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6 Homeless People Saved By the Internet

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the power-of-farmville dept.

The Internet 94

An anonymous reader writes "With Ted Williams's story (the homeless man with the golden voice, saved by the internet) blowing up online, and in the traditional media, we figured it was time to tell the stories of 5 other homeless people who've found success, be it financial or personal, through the wonderful use of this series of tubes we call The Internet."

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On the bright side... (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34794318)


On the bright side, over 2,000,000 homeless people were NOT saved!
lulz

...always look. (3, Insightful)

MrQuacker (1938262) | more than 3 years ago | (#34794400)

Humor helps, but real solutions... (2)

Paul Fernhout (109597) | more than 3 years ago | (#34800230)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income [wikipedia.org]

Essentially, between welfare, social security, and schooling, the USA spends about US$800 per person per month. Why not just give that money equally to every citizen as a basic income? A family of four would earn enough to get by through homeschooling, or could send their kids to private school.

More ideas: http://knol.google.com/k/paul-d-fernhout/beyond-a-jobless-recovery#Four_long(2D)term_heterodox_alternatives [google.com]

Re:On the bright side... (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#34794644)

Sounds like an opportunity.

1. Find 2,000,000 homeless people on the Internet
2. ???
3. Profit!

Speaking of that business model, is Monster.Com still in operation?

Re:On the bright side... (1)

mark-t (151149) | more than 3 years ago | (#34794794)

Yes, but monster.com isn't terribly useful to people who don't have a home to connect to it from.

Actually, in my experience, monster isn't all that useful, period, so it's no real loss.

Re:On the bright side... (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#34794822)

But these 6 people used the internet. Just need to implement the sneakernet-based last-mile for the other 1,999,994.

Actually, in my experience, monster isn't all that useful, period, so it's no real loss

Then you get the gist of the irony of mentioning it in my post.

Re:On the bright side... (1)

Yvanhoe (564877) | more than 3 years ago | (#34795106)

Actually an incredible amount of homeless people have some kind of internet access. You can find a 0$ laptop with wifi these days, you can find a free hotspot. In order to come back in life it makes more sense to pay some bucks for a cell phone than for a rent. Many homeless people own a cellphone.

Re:On the bright side... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34795392)

You can find a 0$ laptop with wifi these days

Citation?

Re:On the bright side... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34796528)

Try the curb on trash night.

Re:On the bright side... (1)

mark-t (151149) | more than 3 years ago | (#34799362)

It's against the law in many cities to throw computer equipment into the trash... it must be taken to a recycling depot.

Re:On the bright side... (1)

DarkTempes (822722) | more than 3 years ago | (#34800344)

And yet a large number of people still throw away their old computers that way anyway (along with a ton of other electronic equipment)...and it's naive to think otherwise.

Re:On the bright side... (1)

mark-t (151149) | more than 3 years ago | (#34802200)

Yes... but in cities where it is outlawed, the person whose trash they are picking up will receive a fine... plus the trash won't be picked up.

Re:On the bright side... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34922108)

It does get picked up, just not by the sanitation employees.

Re:On the bright side... (1)

Xeno man (1614779) | more than 3 years ago | (#34946584)

That's why you don't put it out with your own trash. You drive around the corner and put it with your neighbors trash. It's not that hard to work the system.

There are lots of ways to get rid of things you don't need any more. Large commercial garbage bin that is left unlocked. Go by a construction site, lots of open bins there. Hell, if you really don't care you just go down some side road and dump it in the bush. As long as you don't throw out and identifying information, odds are next to zero of being caught.

Re:On the bright side... (1)

ehrichweiss (706417) | more than 3 years ago | (#34797058)

I recycle computers(laptops included) for underprivileged people, usually children but adults get a shot too, so count me as your first citation.

Re:On the bright side... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34796368)

You can go to the public library and use the Internet.
Shelters and homeless support organizations also help them with communications when necessary.
A surpising number of them have real skills.
The difference between them and you is often not much more then the next out-sourcing.

I work with the homeless and their numbers have increased a lot in the last few years.

Re:On the bright side... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34800088)

We got a demicrat in the Oval Office so there only be a maximum of 700 000. Now if he were a Republican you can be sure that there were 2 000 000 or more.

Many more than that saved (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34794376)

In colder areas many homeless survive on the hot stream coming out of the tubes.

If it wasn't for rampant porno on the web, many homeless would have frozen.

Only 5? (1)

Bigbutt (65939) | more than 3 years ago | (#34794426)

I only counted five homeless in the article. I guess the other one represents the hidden homeless around all of us.

[John]

Re:Only 5? (1)

brainboyz (114458) | more than 3 years ago | (#34794462)

There's a second page with one story on it. I missed it the first time, too.

Re:Only 5? (1)

eln (21727) | more than 3 years ago | (#34794556)

The link to the second page appears to be completely invisible if you have NoScript on. I looked everywhere and couldn't find it. Then I temporarily allowed the page, and the link appeared. What a terribly designed website.

Re:Only 5? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34795140)

Ahhh yes, terribly designed because of your third-party browser plugin that blocks functionality. Don't expect shit to work if you aren't letting it, Sherlock.

Re:Only 5? (1)

ThatMegathronDude (1189203) | more than 3 years ago | (#34795384)

What's so special about a hyperlink that JS is needed to show it? Sounds like the site was designed to force you to allow privacy violating (i.e. cookie depositing) code in order to browse it. Kinda goes against the nature of the web.

Re:Only 5? (1)

linuxgeek64 (1246964) | more than 3 years ago | (#34796848)

z0mg let's pass a law that banz all c00kiez!!1! and c0mplain wh3never any w3bs1t3 uses js. b3c4use, of course, only JS can read/write cookies. There's no way PHP, JSP, ASP.NET, etc can do that! -- MatDegathronThude

Re:Only 5? (0)

badboy_tw2002 (524611) | more than 3 years ago | (#34797098)

1996 called, it wants its internet back.

Oh, the irony (1)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 3 years ago | (#34797504)

1996 called, it wants its internet back.

Did it also ask for its "[year/era] called, it wants its [subject] back" cliche back? :-P

Re:Oh, the irony (1)

karnal (22275) | more than 3 years ago | (#34800488)

I'm going with Jerkstore!

Re:Only 5? (1)

Dash275 (1971114) | more than 3 years ago | (#34798064)

At least it wasn't a flash object website. I hate when StumbleUpon gives me those. I have FlashBlock, so when I get one of those, I just assume it's not worth my time to use those. They're memory hogs anyway, especially in a window that's maximized.

There's a Second Page about James Montgomery (1)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 3 years ago | (#34794492)

I only counted five homeless in the article. I guess the other one represents the hidden homeless around all of us.

That website is not laid out very well, there's a second page that talks about James Montgomery.

Personally, I'm not sure about Adrian Lamo. Text of #4:

Adrian Lamo, Homeless Hacker Genius

It's always the smart people who get caught. In this case, it's Adrian Lamo, who was arrested in September 2004 by the FBI for computer fraud.

He was charged with breaking into the private network of the New York Times Company and running a bill upwards $300,000 on the pay-per-use search tool Lexis-Nexis and a possible 15-year prison sentence.

This wouldn't be too surprising if Lamo was a Ivy-League graduate with a rebellious streak (we've all seen Social Network three times by now to get the picture), but Lamo, one of the best-known hackers in the country, was homeless.

Given the name "The Homeless Hacker" by some, Lamo traveled around with just his eight-year-old Toshiba, blanket, change of clothes and Taser stun gun which he used to shock vending machines to see if they'd drop any food or spare change. He did most of his virtual exploring from the internet connections of Kinko's copy shops, which if you wear the right stuff, is actually pretty smart if you're a hacker (assuming you're paying in cash.)

Aside from the blatent idiocy of "It's always the smart people who get caught." how was this man 'saved' by the internet. I know he got interviews and a job as a grey hat ... but not sure what he's up to now other than working as an informant [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Only 5? (1)

arth1 (260657) | more than 3 years ago | (#34795184)

Adrian Lamo doesn't qualify - he had a home, he just chose not to go there.

Re:Only 5? (1)

iamhassi (659463) | more than 3 years ago | (#34873204)

James Montgomery (#6) doesn't count either. He's a homeless guy with a laptop and... well, that's it. No story, he just has a laptop and surfs the net. Seriously that's all there is, four paragraphs talking about how he's not rich or famous or joining normal society, but he has a laptop and uses the local library's wifi.

Re:Only 5? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34795606)

I like how the submitter mentions this Ted Williams guy as if we've all heard of him. This is the first I've ever heard of it.

Re:Only 5? (1)

Wraithlyn (133796) | more than 3 years ago | (#34799624)

Christ. It linked to a story about the guy, and even provided a capsule summary, specifically for people who hadn't heard of him.

lolwut (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34794538)

adrian lamo? really?
what a little fucker.

Why... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34794560)

Why do they have to have some exceptional talent in order to be worth saving from such a tragic fate?

Clearly the wealthy have the resources to save many people, but they only seem to care about those who can do something for them. So in many ways this is yet more tragic.

Re:Why... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34795422)

I already spend tens of thousands of dollars per year on charity. Some people call it "taxes".

Re:Why... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34796542)

Then go to Somalia were you won't have to worry about taxes anymore, pissant.

Re:Why... (4, Informative)

Joe Tie. (567096) | more than 3 years ago | (#34795644)

As someone who was homeless, I think I can explain to some extent. Homeless people tend to be kind of nuts. If you don't start out that way, it's highly probable you're going to end up that way eventually. It's a life of living like an animal, never being able to trust anyone, and often going days without more than a few words to another human being. Hell, you often forget how to actually participate in a real conversation pretty quickly. It's a bit like when you don't speak a second language for a while. Except not with the secondary language, but the primary. You usually only make it out by having something that can remain untainted by that, or just a lot of luck. It's not so much deserving to escape it, but that being the only way. Personally, I don't have money right now. But when I did, after being homeless, I tried to help as much as I could. And there's a LOT you can do. And it comes into play far more from direct interaction than from donating to charity. I never saw a dime of charity when I was homeless. Most don't. A person talking to me though, with respect, as a human being. And possibly buying and eating lunch with me. That happened, and it was worth more to me than words can express. It doesn't have to be the wealthy, by any means. Even if you're lower middle class, it's in you to save any of these peoples lives. It probably won't, but there's still a chance that a single shared meal can do it.

Re:Why... (1)

TapeCutter (624760) | more than 3 years ago | (#34903458)

"And possibly buying and eating lunch with me."

I've done that a few times, it didn't save their life but it sure made their day (and mine). I had a small taste of being homeless for a few months in the early 80's, nothing like walking a mile in someones shoes to change one's worldview.

no mustard? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34794640)

who covered creep http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXlzci1rKNM and ended up with a record deal http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2010/12/homeless-street-musician-goes-viral-on-youtube-gets-a-record-deal-turns-his-life-around.html

Re:no mustard? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34810906)

A record deal? Great. Now he'll be homeless and he'll owe the record company money...

El Guapo? (1)

flanders123 (871781) | more than 3 years ago | (#34794664)

Would you say I have a 'plethora' of pinatas, Jeffe?

On the downside (1)

houghi (78078) | more than 3 years ago | (#34794686)

5 people with a great life are now homeless, because their jobs are taken (indirectly) by those 5 homeless.

Re:On the downside (4, Interesting)

troll -1 (956834) | more than 3 years ago | (#34795016)

5 people with a great life are now homeless, because their jobs are taken (indirectly) by those 5 homeless.

You, my friend, are falling for the lump of labor fallacy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_of_labour_fallacy [wikipedia.org]

Re:On the downside (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34796158)

DEY TUK HIS JUUUB

Re:On the downside (1)

Paul Fernhout (109597) | more than 3 years ago | (#34800338)

That fallacy is a fallacy... http://www.economist.com/comment/336777#comment-336777 [economist.com]

My comments on moving beyond the general issues of limited demand, increasing productivity, and centralization of wealth:
http://econfuture.wordpress.com/2010/10/19/robots-jobs-and-our-assumptions/#comment-392 [wordpress.com]
http://econfuture.wordpress.com/2010/10/19/robots-jobs-and-our-assumptions/#comment-402 [wordpress.com]

Re:On the downside (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34802132)

Does not that $10,000 (Canadian) offer assume that your original argument and its rebuttal are worthy of being "accepted for publication in one of the 30 top-ranked economics journals". More so, you place yourself as the judge. Let us also consider what you require:

1. My argument is that the authenticity of the lump-of-labor fallacy claim, with regard to unemployment and the hours of work, is questionable;

2. that various explanations of it are inconsistent and contradictory

3. and that Sydney J. Chapman’s neglected theory of the hours of labor presents a more coherent analysis of the reduction of working time than the often-cited fallacy claim

Before digging into that, let us consider more qualifications on what the hell your point is:

"To qualify for the $10,000 prize, the candidate would need to write an article refuting the main conclusions of my September 2007 article and have it accepted for publication, as a peer-reviewed article, in one of the 30 top-ranked economics journals."

Some poster: "Could you please give a link to your original post, I'd be interested to read it."

Your reply: "The original MaxSpeak post is not available. But I crossposted it on the Work Less Institute of Technology:

http://worklessparty.org/wlitblog/archives/2004_10.html [worklessparty.org] "

Which is a series of unrelated posts. Maybe yours is in there. Do you seriously expect a top 30 economical journal to care about a refutation to some unpublished, unlinked, debloggified post of yours? Do your "top 30" publications all accept "anonymously peer-reviewed articles" which you require? And is that SOP? Forgive me as I am outside of acadamia. Is that anonymous or pseudo-anonymous or is the review board selected from a known group of peers (so you know the set of peers but not the subset judging this hypothetical article). If by chance my article was published but not "anonymously peer-reviewed" then I would not be able to have republished. So can I, as an unpublised submitter with engineering (not economics) degrees, demand a style of review?

Let us consider some of more problems:

a) Damn near everything is "questionable" (point 1 above). You win.
b) Various explanations of anything are inconsistent and contradictory. Thus the use of the word "various" (point 2 above). You win.
c) I stop carrying about point 3, but that is where the heart of any discussion would be. Proving one theory superior to another.

To sum it up, two of your three points are pointless and unrefutable. You are seeking a published article the merits of which you judge that cannot repeat prior refutations ("won't count if the article simply re-asserts the fallacy claim and follows that by grinding out yet another 'empirical analysis'") of some post of yours that the internet seems to have lost.

What have I missed?

Re:On the downside (1)

Paul Fernhout (109597) | more than 3 years ago | (#34804830)

What have I missed?

To begin with, you missed that I did not write the article or compose the challenge at the first link whose words you are attributing to me...

Re:On the downside (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34846018)

He seems to place a great deal of emphasis on 'top 30 peer reviewed economics journal'.

I notice that the Journal of Social Economy is not in the top 30:

http://faculty.maxwell.syr.edu/whorrace/journals.htm

I also notice that the Journal of Social Economy describes itself as: "The field of social economics discusses how the economy and social justice relate, and what this implies for economic theory and policy. Papers published range from conceptual work on aligning economic institutions and policies with given ethical principles, to theoretical representations of individual behaviour that allow for both self-interested and 'pro-social' motives, and to original empirical work on persistent social issues such as poverty, inequality, and discrimination."

I am quite sure a rebuttal could be published in the non-top-30 peer-reviewed Ayn Rand Journal of Economic Truths.

As to whether a top 30 journal would accept an article in the form of a point by point rebuttal of an article that has not been carried in that same journal, or any noteworthy journal, I rather doubt. The condition imposed by the author is therefore impossible to fulfil.

Re:On the downside (1)

MrHyd3 (19709) | more than 3 years ago | (#34795718)

This is typical communist/fascist speak. Thinking the pie is only so large and can nvr be changed - everyone has to eat from the same pie. More work, make more pies.

Re:On the downside (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 3 years ago | (#34797724)

That has to be the most retarded thing I've read in some time.

Adrian Lamo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34794728)

Eh fuck that guy. He's the one that turned in Bradley Manning.

Let's just all be calm and forget all about this (1)

pdog4x4 (1061996) | more than 3 years ago | (#34794814)

As a resident of Columbus, Ohio, I would greatly appreciate this fellow being forgotten. Every 10 minutes on all local television shows, radio shows, newspapers, this story is repeated. Good for him, but please /. don't be one of those guys...

Re:Let's just all be calm and forget all about thi (1)

karnal (22275) | more than 3 years ago | (#34800558)

Just means that there's nothing else going on. I'd rather see this story than just hear about "OMG here comes another 1/2 inch of snow!!!"

Let's face it, Columbus news is kinda boring anyways. And no matter where this story showed up, it will be played out like a one hit wonder.

Re:Let's just all be calm and forget all about thi (1)

Nirvelli (851945) | more than 3 years ago | (#34803570)

Just go do something newsworthy and then they'll have something else to talk about.
Maybe get yourself some Lite-Brites [wikipedia.org] .

No Daniel Mustard? (1)

Paintballparrot (1504383) | more than 3 years ago | (#34794948)

Who would have thought a homeless man could do perform Creep better than Radiohead?
Prepare to be blown away [youtube.com]
He has an album out now.

Re:No Daniel Mustard? (1)

treeves (963993) | more than 3 years ago | (#34796302)

I wouldn't say better than Radiohead. Good, different, OK. Not better.

Re:No Daniel Mustard? (1)

iamhassi (659463) | more than 3 years ago | (#34873230)

i was prepared but then nothing happened. Where's the blown away part?

But what about... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34794994)

all those people that were made homeless by the internet?

Eg:
internet gambling addicts
victims of Nigerian and other scams
people fired for internet use at work contrary to company policy
and of course those who revealed information on their Facebook/Myspace page and got canned / divorced / bullied /don't ask dont tell discharged etc.

Re:But what about... (2)

mldi (1598123) | more than 3 years ago | (#34795182)

all those people that were made homeless by the internet?

Eg: internet gambling addicts victims of Nigerian and other scams people fired for internet use at work contrary to company policy and of course those who revealed information on their Facebook/Myspace page and got canned / divorced / bullied /don't ask dont tell discharged etc.

It sounds like those people became homeless because of themselves.

Re:But what about... (1)

stimpleton (732392) | more than 3 years ago | (#34795418)

"It sounds like those people became homeless because of themselves."

Yeah OK, we get it, some people would only be happy if the Homeless were put in forced labor camps, and euthanised if work output fell.

People like you sicken me.

Re:But what about... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34795642)

Little touchy are you, this man admitted to causing his own problem. People like you need to grow up and see the real world.

Re:But what about... (1)

mldi (1598123) | more than 3 years ago | (#34798290)

Did you read the GP's post or just blindly assume I was talking about ALL homeless? Jesus Christ, understand context before you go off on somebody.

People like you sicken me.

Re:But what about... (1)

sourcerror (1718066) | more than 3 years ago | (#34799432)

Yeah, divorced people totally deserve it ... and the gay too ...

Re:But what about... (1)

mldi (1598123) | more than 3 years ago | (#34801666)

Read the context of the post you dirty troll. It's only as bad as me saying you caused your own burns if you put your hand in the fire.

Re:But what about... (1)

sourcerror (1718066) | more than 3 years ago | (#34802752)

Maybe it's you who should read the context ...

Good grief... (4, Insightful)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 3 years ago | (#34795226)

Adrian Lamo, Homeless Hacker Genius

Really? Shiftless snitch with no conscience, perhaps. But "genius hacker"?

Re:Good grief... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34799014)

Having met one of Lamo's 'friends', and being of the mind that you can learn a lot about a person by the company they keep, I am convinced that Lamo is every bit the publicity-seeking tool that I have been hearing about for the past decade.

The ever popular "zomg me2" (5, Interesting)

Joe Tie. (567096) | more than 3 years ago | (#34795526)

For what it's worth, I'm in that situation as well. Some years back I wound up homeless after an accident threw my life into turmoil. I recovered physically, to some extent. But found that my entire life had been thrown into turmoil by the new status of "limping and scarred dude". It was social death in the superficial crowd I was in and employed by, and the job fled as quickly as the people eager to stab anyone in the back to advance. I found first my wife, then my money, and finally my job gone. However, I kept my laptop even as I lost a roof under which to use it. It took a while to get back on my feet, but it was entirely by taking small telecommuting jobs found over the net over a four month period or so. If that seems like a rather long time, keep in mind that I had other concerns as well such as "eat" and "don't get fuckin' cut by either your fellows or random crazies". I'd feel more positive about the experience if I wasn't on the verge of having to worry about that all over again. My rambling point is that one shouldn't feel like these stories have a finality to them. They might have a happily ever after, but they might wind up right back where they were. Because to get to the point of being homeless is to lack a social support structure. And once you've been homeless, it can be horribly difficult to get that back. Because the lack of such usually starts out with either an abusive family, or one you've seen die around you. And continues on to friends who wound up throwing you away when you most needed them. It's not easy to open yourself up socially again after something like that happens. It might not seem important, but that view only comes from within a life that hasn't ever really experienced it. People need people, it's just a fact of our species. And you get screwed up pretty quickly from the lack.

Re:The ever popular "zomg me2" (1)

iwnbs (633321) | more than 3 years ago | (#34796042)

"People need people..., and you get screwed up pretty quickly from the lack."

This is completely true. I don't know what you've been through. You don't know what I've been through. But, I can tell you that your conclusion is universally true.

Re:The ever popular "zomg me2" (1)

vbraga (228124) | more than 3 years ago | (#34796806)

Joe, thank you for sharing your story in this discussion. It must have been very rough to be there. (I'm feeling like a selfish asshole after hearing a few personal stories in the last few days).

I know it's not much and I'm probably in other continent but if you ever need some help, you can contact me at my username at acm dot org.

Re:The ever popular "zomg me2" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34797300)

Don't you get an unemployment benefit when you lose your job? And all sorts of house allowances? How come you didn't use these?

Re:The ever popular "zomg me2" (1)

sourcerror (1718066) | more than 3 years ago | (#34799470)

It depends on the country he lives in how long and what amount he gets ...

Re:The ever popular "zomg me2" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34800742)

I empathize with the grandparent: I am young (under 30), typically do short-term contract work (less than a year) across multiple US states, and have no immediate family (deceased).

If a contract runs out, depending on the state I am in, how long I've been in it, and the length of my last contract; I've got nothing to fall back on (other than savings) until I find work.

A lot of US States don't want to give out social benefits if you've been in state less than 6 months and refer you to the state you were in previously; however, most states don't want to pay out social benefits if you no longer live in that state, especially if you lived there less than 6 months.

Re:The ever popular "zomg me2" (1)

Paul Fernhout (109597) | more than 3 years ago | (#34800428)

Thanks for your insights.

Some general health care advice links I've found useful myself, to the extent any of it might help in keeping on an upward spiral of healing:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1692444&cid=32644166 [slashdot.org]

Re:The ever popular "zomg me2" (1)

v1 (525388) | more than 3 years ago | (#34933396)

it can't have been easy holding onto a laptop while homeless when in the company of the crazies that cut. must have been quite the game to hide it and still use it from time to time.

sure... (1)

martiniturbide (1203660) | more than 3 years ago | (#34797480)

sure, but nobody wants to list the top 10 business men that turned homeless because of the internet.

Only 6? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34797560)

for a global network like Internet? Call that a win?

Homeless? You can't fly either. (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 3 years ago | (#34797748)

Even being a youtube phenom isn't enough to be permitted to fly. [nydailynews.com]

Re:Homeless? You can't fly either. (1)

PJ6 (1151747) | more than 3 years ago | (#34798282)

That's really odd because I made a point to fly without ID (a few years ago) to make sure we still had the right to do it, and I didn't have any problems aside from being searched more thoroughly. Have the laws changed? I was under the impression that a denial of that sort violated federal law. [lookingglassnews.org]

Re:Homeless? You can't fly either. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34798898)

A few years ago they changed the rules to be even more Kafkaesque [cnet.com] in that it was OK to forget your ID, but if you deliberately refuse to show it, then you can't fly. I know that doesn't explain what happened to that guy, I just wanted to share.

Re:Homeless? You can't fly either. (1)

PJ6 (1151747) | more than 3 years ago | (#34803688)

Wow. + Informative, but very saddening. Thanks.

This deserves a game show (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34797946)

How is this not a reality show? Homeless Idol would be hilarious.

Reality television (1)

sourcerror (1718066) | more than 3 years ago | (#34799512)

Shoudn't it rathe rather be a reality show?

How many more made homeless by the internet ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34798010)

I'm sure it's a hundred times more.

Maybe we should shut it down. Goof off the old-fashioned way!

not to pour cold water on the warm fuzzies but... (1)

PJ6 (1151747) | more than 3 years ago | (#34798028)

I'm 95% sure that the homeless man with the golden voice is a sociopath.

Wow 6 whole people.. (1)

RapmasterT (787426) | more than 3 years ago | (#34798108)

That seems to be a success rate rivaling lives saved by not giving food to the homeless and thereby preventing choking.

I happened to catch an interview with Ted Williams this morning, and to say "golden voice" is stretching credulity.

a great tool for a Great Tool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34799410)

A homeless acquaintance of mine came to me with a thinkpad he acquired a few months ago, trying to get past the fingerprint login. I was psyched, picturing how much good a laptop could do for the kids life. The ability to look up information like benefits, locations, oddjobs on craigslist etc, as well as a constant way to get in contact with people really could help turn his life around. I spent about an hour reinstalling Windows 7 and helping him learn to use it, showing him how he could use skype instead of needing a cellphone, telling him about couchsurfing, and explaining how the internet could open so many doors to him. I really thought this could be a turning point in his life, and he seemed psyched about some of the possibilities. It's ridiculous how much at a disadvantage the homeless are, and this could have been his springboard to turn his life around. The ability to use the internet really can help level the playing field in so many ways. I saw him a couple days later and asked him how he was doing. He traded his $1200 Thinkpad for twenty bucks of heroin. I nearly cried...

Not one, but six! (1)

Fuzzums (250400) | more than 3 years ago | (#34800318)

Wow! World peace! End to hunger! No more war and taxes!

Sorry for my sarcasm. Mister X had a very nice dark voice indeed, but if until now 6 people have found a job this year, we're in SERIOUS trouble.
Not to mention people still steal each others land in name of god and the list goes on and on.

The question is (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 3 years ago | (#34804902)

why there are homeless people in a 'first world' country in the first place.

and no, dont give me any ayn rand shit. im fresh out of my bullshit listening contingency today.

Re:The question is (1)

TapeCutter (624760) | more than 3 years ago | (#34903502)

"why there are homeless people in a 'first world' country in the first place."

There are homeless people in every country, and no I'm not a Randian or an American.

Re:The question is (1)

Securityemo (1407943) | more than 3 years ago | (#34907594)

Sweden, for example, has around 15-20.000 homeless as a matter of fact. They even have their own magazine. [situationsthlm.se]
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