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Michael Moore Posts Julian Assange's Bail

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the right-is-right dept.

The Internet 987

digitaldc quotes Michael Moore in a story running on the Huffington Post where he says "Yesterday, in the Westminster Magistrates Court in London, the lawyers for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange presented to the judge a document from me stating that I have put up $20,000 of my own money to help bail Mr. Assange out of jail. Furthermore, I (Michael Moore) am publicly offering the assistance of my website, my servers, my domain names and anything else I can do to keep WikiLeaks alive and thriving as it continues its work to expose the crimes that were concocted in secret and carried out in our name and with our tax dollars."

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Empty theatrics (-1, Offtopic)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547520)

How does that help Assange when he was denied bail?

Re:Empty theatrics (4, Informative)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547538)

um... [huffingtonpost.com]

"WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is back in court today, and has been granted bail by a British judge. He has been in a British prison for a week after being denied bail last week. Assange is wanted for questioning for alleged sex crimes involving two women in Sweden. It is thought that one of the women, Anna Ardin, may no longer be cooperating with prosecutors."

Re:Empty theatrics (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34547808)

It is thought that one of the women, Anna Ardin, may no longer be cooperating with prosecutors."

It should be mentioned that this statement stems from the fact that she is currently on a three month stay in Israel with an ecumenical Christian group. She has been blogging how excited she is about this trip for months.

Re:Empty theatrics (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547880)

Interesting, thanks!

Goose Gander (2)

Zero__Kelvin (151819) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547906)

"It is thought that one of the women, Anna Ardin, may no longer be cooperating with prosecutors."

It should be mentioned that this statement stems from the fact that she is currently on a three month stay in Israel with an ecumenical Christian group. She has been blogging how excited she is about this trip for months."

Assange was excited about posting the documents for quite some time, but when he was busy doing so rather than reporting to those same police he was "not cooperating with police." Why is this any different?

Re:Empty theatrics (4, Insightful)

Keruo (771880) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547952)

> Assange is wanted for questioning for alleged sex crimes involving two women in Sweden.
What annoys me with media is that they twist the sentence above to say that he's wanted for rape charges.

Doomed (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34547540)

Even many people on the left hate Moore. Not help I would want.

Re:Doomed (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34547560)

Even many people on the left hate Moore. Not help I would want.

But a lot of people in the middle and somewhat on the left think he makes some brilliant points.

I applaud Mr. Moore for doing this.

Re:Doomed (5, Insightful)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547916)

He makes some good points, but he makes them incredibly badly. He's the kind of person who could turn 'water is wet' into a controversial statement. Even when he says something that I agree with, he makes me want to argue.

Re:Doomed (-1, Troll)

JackieBrown (987087) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547992)

a lot of people in the middle and somewhat on the left think he makes some brilliant points

By middle, you mean leftists that assume they represent the middle and assume anyone right of them is a neocon.

Re:Doomed (2, Insightful)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547624)

I despise Moore as a person. I enthusiastically applaud his work in pulling off the lamb outfit from world governments and corporations.

It's kind of like Mel Gibson...sure, he may be a dick, but he makes awesome movies.

Re:Doomed (5, Insightful)

patjhal (1423249) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547768)

I do not understand comments like these. I have no reason to dislike him as a person from what I know of his personal life, but lets face it, I do not really know the guy. Hes not my neighbor. I love the professional work he does. There does seem to be allot of FUD attached to his person mainly due to people wanting to discredit him. I find people who believe it do not look deeply into whatever issue is involved.

Re:Doomed (4, Insightful)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547786)

My problem with him on a personal level is he doesn't let the evidence speak for itself...he seems to find it imperitive to make sure that you know that he's the one saying it.

Like I said, I absolutely support and love the work he does, but the man's need for attention pisses me off.

Re:Doomed (1)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547896)

Agree with or not, it does help him stay in business...

oh gee (0)

unity100 (970058) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547944)

so this is different from fox news, all the corporate news channels, how ?

it isnt. so, if thomas jefferson came and tried to impress you with the idea of freedom, not letting just the evidence speak for itself, then he would be a douche, and you would be negative towards freedoms ?

give me a break.

Re:Doomed (1)

NevarMore (248971) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547802)

Theres a lot of FUD associated with his work because thats what his work IS.

Re:Doomed (0, Flamebait)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547830)

I don't have a problem with a person having liberal or conservative beliefs. And I would applaud Moore if his goal was to expose the truth.

Moore is nothing short of a liar. I know I'll get called a troll, but there are basic verifiable facts. He lies about census numbers. Heck, he stood in front of a statue and lied about what the plaque said, even though it was really easy to verify he was lying.

Re:Doomed (4, Insightful)

Feyshtey (1523799) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547840)

I enthusiastically applaud his work in pulling off the lamb outfit from world governments and corporations.

What purpose is served in releasing the fact that Hilary Clinton worries about the mental health of other world leaders? How does that aid in our international relations?

That's just one of 1000's of items that were released that are not crimes, are not important for the American people to know, and still undermine our government's ability to operate on the world stage.

Releasing those kinds of documents doesn't serve a greater good. It doesnt expose any wrong-doings. It doesn't help create stability, ensure -anyone's- safety, or promote any kind of cooperation between nations. It was released to embarrass the US government and garner sensationlistic attention from a little weasle.

Not to mention that this guy released the names of confidential informants in the middle east. In doing so he signed the death warrants of those people. What greater purpose was served by releasing their names? What good will come of that? What crime did they commit? What evil are they responsible for? Where are your indignant tears for them and their families who will almost assuredly be slaughtered?

Re:Doomed (5, Insightful)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547942)

What purpose is served in releasing the fact that Hilary Clinton worries about the mental health of other world leaders? How does that aid in our international relations?

That's just one of 1000's of items that were released that are not crimes, are not important for the American people to know, and still undermine our government's ability to operate on the world stage.

Releasing those kinds of documents doesn't serve a greater good. It doesnt expose any wrong-doings. It doesn't help create stability, ensure -anyone's- safety, or promote any kind of cooperation between nations. It was released to embarrass the US government and garner sensationlistic attention from a little weasle.

If they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to worry about...right? I mean, that's what they told us with the Patriot Act and warrentless wiretapping, so...

Not to mention that this guy released the names of confidential informants in the middle east. In doing so he signed the death warrants of those people. What greater purpose was served by releasing their names? What good will come of that? What crime did they commit? What evil are they responsible for? Where are your indignant tears for them and their families who will almost assuredly be slaughtered?

Can you find me one single recorded instance of anyone over there being killed directly because of the Iraq/Afghanistan war docs?

Re:Empty theatrics (1)

Relyx (52619) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547550)

He was granted bail on appeal today, just in the last few hours.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11989216 [bbc.co.uk]

Re:Empty theatrics (1)

Kiralan (765796) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547578)

Looks like it is in the works: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_wikileaks_assange [yahoo.com] LONDON – A British judge granted bail to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange on Tuesday, but he remained in custody pending a possible appeal.

Re:Empty theatrics (1)

Stooshie (993666) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547704)

They have 2 hours to appeal. What can have changed in two hours that another judge would reverse the decision?

Re:Empty theatrics (1)

NevarMore (248971) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547822)

What can have changed in two hours that another judge would reverse the decision?

The judge.

Re:Empty theatrics (0, Troll)

c6gunner (950153) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547608)

It doesn't. It's just one propaganda artist trying to gain publicity by sticking up for another.

Re:Empty theatrics (1)

Duradin (1261418) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547680)

I can't wait until Moore doesn't do enough to keep the rabid Anonymous horde at bay.

"He's not helping Wikileaks enough! Burn him!"

Re:Empty theatrics (0, Flamebait)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547722)

How does it feel to to be completely, utterly wrong? Shown what an ass you are? how out of touch you are?

He has been granted bail.

Re:Empty theatrics (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34547614)

He was just granted bail.

Inaccurate summary (1, Informative)

Geoffrey.landis (926948) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547714)

How does that help Assange when he was denied bail?

He was granted bail [npr.org] .

The article says that "a number of Assage's wealthy friends" pledged the $317,000 bail-- the summary is vastly inaccurate saying "Michael Moore" posted the bail.

Alternative headline (-1, Troll)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547532)

Michael Moore finds way to stay relevant

Or: (0, Troll)

errxn (108621) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547620)

Assange Bailed by Ass Clown

Re:Or: (0, Flamebait)

harrkev (623093) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547860)

Ass clown bailed by ass clown.

I have no problem with the "whistle blower" aspect of Wikileaks. That is one of the functions of a journalist, and I support bringing to light the fact that a government is doing something illegal or immoral.

However, Assange is NOT a journalist. Journalists are supposed to have a sense of responsibility. All Assange does is release documents no matter what they are, without apparently trying to determine if they NEED to be leaked.

For example, he released the list of sites that the US government finds to be "critical." How is this whistle blowing in any way shape or form? Isn't the government SUPPOSED to be making lists like this? Does this document show any crime? Would a "real" reporter publish this if they came across it? I would certainly hope they would not.

I am not opposed to the idea of something like Wikileaks, I just want it to be run by somebody with a little discernment about right vs. wrong.

Re:Alternative headline (1, Insightful)

Austerity Empowers (669817) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547654)

Which for those of us on the fence about Mr. Assange's activities, may have helped us see him as more villain than hero.

Re:Alternative headline (5, Insightful)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547788)

Although I don't like Michael Moore (he's comparable to a propagandist) he sometimes does the right thing. His mid-90s movie about manufacturing an excuse to declare war (and give the president a boost in popularity) was very good. And this act to bail a Reporter out of jail and protect the Right to a Free Press is also very good.

Without wikileaks we wouldn't know that US Soldiers were killing innocent journalists and children (the Pentagon denied the event happened). That Hillary Clinton was stealing credit card numbers from foreign diplomats. The content of the ACTA treaty to make backing-up your CDs or DVDs or MP3s and illegal act. And on and on and on.

Democracy can not work when the people are kept in the dark about what their public servants are doing.

Re:Alternative headline (1)

Barny (103770) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547938)

Yeah, the guy has never seemed much more than a sensationalist to me, but ponying up like this raises him a few notches in my estimation.

ANY person or organisation could have done this, the journalists who gladly eat up the data wikileaks is releasing, countries opposed to the united states' policy in regard to silencing him.

Re:Alternative headline (-1, Troll)

frankxcid (884419) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547964)

Really? you didn't know that in war civilian sometimes get killed? Oh wait a minute, you mean that US soldiers diliberately target non-combatants because all US armed forces are evil. Be a real man and take up arms against the evil US armed forces!! I would be happy to make you a martyr!

Re:Alternative headline (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34547792)

Then you weren't really on the fence.

only if (4, Interesting)

unity100 (970058) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547874)

youre an american maybe. from the outside, we see moore a hero. maybe its possible that the endless propaganda perpetrated by corporate owned mass media have twisted you american people's views about moore, just as it twisted your views about wikileaks.

Re:Alternative headline (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34547922)

If you're that much on the fence that you can be swayed by whether or not Michael Moore is doing a slightly lame publicity stunt or just being vocal about what he believes in, your views are pretty much pointless in either case.

Re:Alternative headline (1)

Zero__Kelvin (151819) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547956)

If you were on the fence about his activities you are a moron anyway, so it really doesn't matter what you think.

Re:Alternative headline (0)

nine-times (778537) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547782)

I'm not a fan of Michael Moore's, but he's about as relevant as he's ever been. "Sicko" and "Capitalism: A Love Story" are probably as famous as any of his other movies.

That's not to say that he's ever been terrifically relevant, but if he was relevant in the past (which you imply by saying "stay relevant") then he's relevant now.

Re:Alternative headline (0)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547904)

When he released Fahrenheit 9/11 and Bowling For Columbine, Moore was extremely relevant. Since then his relevance has waned. Without a Republican foil Moore is mostly toothless and impotent.

By dramatically glomming on to the topic du jour, he has found a way to put himself back in the limelight.

Blah Lame (0)

BuckaBooBob (635108) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547542)

Nothing but a Publicity Stunt... @)K Really? Thats a Joke for him.. There is no statement or News here Move on..

Re:Blah Lame (1)

Scorch_Mechanic (1879132) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547816)

Of course it's a publicity stunt. Michael Moore rarely does anything else these days. Regardless, I hope it works. The courts and police systems of the enlightened (hah!) world are predisposed for a very good reason to take all allegations of rape seriously. It's a shame that certain unscrupulous people take advantage of this, but that's how it works. The way I figure, the longer Assange can stay in the global spotlight, the more people are going to read up on "all this wikileaks stuff" and realize exactly what shenanigans their gov'ts are up to. In other words: Yes it's a publicity stunt, but it will help the word get out. As such, I'm for it.

It's good to have allies (5, Interesting)

Animats (122034) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547548)

Having a successful Hollywood producer with a track record of successfully embarrassing big companies and governments as a supporter can't hurt.

Re:It's good to have allies (0)

metalmaster (1005171) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547622)

unless of course, you are on the receiving end of said embarrassment

Re:It's good to have allies (1)

BobMcD (601576) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547708)

unless of course, you are on the receiving end of said embarrassment

So Moore might wind up doing a movie about Assange?

Re:It's good to have allies (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547798)

You might be joking, but I can well see that, it fits Moore's style well. A "little guy" taking up and fighting the big, evil government, big evil corporations, big evil $whatever... being hunted down, being arrested, gets support from "the cloud"...

C'mon, that's a Moore movie already written.

Re:It's good to have allies (1)

mckinnsb (984522) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547676)

It looks like Assange may have found a way to generate the capital he so desperately needs to continue his fight against conspiracy in government. He would have lost completely without someone in big media with serious cash on his side. Now it looks like he might actually have a fighting chance of having some success with his goals, and staying out of prison.

Re:It's good to have allies (1)

Marcika (1003625) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547888)

It looks like Assange may have found a way to generate the capital he so desperately needs to continue his fight against conspiracy in government. He would have lost completely without someone in big media with serious cash on his side. Now it looks like he might actually have a fighting chance of having some success with his goals, and staying out of prison.

$20,000 from Moore will not pay for much -- public donations are a far bigger source of funds... Wikileaks already received $1 million in donations collected by the German Wau-Holland-Foundation. (And it needs them - given that Wikileaks needs to finance half of Manning's $100k defense costs, and Assanges UK bail of $378k...)

Re:It's good to have allies (3, Informative)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547774)

Except that his movies made at least one completely false statement that I know of for sure. He said that factory that was making the Titan IV was making ballistic missiles. It is not and has never been a ballistic missile. It was based on the Titan II which was ballistic missile but was retired from service long ago.

Re:It's good to have allies (0, Troll)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547950)

Oh christ, just one? Google Fahrenheit 9/11 and error, or hoax, or lies. He accused someone who said he had a toll free number of not even having a 1-800 number...it was a 1-888 number. He said the White House let the bin Ladens leave after 9/11, implying Bush just let them go. Actually, someone else in the White House let them go after the FBI investigated them for 2 weeks. His movies are filled with blatant lies and deliberate misrepresentations. I wouldn't trust a single thing he says, even this.

Re:It's good to have allies (0, Troll)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547968)

There are websites that document hundreds of verifiable lies that he has made.

This is the same guy who has insinuated that George W. Bush is pals with Osama Bin Laden and specifically sent too few troops into Afghanistan to make sure Bin Laden escaped and wanted to keep his Taliban friends safe.

Nutjob and liar. What a great combination. It is a shame because he tackles issues that do deserve some attention, and then he invalidates the discussion his his bullshit.

Re:It's good to have allies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34547960)

Micheal Moore can only be considered a "success" if you don't bother to fact check any of his films, are a complete moron, and/or agree with everything he says. I'd suspect in this case that you may have brain damage.

I'd call them documentaries, but I've seen some real good documentaries, and Moore's films simply do not qualify. I've seen more robust and complete information from undergraduates--- and anyone who's taught undergrads knows that this is NOT a compliment...

Association with Michael Moore (1, Insightful)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547568)

I'm certainly no fan of Assange, but I can't see how being associated with Michael Moore is going to help him or Wikileaks.

Just makes him seem even more like a media whore. Two douches in one box.

Re:Association with Michael Moore (1)

shentino (1139071) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547612)

In the court of public opinion perhaps.

I still have an unreasonably optimistic belief that british crown court will be less easily swayed.

Re:Association with Michael Moore (1)

slimshady945 (1553213) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547638)

Two douches in one box.

I think I saw that video...

Some concert in North Korea (0)

Saint Stephen (19450) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547570)

The latest crime I saw leaked by one of the cables was that North Korea lobbied really hard to get The Smiths to perform a concert there or something :)

Re:Some concert in North Korea (1)

Motard (1553251) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547692)

Worse was that Sarkozy chased a rabbit in his office.

Re:Some concert in North Korea (1)

mangamuscle (706696) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547864)

So he is also into bestiality?

So basically.. (1)

Anrego (830717) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547584)

Michael Moore style drama, sensationalism, and bias meets wikileaks style cold hard data. This should be interesting

I do agree that _all_ governments seem to have gotten a little too used to being able to work in secret.. and wikileaks might just curb some of the insanity by making the question “what if this gets out” a little more real. That said I do think they go a bit far.

Re:So basically.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34547736)

Michael Moore style drama, sensationalism, and bias meets wikileaks style cold hard data.

Yep, that's what sells and that's how you get heard in this day and age. And Wikileaks has been creating their own drama and sensationalism - *ahem* - like all this jazz of they're going to release something BIG early next year on some BIG BANK. If that's not sensationalism, I don't know what is.

Let's face it, with all the noise on the boob tubes (Radio, TV, Internet, well, ALL electronic media), the only way to get heard to do exactly what Moore and Asange are doing. These latest leaks? Without this court room drama, no one would probably pay attention - it's actually kind of boring lame shit.

Posts it where?? (3, Funny)

OzPeter (195038) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547598)

Someone tell me the IP address of the website where I see Assange's bail.

In an alternate reality... (0, Flamebait)

Viol8 (599362) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547602)

..Micheal Moore actually exposes real crimes carried out by all the unpleasent dictatorships around the world. Though that might require him getting off his fat backside and doing some real investigative reporting and even putting himself in real danger , as opposed to the manufacturered danger he conjures up to keep up viewer interesr on his lame expose films.

Re:In an alternate reality... (4, Insightful)

BobMcD (601576) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547724)

So, since he's fat, he's lazy? Piercing insight, that.

I don't care much for Moore, but he's doing the right thing here, so maybe store the venom up for a day when he's not?

Re:In an alternate reality... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34547892)

Just because the GP implied Moore was fat and lazy, doesn't mean he's saying Moore is lazy because he's fat.

Re:In an alternate reality... (5, Insightful)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547982)

Right, it's the worst atrocities, or nothing. Nobody's supposed to condemn any of the other stuff in between. Certainly they're not supposed to address the issues that they, personally, find important. What the hell would we have then? Freedom? The hell with that.

DailyKos (1)

Frankie70 (803801) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547626)

Re:DailyKos (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34547746)

Posted a video message too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY [youtube.com]

Just Leave (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34547644)

Why doesn't Michael Moore just move to a country more to his liking since he clearly hates the one he is a citizen of? Cuba, perhaps?

A lot of people here like this country just the way it is and don't want anyone, Moore, Obama, or anyone else changing it in to something else.

Leave, Michael! You'd be happier, and we'd be happier.

Re:Just Leave (5, Insightful)

BobMcD (601576) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547766)

Why doesn't Michael Moore just move to a country more to his liking since he clearly hates the one he is a citizen of? Cuba, perhaps?

A lot of people here like this country just the way it is and don't want anyone, Moore, Obama, or anyone else changing it in to something else.

Leave, Michael! You'd be happier, and we'd be happier.

If you think that allowing a government to flat out lie to us is 'loving your country', then I'd personally rather YOU leave. I don't care for Moore, but I care even less for all the sheep begging to be shorn!

Your distaste for Michael Moore is causing you to lobby against THE TRUTH for crying out loud. And I'm sorry, but that's just morally bankrupt.

Re:Just Leave (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34547828)

A lot of people here like this country just the way it is and don't want anyone, Moore, Obama, or anyone else changing it in to something else.

Yes, bigotry, corruption, protectionism, job loss due to globalization, financial fraud on a international scale, inequity, war-crimes as a result of getting into wars in countries that had nothing to do with 9/11, oligarchy, and xenophobia.

Go Team USA. You've got something to be proud about there.

Hell, the founding fathers knew that government should be watched over and made to be accountable instead of becoming despots. But, if you like the George W. Bush model of secrecy, lies, and suspension of constitutional rights, vote Palin.

A democracy which can't survive criticism and scrutiny isn't a democracy. Of course, "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave" no longer applies in America, so maybe that's what you're in favor of.

Re:Just Leave (3, Insightful)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547854)

I guess he's much like me. I love the US. I love the country, I love the people.

I just hate the government and the way it's run.

Moore Claims Credit! (0, Troll)

Geoffrey.landis (926948) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547666)

Actually: "The BBC says bail was set at 200,000 British pounds — about $317,000. A number of Assange's wealthy friends appeared in court today to pledge the funds."

So, Moore put up six percent of the bail-- but publically claims he "posted Julian Assage's Bail". Gosh.

Re:Moore Claims Credit! (4, Informative)

Bemopolis (698691) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547826)

FTFA:

I have put up $20,000 of my own money to help bail Mr. Assange out of jail. [emphasis to aid jackasses who can't fucking read]

But hey, look at me quoting what a person actually says he did instead of trusting the headline written by a Slashdot editor.

Re:Moore Claims Credit! (2)

nick357 (108909) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547832)

In the linked article he says "...I have put up $20,000 of my own money to help bail Mr. Assange out of jail...". Whoever wrote the slashdot headline is the one who said "Michael Moore Posts Julian Assange's Bail"

Re:Moore Claims Credit! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34547838)

> "So, Moore put up six percent of the bail-- but publically claims he "posted Julian Assage's Bail". Gosh." [citation needed] (and the slashdot title doesn't count)

Re:Moore Claims Credit! (1)

BaronHethorSamedi (970820) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547844)

I'm no fan of Mr. Moore, but even the summary quotes him as saying: "I have put up $20,000 of my own money to help bail Mr. Assange out of jail" (emphasis mine). I don't see where he claims he single-handedly liberated Assange. Blame the headline on the Slashdot editors.

Re:Moore Claims Credit! (1)

RealGrouchy (943109) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547884)

You must be new here.

Moore's claims were accurate. He helped bail out Assange. He posted his on money towards bail.

It is the /. submitter/editor who suggested Moore posted the entire bail.

- RG>

Re:Moore Claims Credit! (1)

Mister Furious (413397) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547928)

The article quotes Moore as saying he helped to post Assange's bail and he mentions others who also contributed. He doesn't appear to be claiming that he bailed out Assange himself.

Re:Moore Claims Credit! (1)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 3 years ago | (#34548002)

Michael Moore did not write the Slashdot headline.

Why does Moore use the word "our"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34547706)

The word Our does not belong there, because in my view there were no crimes carried out. Why does Moore want to include me in his 'Our' without asking me if I want to be part of his group? Does he have a language impediment?

Re:Why does Moore use the word "our"? (1)

Lilith's Heart-shape (1224784) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547858)

Politicians and demagogues are fond of using words like "we" and "our" as if they had the right to assume that they represented anybody but themselves.

Re:Why does Moore use the word "our"? (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547914)

(Un)fortunately the English language does not offer different words for "our" that includes speaker and audience and "our" that excludes the audience.

If you feel more like it, you can thusly decide to feel excluded.

Re:Why does Moore use the word "our"? (1)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547988)

Are you claiming that you aren't an American citizen, or that you don't pay taxes? Because otherwise, those statements are correct. He isn't saying you support his view, he was stating where those things came from. And they did, whether you think the government did right or wrong here.

War Economy (1)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547710)

'They exist to terrorize the liars and warmongers who have brought ruin to our nation and to others. Perhaps the next war won't be so easy because the tables have been turned -- and now it's Big Brother who's being watched ... by us!'

I don't see anything changing, really.

ummmm.... (2)

BigBadBus (653823) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547720)

Moore has only posted SOME of the bail money; the title of the article needs changing.

uhhhh, thanks, but... (4, Interesting)

HeckRuler (1369601) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547732)

That's probably going to hurt Julian in the long run. Michael Moore is kind of the Rush Limbaugh of the Liberals, and as odd as it is, it seems that the two-party system here has decided that Wikileaks is on the liberal side. So this will only re-enforce that.

I'm still confused why the people that are supposed to be for a smaller government would be nay saying evidence that big government is doing horrible things behind our backs.

Ron Paul supports Wikileaks (1)

pkbarbiedoll (851110) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547918)

Last I checked, Ron Paul is not a liberal.

Re:uhhhh, thanks, but... (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547976)

Uh... because they got their fingers in the pot and don't want to be caught red handed?

some kind of greasy douche singularity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34547738)

shit we are all going to die

Re:some kind of greasy douche singularity (1)

Lilith's Heart-shape (1224784) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547886)

Last time I checked, Julian Assange wasn't a fat neckbeard who didn't have the saving grace of being able to tell a compiler from a Cuisinart.

Good stuff.. (2, Funny)

NuKe_MoNgOoSe (1941452) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547756)

I love Michael Moore he is a voice of logic and even thinking in a world full of people who hang off the flag and are lead by the nose by a government who doesnt give two shits about its people against expanding its power and influence over the rest of the world. Sure, he is looking to get shot but it isnt the first time Michael has struck a blow against the establishment and I dont imagine it will be the last.

Did Michael Moore actually do something useful? (0, Flamebait)

Lilith's Heart-shape (1224784) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547780)

It's about time that fat demagogue did something besides make shitty documentaries^Wpropaganda films.

Not a Michael Moore Fan (4, Insightful)

diskofish (1037768) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547790)

I am not a Michael Moore fan, but he should be lauded for the action. Hopefully others will follow Mr. Moore's lead and take a stand for freedom of speech.

One word (1)

yvesdandoy (44789) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547818)

BRAVISSIMO !

So, (0)

unity100 (970058) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547820)

There are still citizens in u.s. who understand what freedom of speech is, what constitution is ?

that is news to me.

No money actually required (5, Informative)

maroberts (15852) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547836)

You do not have to post any actual money when you provide a surety in the UK. You only have to show that you have the sum available and are liable for the sum in the event the (alleged) offender breaches bail conditions in some significant manner. See http://www.yourrights.org.uk/yourrights/the-rights-of-defendants/bail.html [yourrights.org.uk] for a further explanation.

Oh well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34547882)

Michael Moore seemed like a reasonable man to me... before this.

OUR name and tax money? (0)

skywire (469351) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547910)

Mr. Moore falls prey to a common mistake in ethical reasoning. He says that the actions of certain states are "carried out in our name and with our tax dollars". Politicians are not anyone's agents in a legal or ethical sense, regardless of whether some of us choose to participate in the exercise in legitimacy-creation known as 'voting'. If they claim to act in "our" behalf, they are making the same mistake Moore makes, or (more likely) they are liars. Once my taxes are confiscated under threat of violence by the state, I have no ethical responsibility for how they are spent, and no standing to complain. If I am waylaid by a highwayman, and later monitor his spending habits and discover that he is using some of his funds to commit immoral acts, do I whine or hang my head over my imagined guilt? Hardly.

Sweet, Sweet Irony (4, Funny)

dcigary (221160) | more than 3 years ago | (#34547970)

If would be sweet, sweet irony if it turns out that Wikileaks has something on Michael Moore, like that's he a paid corporate shill, or that he has an account on iheart12yoldboys.com. /just sayin'

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