell it. So if Disney allowed Netflix to carry all the titles they currently sell, it would be a nice library but it would be neither a comprehensive nor a permanent addition.
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