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China Censors 60,000 Porn Sites, 5,000 Arrested

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the neverending-battle dept.

Censorship 219

lothos writes with news that China has arrested thousands more people and shuttered 60,000 websites in an ongoing anti-pornography crackdown. "Wang Chen, director of the Information Office of the State Council, said at a news conference that some 350 million pieces of pornographic and indecent internet content were eliminated, according to the Xinhua report. The government launched a special campaign a year ago to rid the internet of pornographic and vulgar content, Xinhua reported. Overall, the campaign included 2,197 criminal cases involving 4,965 people who violated Chinese law by disseminating pornography via the internet or mobile phones, the news agency said. Of those, 58 people received prison sentences exceeding five years."

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Silly Chinese! (2)

PeopleMakeMeLOL (1717442) | more than 3 years ago | (#34721894)

They obviously didn't get the memo: the Internet IS for porn! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWEjvCRPrCo [youtube.com]

Re:Silly Chinese! (1)

oldspewey (1303305) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722186)

This story is worthless without pics.

Re:Silly Chinese! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722344)

No, they got it. You depraved porn watchers are all going to hell. I'm glad these filthy people got arrested. They should all be executed immediately. Think of all the poor innocent girls and children being exploited and tellb me I'm wrong.

Re:Silly Chinese! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722356)

This isn't only about innocent girls and boys, it's about all porn.

izzat u, fred? (1)

airdrummer (547536) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722522)

fred phelps?-]

Re:Silly Chinese! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722582)

Sneaky troll. Everyone on slashdot is a basement dweller, so we all look at porn. You almost fooled me.

welcome to china (5, Interesting)

wan9xu (1829310) | more than 3 years ago | (#34721900)

where government officials can openly keep harems but citizens can't even watch porn.

Re:welcome to china (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34721954)

Welcome to America, where Congressmen can fight for and pass laws discriminating against gays, while they bang boys in their offices, suck cock in airport bathrooms and so on.

All politicians think they are gods above the law while the people are mere inconveniences for them to rule over. The only difference in China is that at least they are honest about being totalitarian.

Re:welcome to china (1, Interesting)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722546)

The other difference is that here, at least the laws aren't as totalitarian. I'd rather have politicians who dishonestly slap me from time to time (then claim they didn't) than politicians who rape me openly.

Rape? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722902)

By 'here' I assume you mean 'America', and by 'rape', I assume you're a frothing loon who doesn't seem to realize that our government has an entire department dedicated to executing sanctioned sexual molestation on citizens at random.

Or does that not count? If so, you don't mind if I paw at your crotch, do you? It's patriotic, it is.

Re:welcome to china (2, Insightful)

gtall (79522) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722696)

How can this be rated insightful. The fellow argued from a few isolated cases to damn every congress-critter. Most congress-critters are fine, upstanding people; their biggest problem is putting up with the American people; the American people believe the worst while refusing to take any responsibility for the state of the country.

Re:welcome to china (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722894)

> Most congress-critters are fine, upstanding people; their biggest problem is putting up with the American people

Awww. that's so cute! Did Santa bring you that belief in magic?

Politicians don't get into office unless they are desperately hungry for power. Everyone else who isn't gets raped by the people who are.

Politicians live to serve themselves and their biggest contributors. If you ain't paying the bills, you are nothing to them except the annoying thing they have to dupe into voting for them every now and again.

If you believe otherwise, I have a great bridge to nowhere you may be interested in buying.

USA: secret kill threats, wiretapping, more war. (2, Informative)

jbn-o (555068) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722924)

I would have liked to see more detail as well, however I think it's not hard to find serious faults with what the US Congress does and what it tacitly agrees with by not objecting. I don't see most "congress-critters" doing anything to stop some of the most heinous behavior the US government engages in. A few recent examples include:

  • killing foreigners in illegal, immoral (and increasingly unpopular and costly) wars of aggression in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Yemen
  • stopping the US president from making death threats against Americans [salon.com] without due process or charges of any kind
  • keeping such threats secret (to the point where Obama's DOJ doesn't want judges ruling on the legality of such action)
  • and inventing new forms of government immunity [salon.com] aimed at allowing the US government permission to intercept all your calls (and emails and so on)

This all happened under President's Obama's watch. This all happened with overwhelmingly silent complicity of his Democratic Party Congress. Glenn Greenwald, former constitutional law and civil rights litigator, calls this wiretapping "at least as pernicious as any power asserted during the Bush/Cheney years".

That's hardly the behavior I'd expect from "fine, upstanding people".

Re:welcome to china (1)

sourcerror (1718066) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722796)

It's not porn if it's the government doing it to you ;)

Re:welcome to china (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34721966)

Having sex isn't dirty, thinking about it is.

Actually its China, so just thinking in general is dirty.

Re:welcome to china (4, Interesting)

couchslug (175151) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722074)

I find it odd that the ChiCom government should CARE about porn.

Any insights on that one?

Let the citizens fap in peace and they won't rebel, while profiteering from said fappage could enrich the oligarchy.

Re:welcome to china (1)

oldspewey (1303305) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722242)

It must be a "disrupting the social order" thing ... though how exactly porn disrupts the social order I'm not sure.

Re:welcome to china (2)

wan9xu (1829310) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722260)

the way chicom preaches, sex is for reproduction purposes, and any sexual act not related to reproduction is a bourgeois extravagance. it's further infused with elements of chinese tradition (from confucian/buddhist roots), where sex is considered dirty and degrading, and only to be practiced to maintain the blood lineage.

Re:welcome to china (1)

Pax681 (1002592) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722424)

the way chicom preaches, sex is for reproduction purposes, and any sexual act not related to reproduction is a bourgeois extravagance. it's further infused with elements of chinese tradition (from confucian/buddhist roots), where sex is considered dirty and degrading, and only to be practiced to maintain the blood lineage.

Really? is that why they are only allowed one chiuld each by law?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy

i think you are getting China and the church of Rome mixed up here

having met quite a lot of chinese students studying here in Edinburgh it seems that condoms and other forms of contraception aree given FREE by the govt so the populace can pork away with impunity without worrying about having any babies that are conbsidered surplus to requirement......

there is no stigma associated with sex at all in china as far as they were concerned.

Re:welcome to china (1)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722716)

the way chicom preaches, sex is for reproduction purposes, and any sexual act not related to reproduction is a bourgeois extravagance. it's further infused with elements of chinese tradition (from confucian/buddhist roots), where sex is considered dirty and degrading, and only to be practiced to maintain the blood lineage.

Sex is dirty, and only approved for reproduction? They're Catholics!!!
No wonder the Chinese Communist party is appointing Catholic bishops etc in China nowadays. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11937807 [bbc.co.uk]

Re:welcome to china (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722298)

It seems to fly in the face of the one-child policy. I suppose what that means is that the real position of the Chinese government is population growth, despite any official trappings otherwise.

Re:welcome to china (4, Insightful)

jnbszabo (742347) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722318)

Neal Stephenson, in his novel the Diamond Age, goes on at length about the Chinese' hysterical fear of anarchy. It may not be porn as such the Chinese rulers fear, just like it isn't opium or heroin that frightens them, but rather the inability to contain the consequences of potential runaway overindulgence. It might be a case of choosing the devil you know (the consequences of overbearingness) versus the devil you don't know (anarchy). Tien an menh square was an illustration of this.

Re:welcome to china (1)

Hoi Polloi (522990) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722326)

Wasn't access to porn part of the foundation of the oligarchy in 1984? You'd think the Chinese government would want the people to keep themselves entertained instead of grumbling. I don't see why they'd want to have some sort of puritanical society. Maybe they have a Chinese Oliver Cromwell in charge now.

Re:welcome to china (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722562)

Wasn't access to porn part of the foundation of the oligarchy in 1984?

Maybe for the Inner Party, but not for the Outer Party. Remember the Junior Anti-Sex League? The only Outer Party personnel involved in porn were the ones in pornosec - the section of Minitrue responsible for porn as prolefeed.

The reasoning was pretty clear in the book, and applies to both the current Eastasian and Oceanian governments: Anything that might bring pleasure outside of the Party must be strictly regulated. If you could spend your day fapping it, you'd be much less inclined to be angry, tense, and nervous, and the Two-Minute Hate would be less effective as a source of psychological release.

Re:welcome to china (2, Insightful)

Blue Stone (582566) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722368)

I'm not sure that they care about porn so much as care about controlling 'their' citizens. Power needs to be used to be appreciated; without exercising power and control over others, how can one know one has it? It's like music - unless it's being played, it doesn't exist. So they crack down on this and that.

Sex and sexuality is one area where people are the most wilfull - acting for their own (er) ends; of their own volition. It seems like the perfect area to (er) crack down on for an organisation of people looking to exercise control over others and subject them to their will; keep them in line.

Re:welcome to china (3, Interesting)

TarPitt (217247) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722888)

Relevant quote from 1984:

With Julia, everything came back to her own sexuality. As soon as this was touched upon in any way she was capable of great acuteness. Unlike Winston, she had grasped the inner meaning of the Party's sexual puritanism. It was not merely that the sex instinct created a world of its own which was outside the Party's control and which therefore had to be destroyed if possible. What was more important was that sexual privation induced hysteria, which was desirable because it could be transformed into war-fever and leader-worship. The way she put it was:

'When you make love you're using up energy; and afterwards you feel happy and don't give a damn for anything. They can't bear you to feel like that. They want you to be bursting with energy all the time. All this marching up and down and cheering and waving flags is simpIy sex gone sour. If you're happy inside yourself, why should you get excited about Big Brother and the Three-Year Plans and the Two Minutes Hate and all the rest of their bloody rot?'

Re:welcome to china (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722480)

I find it odd that the ChiCom government should CARE about porn.

Any insights on that one?

Let the citizens fap in peace and they won't rebel, while profiteering from said fappage could enrich the oligarchy.

I find it odd that the U.S. government should CARE about certain drugs.

Any insights on that one?

Let the citizens get stoned/ripped/trashed/high in peace and they won't rebel, while profiteering from said legalization and taxation of said controlled substances could enrich the oligarchy.

I think both questions have the same answer.

Re:welcome to china (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722564)

Neatly juxtaposed, is the banner ads I saw on pussy.org for mcain/palin in 08.

I saved a screenshot, but it's not exactly a picture I like to show people :-/

I was surprised no-one picked up on that. Maybe on the right porn is good, and on the left it's bad. I may be a republican after all!

Re:welcome to china (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722608)

Why not?

My country used to be a dictatorship until 30 years ago. The military in power would focus on squelching rebellion, yet soon enough they expanded to controlling every aspect of public (and sometimes private) life. Down to which songs it was ok to sing, or which kind of characters was ok to portray in TV (e.g. a foolish/ignorant character wasn't ok, nor was it ok to disrespect authority in fiction).

Basically, give anyone unlimited power, and they'll make use of it any way they see fit, no matter how outrageous it might seem to you. That's why power checks are so important.

Re:welcome to china (4, Insightful)

blind biker (1066130) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722710)

I find it odd that the ChiCom government should CARE about porn.

Any insights on that one?

Obviously, in China the rich and powerful can get as much pussy as they want. Denying the same to the working classes/masses is useful, as a frustrated sexual libido (in China, there is a lack of women, at the moment) can be focused very easily. It is how you control these masses, by promising them a bright future ("more (than 0) pussy") or channeling the rage against Japan, capitalist imperialism etc. whatever is convenient.

Same thing in Islamist societies: the rich and powerful can have multiple wives, necessarily removing them from the pool for the general populace, who then believes in 72 virgins in another dimension, and all they have to do, is be exceptionally good Muslims (blow oneself up).

These are methods to obscure the reality of the situation, to deflect the anger from those who really deserve it.

Re:welcome to china (1)

Zedrick (764028) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722116)

Source? Everybody "knows" this is the case in certain arabic countries, but the PRC? Never seen that claim before (about today's PRC government I mean, it's well known fact that Mao had a lot of girls.... available.)

Re:welcome to china (2)

wan9xu (1829310) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722534)

sorry, i'm not going to translate all that news for you. so you'll need to:

step 1: learn chinese.

step 2: search news using keywords "corrupt official" (pinyin: tan1 guan1) and word for "lover" (pinyin: qing2 fu 4). slashdot apparently doesn't take any chinese characters.

step 3: read.

Well, at least in China... (1)

simon0411 (1921684) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722684)

...those in power make it pretty clear that porn is illegal. In the US, there's all this uncertainty over obscenity, arbitrary definitions of what is or is not art, such that no one really knows whether they are breaking the law until after the fact. And that's the whole point of it, to keep everyone in confusion and fear. Heck, this year we persecuted a man for importing Japanese *comics*. That pretty much revoked our license to poke fun at archaic laws in other countries for the next 20 years.

There's a substitute (1)

sourcerror (1718066) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722804)

They might not have porn but they can still get screwed by the government.

interesting name (-1)

Psychotic_Wrath (693928) | more than 3 years ago | (#34721904)

I hope i'm not the only one that laughed when I found out a guy named Wang is in charge of censoring Porn

Right wingers in the U.S...... (1, Troll)

mrsteveman1 (1010381) | more than 3 years ago | (#34721924)

...are taking notes right now. They'd love to do this, and have been openly trying for a looong time.

There is no left or right (4, Insightful)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722034)

So censoring sexually explicit works of authorship is a right-wing plank in the United States, but it's left-wing in red China. Doesn't that destroy the meaning of "left wing" and "right wing"?

Re:There is no left or right (4, Funny)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722088)

This is clearly a Euro-central idea and thus in Asia its left wing and in North America its Right wing.

Re:There is no left or right (1)

cyfer2000 (548592) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722094)

"right wing" and "left wing" are relative and exchangeable.

Re:There is no left or right (4, Funny)

oldspewey (1303305) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722168)

Doesn't that destroy the meaning of "left wing" and "right wing"?

Porn ... is there anything it can't do?

Re:There is no left or right (1)

socsoc (1116769) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722618)

It can't make me a damn sandwich.

Re:There is no left or right (2)

Shikaku (1129753) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722654)

http://goo.gl/sF5kz [goo.gl]

Be careful what you wish for...

Re:There is no left or right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722668)

apparently you are into the wrong porn then.

Re:There is no left or right (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34723012)

I dream of the day when Michael Moore and Glenn Beck can sit down respectfully, hold hands, and watch porn together.

Re:There is no left or right (2, Insightful)

DarkVader (121278) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722188)

There's nothing "left-wing" about modern China. It's not communist, it's not socialist. It's turned into a modern fascist-corporatist state.

Public health care is nearly as bad as in the US. The Gini coefficient is in the same range as the US.

If you want to see what happens when the left actually gets power, take a look at the Scandinavian countries - you get public health, a much more even distribution of wealth, and quite a bit of personal freedom. In other words, not China.

Re:There is no left or right (3, Insightful)

operagost (62405) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722626)

If by "personal freedom" you mean being free to go to jail if you are a conscientious objector and refuse to serve in the military, then yes. Oh year, and you're free to pay taxes to support the state Lutheran church, while being barred from preaching in a public place.

An "even distribution of wealth" means those who are productive have their reward taken away and given to those who aren't.

Big government is not good.

Re:There is no left or right (1)

PPH (736903) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722210)

Both reflect a philosophy that the individual's wants/needs are secondary to those of a powerful state. We are here to serve the collective. In the west, the collective is a theocracy. Actually its much like the Wizard of Oz. There is no wizard. The smoke and mirrors serve to support an illusion that the high priests create for their benefit (pay no attention to that man behind the curtain). In China, the authority is the Communist party. A bit more straightforward in that the people who are running your lives are real and not manufactured to misdirect your attention.

Re:There is no left or right (2)

oldspewey (1303305) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722268)

In the west, the collective is a theocracy.

Not really. In most western countries it's more like plutocracy or corporatocracy.

Re:There is no left or right (1)

PPH (736903) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722858)

I don't know about that. Corporations tend to be libertarian. Money rules, no matter what your race, creed, sexual orientation, whatever. The only color that matters is green. But we (the USA) have a large right wing socially conservative political block that live in trailer parks and the like. Not my idea of a plutocracy.

The economic and social conservatives tend to be more closely tied in Europe, where the fanatics have been weeded out over the centuries.

Re:There is no left or right (4, Insightful)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722248)

Europeans are the only people who have any sanity when it comes to nudity. I was watching a Philadelphia station that plays European programs, about some Italian detective/cop, and suddenly the young daughter walks into the room, topless, and sits there for five minutes. Nobody reacted.

First I was shocked, and then I realized it ain't no big deal. In America (and Asia too apparently) the station would be hit with a million dollar fine if caught. I don't understand why people are afraid to see a naked breast or body. As the Pope once said about the nude paintings in various chapels: "The human body is made in God's image, therefore it remains holy even when it is unclothed."

Re:There is no left or right (3, Interesting)

donscarletti (569232) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722442)

...about some Italian detective/cop, and suddenly the young daughter walks into the room, topless, and sits there for five minutes. Nobody reacted.

Now, I am not reacting to say that this is harmful or degrading or whatever. But seriously, that is tacky, just plain tacky. They know that that scene was not gripping, so they put in a contrived pair of tits to keep the average punters interested. Honestly, in European films I have seen, particularly Italian, gratuitous nudity does coincide with a lull in the pacing that needed something to fill it, where Michael Bay would make a helicopter explode. Nice side effect of censorship is that it forces film-makers to try something new, rather than the tried and true chestnuts of violence, sex and obscenity that always work if you just use a little more than last time. Not that a bit of violence, sex and obscenity isn't good, but it is good to create legal and social forces to encourage other, more difficult things to be tried.

Re:There is no left or right (4, Interesting)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722842)

Not that a bit of violence, sex and obscenity isn't good, but it is good to create legal and social forces to encourage other, more difficult things to be tried.

Why do we as a people need legal or social "forces" to change what we want to see? If the world's culture wants to be about tits and explosions, then it's not up to some pompous prude in an office to dictate that this is somehow "wrong". Let people do what they darned well please.

Re:There is no left or right (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722444)

I fucking love the way some dumb Americans say "Europeans" suggesting that somehow Europe isn't a continent with 50 different countries.
There are countries in Europe that are very conservative about nudity, and other's who aren't.

Try to get this once and for all:
EUROPE IS NOT A FUCKING COUNTRY

Articles of Confederation (0)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722932)

I fucking love the way some dumb Americans say "Europeans" suggesting that somehow Europe isn't a continent with 50 different countries.

I think it has something to do with some analogy between the confederation that is the European Union and the confederation that was the united States of America for the first decade of its existence.

Re:There is no left or right (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722828)

In America (and Asia too apparently) the station would be hit with a million dollar fine if caught...

Not on cable.

Re:There is no left or right (2)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722266)

Doesn't that destroy the meaning of "left wing" and "right wing"?

Which of those tribes do you belong to? Hate the other one. You have a choice!

(The Nolan Chart [nolanchart.com] is much better, but still of an artificially low dimensionality.)

Re:There is no left or right (2, Insightful)

Hoi Polloi (522990) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722348)

If you think China is left-wing because of the Communist name they use then the Nazis were left-wing because they had the word Socialist in their name. Sorry but China is as autocratic as they get, they dropped communism long ago.

Re:There is no left or right (1)

elloGov (1217998) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722364)

When you dumb down any shit, you need such primitive dualities so that people feel like they matter by declaring their affinity for one team while loathing the other. Satan vs God, Hell vs Heaven, Poor vs Rich, hetero vs homo, 1 vs 0 (for the binary geeks out there :)) Although some dualities exist naturally, most things are continua. I believe that it is impossible to have a constructive argument until all parties realize this.

Re:There is no left or right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722452)

Can someone tell me what the fuck is wrong with the US?

You can show all the killing in films/tv shows/daytime news you want to, in full graphic detail but accidentally show a nipple on national tv and there's an outcry.

You lot have seriously got to change your priorities on censorship.

Re:There is no left or right (1)

blind biker (1066130) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722878)

I thought it was pretty well known that China is in fact a fascist state.

Re:Right wingers in the U.S...... (0)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722042)

But it's the LEFT wing that is actually doing it (review the laws passed by the Democrat Congress these last four years). How ironic.
This is why I joined a third party.
You can't trust the two big parties.

Re:Right wingers in the U.S...... (1)

simon0411 (1921684) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722782)

Generalizing a bit here, but the two biggest proponents of anti-free speech, anti-porn laws are religious fundamentalists (right wing), and self-proclaimed feminists (left-wing). The most recent high-profile attempts to regulate language in music and violence in video games have come from Democrats, to my dismay. Moral crusades know no political boundaries.

Heavens! (1)

gestalt_n_pepper (991155) | more than 3 years ago | (#34721940)

It's going to take... *days* to restore all those sites in a way that can't be censored.

Priorities (3, Insightful)

ArcherB (796902) | more than 3 years ago | (#34721958)

You would think that a country intent on controlling it's population growth would encourage fapping.

Re:Priorities (2, Insightful)

mrsteveman1 (1010381) | more than 3 years ago | (#34721982)

They don't have to choose, it's a totalitarian country.

Re:Priorities (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722374)

So is the US.
What's your point?

guy in charge... (0)

ninja59 (1029474) | more than 3 years ago | (#34721960)

is named Wang.

Re:guy in charge... (1)

MoldySpore (1280634) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722090)

New Joke: "Your mom is such a whore, she takes more Wangs than a Chinese government crackdown on porn"

Distant relative to "Your mom has more chins than a Chinese phone book".

Evvvvvreeeeebooody... (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34721976)

Everybody Wang Chen tonight!

Sorry but there's no fun happening there tonight...

Re:Evvvvvreeeeebooody... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722320)

woops, did my post offend your nigger loving values? I'm soooo sorry. lol ok mebbe not...

Coming to the US and EU soon (3, Insightful)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#34721980)

Net Neutrality? Or Fairness Doctrine? Nah. The FCC has been doing this since the 1950s, before those buzzwords even existed. In the same fashion they censor radio and television, they will soon be doing the same thing China is doing: censoring the "filthy nudie pics" from the web.

Of course they should not be able to do. CATV and internet are PRIVATE domains so the FCC should keep their hands off. But they won't. Our US and EU politicians are no different than Chinese politicians - they all have avarice and ambition - love of money & love of power. They'll censor the porn off the net and justify it as "protecting the children".

Won't somebody think of the children? (1)

Dexter Herbivore (1322345) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722286)

Won't somebody think of the children? Oh, wait... 4chan /b/ already does that... and in this context too.

Re:Won't somebody think of the children? (1)

surveyork (1505897) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722500)

Yep. At 4chan and other chans some people love children a bit too much.

Re:Coming to the US and EU soon (5, Insightful)

zero_out (1705074) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722506)

Now you're just spreading FUD. The FCC should be preventing this stuff from showing up where it isn't expected, but it's not trying to prevent porn from being on the internet, nor is it trying to prevent it from entering your home via your TV, as long as it's clearly gated. The FCC doesn't prevent your local cable company from providing you with porn. It prevents it from being broadcast openly to anyone with a TV, who can easily stumble upon it unwillingly. That's why a breast can't be displayed during the Super Bowl. It's the wrong place and the wrong time. Families will watch the Super Bowl, including kids, because it's considered to be "relatively" safe. Although, the FCC should be doing more about the commercials shown during the event.

If you want to view porn, that's up to you, and nobody should prevent you from doing so, as long as it's behind a door that says "here there be porn." That way, I and my wards won't stumble upon it without my expressed consent. To say that the FCC is trying to prevent it from being provided to you AT ALL is a gross overstatement, and just plain FUD.

Re:Coming to the US and EU soon (1)

ejtttje (673126) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722638)

Yeah, you know how power hates a vacuum... If only there was a way to codify that no one was allowed to filter/delay packets being routed, since the regional ISP monopolies are looking to rewrite the peering rules which have so far prevented this, and if they don't it's only a matter of time until the gov't tries to protect-the-children or some such BS. We really want the ISPs to be common carriers, maybe we should make an Internet "Bill of Rights" which says no further regulation is allowed, even by the government, you know, just like the original Bill of Rights established so many of our other freedoms by limiting further regulation. I know! We could call it... "NET NEUTRALITY"!

Do you realize net neutrality is supposed to disallow discrimination based on content aka filtering? So do you like your freedom of internet, or do you just blindingly hate all regulation on "principle", regardless of what it's trying to do? Because it's the ISPs who are going to start filtering things if no higher power tells them they aren't allowed. Even given the worse case where the gov't is also trying to filter, it's really a question of whether you'd like to be screwed by unelected profiteers or someone you can at least vote against.

Re:Coming to the US and EU soon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722770)

The only way to explain net neutrality to the ignorant is to give a concrete, and probable, example. Net neutrality laws, in theory, are to prevent Verizon or Comcast from deciding to block Skype, or make it unusable, because it competes with their own phone services.

Or how about your ISP slowing down or blocking your iTunes purchases, because your ISP has its own digital music store (like the one RCN has)?

Or Steam/GOG, because it competes with your ISP's game store (like the one Comcast has)?

Or Netflix because it competes with your ISP's pay-per-view offerings?

Or porn for the same reasons?

Or perhaps you like to use Netflix, and hate Blockbuster's video streaming service, but Blockbuster has been around for a long time, so it can afford to pay your ISP to make sure its traffic flows unabated, but since Neflix is the new guy, it can't afford to do the same, and your ISP slows down its traffic to the point of making Netflix unusable.

These are all possible because the ISPs are not regulated. They can do whatever they please to your data. These are the things that net neutrality laws are supposed to prevent. Or would you rather wait until you find your ISP doing these things, and the US government spends the next two to five years debating whether it's a problem, another two to five years fixing the problem, and all the while allowing you to be negatively impacted until they fix it?

Re:Coming to the US and EU soon (1)

Drakkenmensch (1255800) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722738)

Our US and EU politicians are no different than Chinese politicians - they all have avarice and ambition - love of money & love of power. They'll censor the porn off the net and justify it as "protecting the children".

I'm certain the multi-billion dollar porn industry will gladly accept the curtailing of their business with a smile and just go back to minimum wage jobs without a fuss.

China censorship is not news for nerds (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34721998)

It's part of everyday life in china. Whether you agree with it or not, censorship is a way of life there.

Therefore posting a story like this shouldnt be news or news relevant to nerds. Its about the same as posting an item in the crime log of a local paper.

Bottom line this is an internal matter for china. You people need to just butt out.

Re:China censorship is not news for nerds (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722130)

hello chinese propagandist

Re:China censorship is not news for nerds (1)

couchslug (175151) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722152)

"You people need to just butt out."

We can and will do what the fuck we like, my dear Anonymous ChiCom.

Huhhhhhuhuuuhuhuhuhhuhuhuhuuh.... (1)

StudMuffin (167171) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722014)

Huhhhuhuhuhuhuhhh.

"Wang"

the internet is for porn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722020)

grab your dick and double click

Is that different in other countries? (3)

grumbel (592662) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722028)

Ok, here is a question: Is this actually different in other western countries?

As far as I know in Germany for example you are not allowed to publish porn on the net unless you make sure that people under 18 don't have access it. To confirm to this criteria it isn't enough to just add an agegate, but instead it requires things like sending credit card info, PostIdent (you show your Id-card at a post office and post office confirms your identity to the website) or something else that is much more secure, thus essentially removing porn from the public Internet.

Now this of course doesn't mean that there isn't porn on the net in Germany, there is tons of it as the net isn't filtered, but I don't think many of it is hosted in Germany by German companies.

Re:Is that different in other countries? (3, Insightful)

Palmsie (1550787) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722204)

Yes, and I think the point is, they are equally ridiculous, not equally intelligent.

Re:Is that different in other countries? (2)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722304)

In the U.S. porn (not just nudity but actual sex) is posted publicly on the web for everyone to see.

Ditto on cable television (although most channels blur it out). There is no requirement that it be blocked from the eyes of children or teenagers..... that is considered the responsibility of the parent using NetNanny or TV Channel Locks.

Re:Is that different in other countries? (1)

operagost (62405) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722558)

However, the Clinton administration signed off on the 1996 Telecommunications Act that mandated the installation of V-chips. Clinton claimed, "If every parent uses this chip wisely, it can become a powerful voice against teen violence, teen pregnancy, teen drug use, and for both learning and entertainment."

Re:Is that different in other countries? (1)

surveyork (1505897) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722574)

Yep, in some other European countries porn on the net is "free for all to see". Once you click the "I'm 18+" button in a porn site, the fapverse is yours. That, or there isn't such button. If you see pics of tits and wangs, you know where you are.

Re:Is that different in other countries? (1)

mangu (126918) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722826)

As far as I know in Germany for example you are not allowed to publish porn on the net unless you make sure that people under 18 don't have access it. To confirm to this criteria it isn't enough to just add an agegate, but instead it requires things like sending credit card info

Hmmm, not quite. If you look closely at those sites that require your credit card info you'll see they have ulterior motives.

In the same page that says "this site is entirely FREE, we only need your credit card number to make sure you are over the age of 18" if you scroll all the way down you'll see in small letters "this site is free for three days, after that your credit card will be billed at the rate of $18 / month" or something like that.

No one asks for you credit card number unless they are intending to charge you.

Damn Mongolians... (1)

MoldySpore (1280634) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722040)

...always blocking access to my shitty Chinese porn sites.

not quite grasping digital concepts there buddy (1)

amanicdroid (1822516) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722144)

"350 million pieces of pornographic and indecent internet content were eliminated"

Re:not quite grasping digital concepts there buddy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722554)

Isn't that just a single copy on someones personal HDD?

350 million pieces? That's a lot of strokes.

In a Bevis imitation voice... (1)

jrbirdman (1281118) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722198)

He said "Wang"!...snort, snort, snort...

Coming soon... (1)

Cornwallis (1188489) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722292)

to a United States near you!

Seriously? (2)

philmarcracken (1412453) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722314)

They couldn't have gotten another guy without the first name Wang for this story? That is priceless.

Re:Seriously? (1)

Lashat (1041424) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722450)

First name Wang AND last name Chen. "Everybody Wang Chen tonight". That guys name describes a oral copulation.

Re:Seriously? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722628)

It's actually his last name, which is China's equivalent to "Smith" or "Jones" in terms of prevalence.

In China ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34722528)

... porn fucks you.

Just a drop in the bucket (2)

kheldan (1460303) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722640)

Pornography has been around as long as humans has been around. China is wasting it's time trying to stamp it out.

How many IPv4 addresses were freed up? (1)

ysth (1368415) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722836)

And what will they do with them?

A ploy to control the masses - Just like the USA (1)

gestalt_n_pepper (991155) | more than 3 years ago | (#34722866)

All governments, including our own, always make illegal some ubiquitous, harmless activity so that there is always an excuse to round up large parts of the population at any time. In China, it's porn. Here, it's drug laws,.soon to include "questioning homeland security" or "revealing K-Street Lobbying contributions" to congress.

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