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Verizon Finally Unveils Apple iPhone

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the there-ya-go-uriah dept.

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Velcroman1 writes "The most asked question in all of technology finally has an answer. When will Verizon get the iPhone? The answer: early next month. Verizon COO Lowell McAdam unveiled a new iPhone Tuesday during a presentation in New York that was short on surprises as most of the tech press already knew what was coming. 'If the press writes about something long enough and hard enough, eventually it comes true,' McAdam joked. Nevertheless, the move clears a major hurdle for Apple as they face increasing competition in smartphones, particularly from devices based on Google Inc.'s Android software which has exploded in popularity. Verizon's Lowell McAdam described the unveiling as a 'great day for wireless customers across the US.'"

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Ok (0)

Beat The Odds (1109173) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836614)

About time, I guess

Re:Ok (3, Interesting)

Desler (1608317) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836630)

So how is Verizon going to spin this to backpeddle against their previous bashings of the iPhone? Weren't they just a year or so ago telling how puny and weak the iPhone was in comparison to their Droid?

Re:Ok (5, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836830)

The most common(and probably most effective) backpedaling strategy is "Don't".

Just stop saying what you were saying before, scrub it from visible locations where possible, then begin emitting the new party line. Most people have sufficiently short memories, or high enough tolerance for absurd contradictions, that they won't bat an eye. The people who don't fit in this category will never be satisfied, so why bother worrying about them?

Re:Ok (3, Insightful)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836962)

If it works for public policy on promoting wars, it'll work for a silly phone.

Re:Ok (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34836890)

They won't have to. The iPhone IS puny and weak compared to the Droid.

Re:Ok (2)

Desler (1608317) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836954)

And yet they are trumpeting everywhere how they are now getting the iPhone like it's the second coming

Re:Ok (4, Insightful)

brian_tanner (1022773) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837168)

All I heard over and over was "customers keep telling us they want it". What I didn't hear was "this is the best phone we have". No contradiction. Giving customers what they are asking for is hardly rocket science. Not like they are replacing other products with the iPhone.

Re:Ok (2)

rwven (663186) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836984)

Which must explain why I'll be switching back to iPhone next year after discovering how claustrophobia-inducing, sluggish, and unstable Android can be. :rolleyes:

Re:Ok (3)

saleenS281 (859657) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837118)

They're still selling the droid, I don't really see any conflict of interest. If they start releasing commercials stating how much better the iphone is than droid, you might have an axe to grind. Just because it's BETTER doesn't mean they can't still give consumers choice. I sell customers products that I think are inferior all day long for all sorts of reasons. Sometimes it's still the best fit even though overall it's an inferior product. Sometimes it's a better price. Sometimes, the customer just really wants something that isn't best for them. If they take my recommendation into consideration and still choose the path they want, I'm not going to walk away from a sale just because they made a bad choice... that would be pretty bad business practice.

Re:Ok (0, Redundant)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836638)

Hopefully, this will not only ignite a price war between AT&T and Verizon, but will step things up between Apple and the various Android manufacturers. Either way, we the people win! Looks like I know what I'm getting the wife for Valentine's Day :)

Re:Ok (1)

Desler (1608317) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836776)

Why would it ignite a price war? The whole point of the iPhone is that it's a high margin device so it's a win for Apple and the sellers. A price war destroys this and you might as well just continue to peddle cheap Android phones with razor-thin margins.

Re:Ok (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836834)

I was referring to data plan/calling plan/family plan pricing, not pricing of the devices themselves :P

Re:Ok (1)

Desler (1608317) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836854)

And those are also high margin plans. Again, what's the incentive for either end to reduce those margins?

Re:Ok (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836916)

If people want an iPhone, and both carriers offer it, there's only so many ways they can entice someone to come to their side. As of now, it's limited to "voice/data" on AT&T and "Tethering/3G hotspot" on Verizon. Some form of package pricing or slight decrease in data plan cost would go a long way.

I could be completely wrong, but if the CDMA launch goes well, I think we're going to see some plan pricing shifts in the near future, even if they're minute.

Re:Ok (1)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836928)

Again, what's the incentive for either end to reduce those margins?

In theory, to offer superior value to the competitor, thus enticing more customers and therefore making more profit overall despite reduced margins.

It's economics 101, but it does, of course, carry an awful lot of assumptions about non-collusion, informed consumers, and so on.

Re:Ok (1)

JackieBrown (987087) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837056)

To get new customers? If I only care about getting an iphone and don't care about the carrier, I will pick the one with the better plan.

You just need one company to decide they want to take the other's business and then the price war begins. For better or worse, no company is satisfied with only holding on to what it already has.

Re:Ok (1)

Kilrah_il (1692978) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836826)

It's great to have competition, but I, personally, don't care. Just bought a Palm Pre 2, and I ain't looking back.

Re:Ok (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34837012)

buying a palm pre is looking back. But thanks for letting us know that you don't care. I was wondering what you thought about it.

The good and bad... (4, Insightful)

imamac (1083405) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836618)

Good: Free tethering. Bad: No simultaneous voice/data.

Not free tethering - WiFi hotspot, unknown price (4, Interesting)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836662)

They didn't just say they would support tethering, they said you could use it as a hotspot - about time.

BUT what I don't think was stated, was how much (if anything), this will cost... it might be free but I don't think the price of anything was made clear. They also didn't talk about unlimited data plans even though that was a rumor, and the Verizon data plan page says there is a 2GB cap on smartphone plans.

Re:Not free tethering - WiFi hotspot, unknown pric (1)

imamac (1083405) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836822)

Sorry--I equate tethering and hotspot even though they are of course two compeltely different things. (Same result though.) And the impression of the news media (from what I'm reading) is that there was no additional cost.

Re:Not free tethering - WiFi hotspot, unknown pric (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836920)

The only reason I made the distinction, is that having a hotspot is a lot more flexible than just tethering support...

I agree the impression is that it is free. But that's because they are too giddy and for some reason, actually trusting a wireless carrier.

Re:Not free tethering - WiFi hotspot, unknown pric (0)

rwven (663186) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837002)

tuaw has details about the pricing of their (unlimited) data plans as well as the hotspot app.

Re:The good and bad... (0)

yincrash (854885) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836670)

free tethering

citation needed

Re:The good and bad... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34836930)

Verizon and the word free do not go together, no citation needed as it is evident in verizon's entire history.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

putch (469506) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837024)

yeah, definitely won't be free. at least not w/o a jailbreak. It's verizon we're talking about. they don't do free.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837138)

There was no charge to use the GPS with Google Maps on Black Berry, even though it undercut the $5/mo or whatever they charge for the VZ Navigator. Of course, the Storm was the worst, pos phone ever made and i got rid of it a year ago for a 'dumb' phone. I may investigate this iPhone situation though.

Re:The good and bad... (2)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837042)

FTFA:

Over the last year, analysts and pundits insisted that Apple would never launch an iPhone on Verizon’s outdated CDMA network. Instead they said Verizon would launch the iPhone on its lighting fast LTE 4G network... they were wrong.
Why did Verizon launch on the older, slower nextwork? "The first gen LTE chipsets force design changes we wouldn't make," said Apple's Tim Cook. "And Verizon customers told us they want the iPhone now. I can't tell you the number of times we've been asked, 'when will it work on Verizon.'"

It ain't 4G, so no simultaneous voice and data.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836688)

Bad: No simultaneous voice/data.

I hear people constantly bringing this up, but I fail to see why it's such a big deal. Be honest, AT&T iPhone owners: how often do you really use this feature? I'm sure there are certain folks (mostly those who use the iPhone for business purposes) where that's a big deal...but come on, for the average person, they will rarely if ever even notice.

Re:The good and bad... (5, Insightful)

TooMuchToDo (882796) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836728)

Want to reference an email in Gmail while on a phone call? Doesn't work. Want to look at Google Maps to give directions while you're on the phone with someone? Doesn't work. Yes, no data/voice simultaneously is a big deal.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

nomadic (141991) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836824)

Huh, google maps doesn't give directions while you're on the phone already on AT&T.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

BrianRoach (614397) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836910)

It's a map. You're looking at it. You're talking to someone. *You're* giving directions to them, using your voice. On a phone.

Presumably because they don't have a smartphone, otherwise you'd just email them the address and tell them to punch it into their map app.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

Desler (1608317) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836912)

Huh, google maps doesn't give directions while you're on the phone already on AT&T.

You would be quite wrong. I've failed to mute navigation before and it has continued to give directions while I've been talking to someone. I wish it WOULD mute itself.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

TooMuchToDo (882796) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836948)

I should've been more clear. 1) Someone calls me, asks me for directions to get where I'm at, provides their location 2) I punch into Google Maps, and speak back to them because they either don't have a data plan or a smart phone

I have a Nexus One on T-Mobile and voice and data work together just fine, and the situation I presented as occurred before.

Yes it does... (4, Insightful)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837070)

Sure it does, I can look at google maps when on the phone, on an iPhone, on AT&T.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836882)

I don't know how it works on the iPhone, but you can easily reference an email on an Android phone so long as the push has already been sent to your phone. You don't need an active connection to read them (again, as long as the push has reached your phone.)

Of course, you could just connect to a wifi network, and that won't matter...

Re:The good and bad... (3, Insightful)

TooMuchToDo (882796) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836924)

True. But if you're on the phone and they say "Sending you the email now", you're boned. You'll have to hang up, allow the data transmission, and then call them back.

And if there is a wifi network around, more likely I'm using a laptop and not my phone.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837046)

::shrug:; I dunno, I guess it just seems like a non-issue to me because of how little I use my phone as a phone. (my wife and I are on a family plan, and last month between the two of us we had 33 minutes used. This compared to nearly 600 text messages and about 1.5GB of data.)

Re:The good and bad... (1)

TooMuchToDo (882796) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837078)

I'm on a business plan, and burned *checks T-Mobile's portal* 5628 minutes last month, and almost 6GB of data. Different needs for different folks.

Re:The good and bad... (0)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837074)

But if you're on the phone and they say "Sending you the email now", you're boned. You'll have to hang up, allow the data transmission, and then call them back.

Boned? As you said, you hang up, get the mail, redial. Costs you about three extra clicks and 5 seconds.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

TooMuchToDo (882796) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837150)

Doesn't look good with clients scout. With your friends? No big deal. $200K/year contract? Not so much. Doubly so when you're on a conference call about said contract.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

Desler (1608317) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836936)

Of course, you could just connect to a wifi network, and that won't matter...

WiFi doesn't exist everywhere...

Re:The good and bad... (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837088)

Yes the iPhone caches map data as well. Except that usually you don't pull up maps until you're already on the call. You're not saying that Android consumes bandwidth by AUTOMATICALLY downloading map data all the time, I would hope...

Re:The good and bad... (1)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836742)

I'm a little confused by whats meant by that.

Does that mean if you are downloading a video from Youtube you won't be able to receive calls?

Or just simply your downloads pause while talking on the phone?

Re:The good and bad... (4, Informative)

imamac (1083405) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836774)

Voice calls take priority--any data needs are paused while on a call.

Re:The good and bad... (1, Troll)

imamac (1083405) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836748)

I use it daily. Once you have it, you don;t want to loose it.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836766)

I hear people constantly bringing this up, but I fail to see why it's such a big deal. Be honest, AT&T iPhone owners: how often do you really use this feature?

My car broke down and I had to call my insurance company. They wanted to know the street address of my location. I was broke down outside a McDonald's. I had to leave my car, walk into the restaurant, and ask for the manager, since none of the underlings knew the street address. If I lived in a 3G area instead of Edge, I would have used that feature in a heartbeat.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

Lugae (88858) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837018)

If my car broke down, and I had to call my insurance company, I'd assume they'd want to know WHERE my car broke down. I'd get that information before placing the call, because if I was the phone operator, the last thing I'd want to hear was, "Hold on. Let me look up where I am now that I have you on the line."

Re:The good and bad... (1)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837154)

Good assumption. Usually you can give them a town & local business and they can locate you. I told them where I was, but they weren't able to find the address. Turns out even though the McDonald's was on a highway, because it was in a town, the highway had a local street name that wasn't on any sign that I could see.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

radish (98371) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836812)

When the iphone first launched on at&t it had the same restriction. The problem I had was that when using data (which I do a lot) incoming phone calls would go straight to voicemail. No idea if Verizon works the same way, but it was incredibly annoying at the time.

Re:The good and bad... (5, Informative)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837060)

When the iphone first launched on at&t it had the same restriction. The problem I had was that when using data (which I do a lot) incoming phone calls would go straight to voicemail. No idea if Verizon works the same way, but it was incredibly annoying at the time.

That's because GPRS/EDGE baseband doesn't support simultaneous voice+data, because there's only one transceiver. All the UMTS (3G HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA) ones, in order to get higher speeds use channel bonding and multiple data contexts, which requires additional transceivers on additional channels. When a voice call comes it, it's just a control message to shut down a data context, switch a transceiver to the voice channel, and continue. The only thing that you'll notice is the data comes in a bit slower.

As for LTE support - LTE rollout isn't everywhere, and LTE at the moment is only guaranteed for data - the voice path has not been fully ratified yet. No doubt you can run VoIP, but I'm sure the carriers are trying to figure a wya to limit the built-in VoIP to their network only in nice high priority while other VoIP services get stuck with regular data services...

Re:The good and bad... (1)

wygit (696674) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836846)

Mostly looking up maps while talking to someone.
Or telling someone about something I saw on Amazon, and checking a feature...
Or talking about an movie and checking IMDB to see who played *that* role in it.

No, it's not necessary, just like 99% of the other features of smartphones.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

metrometro (1092237) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836848)

The Data/Phone overlap problem has two grim issues: Route navigation while on the phone and referencing email. Both could be improved with some local caching.

Email is cached locally, but only if you've opened the message before. I don't know the exact setup.

Maps: nothing local, which is a pain. I'm not sure why Google Maps can't stash some map tiles on my phone and update them periodicly. It's not like it doesn't know where I spend most of my time [insert own basement/Bear Party joke here].

Re:The good and bad... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34837032)

um, Google Maps does that now, since about mid-December:

http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=12103

Re:The good and bad... (1)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837068)

A bear party in the basement? I thought they closed down the geek compound.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

abbub (253205) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837086)

I can get directions and look at a map on my first generation iPod Touch and it remembers the data once I shut down the wifi link. I'm not sure why the iPhone would be any different? I use it all the time to get directions to a place while I'm at home on wifi and then use the Touch to get where I'm going.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

Desler (1608317) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836896)

Be honest, AT&T iPhone owners: how often do you really use this feature?

I'm not an iPhone user, but on my various 3G android phones I use it all the time. Especially in the car where the phone is also being used as the GPS device. It would be a severe crippling of functionality to lose my navigation data connection just because I get a call from someone.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

rwven (663186) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837028)

The main thing that would be a big problem is that I frequently play WoW over my phone while tethering on AT&T. If I had verizon, was using the hotspot, got a call, and got disconnected from WoW, that would be supremely irritating.

Use it all the time (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837050)

Be honest, AT&T iPhone owners: how often do you really use this feature?

I use this all the time. The most common use is looking at maps while talking to someone. The next is looking up something on the web (like a menu for a restaurant) while I'm talking to someone.

Also while on a hands-free call on the phone, I prefer to leave Waze (free navigation app) running - that requires a network just like Google Maps.

The very first iPhone had this issue on Edge, and I found it annoying. It's not a huge deal and I don't think it will stop a lot of people from getting phones but it is a pretty useful feature.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34837066)

I use it all the time. Maybe it wouldn't be a big deal if I never got used to it. I expect this to bother AT&T converts more than ViPhone natives.

Also think about the WiFi hotspot. Do you want your net connection dropping every time you receive a call?

Re:The good and bad... (1)

TheCRAIGGERS (909877) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836708)

I've been on CDMA for years, and this has never impacted me. I don't need Pandora playing while I'm trying to talk, and I don't care if my Youtube video stops caching in the background. I can't speak for the iPhone, but Android is smart enough to automatically resume a download after a call.

Re:The good and bad... (1)

wygit (696674) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836900)

It's like anything else.. you can't miss what you've never had.

To the people who use it, it would be missed.
No, I don't do Pandora, but I do occasionally use maps, Google, etc, while talking.

Bah! (0, Offtopic)

TheCRAIGGERS (909877) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836626)

I'd rather have an Atrix in February on Verizon.

ZOMG (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34836634)

ZOMG.....This is as good as Pink Ponies Slashdot!

Best (1)

NEDHead (1651195) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836640)

Unlimited data plan? Hopefully will spread to all phones/carriers

Re:Best (4, Insightful)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836684)

Unlimited data is cool, but in the 6 months or so I've had my iPhone, I've never even come close to using the 2GB data limit. WiFi is so ubiquitous, even where I live out in the sticks.

Re:Best (0)

wygit (696674) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836926)

Same here.
When AT&T came out with the two tiered option last June (June?) I checked, and in the past year neither milady nor I had ever used more than 80MB/month.
I dropped to the 250MB plan.

Re:Best (1)

FlopEJoe (784551) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837014)

Unlimited data is cool, but in the 6 months or so I've had my iPhone, I've never even come close to using the 2GB data limit. WiFi is so ubiquitous, even where I live out in the sticks.

Interesting... I've had unlimited data from RoadRunner at home and haven't come close to using that limit either!

Re:Best (1)

Scutter (18425) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836746)

Unlimited data plan? Hopefully will spread to all phones/carriers

Sprint has had unlimited data for some time now. They even include unlimited texting, which the other carriers inexplicably charge a criminally-marked-up amount for.

Re:Best (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34836968)

I've had unlimited data and text on Verizon with my Android phone for some time. This is not new for Verizon.

Re:Best (2)

darrylo (97569) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836886)

Actually plan pricing is yet to be announced, and so Verizon could still drop the unlimited data, or charge a higher-than-current fee for it. (Personally, I do hope the plan structure for current smartphones is used.)

Competition is good (1)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836644)

It will be interesting to see if this helps to even the playing field between the iPhone & Android. The only question is how many Verizon customers will hold out until the next gen because you can't talk & surf at the same time on Verizon's 3G network?

disconnect (3, Interesting)

Danathar (267989) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836664)

What actually happens when a call comes in? Obviously any data streams stop, but if I have a laptop tethered will TCP connections get reset or is it like all of a sudden having dropped packets?

Re:disconnect (1)

AcidPenguin9873 (911493) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836722)

They get a busy signal? :)

Re:disconnect (1)

yincrash (854885) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836836)

I imagine it is similar to someone picking up a landline phone while you're on dial up.

Re:disconnect (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34836870)

Why aren't you using Skype?

Re:disconnect (5, Informative)

renek (1301131) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836908)

What actually happens when a call comes in? Obviously any data streams stop, but if I have a laptop tethered will TCP connections get reset or is it like all of a sudden having dropped packets?

That's exactly what happens. I travel a great deal for business and given that most hotel's WiFi tends towards the sucktastic side of speeds I tether my Droid constantly. When a phone call comes in the radio kills any data coming through it. The connection doesn't get a reset, the packets just stop coming.

Re:disconnect (1)

sadboyzz (1190877) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837052)

Yes, that is basically what happens. As soon as you start a call or when a call comes in, the data packets will not get through. And if your call lasts long enough eventually your connections will time out.

Re:disconnect (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34837180)

is it like all of a sudden having dropped packets?

Yes

So as long as the phone call lasts less than the timeout of the connection (and the application reacts well enough) everything should keep going just fine after the call.
I've had SSH sessions going that stay up through a 10 minute call (as long as you don't type in them).

Although, it's a good reason to just wait until LTE devices come out as they won't suffer from this problem.

"Journalistic" Integrity (0)

markkezner (1209776) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836682)

Now the bloggers will have to fabricate stories about something else.

Re:"Journalistic" Integrity (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836790)

Maybe the iPhone 5, featuring Apple's new iLapDance technology?

Lame press conference (4, Informative)

jandrese (485) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836726)

They refused to talk about the data plans? What is this, I don't even.

Anyway, there were exactly 3 things of interest at the press conference:
  1. Verizon is getting the iPhone
  2. It will be CDMA only (no LTE, no simultaneous voice/data)
  3. It will allow a 5-person WiFi hotspot

That's it. I would think if they're going to bother holding a press conference like this that they would be willing to talk a bit more about the device first, but no, it's was only the most minimal sip of information they could get away with divulging.

Too late. (3, Insightful)

orphiuchus (1146483) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836736)

This took way too long. I already caved and got myself a Android phone, which I'm very happy with.

Re:Too late. (2)

Chapter80 (926879) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836786)

This took way too long. I already caved and got myself a Android phone, which I'm very happy with.

Agreed! Actually, I'd say "Too little, Too late"

Re:Too late. (2, Interesting)

SoupIsGoodFood_42 (521389) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836966)

Too late for you, perhaps, but there will be many who will dump their Andriods for an iPhone.

  Should be interesting to see what effect this has on marketshare.

There's an update for that! (1)

bornagainpenguin (1209106) | more than 3 years ago | (#34837090)

This took way too long. I already caved and got myself a Android phone, which I'm very happy with.

That's okay, there's an update that will fix that for you...

Looks like that wifi hotstpot will be useful (1)

jandrese (485) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836762)

No simultaneous voice/data? I guess the best way to make calls on the thing will be to use Skype over the WiFi hotspot.

Re:Looks like that wifi hotstpot will be useful (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836990)

Or Skype over the cellular data connection. I'm not really sure why you'd want to use the voice channel. Too bad the cell companies still insist on charging you for it.

How popular? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34836772)

Interesting that there are almost as many query hits on "iPhone 4" and "Verizon" as there are on "iPhone 4" and "AT&T". http://bingmatrix.cloudapp.net/go.aspx?t=&a=%2B(%22iphone+4%22+or+%22iphone4%22)&k=verizon%3Bat%26t%3Bt-mobile%3Bsprint&s=*%3Bengadget.com%3Bgizmodo.com%3Bcnet.com%3Btwitter.com%3Bfacebook.com [cloudapp.net]

Why... (1)

Slash.Poop (1088395) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836806)

Why if you are going to copy the first few paragraphs of the article would you change "February 10th" to "early next month"?

Maybe the article changed or something but it just seems strange to remove the exact date.

Quote from the conference (1)

TheL0ser (1955440) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836818)

"If the press writes about something long enough and hard enough, eventually it comes true"

They have that kind of superpower and are using it for an iPhone? What about cold fusion, hovercars, faster-than-light travel, and decent tasting frozen dinners?

Oh, and that world peace stuff, too, I guess.

LTE (1)

darjen (879890) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836832)

3g is done. I'm waiting for a good 4g phone when my Droid's contract runs out.

Re:LTE (1)

danaris (525051) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836972)

Hope your Droid's contract doesn't run out for another year and a half or so—or you live in one of the few big cities where LTE is being rolled out early—because otherwise, you're not going to find much out there. Or rather, you'll be able to get a bleeding-edge phone that supports LTE, but your service will still be entirely 2g/3g.

Dan Aris

HELLO CHILDREN !! DO YOU KNOW WHAT DAY IT IS ?? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34836850)

It's PATCH fuckin Tuesday !!

Hmmm, bait and switch... (1)

bhunachchicken (834243) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836880)

Sorry to sound negative, but I wonder how long it will be before Verizon remove both the unlimited data and the free tethering plans..? I suspect this will be something they offer only in the short term, to get people on board.

It wouldn't surprise me if they bring a 500MB cap to the data plans in 2012 and also began charging for tethering, much like how providers such as Orange have done in the UK...

I can live with 500MB, myself, but I know this annoys the living hell out of a lot of other people.

Did they change the iPhone4 for Verizon? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34836914)

Did they change it besides just changing the radio? The picture at apple.com looks a tiny bit different than my AT&T iPhone4. There is a line above the silent switch that appears to show a break between two antennas. My iPhone4 doesn't have a break there.

Re:Did they change the iPhone4 for Verizon? (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836980)

They briefly touched on that...it's likely a minor redesign due to the differences between CDMA and GSM.

More here. [engadget.com]

Mums the word. (1)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836946)

There is no way they are going to disclose what would be really interesting.

What Verizon promised to give up to get iPhone? Most likely dropping or at least hobbling android. But no one would say how soon or how much.

Yawn.... (-1, Flamebait)

phamNewan (689644) | more than 3 years ago | (#34836952)

This is useful news for 3 year olds I suppose. For anyone else....

Why do phone manufacturers do this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34837092)

I could never understand the logic behind locking in a popular phone with one vendor. There have been several phones I would have gone with in the past that became non-options because they were locked in with one vendor. I know the service providers pay a pretty penny for exclusivity, but I have to question how accurate their cost analysis is. Additionally, when things go wrong you look even worse. AT&T killed themselves with their woeful 3G pipe and I imagine there's going to be a flood of people going to Verizon as soon as their 2nd contracts are up.

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