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McDonald's Hacked and Customer Data Stolen

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the that-meal-ain't-so-happy dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "McDonald's servers were recently compromised and hackers were able to get access to customers' e-mail addresses, names, addresses, phone numbers, birth dates, genders, as well as certain information about their promotional preferences and Web information interests. The sites affected were: McDonalds.com, 365Black.com, McDonalds.ca, mcdonaldsmom.com, mcdlive.com, monopoly.com, playatmcd.com, and meencanta.com. The restaurant chain is warning customers to be cautious of anyone claiming to be from McDonald's contacting them by phone or e-mail, and asking for personal or financial information. McDonald's has also set up a FAQ page for affected customers with 13 questions and their corresponding answers." Update by KD : Weld Pond tweets: "Silverpop email marketer owned. Was email subcontractor for McDonalds and DevientART (13M users) and 105 other orgs."

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And all the e-mails said... (5, Funny)

turbclnt (1776692) | more than 3 years ago | (#34553950)

I can has cheezburger?

Re:And all the e-mails said... (1)

Jawnn (445279) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554068)

I can has cheezburger?

You can has all cheezburgers.

Re:And all the e-mails said... (1)

IsaacD (1376213) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554706)

Oh shit! I'm screwed if my wife finds out about that McRib a couple of weeks ago!

Wait... (4, Insightful)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 3 years ago | (#34553956)

Why would any sane person possibly give McDonald's all their personal information in the first place?

Re:Wait... (5, Insightful)

wowbagger (69688) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554024)

"Why would any sane person possibly give McDonald's any of their personal information in the first place?"

Fixed that for you.

It's a damn burger, not a car - it's not like I have to finance the damn thing! I hand you money, you hand me something that, under bad light, might pass for food.

The closest they might get is if I charge the burger, and even then, all they get is a confirmation code from my credit card.

Re:Wait... (1)

drunkennewfiemidget (712572) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554078)

This is what I came here to say. I mean, I realise they say 'billions served' which means there's a whole lot of fucking morons in that collection, but at what point in your lifetime were you even asked to give McDonald's any of your information? Every single interaction with me and McDonald's in my lifetime has been:

1) Order
2) Pay
3) Receive 'food'
4) Consume 'food'
5) Regret eating 'food'
6) Spend more time on the throne than I would have liked to.

Fortunately, the last few steps have prevented me from going back there too often. Which was tougher when our son was younger and less discerning.

Re:Wait... (1)

pspahn (1175617) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554212)

Yes, billions served, but they leave out how many people were actually affected. Sure, it makes sense to not disclose that number, but I'd bet it is embarrassingly small.

Re:Wait... (3, Interesting)

Applekid (993327) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554248)

1) Order
2) Pay
3) Receive 'food'
4) Consume 'food'
5) Regret eating 'food'
6) Spend more time on the throne than I would have liked to.

It's step #2 that's the issue. People can be coerced into providing all sorts of information if you promise to send them coupons. I personally think that saving 20 cents on a fast food burger is worth giving out your email, name, address, and phone number, but, hey, I'm currently employed.

Re:Wait... (3, Funny)

DarkOx (621550) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554178)

I'd gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.

Re:Wait... (1)

Dthief (1700318) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554266)

I wouldn't.......if it was from McD's

Re:Wait... (3, Funny)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554378)

Your grasp of that joke was Wimpy.

Re:Wait... (1)

jappleng (1805148) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554826)

If it will make you feel better, I got the joke and I giggled inside. Fond, fond childhood memories. Too bad the internet has destroyed my image of Oliveoil with strange images fully utilizing her long tentacle-like arms. *ahem* Getting back on topic, I'd be willing to give them my (for registration use only) e-mail for a free burger or other coupons. After all, I have about 2000 unopened messages in that account but McD. prefers to get ALL of your info. Real shame... Oh well, I haven't eaten there in years since they reduce their burger (err meat?) size and increase the price and it's not even that good IMO. Burger King is much better, heck, even Wendy's is better. But if you want good burgers, head over to In-and-Out or Jack in a box. Mmm..... Now there's fast food money well spent.

Re:Wait... (1)

MysteriousPreacher (702266) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554892)

In and Out is a very unfortunate name for any place serving food. You're right about Wendy's. Shame they pulled out of Europe.

Re:Wait... (4, Informative)

Jaysyn (203771) | more than 3 years ago | (#34555114)

A bit pricey, but Five Guys has the best fast-food burger I've ever eaten.

Re:Wait... (1)

Cwix (1671282) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554888)

*golf clap*

Re:Wait... (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554478)

Contests.

But they need your personal information (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34554844)

To track the success of your weight loss plan...

Re:Wait... (3, Insightful)

jimbolauski (882977) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554098)

Why would any sane person possibly give McDonald's all their personal information in the first place?

The same type of people who frequent McDonalds regularly, would think it's a good idea to get the McRib is coming updates. Also if you win a prize from their monopoly game you might have to give them your info?

Re:Wait... (5, Funny)

6031769 (829845) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554142)

Also if you win a prize from their monopoly game ...

I think they prefer the term "franchise".

Re:Wait... (0)

jappleng (1805148) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554846)

You sir, have made this thread worthwhile.

Re:Wait... (2)

micksam7 (1026240) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554128)

This is primarily information used by McDonald's giveaways, such as the Monopoly promotion [wikipedia.org] when entered online.

Only names, numbers, emails, and addresses were taken.

Re:Wait... (0)

turkeydance (1266624) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554174)

why would ANYone give ANYone ANY personal information online? ANYwhere at ANYtime. i'm confused.

Re:Wait... (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554370)

why would ANYone give ANYone ANY personal information online? ANYwhere at ANYtime. i'm confused.

Yes you are.

Re:Wait... (2)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554188)

Try something:

Sit down in front of a McD and offer anyone who hands you their name, address, phone number and email a free hamburger.

Bet you go home with more than 100 addresses after, say, 3 hours.

Re:Wait... (2)

Dthief (1700318) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554292)

I bet 99 of those are "fake" [i.e. not where the person lives] addresses, and the 1 address that isn't fake has nothing to steal

Re:Wait... (0)

PlusFiveTroll (754249) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554514)

You underestimate how stupid the vast majority of people are.

Politicians have figured out the most of us are stupid cows waiting for slaughter. That's why we keep getting screwed every election.

Re:Slaughter (1)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | more than 3 years ago | (#34555512)

(Rhetoric)
I am not a stupid cow waiting for slaughter! I am unique! I celebrate my identity that lets me stand out from the crowds! I am an Archeopteryx! However, unique still doesn't beget intelligence, so they'll still get me, just with different tricks.
(/Rhetoric)

Re:Wait... (2)

guyminuslife (1349809) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554986)

Not if you stood outside a McDonald's and bought them the hamburger personally. Most people would feel like they owed you, even if it was only a hamburger, and feel bad if they were dishonest about it. Like, all you wanted to do was buy them a hamburger, it's the least they can do!

Put it on a sign-up sheet, you know? Makes it look less seedy.

Of course I'm one to talk...I would lie. (And I have, in exactly that situation, except with better sandwiches.) Maybe not about my name. But everything else, yeah.

Re:Wait... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34554910)

So if I give you a phone book, you'll give me 30,000 hamburgers? Sounds like a deal!

Re:Wait... (3, Insightful)

crashandburn66 (1290292) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554454)

McDonald's takes job applications online via their web site. Last time I checked, job applications ask for your personal information.

Re:Wait... (2)

gustgr (695173) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554548)

It also takes on-line take-out orders in several places of the world, which also requires personal information -- at least a name and an address, but I suppose they ask for more info than that on the order form.

Re:Wait... (1)

magarity (164372) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554756)

It also takes on-line take-out orders in several places of the world, which also requires personal information -- at least a name and an address, but I suppose they ask for more info than that on the order form.

There are places where McDonald's provides *delivery* which definitely requires a name and an address.

Re:Wait... (1)

istartedi (132515) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554886)

I suspect it was some promo, like those receipts that say "answer our survey and get a chance for a free burger". I've always said you'd win a lifetime supply of spam. This just proves it.

Because we know too little to not ask about more. (1)

jbn-o (555068) | more than 3 years ago | (#34555076)

Because many people are poor and lack the opportunities to get a better job than one can get working for McDonald's. Consider that we don't know the full extent of what McDonald's kept in the compromised systems. We only know from the article that McDonald's was willing to admit the data included "customers' e-mail addresses, names, addresses, phone numbers, birth dates, genders, as well as certain information about their promotional preferences and Web information interests". We don't know how the McDonald's corporation servers are organized, segregated, or if McDonald's is telling the complete truth. It's reasonable to wonder if other data was also copied.

Re:Wait... (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 3 years ago | (#34555108)

Why would any sane person possibly give McDonald's all their personal information in the first place?

Why would any sane person possibly eat in McDonald's in the first place?

And of course, even if you were so moved to have a McRib value meal, you are correct: Why would you even consider giving them your email address, name, etc?

Contests (1)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 3 years ago | (#34555180)

You had to enter this info to play the Monopoly online contest.

Which is actually reasonable since they need some way to contact you and verify your identity in the case of you winning a major prize.

Re:Wait... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34555334)

Because they're Windows users.

(Somebody please, please mod this as insightful. Because, it is).

Re: (1)

mugetsu37 (1485997) | more than 3 years ago | (#34553962)

Oh no, all those late night drive-thrus, known to the world!

why ?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34553984)

why do people even give this kind of information to a burger flipper ?
Is it the same gene that makes people want to go eat there that also makes them do things like this ?

Re:why ?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34554144)

Or it could be ex-employees signing up their boss to sites like these. It's like giving them the final "fuck you too" on the way out.

Re:why ?! (1)

houghi (78078) | more than 3 years ago | (#34555282)

Worse, it is the same people that vote.

Suspect identified (5, Funny)

fridaynightsmoke (1589903) | more than 3 years ago | (#34553990)

Police say they're looking for a short chubby-faced man with ginger hair, wearing a black-and-white striped outfit, a black eye mask, red gloves, a black cape with yellow lining and a red tie with hamburger detail. The man is linked to previous thefts of foodstuffs (primarily hamburgers) from McDonalds.

Re:Suspect identified (1)

countSudoku() (1047544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554162)

Is that you, Hamburgler? Trying to frame Ronald again? For shame. No burgers for you, sir!

If this had been a loss of important data, heads would roll. In this case, the status of my McDonald's Monopoly Game tokens may have leaked to the public eye and Mark Zukerburg strikes again. Why do we even need passwords anymore? All data is now public... 8^)

Re:Suspect identified (1)

pixelpusher220 (529617) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554200)

You sir win a prize!

but first we need your name, number, address....

The BIG question ... (1)

neonprimetime (528653) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554418)

... why would you give your personal information to McDonalds?

Re:Suspect identified (4, Funny)

bughunter (10093) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554772)

Overheard at the scene:

"Robble, robble!"

Re:Suspect identified (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34555110)

Sounds like the Big Mac attack was a smashing success

My McRib Addiction (1)

BigSes (1623417) | more than 3 years ago | (#34553992)

Known to the world...oh the shame! /kill self

Hamburgler strikes again! (1)

AbRASiON (589899) | more than 3 years ago | (#34553994)

Robble Robble Robble!

!admin (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34553996)

They were probably using HP MSA2000 Arrays..

I can has (1)

santax (1541065) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554002)

Big Database?

Re:I can has (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34554140)

Big Database?

Supersize that database.

Re:I can has (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554236)

Want some fries with that?

Or in this case rather, want some spam with it?

This reminds me.... (3, Interesting)

f3rret (1776822) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554088)

A while back while WiFi was still new and shiny; and before people had figured the whole "put a password on it"-thing, a friend and I were out wardriving, we came across an open network that turned out to belong to a local Micky D's. Connected to the network and saw a single computer running on it, a little poking at it revealed it to be running some flavor of windows XP and some more poking revealed it to have a blank admin password.
So when we connected to the standard "C" (or whatever the standard network share is called, I forget) network share and found a huge excel document in the root of said drive, downloaded it and found it to contain all the information - addresses, phone numbers, SSNs and e-mail addresses - of the employees of said Micky D's.

Cool story, huh?

Re:This reminds me.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34554246)

It's not 'cool.' Sadly it's not even surprising.

Re:This reminds me.... (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554402)

It would be cool if you ended the story with "And then my friend and I were struck by out an out of control semi doing about 90mph, and now I'm typing from my wheelchair using a straw to the rhythm of my ventilator."

Re:This reminds me.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34554512)

Congrats, you get to answer 'yes' when ever you fill out a form asking if you've illegally accessed a computer you aren't supposed to access. That and wire fraud. enjoy.

Re:This reminds me.... (1, Funny)

f3rret (1776822) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554566)

Wire fraud? But we did it via a wireLESS network :(

Re:This reminds me.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34554848)

wireless with no password and a computer with no admin password, that's about as invited as it gets. as long as they didn't use the information they got for anything then they would have a good chance of getting off the charges with no conviction.

if there was a WEP password or any sort of "your not allowed here" or "Authorised users only" sort of notification then your right.

also, wire fraud? what fraud was committed?

Re:This reminds me.... (0)

f3rret (1776822) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554994)

We didn't really do anything with it, we just saw a file with an interesting name, opened it and looked at it and went "huh, how about that, what a stupid way to secure sensitive data" and then went on our merry way.

Re:This reminds me.... (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554916)

Bullshit. You can't (and never could) access those hidden shares with a blank password.

Re:This reminds me.... (2)

koro666 (947362) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554962)

I believe you could before XP Service Pack 2 (which kinda reinforced security).

Re:This reminds me.... (1)

f3rret (1776822) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554976)

Well the share wasn't hidden, it showed up on the "browse network" screen and there was no password, just the username "Administrator"

Huh? (1)

oldhack (1037484) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554110)

Who register their email, etc. with Mickey D?

Re:Huh? (1)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554194)

People that think they'll get coupons, 5% off, free shit.
The same reason people give away their info to business.

Re:Huh? (1)

orphiuchus (1146483) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554326)

Hey, that 5% really adds up over a month. *struggles to roll onto his side, runs out of breath, gives up*

Re:Huh? (1)

Quirkz (1206400) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554368)

Anybody who wants a second chance at the Monopoly game. Most people will give away more than that for a shot at a million bucks.

McDonalds doesn't cater to Vegetarians (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554126)

Now if they hack Burger King or the Pho King then I'm hosed.

Big Deal? (3, Interesting)

SilverHatHacker (1381259) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554190)

Sure, in principle its a bad thing, but I'd be willing to bet that 95% of those people had that exact same information on their Facebook, effectively available to the world anyway.

Re:Big Deal? (1)

Beerdood (1451859) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554394)

Yea, what I was thinking exactly. This could be one of the most useless & non-damaging data breaches I've ever heard of. Some phone numbers, addresses and names.. What's exactly is a hacker going to do with this information?

Re:Big Deal? (3, Funny)

Smallpond (221300) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554896)

Yea, what I was thinking exactly. This could be one of the most useless & non-damaging data breaches I've ever heard of. Some phone numbers, addresses and names.. What's exactly is a hacker going to do with this information?

Sell it to Jenny Craig?

The Draft (1, Interesting)

drumcat (1659893) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554208)

Remember, 40 years ago it was a scandal that the free happy meal postcard you filled out was how you were tracked for the draft. My dad taught me this lesson early on, and it's nothing but magnified. BTW, Thank You EFF for winning today!

Re:The Draft (4, Informative)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554534)

The Happy meal is only 30 years old. 1979. The draft ended in 1973.

So either you are trying to be funny, or your dad is an idiot.

Re:The Draft (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34554620)

Why can't it be both? It's like I was telling a friend who talked about seeing a man or woman walking downtown with a tail sticking out of their clothes.

"Here in Portland, that isn't an either/or statement." --Not a joke.

Re:The Draft (-1, Troll)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554710)

2010-1979 = 31

might want to get your basic math down before you go calling some one's dad an idiot

Re:The Draft (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#34555038)

so not 40; which was my point. Yeah, so I threw down a quick number.

It would be like me bitching about your punctuation and grammar. Besides the point.

So in short, fuck you.

Re:The Draft (-1, Troll)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 3 years ago | (#34555352)

fuck me cause you cant do simple math while calling someone an idiot?

ok then, please don't piss your pants over it trolltard

Draft registration did not end in 1973 ... (1)

perpenso (1613749) | more than 3 years ago | (#34555300)

The draft may have ended in 1973 but draft registration did not. Registration may still be the law, I think I noticed the registration cards in the post office recently.

That said, the GP's story is silly. The gov't already has your SSN, school records, etc.

Re:The Draft (1)

gmhowell (26755) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554536)

Happy meals 40 years ago?

You got trolled by your dad. Awesome.

Re:The Draft (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34554768)

This [snopes.com] is the story you're all looking for.

Dangit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34554254)

Now somebody will know my McDonalds password.

Explaining proverbs 101 (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554258)

Today: "Adding insult to injury".

and the most secret information is that ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34554262)

those dudes like to go to McDonald!

The question when you sign up for something... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34554318)

"Would you like to super-size your credit report?"

Me And Spam Are Like Green Eggs And Ham (1)

jareth780 (176411) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554400)

Those emails are already compromised by spammers, since I use them to communicate with family members, and they all distribute my address in those idiotic email forwards. They also get their laptops pwned once a month for good measure.

McDonald's Sucks (-1, Troll)

Stregano (1285764) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554416)

There food is horrible, they try to hype up the McRib, but it tastes like a charred hamster with cheap government sanctioned bbq sauce on it. Their prices are cheap as it is. If you need a coupon, stop eating at Mickey D's. Let's see, how else can I put this: stupid fat people do stupid things, like get promised for fattening foods to stuff their faces with so they will give them a copy of their ssn, driver's license and birth certificate for that to happen.

If you are offended by me calling people fat, I am 250lbs and am about 5'10. I can say it because I am it (I am also Irish and rip on Irish people, so its all good).

I, for one, was smart enough to never give them my information. So Mc Fail Burger can go to hell, since I feel no remorse for the stupid fat people wanting to sue now

Re:McDonald's Sucks (1)

imsabbel (611519) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554518)

I like McDonalds.
I have to admit this are european McDonalds (the ones in the US I have been at looked more like a miniature Ghetto), but once a month or so it does not hurt.

On the other hand, I am 1.85m and 90Kg, so it seems you not liking McDonalds doesnt work out for you, fatty.

Re:McDonald's Sucks (1)

Stregano (1285764) | more than 3 years ago | (#34555088)

On the other hand, I am 1.85m and 90Kg, so it seems you not liking McDonalds doesnt work out for you, fatty.

You can't say that word! Only we can say that word!

Re:McDonald's Sucks (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554556)

Why do you assume they are fat? why do you assume they are stupid? just becasue you can't control your calories, doesn't mean nobody can.

Re:McDonald's Sucks (1)

Stregano (1285764) | more than 3 years ago | (#34555036)

I guess it is -1 time:
1st off, how many people do you know that go to McDonald's on a regular basis? How many of those people go so much to where they are willing to give McDonald's their information for coupons? Go ahead, tell me if those ones are overweight.

Just a single Hamburger (not cheeseburger, but hamburger) is 250 calories. Can you tell me a single person that will count calories at McDonald's? Ok, there may be a couple that do that.

Next, as for me controlling my own calories, I am doing a great job. See, now you are assuming that since I am overweight, that I am not controlling my calories. About 2 years ago, I weighed in at about 315lbs. I went from 315-250 and am still going strong. I control my calories very well. To assume that I do not control my calories because I am overweight and think that Mc Greasy Fatty Fat Fat sucks.

Next off, do you know a single person that is not dumb that will blindly give out their personal information for small promotional things? "Here sir, take all of my information and I might get a free cheeseburger or maybe $1 off the MSG Supreme". Really. Really?

The fat assumption was done because I do not know a single frequent McDonald's goer that is skinny. Do you know a few? You are seriously the random exception. I used to live in Omaha, which (it still might be, I am unsure) at one point very recently, had more restaurants per capita than any other city in America. Google it if you don't believe me. If anybody knows fast food goers, it would be a person that spend 27 years of their life at a place that per capita had more restaurants than any other city in the country. Frequent McDonalds goers that go so much to where they want coupons to make it cheaper are fat. That is fact. If you know a person that is not that way, you are a random exception.

P.S. - The McRib tastes like butthole. Always has and always will.

Re:McDonald's Sucks (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 3 years ago | (#34555010)

There food is horrible

Did you misspell "their" or just drop a comma? Either way it makes sense!

it tastes like a charred hamster

Where do you get charred hamster? I can't even get cuy [slashfood.com] around here.

Re:McDonald's Sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34555234)

Where do you get charred hamster?

pet store?

McDonalds, serving millions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34554446)

McDonalds, serving millions of future Cancer Patients. Today.

For the 100th time... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34554450)

...would someone PLEASE post the OS that is running on all of these hacked servers? Sheesh.

I just hope ... (1)

mawe (1247174) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554852)

... that my diet doesn't find any of my accounts in that data.

Ronald McDonald needs help from Nigeria (1)

ruthless reader (1892470) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554868)

Hello, My name name is Ronald McDonald from McDonald's. My Uncle who used to reside in Nigeria died recently and left me an inheritance of $5 million. If you are interested in earning 10% of this amount...

Wtf is Mcdlive.com? (1)

levinsontodd (989562) | more than 3 years ago | (#34554952)

Who goes to the mcdonalds web site? Do you need to check out the menu?

Correction to that tweet... (1)

Arrogant-Bastard (141720) | more than 3 years ago | (#34555098)

...it should read "Silverpop spammers". They have a LONG history which is well known to everyone working in the field, and be readily accessed by anyone who can use a search engine (or check the Internet Archive).

Note carefully: This doesn't mean that every message they've sent is spam -- most competent spammers these days mix spam and non-spam because it's a highly effective tactic. This also doesn't mean that every customer of theirs hired them to spam -- again, most competent spammers have a mix of customers because that also is a highly effective tactic.

But they ARE spammers.

cool (1)

deseipel (1385271) | more than 3 years ago | (#34555304)

when I submitted this 5 hrs ago.

let me just say (1)

nimbius (983462) | more than 3 years ago | (#34555408)

the lengths to which McDonalds fanatics will go to secure another years appearance of the dreaded "McRib" sandwitch has stooped to a new low.

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