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Dell Reveals Specs For the Looking Glass Tablet

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the not-on-purpose dept.

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adeelarshad82 writes "Dell hasn't officially unveiled its Looking Glass tablet, but it's on record at the FCC. The spec sheets reveal a device with a 7-inch screen, 3G and Wi-Fi connectivity, and an SD card slot. The Looking Glass will likely be announced at next week's Consumer Electronics Show (CES), which is sure to have no shortage of new tablets. Dell filed the documents for device approval by the FCC on December 17. The Looking Glass is expected to be one of the first devices to pack an Nvidia Tegra 2 processor, a powerful chip for mobile devices that can support both typical functions (like e-mail and Web browsing) as well as advanced graphics — all while preserving battery life."

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ergh (3, Interesting)

nomadic (141991) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690440)

Why are all these ipad competitors doing 7 inch screens?

Re:ergh (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34690474)

The 10" screen makes it difficult for them to hit a competitive price point with the iPad.

Re:ergh (0)

del_diablo (1747634) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690478)

Stupidity. That is why.

Re:ergh (2, Insightful)

Joehonkie (665142) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690626)

Yes, because people who want a different product from the one you want are obviously not geniuses like you. 10" is not what I want in a tablet at all.

Re:ergh (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34690680)

Yes, it is true. You are a fucking idiot.

Do you even own one? (0)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690684)

Good luck with that 7" screen. I find the iPad screen just barley large enough for a tablet. With a 7" screen you may as well just have something that can go in a pocket.

Re:Do you even own one? (3, Informative)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690742)

Or in a bag. A 10" tablet is too big for my tankbag for my motorcycle for instance, but a 7" fits nicely.

Re:Do you even own one? (2)

mcdermd (901583) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690956)

I don't know what kind of a tank bag you use but if it can't fit an iPad sized device, it's the smallest tank bag I've ever seen in my life.

Re:Do you even own one? (1, Funny)

gilesjuk (604902) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691168)

My 42 inch TV won't fit in a small bag, but I wouldn't sacrifice its size just so it is easier to move around.

Re:Do you even own one? (1)

badboy_tw2002 (524611) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691342)

Yeah, it would be completely crazy to take portability and size into account for something like a tablet, which, just like your 42" TV is designed to be bolted into the wall and used in one place and one place only. In fact, we should just jump straight to 42" tablets and be done with it.

Re:Do you even own one? (1)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691614)

Which is why so many people choose not to skimp on size and carry their full-size desktop tower and 22" widescreen monitor everywhere they go. Good point.

Re:Do you even own one? (1)

Joehonkie (665142) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690852)

I don't own any, because there's none that I like, but the 7" ones I have messed haven't disappointed me in screen size. Hell, I'm just going to be reading web pages and replying to e-mail on it. If I was going to do anything more and wanted a 10" I already have a netbook.

Re:Do you even own one? (3, Interesting)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690966)

My company issues ipads, and after using one for two weeks I returned mine. It just wasn't a significant win in portability over my notebook, which does more and has SD and USB slots. I don't need to carry around yet another device just 'cause it's cool.

If the iPad works for you, great, but appreciate that others have different needs. The 7" form factor will fit in a coat pocket, which means I'm more likely to have the device on me. That it's not made by Apple makes it more likely that it may have the I/O ports I need. A double win.

Re:Do you even own one? (1)

seamonkey420 (1570909) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691700)

you ever used a 7" vs the 10"? i think its perfect imo after having an iPad i love my Galaxy Tab's size.

a tool/gadget that i can take with me everywhere is already a superior product.. the fact that it can hold its own performance-wise really is the icing on the cake.

as for usage, for the major computing i have my macbook air 11" so the 10" iPad in a way is irrelevant in my setup. but again, portability of the 7" screens is a huge seller to me and probably others. just my usual .02

Re:Do you even own one? (2)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#34692092)

I've tried them out in stores, but I don't see how a 7" tablet is a tool you can take with you everywhere the way you can a Touch or iPhone or other phone. To me a 7" tablet is just large enough I'd be able to have it in all the same places I can bring an iPad, and then why not have a larger screen?

Re:ergh (2)

del_diablo (1747634) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691088)

It is not about it being 7 inches, it is about it ALL OF THEM being 7 inches.
If there was some variation(the galaxytab is 4 inches? it is variation), it would be interisting, but everything in 7 inches.
But, it is not the screensize the tablets will fail on.
My guess is that they will all fail on some of these:
*Bad and/or slow interface
*Fragmentation causing GUI programming to be bad
*The cheap variants will ruin the marked
Tablets has been around since pre-century, and it did never catch on until the iPad. Now that everything ships with superslow Android using a slow java interprenter, the package problem has been solved, but they will most likely still stumble and CRASH on the user interface.
Then lets ask a question instead: Which tablets will we consider to be "good" after the year 2011 is over? Galaxy tab and succesor looks good, iPad created the segment, and I assume there will at the top be 1 additional good tablet to compete in the marked.

Re:ergh (1)

Applekid (993327) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691224)

It is not about it being 7 inches, it is about it ALL OF THEM being 7 inches.

There are only so many display sizes that can deliver the required display resolution, pixel-change responsiveness, and touch sensitivity at sufficient quantity at a decent price. There are also pretty big implications when you single-source parts, especially live-or-die parts like the display. People are willing to go on waiting lists for the latest Apple product, not necessarily Dell.

When you consider the deal-breakers you mentioned, shoppers are going to be looking at those details and no one is going to ignore those pain points and buy based solely on screen size.

Not all 7 inches (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691946)

It is not about it being 7 inches, it is about it ALL OF THEM being 7 inches.

If by "THEM" you mean "tablets that aren't the iPad", they aren't all 7 inches. Of those on the market or announced, the range is something like 4-12 inches. 7 in. seems to be the most common, but it is far from the only size.

There's actually quite a few 11.6" and 12.1", 1366x768 tablets.

Re:ergh (1)

PatPending (953482) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690506)

Dunno for certain. But the Amazon Kindle 3 has a 6.1" diagonal screen--and the Kindle 3 will fit in the rear pocket of (some) pants (including the pair I have on now--I just tried it to confirm it). So maybe it has to do with something like this.

Re:ergh (1)

PatPending (953482) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691184)

(Continuing my OP)

Maybe the designers wanted it to also fit in a purse, jacket pocket, motorcycle tank bag, automotive glove box, etc.

Also with increasing screen size comes added cost, weight, thickness, and greater area susceptible to damage (e.g., cracking due to a drop, etc.)

iPad vs. everyone else (5, Informative)

Toe, The (545098) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690592)

Just FYI, a recent business IT survey [investorplace.com] shows interest in iPads stomping all other tablets: about four fifths of companies planning to buy tablets next quarter plan on buying iPads. And it shows satisfaction with iPads vastly outstripping other companies' offerings. (It's also extremely interesting to note that 38% of IT respondants using iPads say they are using them for laptop replacement.)

In other relevant iPad news, holiday sales numbers seem to show iPads squashing competitors [macobserver.com] in the consumer channel.

Re:iPad vs. everyone else (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691018)

What competitors? The only viable competition this moment is the Samsung Galaxy, which has been out, what, weeks?

Of course businesses that are buying tablets right now are buying iPads, right now. It's the only viable product, right now.

Let's talk later when we're actually comparing apples to apples (so to speak).

Re:iPad vs. everyone else (4, Insightful)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691724)

That's funny because before the iPad came out all Slashdotters could do was point out how the iPad was nothing new and how tablets had been around for ages, etc etc. And now that the iPad has pretty much owned the entire market the excuse is that "there are no viable competitors". Would it kill you people to admit you were wrong about the iPad and it's likely success? This is like the failed Slashdot predictions about the potential success of the iPod and iPhone all over again.

Re:iPad vs. everyone else (2)

nomadic (141991) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691928)

I don't remember seeing all slashdotters saying the ipad would fail COMMERCIALLY, just that it was nothing really special.

Re:iPad vs. everyone else (2)

Toe, The (545098) | more than 3 years ago | (#34692006)

Well, it's right there in TFA: Dell Streak, HP Slate, RIM Playbook, and others. At least those first two can be purchased now. It's not Apple's fault that the others aren't ready yet. (Well, it is Apple's fault that they created the market and thus got to it first: before iPad, everyone thought tablets were a stupid micro-niche.)

But more to the point, the survey isn't about what businesses are buying right now (except for the satisfaction index), the referenced question is precisely: "Who is the manufacturer of the Tablets your company is planning on buying?" and references next quarter.

Here is the relevant paragraph:
"Despite the flood of new Tablets hitting the market, the Apple iPad remains the overwhelming choice of business buyers going forward - with nearly four-in-five (78%) corporate respondents saying their company plans to purchase Apple iPads."

Re:ergh (3, Informative)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690594)

Why are all these ipad competitors doing 7 inch screens?

You can't easily hold an iPod with one hand for any length of time. Have you seen the Galaxy Tab TV commercial? They make a point of showing the tablet being held one-handed.

For some of us, the iPad is too big. I'm just waiting for a true tablet version of Android. I'd get a 7" iPad, but Jobs has already said that isn't happening.

Re:ergh (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690718)

You can't easily hold an iPod with one hand for any length of time.

That's why God made the Kindle.

For all other uses you don't need to hold it one hand for any length of time.

Re:ergh (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691216)

You can't easily hold an iPod with one hand for any length of time.

That's why God made the Kindle.

For all other uses you don't need to hold it one hand for any length of time.

I love my Kindle; but speaking as someone who's used iSSH on an iPod Touch and have also used it on an iPad I must disagree with you. For commuting, the iPad's keyboard and screen size really don't work well unless you're using it relatively passively. A smaller screen still allows thumb typing while holding the tablet up.

Re:ergh (1)

peragrin (659227) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691404)

exceot I cant put my own software, or files onto a kindle without going through amazon's services. If amazon finds I have something they deem illegal they will remotely delete it for me.

If BN would open the nook color into a full tablet that is what i am looking for. Wifi only(I don't need yet another data plan, Kindle's sprint service in my area sucks) 7" android tablet, with some configuration.

Re:ergh (1)

HRbnjR (12398) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690686)

10" minimum - to comfortably read a page of text in landscape without zooming. I bought an iPad to tide me over until I can get a decent Android tablet (for reading websites from the sofa), and from my experience I wouldn't go smaller or lower resolution than that - I already have to squint on a lot of sites. If they can make a 4" screen for the Samsung Galaxy at 800x480, I don't think 1920x1080 on a 10" or 11" tablet is that unreasonable (I'm willing to pay accordingly).

Re:ergh (4, Interesting)

swb (14022) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691008)

I think you're right. IMHO, the iPad display needs to be higher resolution. And if they ever made a 12" or even better, a 14" version, I'd be all over it -- magazines at actual magazine size, and with "retina" resolution, pretty darn comparable to magazine look. And much improved newspaper layout as well and better web site browsing (still a tad too much zoom & pan).

About the only other thing I'd also do would be more CPU -- I find some web sites with heavy javascript make typing and interaction laggy. OK, one more thing -- how about 128 or 256MB flash?

Overall, though, I really like my iPad.

No Retina-display iPad in the near future(Re:ergh) (2)

WillAdams (45638) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691684)

Crunch the numbers on it --- 326 ppi even on the iPad's 10.4" display is _way_ more display bandwidth than any graphics chipset currently available, let alone feasible for portable use.

William

Re:No Retina-display iPad in the near future(Re:er (2)

del_diablo (1747634) | more than 3 years ago | (#34692000)

If I can get 1920x1080 on a shitty Intel integrated, why can't they just sit down and make something that allows it on a portable device?
The question is mindboggeling!

Re:ergh (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691046)

> 10" minimum - to comfortably read a page of text in landscape without zooming.

Demonstrably untrue. I do it all the time with my 55 year old eyes on my 4" Droid X.

A 7" tablet, that actually fits in a coat pocket, would be just about perfect. 10" (9.7 actually) is too big. You might as well carry a notebook.

Which just goes to prove, there's more then one market out there for tablets.

Re:ergh (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691124)

Are you saying you can actually read an 8.5" by 11" PDF originally intended for printing on a 4" screen without panning and zooming? That's what I use mine for, I have to read screenplays and the Kindle just never cut it. Works great for manuals too; I just can't see how you could get a page of that legible on a small screen.

Re:ergh (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691688)

Have not specifically tried it with a PDF, but have used it to read Word docs with "docs to go", and I'm using it to read Slashdot unzoomed right now.

I'm not saying it's ideal, but it is possible. I prefer not to use zoom because I don't like panning back and forth while I'm reading.

The 7" Galaxy tab is 1024X600, and reading a document in landscape (using vertical scrolling) is fine. Dunno enough yet about the Dell tablet to know how it'll perform, but 7" is demonstrably a workable form factor.

Re:ergh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34691226)

I think your exact same argument applies just as well to 7" as it does 10" - nobody really wants to carry 7" with them everywhere either. A 4" device that fits in your pants pocket is the sweet spot for a portable device. Once you are past that, you might as well get a 10" or 12" or a notebook.

Re:ergh (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691838)

There is some truth to that. Since I got the Droid X I carry my laptop much less frequently, and really had no use for the company issued iPad.

I can even log onto my workstation from the phone through Logmein Ignition (home) or Citrix for Android (work), although it's a little painful on the 4" 854X480 display. The Galaxy tab, for instance, has a resolution of 1024X600 on a 7" screen, *and* it still fits in a coat pocket, which the iPad does not do. Ten by Six on seven inches would be pretty much the perfect compromise of usability and portability.

Moreover, an Android tablet would potentially have something that my Droid X currently does not have, and the iPad will never have -- USB host capability. If I could just read images from Compact Flash into the device, I really could leave my laptop home, as Photoshop Express for Android gives me enough functionality to edit and upload photos from the field.

If you have the right pants (1)

BenEnglishAtHome (449670) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691320)

A 7" tablet, that actually fits in a coat pocket, would be just about perfect. 10" (9.7 actually) is too big. You might as well carry a notebook.

I live in a warm climate and never wear a coat. My iPad fits in my back pants pocket just fine. I carry it there all the time. I just have to remember not to sit on it.

To me, the iPad is the right size because it's big enough to read and slim enough to be portable. A notebook or netbook wouldn't work as well since even the thinnnest is still too thick for me to be willing to carry around in a pocket.

Re:If you have the right pants (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34691430)

My iPad fits in my back pants pocket just fine

you must be really fat !

Re:If you have the right pants (1)

wisdom_brewing (557753) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691800)

seriously? how the hell do you dress? i work in a professional environment, i cant wear stupidly baggy jeans with huge pockets/cargo pants... 9.7 diagonal screen is just not a possibility...

Re:ergh (1)

GreatDrok (684119) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691180)

"10" minimum - to comfortably read a page of text in landscape without zooming."

Reading isn't the issue - as others have pointed out you can read pages on a much smaller screen if the resolution is high enough and also if the device renders the page accordingly. However, try actually using a web site using a small touch screen and it is a different matter. On my iPad I can just get along with most pages when I use it in landscape mode but if it was any smaller I often wouldn't be able to hit links accurately without first having to zoom the page in. I sometimes have to do this on the iPad but it is thankfully rare but if the screen was smaller it would be much to frequent.

Re:ergh (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691730)

10" minimum - to comfortably read a page of text in landscape without zooming.

Assuming the page of text is designed to read on a letter/A4 page, a ~14" display is necessary to display the full page at the size it is designed to be viewed. A 10" screen is about right for typical trade paperback size pages.

How much reduction below design size is tolerable will vary from person to person, but many documents are already at the limit of readability at their design size, so any smaller device screen will require zooming and panning for a substantial fraction of users, even if it had the clarity of print.

Re:ergh (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690772)

Because the iPad is too big.

If I wanted to lug around a device that big I'd get a netbook, which has USB and an SD card reader.

The advantage of the tablet form factor is portability, and the ipad is a little too big and heavy to be a significant win in this area.

Re:ergh (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34691006)

I disagree. I use mine similarly to my five friends which also have them, and that's for reading websites while around the house - living room sofa, in bed, etc. I don't care what you say, you can't comfortably curl up in a bed with a netbook on Sunday morning - the keyboard gets in the way, and it needs a touchscreen - screw trackpads! Everyone uses their smartphones for what you are talking about.

Re:ergh (1)

wisdom_brewing (557753) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691860)

if i buy an iPad its for portability, not to use around the house... i have a tv/computer with wireless keyboard in the living room, laptop lying around, iPhone for personal, blackberry for worl... with internet for checking trivial stuff, anything more than trivial i feel i need to get out of bed anyway...iPad just to have around the home? seems like a waste

Re:ergh (4, Insightful)

dhovis (303725) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690810)

Because, believe it or not, Apple came in at a price point that nobody could match without Apple's sales volume. The only way to under cut Apple's price is to reduce the screen size. By half, it turns out (7^2 = 49, 10^2 =100).

Re:ergh (0)

0123456 (636235) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690872)

Because, believe it or not, Apple came in at a price point that nobody could match without Apple's sales volume.

So Apple sell a netbook with no keyboard and an ARM CPU for twice the price of a netbook and no-one can compete with it on price?

Perhaps you're right, but that seems... odd.

Re:ergh (4, Informative)

dhovis (303725) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691428)

Because, believe it or not, Apple came in at a price point that nobody could match without Apple's sales volume.

So Apple sell a netbook with no keyboard and an ARM CPU for twice the price of a netbook and no-one can compete with it on price?

Perhaps you're right, but that seems... odd.

Calling the iPad a netbook with no keyboard it a bit of a stretch. Even if you don't like Apple, you'd be hard pressed to find a netbook with an IPS LCD display, for example. Also, I don't know of any netbooks that have a touchscreen, which more than makes up (costwise) for the lack of a keyboard.

Anyway, If anyone could make a 10" iPad competitor at $500 or less, they'd have done so by now. That everyone who is trying is coming in at half the screen size should be confirmation. There were stories when the iPad was announced that it was going to $800-$1000. Everyone was preparing tablet competitors to go up against that price range. When the iPad came out at $500, it submarined everyone else's plans. It killed the HP Slate, for instance.

Re:ergh (1)

wisdom_brewing (557753) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691902)

What apple have is a beautifully accessible user interface... hell, even my parents are considering switching to iPhone after almost 15 years with nokia after seeing my phone.

I love the interface, i hate everything else...

Re:ergh (2, Insightful)

AK Marc (707885) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691446)

So Apple sell a netbook with no keyboard and an ARM CPU for twice the price of a netbook and no-one can compete with it on price?

It has a keyboard. It's on-screen. And no other netbook comes close. There's no Microsoft OS designed for touch input (there are some that "support" it, but not designed for it). Same with Linux, but there are some netbook versions out there getting better. So, just from the point of a netbook with a usable touchscreen, there is nothing out there in that price range.

But no, rather than evaluating it based on the market's opinion, you imply that your opinion on what's competitive is correct and evaluate it that way. If you were right, then the netbooks that come with a big, heavy keyboard, hinges, greater weight, greater size and all that which are cheaper would have been flying off the shelves before the iPad got here. They didn't, so you are demonstrably wrong. They can't be competitors if people still aren't buying them at half the price. But rather than actually thinking about it, you assert it to be some fanboyism or irrationality and that you are right and every other person on the entire planet is wrong.

Re:ergh (1)

peragrin (659227) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691472)

twice the price of a netbook? where? Most netbooks are $300-400 the ipad is only about 25% greater.

and yes no one can compete on price. Acer stated right after the ipad pricing was annouced that they were expecting it to be sold around $899-$999. When Apple said $499 the entire industry cried.

That is why it has been a year and there is literally only one decent competitor on the market(Galaxy tab), and that is selling for more than the ipad even though it is smaller.(wifi only version is expected to be at $599.

Re:ergh (1)

choko (44196) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691052)

Their market research probably shows that people prefer a smaller screen on tablet, or that a smaller screen for less money is preferable to a larger screen for more money. Do you really think they enter in to a project of this scale without doing a little research first?

Re:ergh (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691836)

The fallacy of market research.

Need I remind people that market research also said that New Coke and Crystal Pepsi were going to be huge?

Re:ergh (1)

gilesjuk (604902) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691158)

Cheapness and stupidity.

7 inch screens are cheaper and less casing is cheaper too. Not to mention less batteries. The iPad is full of big batteries to get that long run time. Competitors will just skimp on the battery life and materials the wonder why their product isn't as well received.

Re:ergh (1)

wisdom_brewing (557753) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691956)

iPad is fantastic with its battery life agreed, why cant the bastards do the same with the iphone? "slimmest smarphone" - bah, let me get by a day without needing a charger at home and at the office...

Re:ergh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34691308)

Specifically, why is nobody doing an 8.5x11" screen? I'd buy three, pretty much regardless of quality or price, just as an experiment to try to get my boss and the other two luddites here off the 'print every single one of my emails' crack. There is absolutely no chance whatsoever that my boss in particular would use anything smaller. A little extra room to add a few buttons would be nice too, but the 8.5x11 display is essential to at least a subset of business users.

There was one a while back that had an 8.5x11 form factor but the screen was significantly smaller IIRC..

Re:ergh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34691508)

I agree, I want a 10" display.

Re:ergh (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691580)

My guess is price, time to market, and uniqueness. 10" multi-touch screens are relatively new and maybe hard to manufacture in large quantities at the moment and maybe costly. Remember Apple probably worked on the iPad for a long time so they had time to line up their suppliers. Also if there was a critical component that is in short supply, Apple (like any manufacturer) would have locked up the supply.

For example, when Apple first came out with the iPod, one of the distinguishing features of it was that it was the size of deck of cards while holding about 5 GB. At the time other large MP3 players used notebook drives and were the size of a portable CD player. This was made possible by tiny HDs that Toshiba had just invented. Apple subsequently locked up the supply of tiny drives by buying out all of Toshiba's new product. Apple might have done the same with the 10" screens.

Competitors seeing a limited supply might have opted to work on a 7" version first in order to get out a product sooner rather than later.

Lastly, everyone probably knows about the 10" iPad by now. A smaller version is more distinctive to the consumer.

Re:ergh (1)

Stan Vassilev (939229) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691606)

Why are all these ipad competitors doing 7 inch screens?

They use the cheap mass produced screens already used in portable DVD players. This is why many of those 7 inch tablets are also 16:9 and not 4:3, which makes more sense.

Re:ergh (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691642)

Why are all these ipad competitors doing 7 inch screens?

Not all the non-iPad tablets that have been announced, had specs leaked, or, for that matter, are already on the market have 7" screens.

Some of them have 10" screens, like the iPad. Some of them have 7" screens. Some of them have bigger screens. Some of them have smaller screens.

And the reason for the variety of screen sizes is because not every manufacturer thinks that 10 inches is the One True Size for tablets.

Price (1)

FishTankX (1539069) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690498)

Because they're probably cheap and don't require the display grunt to drive a larger one. If they can sell for $300 it'll be difficult for the iPad to compete in the 'Entry tablet market'. And it makes it easier for tablets to compete with netbooks.

Re:Price (2)

Anon-Admin (443764) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690754)

$300?? How about $210?? Strange that you can get a 10.2" one for about $200 but Dell is pushing a 7" one.

I got a 10.2" android 2.1 pad (1ghz, camera, GPS, etc) and love it!

EBay Rocks [ebay.com].

Re:Price (1)

bflong (107195) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691454)

Resistive Touchscreen, not quite enough RAM. Videos I found show it not rotating automatically, and performance a bit choppy. Slightly outdated Android 2.1.
So close though.

Re:Price (1)

Anon-Admin (443764) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691690)

Odd, it rotates fine for me. All the way around. As to the choppy performance, make sure you are looking at the right one. The last one I had was choppy but this one is not. As to ram That is subjective. I have not had any issues with the ram in it. Ok I can only have 11 items running at once, but it is not an issue for me. The slightly outdated v2.1, well some time cutting edge is better than bleeding edge. It takes time for them to get the upgrades out and android is changing quickly. There are good points and bad to that but 2.1 runs great for me.

Re:Price (1)

alen (225700) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690874)

have you missed the iPod line? $79 to $399 with different features at each price point

  i bet apple comes out with a 7" iPad next month for the same price or less. if someone is going to order millions of 7" screens then apple's spies will probably tip them off about it

Missing feature (2)

Gerald (9696) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690552)

Unless it includes a fully functional "Young Lady's Illustrated Primer" it's destined for failure.

Re:Missing feature (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34691080)

He's alluding to the Diamond Age...

Don't shake it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34690556)

Although it may have a tilt sensor, don't shake it. If you shake it, it turns into a kitten.

Re:Don't shake it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34691114)

LOL

OS? (1)

Iphtashu Fitz (263795) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690674)

Sorry for my ignorance regarding this tablet, but what OS is it planning to come with?

ZSense (1)

eyenot (102141) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690776)

That's neat, it looks like they're using some kind of inductance interference to register finger proximity to the touch pad, so you don't even necessarily have to touch the screen. They're only using one attenuator/sensor, so it will only serve the purpose of turning the screen/device on when you move your finger near it, but if they were to use several then theoretically you could do away with the "touch" aspect. Forgive me if any of that's olden but it's news to me.

Just tell me (1)

ThePangolino (1756190) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690806)

...this has not anything to do with Looking Glass [java.net] does it?
The project seemed to me worth of interest back then.

Re:Just tell me (1)

crankyspice (63953) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690962)

vacuous ad copy? (2)

fermion (181285) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690864)

a powerful chip for mobile devices that can support both typical functions (like e-mail and Web browsing) as well as advanced graphics — all while preserving battery life.

This seems like ad copy meant to promote a technology that may or may not be successful. The mobile devices that have use the chip, the Kin and Zune, are not widely successful. The tablet that has used this chip, the Folio 100, has evidently been pulled from shelves and has required a firmware update to be minimally function. This is surprising as the chip uses the SOC model that all other tablets use. And there does not seem any cost saving for use the chip and Android, as the prices seems the same as an iPad.

I am looking forward to the tablets, as a $300 tablet will revolutionize the way we interact, but I do not see such devices yet, and this chip does not seem to move the market forward in any meaningful way, other than in the area of meaningless jargon.

With Apologies to Lewis Carroll (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34690936)

He got so frustrated with his new tablet that he threw the Looking Glass out the window.

Screen too small (1)

LoudMusic (199347) | more than 3 years ago | (#34690946)

It appears most people want a bigger screen - the size of the iPad for example. The iPad's screen isn't big enough for me! I want a screen that is the size and shape of either A4 or 8.5x11. A true paper replacement. And it would need to be fairly high resolution, and speedy.

Re:Screen too small (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34691582)

Would you like a pony as well? Maybe some ice cream or a dolly?

Tired of hearing about tablets? (0)

carcomp (1887830) | more than 3 years ago | (#34691388)

Does anyone tire of hearing about tablets? I am pretty sure I remember some buzz like this around 'tablet laptops'... The ones that the monitor spins around and you use a pen. Turns out those weren't as wonderful as we thought. Almost everyone used the keyboards after about 5 minutes. Some time goes by, and we get the iPad. Its interesting, but I still don't get the *real* point of it. The device itself isn't particularly useful for business. I've seen them 'forced' into a business and not really work any better than an iPhone for scheduling meetings. The business model was pure creative on top of that, something that Apple clearly caters to with their design cues. Other than being a really fancy calendar and email thing, it was not particularly useful. We didn't pass them around looking at graphs and images, we used the overhead projector hooked to a PC. Not everyone runs around in fancy suits doing business on the go, smiling like stock photo people... not having time for a PC. Most of us use a desktop. Until something can be *that* useful, its just going to be a 'oooh I gotta have that' thing, not unlike a kid wants a particular toy because their friends have it or they see cool advertising. I don't think screen size is an important factor, and I also don't think that available applications are the factor. Theres a million for the iphone, yet I only install maybe 10 on mine. Until someone finds a way to do useful database administration, or web development from one of these devices, I don't see them really finding a good use other than entertainment.
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