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Stargate Universe Cancelled

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the stay-classy-syfy dept.

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Torino writes "SGU has finally been cancelled, with the remaining 10 episodes to air in Spring. Apparently, the cast wasn't told ahead of time, and some of them learned of the cancellation via Twitter. SGU has had its share of problems, even spawning a community of people who dislike the show. Can it be saved via fan support, given the steadily declining viewership numbers? Do you think the show had the potential to improve?"

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good (2, Insightful)

greymond (539980) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591582)

The Stargate series started off great, but it should have ended long before Atlantis even kicked off, let alone Universe.

Re:good (1)

uncanny (954868) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591604)

I think it had potential to get good, it just took too long (since it hadn't yet)

Re:good (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591724)

No it hasn't.
At least not as a Stargate series.

Stargate was always about one thing.
Explore other worlds by people who want to do it by their free will.
Show how humans explore the galaxy solving riddles of great age.

Stargate Universe is basically a survival horror series.
And a bad one as well. You can see all plot twists from a mile away and
all the characters act like they are all stupid to no end, just like a old horror
movie.

Good it died.

Re:good (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591924)

Didn't help that it was going smoothly, then *bam* off the air for months followed by reruns played out of sequence.

Re:good (2)

flowwolf (1824892) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591638)

What was wrong with Atlantis? While it was airing, there was nothing better on TV. I challenge you to provide reasons why it shouldn't have gone that far.

Re:good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591700)

Because before the show started the producers stated "We're going to have two seperate shows, without any characters crossing over."
and then like mid second season they found a way to travel back to earth again.....

Re:good (1)

icebike (68054) | more than 3 years ago | (#34592044)

They never said anything about no characters crossing over, you made that up. The whole premise was that dialing back to earth was not initially guaranteed. From earth to Atlantis was always part of the story line.

Simply because it was useful to tie the plot lines together does not make the series bad, in fact it proves you wrong.

Atlantis had more draw than the original, and Atlantis was used to prop up the original for the period that they both ran concurrently.

The original had run out of story.

Atlantis was fresh, and the Wraith were a godsend. Makeup budget overruns necessitated episodes back on earth and invention of other adversaries. But the story was solid.

SGU has nothing to sustain it other than a creepy old ship, and even they need the "Stones" to fill the story with fluff episodes.

Re:good (2)

metrix007 (200091) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591714)

Everything was wrong with Atlantis. It was like a cardboard copy of the original without any of the soul. Shepherd was like a copy of Jack, Rodney was a stand in for Sam, Ronin was a satndin for Teal'c etc. It was worse because while the original characters were likable and had history, the Atlantis team were cliched and forced. I mean, they called the muscle guy Ronin FFS. The only original episode they ever did was when the shuttle was stuck halfway between the gate. That was it.

And what the fuck was with the last episode where they just wormholed across time arbitrarily? Why the fuck has that not even come up in SGU as a way to get them home?

Re:good (1)

The MAZZTer (911996) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591834)

The wormhole thing was supposed to play a big role in the Atlantis movie, so that was supposed to be a hint I guess. But it was still a weird decision to stick it in like that.

Re:good (2)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591882)

I can tell you never watched beyond the first few episodes (but I'm just guessing - could be wrong). Yes SGA was pretty "blah" to start but it got better towards the end of the season, and seasons 2,3,4,5 were almost as good as SG1's first five seasons.

I especially liked the concept that the Bad guys were humans that had been bitten by a bug, and the two genes intermingled to create a new species. I also liked learning more about the Ancients, the further development of the replicators (which were an invention of an Ancient scientist), and the exploration of ascension.

SG1 fell into the trap of being a war show, but SGA was free to explore a new idea in each episode (like reading a Short short anthology). Reminded me of the greatness of Star Trek DS9 or the original trek.

Re:good (1)

Galactic Dominator (944134) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591904)

Rodney wasn't anything remotely close to resembling Sam's character. All your points are ridiculous. It's stargate TEAM, of course the team member talents will overlap.

Re:good (1)

metrix007 (200091) | more than 3 years ago | (#34592040)

They didn't just overlap, they were straight up copied. The young good humored wise cracking leader. The socially bumbling scientist. (The difference is that sam changed to be very sociable whiel Rodney never did). The peaceful translator and anthropologist archetype. The troubled warrior. SG1 worked because of the chemistry and that the stories were original. This was not the cast with SGA.

Re:good (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591952)

What are you talking about? Rodney was NOTHING like Sam.

Re:good (1)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591954)

>>>And what the fuck was with the last episode where they just wormholed across time arbitrarily?

Maybe I need to rewatch the episode, but that's not what I saw. If I recall correctly Atlantis turned-on its warp drive and flew across the gap between galaxies, just the same way the Earth ships had done dozens of times (and the Ancient ships did routinely). It was not arbitrary but a well-established fact that it could be done. Neither was it instantaneous, although it was very fast (just a few days).

Re:good (3, Insightful)

skids (119237) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591816)

"What was wrong with Atlantis?"

1) Dreadlock surfer-dude badass strained credibility -- and ability to suppress gagging
2) Villiains stolen wholesale from Earth Final Conflict's Season 5 -- incidentally the worst travesty of a final season till she ruined Andromeda, too.
3) Once you thought the lame humanoid replicators were finally gone, here they come again! (Bring back the legos!)

Re:good (3, Insightful)

arth1 (260657) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591992)

What was wrong with Atlantis? While it was airing, there was nothing better on TV. I challenge you to provide reasons why it shouldn't have gone that far.

One reason is that, like BG, it turned into a soap, where character interaction became more important than plot and vision.

Re:good (2, Interesting)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591702)

Well I agree with you in principle, but not your timing. I LOVED Atlantis, mainly because of quirky characters like Dr. Rodney McKay. The last two seasons of SG1 (the Or'i seasons) were lousy but I enjoyed watch SGA.

And SGU had me on the edge of my seat for the first 10 episodes or so, but then you could tell the story writers ran out of ideas. The ship "deep in space & out of contact" setting didn't work just as it didn't work for Star Trek Voyager.

So yes cancel Stargate SG1 and SGU, but not Atlantis.

Re:good (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591800)

Yeah they could have spun off the ori saga into a separate show, and made it good with the new characters. At that point the show was a lot different from its roots. The story arc episodes outnumbered the monster of the week episodes by a lot. It was just a different show, and should have been treated as such. That being said I still enjoyed it.

Re:good (1)

Galactic Dominator (944134) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591790)

I beg to differ. SG-1 had some of it's best work in it's last few years and the series finale was IMO the best one I've ever seen. Atlantis was also good, maybe not quite the level of SG-1. Then again, SG-1 was pretty brutal it's first two seasons. I never watched SGU because of what SciFi did to Atlantis which was a premature ending. It had decent ratings for SciFi so any series that isn't a blockbuster will on the chopping block there.

Re:good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591980)

On the contrary. SG-1 started well. It was even realistic and plausible, like Sci-Fi is suppose to be. Then it degenerated, one season after another into an unrealistic fairytale.

But this is what tends to happen to all types of shows where the heroes learn and adapt. The writers write more crazy scenarios for each season and eventually you end up with humans on Earth repelling alien conquistadors-equivalents using technology neither of which can understand, but somehow they control it..... What happened to Star Gate is equivalent to what happened to Star Trek after humans beat the Borg.... The story became fantasy, not sci-fi.

Re:good (5, Insightful)

God'sDuck (837829) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591806)

My new rules of sci-fi:
 
1) Never, ever, EVER allow time travel. Every single timeline can be undone. Nothing is believable.
2) Just because the special effects are awesome doesn't mean you don't need great writing.
3) Episodic shows are sitcoms (Star Trek I), and each episode needs to stand alone in a compelling and memorable way. Progessive shows (BSG reboot) need to have a sense of progress in each episode. Using episodic episodes in a progressive shows is OK for a break, but not because you've run out of ideas for progress. If you have run out of ideas for progress, KILL THE SHOW now, on your own terms, before it is cancelled. Take a few months off, pick a new story arc, mix up some characters and start again. If you don't, be sure to buy lunch for your writers so that they will proofread your resume at the end of the season.

Re:good (1)

rwven (663186) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591828)

Bah. I think Universe was the only good stargate series they ever made.

Re:good (3, Funny)

pooh666 (624584) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591968)

It is people like you that made BG a horror.

Re:good (4, Insightful)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591878)

My opinion: the first series' only asset was an oddly funny MacGyver faced with alternate realities, usually having to shoot his way out. The show really seemed like a one trick pony. Without MacGyver or the humor, what do you have? Sliders with alien gods that are incredibly advanced but somehow so incompetent that they always lose to 4 people with guns?

Re:good (2)

Tiger4 (840741) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591914)

I liked Universe, but they could have skipped Atlantis altogether.

There are only so many times you can go to the formula well and pull up a winner. And apparently the "fans" punish you if you decide to try a different formula. One where characterization and plot and growth and unpredictability actually mean something.

Re:good (1)

uradu (10768) | more than 3 years ago | (#34592006)

It did have an at times great soundtrack though. I discovered several bands through them, including the Eels (yeah, I know, more than a decade late)--specifically Agony, which played during the very steamy blue lighted opening sequence of an episode in spring. So it wasn't a total wash for me.

First Post (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591612)

What about closure for the fans? Will everyone die? That would be hilarious.

Re:First Post (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34592008)

Hopefully. except Rush, who ascends to the next scifi drama.

Yay. more money for mansquito II! (3, Insightful)

skids (119237) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591614)

Seriously, it was no BSG, but other than Caprica, what exactly does SyFy have going for it now?

A watered down remake of a barely-two-year-old BBC series (Being Human) which will lose all value without the fun accents?

Re:Yay. more money for mansquito II! (1)

makubesu (1910402) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591654)

I was thinking Tremors 5.

Re:Yay. more money for mansquito II! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591670)

FTA: Caprica also got canceled

Re:Yay. more money for mansquito II! (2)

skids (119237) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591936)

frak.

Re:Yay. more money for mansquito II! (1)

Surt (22457) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591704)

SyFy canceled Caprica a while ago. So they now officially have zero shows I'll be tivoing.

Re:Yay. more money for mansquito II! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591712)

Eureka but that's it.

Re:Yay. more money for mansquito II! (4, Insightful)

Nadaka (224565) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591738)

Pro wrestling and 7 flavors of fake reality ghost hunting shows.

Re:Yay. more money for mansquito II! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591812)

Seriously, it was no BSG, but other than Caprica, what exactly does SyFy have going for it now?

A watered down remake of a barely-two-year-old BBC series (Being Human) which will lose all value without the fun accents?

Mansquito II!!!!!! ROFL!!!!! Why is it that they have excellent shows and such cheezeeeeee movies??

Re:Yay. more money for mansquito II! (1)

SupremoMan (912191) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591852)

Eureka? Sanctuary? Those two are decent. The of course they have scare tactics, which I don't like, and ghost hunters, which I loathe.

Re:Yay. more money for mansquito II! (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591890)

Don't forget wrastlin' [syfy.com] ! Definitely science fiction at its best.

Re:Yay. more money for mansquito II! (1)

Winchestershire (1495475) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591920)

Admittedly, I've seen better acting and script writing for the wrestling programs than on some of the shows on "SyFy" lately.

Re:Yay. more money for mansquito II! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591922)

Eureka isn't being picked up again, from what I've heard - so it's effectively cancelled and Sanctuary is also facing a very uncertain future - so don't count on a future for that show either. SyFy is just executing all of its shows to become a lame version of Spike Television (if Spike wasn't lame enough)

Re:Yay. more money for mansquito II! (1)

AndrewNeo (979708) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591944)

Where's the Warehouse 13 love? (Also Eureka, but others have mentioned it above me)

Re:Yay. more money for mansquito II! (1)

StuartHankins (1020819) | more than 3 years ago | (#34592014)

The beginning of the end was when they renamed Sci-Fi to Syfy...

Re:Yay. more money for mansquito II! (1)

Tiger4 (840741) | more than 3 years ago | (#34592058)

What does it have going? What a silly question! They have WWE, they have Sharktopus (or is that Dinocroc?), they have Ghost Hunters AND Ghost Hunters International!

I mean, what else could a SciFi (or SyFy) fan want ??

And (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591616)

nothing of value was lost.

No chance to wrap up? (1)

crow (16139) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591628)

It would be nice if they at least had a chance to wrap it up, but I suppose the last episode will be a cliffhanger with no resolution.

Re:No chance to wrap up? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591680)

They ran our of food and water, then died. The end.

bad writing, bad acting. (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591632)

shitty characters who make stupid decisions (e.g. not dumping nerve gas into the ducts when your ship is being overrun with superior forces ? wtf? this guy is a general ?, leaving your only scientist with any knowledge of ship systems stranded on a planet ? etc), crappy acting and dumb dialogue, shitty plot.
kill that show and bury it.

Re:bad writing, bad acting. (2)

Manos_Of_Fate (1092793) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591690)

wtf? this guy is a general ?,

He's a colonel. And the show's basic premise was "these are the wrong people in the wrong place".

Re:bad writing, bad acting. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591870)

they dont have to be idiots even if they are the wrong people in the wrong place.
the difference is that mckay on atlantis was the wrong guy in the wrong place (getting scared of shooting a pistol, going on away missions) but it worked fine. thats because viewers and the person on the screen arent idiots and dont have to be portrayed as such.
sgu's entire cast were idiots and the bad acting just topped it off.

Re:bad writing, bad acting. (4, Insightful)

GooberToo (74388) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591886)

That's a great premise to defend some of the horrible writing, but it quickly breaks down once you apply even a modest amount of critical review.

He's such a wrong leader that he's been selected to travel to one of the most important events within a super secret, most important project known to man kind. Really? In such a situation, even the worst would still be far better than average - and most here border of flat out ineptitude.

In that situation you might have people make decisions which seemed bad after the fact, but these are bad decisions both before and after for absolutely no reason other than to create a poor story in hopes of hiding a poor writing style.

I actually believe most of the acting is okay. The primary problems I've seen is when the actors have had problems choking out some of the horrible lines and idiotic sub plots.

Universe could have worked if they had decided that details such as plot and story arch mattered. But rather than do that, they decided that they'd be dumb and trendy and follow JJ Abram's poor plot style; which fails to deliver almost every time. Ultimately, the "just make shit up every episode and the viewers will believe you're really fucking deep and mysterious", is what ultimately doomed Universe.

Re:bad writing, bad acting. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591798)

I agree. It was Twilight in Space. Disgusting when sci-fi is turned into soap opera dogshit.

It was just okay (4, Interesting)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591636)

Heavily influenced by the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica, SGU felt much more "adult" and real than any previous SG series (some of which were just downright hokey). And the characters and actors (especially the always-reliable Robert Carlyle) were interesting and pretty well fleshed-out. But the stories were a little weak and it was only moderately interesting viewing. Like Caprica, it kind of felt like Battlestar-lite. And at least Caprica had a powerful pilot. SGU never really had a stand-out episode. It was just sort of there, sort of mediocre. With a great cast, a decent premise, and okay writers--it certainly had the *potential* to be a lot better. But I suspect that if it had stayed on, the Scfy inclination wouldn't have been to smarten it up--but quite the opposite, to go for more action and tits and less character development and moral dilemma.

Re:It was just okay (4, Insightful)

PhxBlue (562201) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591860)

Heavily influenced by the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica, SGU felt much more "adult" and real than any previous SG series (some of which were just downright hokey).

Only if, by "adult," you mean "emo."

Re:It was just okay (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591986)

In my opinion, they learned the wrong lessons from BSG --- the director got it in to his head that "shaky-cam" + "poor lighting" are the only things needed to create dramatic tension. The first season was just plain annoying to watch. I gave it up after a few eps.

I gave it another chance in season 2. It is now more watchable, but too little, too late. Quite frankly none of the characters are likable.

The A-Team (2)

ProfBooty (172603) | more than 3 years ago | (#34592050)

While one must admit that SG1 did have quite a bit of the A-Team feel about it, I am unsure why SGU coopted the Stargate Name. audience expectations might have been a bit better without the history attached to Stargate fans.

I'm not sure why so many people think watching "whiney" adults who are acting like teenagers is adult content. I guess its more adult than wish fufillment fantasy, but not that much. The show might have had a better chance if they dumped the first 6-7 episodes and moved those events forward to give the show purpose.

I didn't even know it was in trouble (1)

CosmeticLobotamy (155360) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591642)

Weird. Easily my favorite of the Stargate series' and the only show on SciFi I ever watched.

And yay; since no one knew it was getting canned it will end with everything unresolved. Probably on a cliffhanger. That would be swell.

NBC BETTER NOT MESS UP Comcast sportsnet (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591644)

NBC BETTER NOT MESS UP Comcast Sportsnet what carp like this after comcast buys NBC.

Is there any hope that comcast can save scifi channel? or will the nbc buy out end up with G4 / CSN / VS being comeing more like syfy that more WWE and other crap.

it was getting better (4, Interesting)

ShaggusMacHaggis (178339) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591650)

I do think it was trying too hard to be Stargate: Galatica , however it was getting better as this season went on. I think it's a shame that SyFy seems to be cancelling all of the 'serious' shows.....they are left with only the super-cheesy shows (like Eureka, Warehouse 13, Haven...all got renewed..I don't understand how anyone can watch Haven...it's awful) - these cheesy series, along with their b-movies seem to be the only shows that get ratings. It's a shame.

Re:it was getting better (4, Insightful)

Surt (22457) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591762)

I'm pretty sure it's all about budget. From what I hear the budget on a Eureka/Haven is 10% of the cost of a SGU. That's a drastically lower threshold for advertising profitability. The cost / episode of WWE is even lower.

Re:it was getting better (2)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#34592032)

Every time I've tried (God knows I did try) to watch Eureka, all I could do was feel sorry for the cast. Poor Joe Morton went from great roles in movies like Lonestar and Terminator 2 to that turd--what a sad way to end a career. The premise of the show actually wasn't that bad. But the dialogue, writing, and some of the acting were so horridly, horridly godawful that most of its laughs were unintentional. I think the final straw was when they brought in poor James Callis. Yet another actor capable of so much more who has been wasted on that altar of shit.

Re:it was getting better (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34592066)

Yeah, haven is dirt cheep.

SGU has a TON of CG and a massive cast

Cancelled? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591662)

I didn't even know it existed... :/

Gutted (1)

nickrw (1958032) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591668)

I thoroughly enjoyed SGU. It took a while to get off the ground during season 1, but it was really starting to get good during season 2. Never realised so many people felt so strongly against it.

About time! (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591674)

I watched every episode of SG1 and Atlantis, and I couldn't stand SGU. It had way too much drama, infighting and incompetence to be an enjoyable series.

I think they were trying to make something like Battlestar Galactica, but forgot to add a plot.

Cast learned of the cancellation via Twitter... (1)

clone52431 (1805862) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591678)

But don’t worry... posting twitter updates doesn’t cost the producers a thing. They have an unlimited data plan.

(Am I the only one who’s thinking of those commercials?)

Shouldn't have been canceled (1)

trickeyOne (1922446) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591696)

I think it shouldn't have been canceled yet. Did it have a rough start? Yes, but so did the original Stargate and Atlantis, so do most new shows. The show itself was just starting to have a true life of its own and starting to take on its own storyline. It shouldn't have taken almost 2 seasons to do so, but... I mean they JUST got control of the ship, lol!

Pitty (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591726)

Oh, pitty, SGU was actually the best show in the SG, uhm, Universe, and after a very bleak sequence of episodes, it started to be very interesting looking-forward-to-next-week-episode kind of thing. It does seem to have lost a little bit of its original path, though, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

why can't stuff like wcg ultimate gamer be on g4? (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591732)

why can't stuff like wcg ultimate gamer be on g4?

why does it and WWE have to be on scifi?

I can answer that question for you: (4, Informative)

Weaselmancer (533834) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591746)

Can it be saved via fan support, given the steadily declining viewership numbers?

Firefly.

If the rabid Firefly fans couldn't resurrect that show, then you guys don't have a prayer.

That being said, I welcome you all as brothers and sisters and feel your pain. You can't take the sky from me.

Re:I can answer that question for you: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591928)

Can it be saved via fan support, given the steadily declining viewership numbers?

Firefly.

If the rabid Firefly fans couldn't resurrect that show, then you guys don't have a prayer.

That being said, I welcome you all as brothers and sisters and feel your pain. You can't take the sky from me.

Firefly had nowhere to go. How far can you take a Space Western? Don't get me wrong, the movie was great and the series I enjoyed but I could see getting tired of it in season 2 - like I did with BSG.

Re:I can answer that question for you: (1)

metrix007 (200091) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591938)

The counterpoint to that argument would be to point out the success fans had in resurrecting Family Guy and Futurama.

Re:I can answer that question for you: (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34592036)

So, are you making that counterpoint or are you just pointing out that it would be a good one for someone to make?

Effing SyFy (1)

intellitech (1912116) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591748)

First, SG-1. Then, Atlantis. How about somebody points out that their poor ratings may have been due to resent from the sci-fi community FOR CANCELING SHOWS THEY OBVIOUSLY SHOULDN'T HAVE CANCELED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Re:Effing SyFy (1)

Dalzhim (1588707) | more than 3 years ago | (#34592004)

Totally agree. At first I didn't like Stargate SG-1's cancellation. The problem wasn't with the cast but with the amount of "filler episodes". Then Dr McKay made StarGate Atlantis actually be a nice series and it got cancelled too... I mean c'mon. I like stargate's universe. Why cancel all of them?

I guess I'm the only one who's bummed. (4, Interesting)

type40 (310531) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591752)

SU premiered right when I needed it. I had just moved to a new city half way across the county to be a Police Officer in a pretty rough area. I kind of related to the whole being away from family/ friends and not knowing if you were going to see them again.

Watching SU Saturday mornings on Hulu was one of the little things that kept me sane.

no more TV for me... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591766)

That was literally the last show on TV I watched. Oh well...

SGU on Netflix (1)

mazumi (1960366) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591768)

I was catching up on SGU via Netflix with the intention of watching it on TV and in the last episode of season 1.1, the audio track is about a second and a half behind the video. All of season 1.2 is the same way. After waiting for weeks to see if Netflix would fix it, I gave up and started in on BSG instead. Now I *really* hope they get it fixed.

Latest episodes getting better (3, Informative)

lp_bugman (623152) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591770)

The first season as plain wrong and awful. Watched 2x9 and 2x10 last night they are getting much better. Now that the crew has control over Destiny and the top dogs made peace.

Saw it coming when they renamed the channel SyFy (5, Insightful)

Winchestershire (1495475) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591776)

More proof that SyFy is well on its way to become just another SpikeTV/MTV/G4 clone. Remember when the Sci-Fi Channel showed showed Science Fiction B-Movies and TV shows (I sure miss Mystery Science Theater 3000)?

Re:Saw it coming when they renamed the channel SyF (1)

Ephemeriis (315124) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591970)

More proof that SyFy is well on its way to become just another SpikeTV/MTV/G4 clone. Remember when the Sci-Fi Channel showed showed Science Fiction B-Movies and TV shows (I sure miss Mystery Science Theater 3000)?

That is why I originally started watching the SciFi channel. They had all the good old sci-fi stuff I loved. Random monster movies, classics, great old TV shows... I actually went out of my way to get a package that included the SciFi channel.

Then they started phasing that stuff out... Adding more recent, mainstream stuff... But that was OK because it was generally decent stuff...

And then they started turning out one SciFi original movie after another. And some of them were fun... But most of them just sucked...

And then they started carrying wrestling, and changed the name to SyFy... And I really just stopped caring.

Why the Hell wasn't it on Friday Night's? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591778)

The Scifi Channel is severely dysfunctional. I never understood why they replaced they're strong Friday lineup with wrestling. Do they really get that many more numbers? During the week I'm just to busy to watch anything between work, study, and family. Friday night is the only time I can catch any tube time. Personally I think the Scifi Channel has gone down hill with lots of crappy made for TV films over the last few years. It went from some really decent one's like the first Dune Series to Shark verses Giant Mutated Wombats. (Maybe it was giant Octopus but I personally find Giant Mutated Wombats more scary.)

Maybe the channel is being populated by squirrels bent on cornering the nut supply because they're programming is certainly nuts. I barely catch it much. Mainly I've focused on FX, and AMC. The Walking DEAD rocked. If the SCI Fi rrrr SYFY channel had aired that they'd be racking up the advertising revenue.

nbc was devaluing it's networks to make it easier (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 3 years ago | (#34592060)

nbc was devaluing it's networks to make it easier for comcast to buy them.

I hope that deal fails!

Did it have the potential to improve? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591780)

Seriously, did it have the potential to improve? Well, duh! Of *course* it had the potential to improve. It was practically nothing *but* the potential to improve. Now, a more interesting question would be "Did it have the potential to get any worse?" The answer to that is almost certainly also yes. It turns out that the writers best-worst efforts still leave *some* potential for it to get any worse.

Long may Battlestargate: Univoyager be remembered.

This is the 21st century for Frak's sake (5, Insightful)

Mindragon (627249) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591784)

How many more? How many more uncompleted series, idiotic product placements and other Brainwashing Network TV Executive decisions are we going to face before we finally get away from the middle man? I’m probably going to disconnect my DirecTV box now because there really isn’t anything left to watch on network TV. The networks keep eliminating anything resembling creative content and continue to deprive America of some of the finest writings out there. How much longer do we have to wait before enough of us get together to form an online media company that works? I’ve got a nice monitor / computer setup. For what it costs of DirecTV for one year, I could afford a very nice Computer / Monitor setup. And if I’m patient enough to time-shift my TV, I could do the same for online content. The model would be extraordinarily affordable if folks were to band together. One million regular viewers of a TV series on network TV is laughable. One million regular viewers of online content is a smash hit. Add in some micro currency ($0.99 cents a month / viewer) and for twelve million a year, anyone certainly could put together a creative and production team that works. I don’t know why Network TV folks don’t take content and put it in web only mode if it works better. For example, SGU and Caprica maybe is a better model for the online universe. That is where the audience is anyway. So put ads up on TV saying “Exclusively online”. If viewer-ship rises enough on the web then maybe transition it back to TV. Why the hell does everything need to be TV centric anymore? This is the 21st century for frak’s sake.

Not surprised (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591788)

While I really liked the first season, this doesn't surprise me. The world just wasn't ready for a non-campy Stargate. People want to like the characters, believe in them, not stress out understanding their emotional complexities. Plus, Stargate really needs a nice decade hiatus, hopefully making a comeback when reinventing the franchise makes sense.

Groan, SCIFI channel is clueless (2)

haplo21112 (184264) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591804)

I refuse to use that other stupid name.

The Series had a highs and lows, I think the thing that killed it was to much character development, not enough conflict and exploration. Its a show about going to some unknown place, but they have never gotten anywhere. And for Christ sake, turn the DAMN lights on! The Ancients could build Atlantis and the Destiny, but they couldn't equip the ship with a decent f**ing light bulb.

This is a good excuse... (0)

Dripdry (1062282) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591836)

Finally! A good excuse for some of my friends to not have to stay indoors all the time talking about how they're trying to catch up on Stargate.

Their lives have ground to a halt, their relationships have crumbled....

Yeah, it's a bad argument, but at least now it's one LESS excuse for them to hide from the world all the time.

BSG Lite, sesame lite (1)

Servaas (1050156) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591862)

Biggest problem for me with the show was they never really knew what they wanted to be, sometimes felt like a slapstick then they went all hardcore drama. One week the diabolical evil mastermind pulled some shit and they went "Oh that rascal" next week they would leave him to die...

Only "Stargate" in title (5, Interesting)

HikingStick (878216) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591874)

It was such a departure from the previous two shows that it really bore little resemblance to the other two. I realize the trappings were there--space travel, alien races, military teams--but from the start the show seemed like it wanted to be more "soap opera" than sci-fi. Some have said it was trying to copy BSG. I just think it, like SyFy, was just trying to distance itself from its original sci-fi base (and, yes, that meant that the originals appealed more to sci-fi geeks than to a general audience) and reach to an audience that it assumed would be there.

Well, I guess they couldn't get a lock on that final chevron, because this Stargate is going nowhere.

Not surprised, but not really disappointed (1)

enjar (249223) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591880)

I was happy to hear that the new Stargate series was going to move away from the "SG" model of a small squad versus the universe. SG-1 was enjoyable, but Atlantis was definitely watered down and tired. SGU went off in a very different direction, and definitely showed that SyFy was trying to do the BSG thing again. The thing is, I had trouble getting into the characters and the show was lacking some of the fun camaraderie that existed in the earlier gate series. Sure, it's serious business out there on the Destiny and all, but I like a little levity in my Stargate.

I could see that they were going somewhere, but as my time becomes more constrained due to family/work/life, the bar I set for what I do in my scarce free time gets higher. Sadly, there wansn't enough compelling in SGU to keep me coming back for more.

I'm glad it's cancelled (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34591908)

I've been a diehard Stargate fan since the pilot of SG-1 aired, and despite it's problems I enjoyed Atlantis. That being said, SGU made me sad - I didn't even bother watching any of the second season. The characters are weak, the situation is weak, the plot is weak, it's just a weak, disappointing show all around. I'm glad it got cancelled - maybe they'll go make that Atlantis movie they were talking about earlier. At least that has a chance to not fail miserably.

I admit SGU wasn't that good (1)

Lazypete (863757) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591946)

But there are far worse on TV.. I mean ghost hunter... who the hell watch this show... Please.. just stop the spinoffs.. be original.

Um. (2)

Jethro (14165) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591948)

Of all the shows AciFi has cancelled (*cough*Farscape*couch*), I really don't think this is the one we actually need to save. They should never have started it in the first place, it was a pointless Milking The Franchise show. I hear it eventually got "better" but I kinda gave up on it midway through. I just couldn't bring myself to care about any of the characters.

As someone who watched SGU regularly... (4, Insightful)

SheeEttin (899897) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591966)

As someone who watched SGU regularly, I can say it wasn't too bad (it was getting better), but it didn't have a theme of its own. Sure, you're on a ship, but you're not trying to get home... You're basically just along for the ride. It's not that interesting. At least be human and try to build on what you've got...

I miss the planet exploration of the old Stargates. :(

Now they can... (2)

Hangin10 (704729) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591984)

afford to make more than 12 Warehouse episodes a season.

I was a huge fan of SG-1, and Atlantis was better than nothing, but SGU was about to lose my interest. The reveal of the bridge ALMOST took me back in, but it was not enough to overcome the poor writing. Death of Ginn. QED.

Oh, and not to mention that the premise of them being "the wrong people" doesn't jive with how they got to be the scientists and the defense of one of the most secret bases.

I really liked the show... (1, Funny)

paulsnx2 (453081) | more than 3 years ago | (#34591996)

. . L i k e d t h e s h o w...

. . . . l . i . k . e . d . . . t . h . e . . . s . h . o . w .....

. . . . . . . l . . i . . k . . e . . d . . . . . t . . h . . e . . . . . s . . h . . o . . w .....

eh? What's with the echo?

WOW! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34592022)

Not only my favorite Stargate, but the only series recorded on my DVR and the only thing I watch on SyFy. Sad...

Good! (3, Interesting)

ericdano (113424) | more than 3 years ago | (#34592024)

Ok, first, the story lines SUCKED. And they had access back to Earth. That was lame. And Eli is a terrible character acted by a terrible actor.......I so wished for him to just die......

The whole Civilian vs. Military thing in the beginning was stupid. And the whole "I lost the baby but the aliens took it"......really? Who writes this BS? It's like it was written by a 16 year old nerdy girl who's at an away camp missing her family and her female lover. Sorta like if the Twilight series author wrote SciFi (or SyFy).

So much potential and it was squandered.

Ridiculous... I hate network execs (3, Insightful)

anlashok (120734) | more than 3 years ago | (#34592038)

The channel had great ratings for BSG, and had a lot of potential wasted by execs that didn't understand or care about a scifi audience that built the channel up. Could have done a better budgeted B5 show, or one of the many Fox shows killed too early like Firefly. Why the heck is wrestling and ghost stories on a scifi channel?
I actually like SGU more than many of the episodes of the SGA episodes. Previous commenter was right in calling it more adult. It could be great, but NBC doesn't know what it has. Its a good money maker for a niche that doesn't have competition in the subject matter.
I'd invest in a new SciFi type channel if I could. Maybe Speilberg, Lucas, or Cameron would see the possibilities.

first caprica, now SGU... Syfy going downhill (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34592062)

I'm totally p##### at how they cancelled caprica, one day is was there and the next day gone, mid season, no cleanup, just done. Now they've gone and killed SGU just as the series was really starting to move (it had a pretty slow start IMO because they spent a lot of time building characters). Why even bother starting to watch any new series on there, they're just going to cancel it and leave you hanging. Wasn't SciFi always about fringe shows???!!! They aren't CBS, it's not survivor, the base of the channel is science fiction enthusiests and there just isn't a lot of them. Cancelling shows because they don't have stellar ratings comparible to the crap on the other channels is a great way to kill your base. Next to go, Eureka and Warehouse 13, then i'll just stop watching SyFy completely.

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