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Designer Arrested Over Anonymous Press Release

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the opposite-of-anonymous dept.

Crime 288

An anonymous reader writes "A Greek designer named Alex Tapanaris, whose name appeared on the PDF press release circulated by online trouble-makers Anonymous has had his web site disappeared and, according to reports, the unfortunate chap has been arrested. THINQ managed to talk to Alex on the phone, and while he wouldn't confirm his arrest, he 'certainly sounded spooked,' the web site reports. 'No comment,' he said and hung up. The press release sought to explain Anonymous's aims and lack of any formal organization. It explained that the Anonymous name is applied to a shifting roster of individuals who come together on an ad hoc basis, depending on individual concerns and practical, day-to-day matter such as who happens to be online at the time. Clicking on the document's properties revealed Tapanaris as its named author."

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Geniuses (0)

devbox (1919724) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566080)

Attacking financial services, banks and government websites is probably the best idea in the world.

Re:Geniuses (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566124)

Attacking financial services, banks and government websites is probably the best idea in the world.

Yes, it is when you're anonymous. Nobody can stop us, nobody can find us. We won't make the same mistake again.
__
A Tapanaris

Re:Geniuses (1, Offtopic)

icebike (68054) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566180)

Mod parent LOL...

ANONYMOUS (2, Funny)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566850)

"You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.."

-- Inigo Montoya

Oblig. XKCD (4, Funny)

Weaselmancer (533834) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566402)

And it's even today's comic:

XKCD 834. [xkcd.com]

Proof Positive (4, Interesting)

frovingslosh (582462) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566430)

Clicking on the document's properties revealed Tapanaris as its named author

Well that settles it then, because these computer people would never figure out that you could put the name of someone that you don't like in a document like this and cause them problems too while you are doing your original mischief.

Re:Proof Positive (3, Funny)

mark72005 (1233572) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566624)

Sounds like an elite group of hackers.

Re:Proof Positive (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566944)

Hackers on steroids.

Re:Proof Positive (5, Interesting)

arivanov (12034) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566792)

Especially considering the fact that Tapanaris means more or less "Thick as a Brick" in more than one language in countries neighbouring Greece to the north.

This smacks of a rather unintentional Bulgarian or Serbian practical joke. Whoever did it did not expect that there may be a real person whose name in Bulgarian or Serbian translates more or less as "Alex The Village Idiot". The most hilarious case of mistaken identity I have heard of for a long time (for everyone but the poor greek).

Re:Proof Positive (1)

MPAB (1074440) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566966)

You mean it's really Jethro Tull's Ian Anderson in disguise?

Re:Proof Positive (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566926)

All I can say is, if I had created such a PDF, which I didn't, and wouldn't...but if I were to do something like this, you know, hypothetically speaking, the properties of the PDF would show the author as someone I didn't like and its origination online would be from an IP address plausibly linked to that person.

Re:Proof Positive (1)

Applekid (993327) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566964)

Without looking at the PDF, if I thought to check out the Author metadata, I would have expected to see Eric "eBaum" Bauman instead, considering it IS Anonymous, after all.

Game over for anon. (1)

elucido (870205) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566642)

Authorities know who they are and are using this guy to prove a point.

No, you've missed the point (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566670)

Anonymous knows that it isn't a collection of geniuses. What it does know is that it has the power of a mob. Arrest one person in a mob? You still have a mob.

They know that some of them are going to get busted. See party van [urbandictionary.com] for clarification.

Re:No, you've missed the point (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566722)

Anonymous knows that it isn't a collection of geniuses. What it does know is that it has the power of a mob. Arrest one person in a mob? You still have a mob.

They know that some of them are going to get busted. See party van [urbandictionary.com] for clarification.

It will be like Al Qaeda, only the dumb assess join up now and manage to burn off their penises or blow themselves up prematurely before getting to their target. Those with half a brain will not find this fight worth the risk.

Re:No, you've missed the point (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566778)

Arrest a couple people in a mob. Throw a couple of tear gas bombs. Pull out the guns that shoot those rubber bullets. Mob runs; it is gone. No more mob.

Re:Geniuses (2)

icebike (68054) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566166)

And being silly enough to do it with software that attaches your credentials is an even dumber idea.

Guilt by assosciation? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566398)

It could very well be that he made the info site about anonymous without having participated in the attacks against banks, etc... Just because he in some way assosciates himself with the anonymous, some of whom do occasional crimes, doesn't really prove that he is a criminal... But well, I'm interested to see how this one turns out.

Re:Guilt by assosciation? (1)

icebike (68054) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566592)

It may be proof enough for Turkey.

He will be considered a subversive. (1)

elucido (870205) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566656)

Subversive revolutionaries are usually mistreated by the authorities in any country. Governments hate subversives.

Re:He will be considered a subversive. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566866)

Subversive revolutionaries are usually mistreated by the authorities in any country. Governments hate subversives.

Or he could just be an asshole. Should we make every asshole we meet into an instant messiah/martyr? Could it be this is why nobody takes your wannabe-revolutionary screeds seriously?

Re:Geniuses (1)

Charliemopps (1157495) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566620)

yea, if I were to do anything like this it would be inside a virtual machine, on someone else's hijacked computer in some other country.

Re:Geniuses (5, Funny)

puto (533470) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566580)

Yes, because the Greeks are sooooooooooo calm. They set their own ministry of finance on fire today.

Oh yeah biznitches (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566106)

Jesus loves you this you know
'cause this first post tells you so

First post for Jesus. Keepin it real. Steady rollin, holy rollin.

Congratulations (1)

TheL0ser (1955440) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566138)

Clicking on the document's properties revealed Tapanaris as its named author.

Congratulations, Mr. Tapanaris, you've won the "Wow, I'm an idiot for signing an 'anonymous' document" prize!

Re:Congratulations (1)

skids (119237) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566260)

Or the: "lets employees use his login profile" award.

Re:Congratulations (2)

Jeremy Erwin (2054) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566382)

Well, he probably used software that he used in his design business. For a designer, anonymity is normally counterproductive, and in any case, non free software encourages or even requires"registration".

He should have burned a LiveCD, and used the tools on that to maintain a semblance of anonymity.

Re:Congratulations (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566456)

Who says someone else didn't sign his name? Now, given that I read just the summary, not the article, maybe I'm missing something.

Re:Congratulations (1)

arivanov (12034) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566880)

He may. Especially if you consider that "Tapanaris" means more or less Village Idiot in two languages spoken on the north side of the greek border.

So I strongly suspect that he has very little in common with Anonymous. A case of mixing "mistaken identity" and "cruel "Balkan neigbourly relations" joke.

And this is why... (1)

Epsilon Moonshade (108853) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566144)

... if you're going to do something dodgy, you put fake names into your software registration fields. :p

Re:And this is why... (2)

Hope Thelps (322083) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566184)

... if you're going to do something dodgy, you put fake names into your software registration fields. :p

In fact, if you do anything at all you put fake names into your software registration. This time it was only the police that got him - next time it could be telemarketers.

Re:And this is why... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566436)

Or even worse the BSA

Re:And this is why... (5, Funny)

spun (1352) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566614)

NOBODY expects the Business Software Alliance! Our chief weapon is surprise. Surprise and fear. Fear and surprise. Our two chief weapons are fear, surprise, and unlimited duration copyrights. Our THREE weapons are fear, surprise, unlimited duration copyrights, and employees who hate their bosses. Our FOUR, no... amongst our weapons... amongst our weaponry... are such elements... as fear, surprise... can I come in again?

Re:And this is why... (1)

gblackwo (1087063) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566274)

Maybe Alex. T. was the fake name.

Re:And this is why... (1)

grub (11606) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566570)

In your best Fight Club voice:

His name was Alex Tapanaris!
His name was Alex Tapanaris!
His name was Alex Tapanaris!
His name was Alex Tapanaris!
His name was Alex Tapanaris!
His name was Alex Tapanaris!
His name was Alex Tapanaris! ...

Re:And this is why... (4, Funny)

Minwee (522556) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566320)

That's why I always register my software with an obviously fake name like "Alex Tapanaris".

Re:And this is why... (1)

countSudoku() (1047544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566450)

NO, I'm Alex Tapanaris...

Fellow mad scientists and evil doers, take note! Be sure and sign your manifesto ONLY if you want the credit up front, otherwise nix the author name field and take down the neon "We're Anonymous in here!" sign off the storefront. Good ideas both. Good luck, sirs!

Deep 13, out.

Re:And this is why... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566852)

His name was Alex Tapanaris. His name was Alex Tapanaris. His name was Alex Tapanaris.

Re:And this is why... (1)

killmenow (184444) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566956)

Just checked my software registration info. Yep, registered to one "Mr Nunya Biznes" as expected.

Is this even a story? (4, Insightful)

jandrese (485) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566152)

When someone is arrested, isn't there a public record of it? Why not call the local police to verify instead of calling the guy directly? In fact being able to call him directly suggest that he has not been arrested.

Creating a press release describing how Anonymous isn't some group with centralized leadership doesn't seem like a crime to me either.

I can't help but to think that this sounds like media whoring at its worst. Basically a big prank pulled on the public at large.

Re:Is this even a story? (0)

devbox (1919724) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566248)

It might be surprising, but the rest of the world doesn't always work the same way as US. We also value privacy and don't release public records on just arrests and people could be arrested, questioned and released to wait for outcome if there is no threat to anyone or reason to believe he might try to flee the country, for example.

Re:Is this even a story? (2)

jandrese (485) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566838)

Wow, so midnight "disappearances" of people in other countries is just the government respecting the individual's privacy? I never looked at it that way before.

Re:Is this even a story? (2)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566276)

Just because he was arrested doesn't mean he was actually charged with anything, or still being held. He could have been released and thus perfectly able to answer his phone. Of course, just because they didn't have enough to hold/charge him doesn't mean they didn't have enough to get an order to wire tap him in hopes that he'd say some dumb, incriminating shit to people.

Re:Is this even a story? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566282)

> I can't help but to think that this sounds like media whoring at its worst. Basically a big prank pulled on the public at large.

To think that Anonymous would be capable of such a thing!!

Arrest isn't the worst possibility (2, Interesting)

elucido (870205) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566296)

The worst possibility is to be stalked by legions of anti-wikileaks vigilantes.

This guys life may very well be ruined over this as now he's going to face the Greek version of COINTELPRO. Read about operation Gladio.

And because he's Greek the CIA, NSA and US Military can use full force on him. They don't even have to pretend to respect his human rights or civil rights like they would if he were an American. Extrajudicial justice from the vigilantes will be what he could face just by having associated himself with this sort of manifesto.

It's like having signed your name to the US Constitution or Communist Manifesto and somehow it leaks out and now they all know who you are and where you live.

That's a hell of a citation! (1)

TheSpoom (715771) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566304)

When someone is arrested, isn't there a public record of it? Why not call the local police to verify instead of calling the guy directly?

Oh, they have their sources.

A bloke named Alex Tapanaris, whose name appeared on the PDF press release circulated by online trouble-makers Anonymous has had his web site disappeared from the web and, according to a post on pastebin.com, the unfortunate chap has been arrested.

Everyone knows that pastebin is irrefutable.

Re:Is this even a story? (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566568)

In the US yes but I don't think this was in the US. The story said was Greek but that doesn't mean that he was in Greece. Plus do we have hard date besides a link in pastebin?

sage sage (1)

GhettoFabulous (644312) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566162)

sage

Question? (1)

Barrinmw (1791848) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566196)

If I come out with a press release saying that "Us KKK members killed hundreds of black people." I wouldn't be arrested right? I mean, I am saying I am part of a group that committed murder but that isn't enough to arrest me right?

Re:Question? (2)

RightSaidFred99 (874576) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566294)

Associating your name with authorship of a document describing illegal activity is probable cause, and yes it is enough to arrest (at least in US, apparently Greece) someone, but probably not enough on its own for a conviction.

Re:Question? (1)

Barrinmw (1791848) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566352)

Well I guess I better never say I want to be anonymous on the internet ever again...

Re:Question? (1)

entotre (1929174) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566326)

Ask the oracle..

Re:Question? (1)

ocdscouter (1922930) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566766)

I'm sorry, Mr. Ellison is on a boat right now. Would you like to be transferred to his voicemail?

Re:Question? (1)

Tetsujin (103070) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566412)

If I come out with a press release saying that "Us KKK members killed hundreds of black people." I wouldn't be arrested right? I mean, I am saying I am part of a group that committed murder but that isn't enough to arrest me right?

If the regular police didn't come after you for that, the grammar police might.

Re:Question? (1)

Barrinmw (1791848) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566488)

Mine grammar is bad upon thine ocular thing-a-ma-jigs.

For somebody who is "in" Anon.. (0)

Stregano (1285764) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566210)

He sure is not very anonymous. Come on now kid, if you are in a group that is attacking big name sites, are you honestly dumb enough to put your real name into software registration? I know you didn't pay for the software. Wait, he got arrested, so apparently he is that dumb.

And people are getting all up in arms about the skiddies. That is too funny. Hey, you can get a group of 10,000 retards together and they can cause some havoc, but in the end, it is still a group of 10,000 retards

He better be spooked. (2, Insightful)

elucido (870205) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566476)

The government vigilantes mean business and are completely ruthless. He just got outed as being a member of anonymous, this is like being outed as a communist back during the anti-communist era.

At this point counter intelligence agencies are going to run his name through their national security databases. Then they'll find out what they can use against him, or what they can use to entrap and or destroy him. Then they'll give that information to the anti-wikileaks vigilantes [nowpublic.com]

You can bet on that.

Why will they go after him? To get the names and identities of the others.

Focus on the Drama, not the important cables. (5, Insightful)

notque (636838) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566214)

The news media continues to focus on the drama surrounding Wikileaks and Anonymous instead of focusing on the cables.

How many US new organizations reported on the Cable from Tegucigalpa detailing that the Honduras Coup was illegitimate? This was a big news story, and an important situation in Honduras that has immediate impact on understanding the Obama administration.

It also shows that the Obama administration lied, and helped support the coup government by their actions.

So.. who is covering it? And compare that to another article on the drama surrounding it.

And that's just one cable. How many more will come out of great importance that everyone will ignore to instead focus on what Assange is doing.

It's not Assange or Anons fault, it's the News doing it. But this is their out.

This allows them to totally ignore the importance of the cables. And keep repeating that "nothing significant" is coming out.

Re:Focus on the Drama, not the important cables. (4, Interesting)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566542)

OK, all you did was find a cable from the U.S. Embassy in Honduras that reflects the position taken by the Obama Administration at the time that the Legislature and Supreme Court of Honduras got the Honduran Army to remove the President of Honduras (who just about everybody agrees was committing a crime defined by the Honduran Constitution at the time). It does not show that the Obama Administration lied or that it supported the "coup" government, since the Obama Administration opposed the coup government, even to the point of suggesting that they would not recognize the results of the previously scheduled election.

Re:Focus on the Drama, not the important cables. (3, Funny)

booyabazooka (833351) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566610)

Stop mentioning these things, damnit, I'm not allowed to read about them! I'm just here for the drama.

This isn't news this is Gossip. (2)

medv4380 (1604309) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566660)

Do you even know what you are talking about? What part of Coup do you think people don't understand? What happened in Honduras was a Coup and everyone knew that long before the Cables came out. All the cables expose is some diplomats opinion of how Honduras should have delt with the Coup. Like the crew that just took over the ship is going to have a trial about how that was not legal. Since when is a Coup legal? Who cares that behind closed doors our diplomats were cursing up a storm. In the end their job is to work with who ever is in charge. We have the choice of withdrawing from the world and saying what we really think of dictators to their faces or we can play in the world and talk behind their backs as long as we don't say it directly to their faces.
This isn't news this is Gossip!

Re:Focus on the Drama, not the important cables. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566816)

The news media continues to focus on the drama surrounding Wikileaks and Anonymous instead of focusing on the cables.

Well, yeah. Anonymous and wikileaks are sexy and interesting. Every cable I've read so far demonstrates that the American diplomats have a (very surprisingly) high level of competence approaching baseline or is about an American diplomat comparing Russia's Prime Minister to Batman.

I mean, I can see why you went the hyperbole and a half route there -- "President of America supports coup" is much sexier than "American diplomats prove to have no involvement with coup, are not willing to militarily invade to restore prior government" as far as conspiracy theories go -- but the whole point of Wikileaks is to leak real information, not to write up your own. For that, you need Wikipedia.

Re:Focus on the Drama, not the important cables. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566828)

Probably because the truth is that there wasn't much interesting in the cables. The US does horrible things in the world, but we know about these already. The real intrigue in international affairs comes from the less transparent governments (Russia, China).

Re:Focus on the Drama, not the important cables. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566904)

Oh yeah Honduras makes really great Coups like the Accord!

Whoops (4, Insightful)

The MAZZTer (911996) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566218)

Word processors that remember your name and fill in author metadata for you are sure helpful, aren't they?

Re:Whoops (1)

Thelasko (1196535) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566820)

That's why there's Doc Scrubber. [javacoolsoftware.com]

Re:Whoops (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566856)

Word processors that remember your name and fill in author metadata for you are sure helpful, aren't they?

That's why I always use suitably generic 'names' for those sorts of things, like:

"Windows User" or "Apple User" or "MSOffice User"

It satisfies the software (some of which absolutely insist that you give them something in order to use it) but if the 'name' ever leaks out it doesn't draw attention to itself and is yet totally generic.

Re:Whoops (1)

hey! (33014) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566862)

Word processors that remember your name and fill in author metadata for you are sure helpful, aren't they?

No they're not. If you doubt me, I'll forward you the memo. Check the metadata and you'll see that it's from the desk of God Almighty Himself.

Noose tightens on anon as the vigilantes gather (0)

elucido (870205) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566236)

This situation is exactly the situation I warned about. I said cyber vigilantes would find these anonymous Wikileaks supporters. I also said cyber vigilantes from anonymous would find the anti wikileaks opponents. The anonymous crowd or not, hacked McDonald's and Gawker's 1.5 million user database complete with passwords which will surely be leveraged by hackers to dig into their lives.

The cyberwar is going to be ugly as the victims mount up. It's vigilante group vs vigilante group and the only people we should feel for as the civilians in between. They don't deserve to be stalked merely for speaking out for or against Wikileaks. They don't deserve the gangstalking BS.

What can be done to protect innocent civilians from the fallout?

Re:Noose tightens on anon as the vigilantes gather (1)

Mitchell314 (1576581) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566374)

What can be done to protect innocent civilians from the fallout?

Stay anonymous.

How? Hack into someones WIFI network? (1)

elucido (870205) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566530)

Because if you use your computer you wont be anonymous. If you use the library computer then you are on camera and not anonymous. If you use an internet cafe they'll ask who was on the computer at that time and so you aren't anonymous.

It's a lot harder to be anonymous than you might have thought. It's not impossible but it's not something a 16 year old hacker can do from their living room or a 40 year old hacker can do from his parents basement. It's something a sophisticated Russia or Chinese state sponsored hacker could do, or an experienced amateur hacker could do.

Re:How? Hack into someones WIFI network? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566796)

Wardriving is fairly anonymous and there's no shortage of unprotected WIFI these days. You spoof your MAC address and there is little left to identify you by.

So stupidly retarded (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566240)

Seriously, a name in a document led to an arrest?
Confirmed for law: write the name of your enemies in a document threatening another persons life or business and you can get them arrested!

Jesus, i hope it isn't serious, otherwise those people are terribly stupid.

What could possibly be the charge? (5, Interesting)

Dr. Spork (142693) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566264)

Is he charged with designing graphics? With sympathizing with an unsavory group? How the heck would that arrest warrant look? How is the creation of that document even something in the vicinity of a crime?

Re:What could possibly be the charge? (5, Funny)

Minwee (522556) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566364)

How is the creation of that document even something in the vicinity of a crime?

He used the Comic Sans font.

Re:What could possibly be the charge? (3)

forkfail (228161) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566370)

He was also guilty of facecrime [wikipedia.org] ; that's what put the authorities on his trail in the first place...

Re:What could possibly be the charge? (1)

jpapon (1877296) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566508)

Are denial of service "attacks" even a crime? If I get a few thousand of my friends to drive down a road at a particular time to create a traffic jam, is that a crime?

I'm really asking...

Re:What could possibly be the charge? (1)

Dr. Spork (142693) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566668)

It's an interesting question that might be unsettled in some jurisdictions. About the intentionally-caused traffic jam, I bet that would be a crime in the US, but I don't know the law well enough to know what the exact charge would be. But in any case, there is no indication that authorities have any evidence that this guy did any denial of service attacks. It sounds to me like they're intimidating him into snitching on others. I don't see why else they would mess with him. No court in a first world country would convict a guy for writing a press release... I would hope!

Re:What could possibly be the charge? (1)

Pharmboy (216950) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566754)

Are denial of service "attacks" even a crime?

I hope so. If not, what would stop your competitor from simply swamping your ecommerce servers with garbage to hurt your sales and presumably improve their own? How is a DDOS any different than blocking the entrance to a brick and mortar business to prevent customers from entering? In both cases, you are simply jamming up entry to a place of commerce to prevent the company from doing regular business. Should Coca Cola Corporation be allowed to constantly attack Pepsi's website and prevent customers from reaching it? I'm using commerce as an example because it is most obvious, but even a blog has as much right of expression as a corporation. So far.

There are appropriate times to break the law, to make a political point, and I'm all for the appropriate use of civil disobedience, but I'm not so convinced that what Anonymous is doing is all that helpful.

Conspiracy 101 (2)

westlake (615356) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566920)

If I get a few thousand of my friends to drive down a road at a particular time to create a traffic jam, is that a crime? I'm really asking...

Of course it is.

You have launched a conspiracy to deny others the right to travel without interference and delay. You and your friends are obstructing the public roads with potentially life-threatening consequences.

Police. Ambulance services. Fire and rescue...

It won't matter if you are a thousand miles away when someone gets hurt.

It's your game. Your ball.

Conspiracy law usually does not require proof of specific intent by the defendants to injure any specific person to establish an illegal agreement. Instead, usually the law only requires the conspirators have agreed to engage in a certain illegal act. This is sometimes described as a "general intent" to violate the law.
The conspirators can be guilty even if they do not know the identity of the other members of the conspiracy.
Conspiracy (crime) [wikipedia.org]

He's charged with supporting Wikileaks. (0)

elucido (870205) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566546)

And the punishment is lifetime COINTELPRO.

Counter intelligence agencies certainly want to know who he is and how to destroy him. They probably also want to know who and what he knows.

Re:What could possibly be the charge? (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566740)

It doesn't have to be a crime to cause the chilling effects the authorities are looking for.

He had his website "disappeared?" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566464)

He had his website "disappeared?" Really? Who is editing these summaries? A chimp with Down's Syndrome?

Re:He had his website "disappeared?" (2)

localman57 (1340533) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566998)

"disappeared" as a verb is a reference to the book 1984, where people the government doesn't like are abducted and then all traces of them are removed from past media.

Smoking gun (1)

Hogwash McFly (678207) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566478)

So if an arrest has been made on the basis of software user registration details, surely the appropriate response is to start flooding the Internet with questionable documents (kitty porn, bomb-making instructions etc.), all in the name of a specific celebrity target?

This is how you radicalize a generation (2)

Magada (741361) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566482)

That (as they say) is all.

Re:This is how you radicalize a generation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566764)

Funny comment, so obviously a joke but still with a hint that you actually mean it.

FAIL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566540)

A Tapanaris

Anonymous FAIL

Media Doesn't Get It (4, Informative)

cosm (1072588) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566564)

Slashdotters,

Here is a case-in-point (rather old) showing that mainstream US media just doesn't get it. Anonomous and Lulz [youtube.com]


U.S. Media,

Anonymous is not a secret hacker organization. It is the literal definition of the word. It is not a proper noun. It is just individuals acting without large-scale coordination, all pissed off for their own reasons, acting in semi-cohesion, and participating in groupthink. It is people either trolling for lulz [encycloped...matica.com] , or lulzing for lulzing.

People downloading music are like anonymous. There is not a collective group organizing the individual downloaders. They just do it. The people "at the other end of the stick" view it as us against "them", and to have a proper OMGSCANDAL, you need a perpetrator, so they made one. And if they didn't cognitively make one for the purposes of degrading freedom on the internet, then it's more lulz for us and more idiot points for you.

Sincererely

The Lulz.

Re:Media Doesn't Get It (2)

alvinrod (889928) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566758)

Individual participation in something like this hasn't existed on a big stage since the Athenians. Is it really shocking that the establishment doesn't seem to grok it? This is something that doesn't clearly fit into the D or R bags so no one really has a damned a clue what exactly to do with it. The party mentality permeates every aspect of their thinking. It's no wonder that they try to label it as just another group.

Re:Media Doesn't Get It (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566806)

The Lulz.

Namefag! :P

Re:Media Doesn't Get It (1)

sourcerror (1718066) | more than 3 years ago | (#34567004)

You know too much about Anonymous and used their calling word, "lulz". Just like Tapanaris. Now you can expect the partyvan.

I have a confession (1)

mgabrys (14614) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566678)

I just want to come clean and be honest in disclosing - GLEN BECK is a member of anonymous. There I've said it. Whew - load off my mind that is.

Re:I have a confession (1)

cosm (1072588) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566760)

I just want to come clean and be honest in disclosing - GLEN BECK is a member of anonymous. There I've said it. Whew - load off my mind that is.

Good thing you didn't say GLENN BECK, otherwise he might have tried suing you. Although I did hear he raped and mur....never mind.

Somewhere in the world, there is a Glen Beck, and he probably having a rough couple years.

Probably not as bad as Julian Asage, hopefully they don't accidentally pick her up by mistake identity and take her to a torture camp in Afghanistan.

Grammar, bitch. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566742)

Anonymous' aims

Anonymous's aims.

Has the NYT bailed already? (1)

rastoboy29 (807168) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566756)

Has anybody noticed that the New York Times seems to have stopped printing more cables articles since the 9th?

Have they caved already?

The true lesson (1)

harlows_monkeys (106428) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566830)

Just as hacking should be left to the real hackers, not the script kiddies, press releases should be written by real PR people, not word processing kiddies.

HAHAHAHAHA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34566872)

Good. Glad they arrested the fvcker.

Hope they arrest all the other retards who downloaded LOIC and used it to attack websites.

Unclear on the concept... (0)

PinchDuck (199974) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566876)

You aren't supposed to sign your name to an anonymous press release. Also, check your metadata.

script kiddies should stay away from fire (4, Insightful)

peter303 (12292) | more than 3 years ago | (#34566912)

Messing around with sovereign governments is not a game. If you dont understand how you leave footprints on the web you should not get involved. More mature hackers can avoid this.
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