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Elliptic Labs To Bring Touchless Gestures To iPad

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the unhand-me-sir-unhand-me dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Elliptic Labs will reveal their Touchless Gesture User Interface technology at CES 2011. Elliptic Labs sprung forth from the signal processing environment at the University of Oslo and what they've come up with is an [iPad] dock which creates a 'touchless zone' that extends out about 1 foot in front and to the sides of the iPad screen. Users can then initiate a number of gestures, much like on Microsoft Kinect, to manipulate onscreen content."

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55 comments

First Post (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34695980)

First Post~First Post~~~First Post___First

Re:First Post (1)

monkyyy (1901940) | more than 2 years ago | (#34706578)

no u were 2nd

Poor choice for name (1)

PatPending (953482) | more than 3 years ago | (#34695996)

Is the person who chose the name "Elliptic" vis-à-vis "Epileptic" fit for the job?

Re:Poor choice for name (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34696042)

Good choice for the iPad - no flash !

Re:Poor choice for name (1)

spazdor (902907) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696068)

Heh. "fit."

Re:Poor choice for name (1)

PatPending (953482) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696256)

Heh. "fit."

Heh. User name "spazdor."

Re:Poor choice for name (1)

Helen Keller (842669) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696494)

ClGNNNNehod!

Re:Poor choice for name (1)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696124)

Is the person who chose the name "Elliptic" vis-à-vis "Epileptic" fit for the job?

Unless he is Venus [wikipedia.org] , I think he is.

Re:Poor choice for name (1)

unitron (5733) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696128)

It's tired and I'm getting late.

I swear I first saw that as Epileptic Labs, which made the mention of touchless gestures particularly dark comedy.

Re:Poor choice for name (2)

PatPending (953482) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696172)

It's tired and I'm getting late.

+1 FOR UNINTENTIONAL IRONY

Re:Poor choice for name (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 3 years ago | (#34697490)

-1 for failing to recognize sarcastic irony

Re:Poor choice for name (1)

unitron (5733) | more than 3 years ago | (#34702282)

I promise you, it was entirely intentional. I've been using that line for about 40 years now.

Re:Poor choice for name (1)

icannotthinkofaname (1480543) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696278)

I also read it as Epileptic Labs. I was also amused by the thought of the gestures being little more than rapid, random shaking due to seizures.

Don't worry. You are not alone. :-)

Re:Poor choice for name (2)

eggnoglatte (1047660) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696392)

And what moron tagged this "Sweden"?

Re:Poor choice for name (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34696414)

Sweden, Norway [ellipticlabs.com] --it's all foreign to /. editors.

Re:Poor choice for name (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34696712)

The Nobel price is Swedish and it's handed out in Oslo, so Sweden makes perfect sense.

Re:Poor choice for name (2)

cronius (813431) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696878)

There are six different [nobelprize.org] nobel prizes, and only one of them (the peace prize) is handed out in Norway.

Re:Poor choice for name (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34697758)

The worst kind of moron: an American.

Good, now put it in a kitchen appliance! (4, Insightful)

ThreeGigs (239452) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696020)

I see usage scenarios for computers in the kitchen all the time, and each time I cringe at the thought of what the interfaces on those things will look like after typing/touching them with hands full of whatever foodstuffs the cook was working with. Market something like this for an iPad in the kitchen and I'd consider it useful.

Re:Good, now put it in a kitchen appliance! (1)

Joce640k (829181) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696096)

+1 ... I was just going to say "can't you manage to reach that last foot to the screen" but I guess you found a reason - filthy hands.

Re:Good, now put it in a kitchen appliance! (2)

beschra (1424727) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696144)

That was my first thought. If it works well enough, I can imagine a number of scenarios where you'd want hands-free interaction with a device. Wouldn't have to be an ipad, though. Could be anything. Since it's infrared, it may work even if the device is in a protected space behind a thick plate of glass.

Re:Good, now put it in a kitchen appliance! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34696232)

I can imagine a number of scenarios where you'd want hands-free interaction with a device.

Not for porn you wouldn't--the screen would be jerking up & down, trying to keep up with you polishing your rocket.

Re:Good, now put it in a kitchen appliance! (2)

PatPending (953482) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696448)

Since it's infrared,...

No, it's ultrasonic; this is indicated at six seconds into the video, and at their website (http://www.ellipticlabs.com/technology/). And no, infrared does not penetrate glass very well.

Re:Good, now put it in a kitchen appliance! (2)

PatPending (953482) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696312)

I for one don't want the ol' lady cooking with wine (sometimes she even puts it in the food!) and waving a 10" knife around while gesticulating, trying to get this frickin' Touchless Gesture User Interface Technology to find the right friggin' recipe!

Re:Good, now put it in a kitchen appliance! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34696338)

Yeah, sounds like a recipe for disaster!

Re:Good, now put it in a kitchen appliance! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34696516)

Market something like this for an iPad in the kitchen

Market something like this with Tom Cruise and three precogs ...

and I'd consider it useful.

Oh wait...

Re:Good, now put it in a kitchen appliance! (1)

Linker3000 (626634) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696540)

If only there was some type of wipe-clean passive material that could be supplied in a card-index style format with individual recipes printed on it, or perhaps some form of perspex or glass shielding that could be placed over a recipe book then we wouldn't need to spend so much to bring our remote touch technology and expensive touchscreen devices into such a hostile environment.

Re:Good, now put it in a kitchen appliance! (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 3 years ago | (#34697506)

The obvious solution for those determined to employ a computer is a fridge-mount PC with a washable-face glass touchscreen. This sort of thing is still stupidly expensive as a refrigerator option but the age of cheap tablets is upon us and retrofitting one seems like it ought to be cost-effective soon.

Another obvious solution would be to make portable electronics rugged by default. If manufacturers got into the habit of at least making them waterproof and wipe-clean then the technology to do so would become cheaper.

Re:Good, now put it in a kitchen appliance! (1)

StripedCow (776465) | more than 3 years ago | (#34697076)

No, observing the behavior of people, I'd say we definitely need a gesture interface in the car first!

Re:Good, now put it in a kitchen appliance! (1)

EdgeyEdgey (1172665) | more than 3 years ago | (#34700550)

How about during surgery? Germ free information.

Come on guys, at least fake the demo (1)

ZackSchil (560462) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696048)

The demo video makes it look unresponsive and crappy. I fear its performance under less ideal circumstances.

"gorilla arm syndrome" anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34696050)

why would you flap your hand at the screen when you can just reach another inch forward and more effectively (and more comfortably) *touch* it

Re:"gorilla arm syndrome" anyone? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34696094)

Re:"gorilla arm syndrome" anyone? (1)

PatPending (953482) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696122)

There's an iGlove [fffff.at] (TM) (Pat. Pending) for that.

Inefficient, clumsy, awkward appearance (3, Insightful)

PatPending (953482) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696082)

After watching the video, I conclude this is grossly inefficient. For example, instead of touching the display and moving a finger say an inch or two, one has to move their entire arm about 18-to-24 inches.

Also consider the unintended consequences from making these gross gestures in proximity to persons or objects: accidentally hitting someone and knocking things over (e.g., your Iced Caffè Mocha). One simply would not want to use this in a crowded, cluttered place.

Plus one would look ridiculous the faster one tried to gesture!

Re:Inefficient, clumsy, awkward appearance (1)

Aeternitas827 (1256210) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696572)

I'd imagine this sort of thing would have ideal application in an environment like the one Tony Stark works within (in the movies); wave your hands, make threatening-looking finger swipes, and shit happens.

All we need to complete the sequence is screens floating in mid-air, and giant armor suits that can do amazingly destructive things.

And the comments above were worried about the kitchen...no need for touching/swiping, a simple 'sudo make me a sandwich' will always do the trick.

Re:Inefficient, clumsy, awkward appearance (1)

once janister (1967148) | more than 3 years ago | (#34699062)

That is completely unnecessary technology for the iPad. Coming from someone who doesn't even like touch screens you could consider me biased. Call me old fashioned but I still like pressing physical buttons.

I can haz theremin? (1)

gmhowell (26755) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696130)

Just what I always wanted to do: control a computer with a theremin [wikipedia.org] . There's an app for that [thereminworld.com] . Twelve or more, actually...

First Post (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34696132)

FIRST POST

Re:First Post (1)

PatPending (953482) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696156)

FIRST POST

...using the Elliptic Labs Touchless Gesture User Interface technology... s l o w l y

I for one... Sorry, has to be done... (1)

Agent__Smith (168715) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696236)

I for one would like to take this opportunity to welcome our new touchless overlords...

Re:I for one... Sorry, has to be done... (1)

Aeternitas827 (1256210) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696574)

You mean we're getting rid of the TSA?!

Onscreen content? (1)

aiht (1017790) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696242)

> "Users can then initiate a number of gestures, much like on Microsoft Kinect, to manipulate onscreen content."

What if I want to manipulate offscreen content instead?
Actually never mind, I couldn't do that with a touchscreen either.

Something like this? (1)

magus_melchior (262681) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696250)

You: *hand wave* You do not wish to see my papers.
iPad: I, uh... I don't wish to see your papers.
You: These aren't the Droids you're looking for.
iPad: These aren't the Droids I'm looking for.
You: Move along.
iPad: Move along.

Re:Something like this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34697754)

Lame. Shut up.

There's touchless zones everywhere (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34696264)

At the local strip bar they have a 'touch-and-go' rule. You touch, you go. Usually the pre-gesture gives away your drunken intentions...

I'm just wondering... (1)

PhasmatisApparatus (1086395) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696450)

if emacs or vi will support gesture recognition first.

hmm.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34696480)

I bet Microsoft is pissed. Wonder if there is a patent involved...?

Tagged Sweden? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34696518)

Oslo is in Norway.

Vaio deja vu (1)

Leon Buijs (545859) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696776)

I was at a friends house last weekend and he demonstrated his new Vaio laptop, which responded exactly like the apparatus in this video. Only it used the webcam, I guess. Like in the video, it doesn't work flawlessly, you easily gesture to fast for it.

but will the device... (1)

bball99 (232214) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696828)

know the difference between my gesture and my cat's insane interest in all things digital? i have to put him on the floor dozens of times already while working on a non-gesture desktop or notebook

Minority (2)

cstacy (534252) | more than 3 years ago | (#34696904)

I predict that only a minority of iPod users will enjoy the UI featured in this report.

Ridiculous (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34697110)

The current state of the art can't even predict the weather.
I think they are being overambitious with this project

odd bit of dyslexia... (1)

Type44Q (1233630) | more than 3 years ago | (#34697974)

Having just woken up with my vision still a bit fuzzy, I read the title as "Epileptic Labs To Bring Touchless Gestures..." and it actually made sense in a strange sort of way...

Just waiting for the next lawsuit... (1)

mswhippingboy (754599) | more than 3 years ago | (#34698646)

I'm sure Apple has a patent on this..probably something like "Using fingers to interact with a computing device"
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